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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by Finsbury on Aug 5, 2013 9:57:21 GMT 1, my eelus sandwich, and yes occasionally i hang my own stuff at home
Looks great with the piece in the middle, I hung mine side by side and tbh it doesn't really work.
my eelus sandwich, and yes occasionally i hang my own stuff at home Looks great with the piece in the middle, I hung mine side by side and tbh it doesn't really work.
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by t3c on Aug 5, 2013 10:49:26 GMT 1, Sorry about the pics, iphone rubbish lighting. Just picked up from gary today.
Liking the green spacer used there DF
Sorry about the pics, iphone rubbish lighting. Just picked up from gary today. Liking the green spacer used there DF
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by andyctree on Aug 6, 2013 14:40:42 GMT 1, A little birdy told me that they are trying to trim the prints with the edge damage, and pass them off as proofs to other people to reduce their cost of having to replace all of the poorly packaged prints.
A little birdy told me that they are trying to trim the prints with the edge damage, and pass them off as proofs to other people to reduce their cost of having to replace all of the poorly packaged prints.
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2013 16:50:28 GMT 1, A little birdy told me that they are trying to trim the prints with the edge damage, and pass them off as proofs to other people to reduce their cost of having to replace all of the poorly packaged prints. the fkin scobbers. No need for that is there?, if someone has a damaged one im sure Eelus would knock one out for them.
A little birdy told me that they are trying to trim the prints with the edge damage, and pass them off as proofs to other people to reduce their cost of having to replace all of the poorly packaged prints. the fkin scobbers. No need for that is there?, if someone has a damaged one im sure Eelus would knock one out for them.
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by iamzero on Aug 6, 2013 16:59:52 GMT 1, How is that even possible if the prints have been numbered as part of the edition? The only way is if they trim if the white border completely?
How is that even possible if the prints have been numbered as part of the edition? The only way is if they trim if the white border completely?
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by thisisanton on Aug 6, 2013 18:05:45 GMT 1, Can't they just erase the number and write A/P?
Can't they just erase the number and write A/P?
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by duggyfresh on Aug 6, 2013 18:12:41 GMT 1, Its not possible, the prints don't have a white border.
Its not possible, the prints don't have a white border.
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by Damien on Aug 6, 2013 18:20:23 GMT 1, A little birdy told me that they are trying to trim the prints with the edge damage, and pass them off as proofs to other people to reduce their cost of having to replace all of the poorly packaged prints. looks like you shouldnt believe the birdys
A little birdy told me that they are trying to trim the prints with the edge damage, and pass them off as proofs to other people to reduce their cost of having to replace all of the poorly packaged prints. looks like you shouldnt believe the birdys
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duggyfresh
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by duggyfresh on Aug 6, 2013 18:30:32 GMT 1, Obviously bird isn't the word!!!!
Obviously bird isn't the word!!!!
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by 1978per on Aug 6, 2013 18:41:16 GMT 1, Bought myself a copy off eBay. The seller received it with a slight corner damage. He then told me he was only offered a refund and not a new print as as all the replacements were sent out.
I don't have written proof, but the damage was so light so I just accepted the print as it was.
Bought myself a copy off eBay. The seller received it with a slight corner damage. He then told me he was only offered a refund and not a new print as as all the replacements were sent out.
I don't have written proof, but the damage was so light so I just accepted the print as it was.
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by Sacked... on Aug 6, 2013 18:45:38 GMT 1, 18 pages and still going....
18 pages and still going....
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by andyctree on Aug 6, 2013 21:10:29 GMT 1, A little birdy told me that they are trying to trim the prints with the edge damage, and pass them off as proofs to other people to reduce their cost of having to replace all of the poorly packaged prints. looks like you shouldnt believe the birdys
Let's just say that I heard it from the horse's mouth.
A little birdy told me that they are trying to trim the prints with the edge damage, and pass them off as proofs to other people to reduce their cost of having to replace all of the poorly packaged prints. looks like you shouldnt believe the birdys Let's just say that I heard it from the horse's mouth.
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by gravity1 on Aug 7, 2013 0:06:57 GMT 1, This last issue prompted me to get involved as it is starting to paint a negative image of a guy who really holds him self to the highest of standards in my opinion. I asked Eelus himself what was going on and he explained bellow:
He has had an overwhelming list of people who were left out of the ATR release and after sifting through the damage returns he found some that were so slight he decided to offer them to some of these people, fully disclosed, that they could have slight damage and or be trimmed 2-3mm to remove a slight bend.. Also these prints we removed of any numbers, AP or PP designation what so ever.
As far an the original people returning them, all were offered either a new replacement print or a refund if they did not want to wait..
Hope that clears everything up.
This last issue prompted me to get involved as it is starting to paint a negative image of a guy who really holds him self to the highest of standards in my opinion. I asked Eelus himself what was going on and he explained bellow:
He has had an overwhelming list of people who were left out of the ATR release and after sifting through the damage returns he found some that were so slight he decided to offer them to some of these people, fully disclosed, that they could have slight damage and or be trimmed 2-3mm to remove a slight bend.. Also these prints we removed of any numbers, AP or PP designation what so ever.
As far an the original people returning them, all were offered either a new replacement print or a refund if they did not want to wait..
Hope that clears everything up.
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by astrobboy on Aug 7, 2013 0:47:16 GMT 1, Maybe they should be re-penciled "DP" - damaged print
Maybe they should be re-penciled "DP" - damaged print
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natstan
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by natstan on Aug 7, 2013 1:44:47 GMT 1, I don't really think of this as a negative thing. He knows the consequences of doing that and seriously if I were him, I will do it as well, in view the huge demand. Though I'm not sure if these trimmed prints will be offered for a lesser amount of money.
This last issue prompted me to get involved as it is starting to paint a negative image of a guy who really holds him self to the highest of standards in my opinion. I asked Eelus himself what was going on and he explained bellow: He has had an overwhelming list of people who were left out of the ATR release and after sifting through the damage returns he found some that were so slight he decided to offer them to some of these people, fully disclosed, that they could have slight damage and or be trimmed 2-3mm to remove a slight bend.. Also these prints we removed of any numbers, AP or PP designation what so ever. As far an the original people returning them, all were offered either a new replacement print or a refund if they did not want to wait.. Hope that clears everything up.
I don't really think of this as a negative thing. He knows the consequences of doing that and seriously if I were him, I will do it as well, in view the huge demand. Though I'm not sure if these trimmed prints will be offered for a lesser amount of money. This last issue prompted me to get involved as it is starting to paint a negative image of a guy who really holds him self to the highest of standards in my opinion. I asked Eelus himself what was going on and he explained bellow: He has had an overwhelming list of people who were left out of the ATR release and after sifting through the damage returns he found some that were so slight he decided to offer them to some of these people, fully disclosed, that they could have slight damage and or be trimmed 2-3mm to remove a slight bend.. Also these prints we removed of any numbers, AP or PP designation what so ever. As far an the original people returning them, all were offered either a new replacement print or a refund if they did not want to wait.. Hope that clears everything up.
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by Layaway Days Art Blog on Aug 7, 2013 2:30:46 GMT 1, I'd definitely be in for one at a cheap price because but I doubt he'd have to discount the price tbh. Wish other artists would do the same for fans. Good on ya, Eelus!
I'd definitely be in for one at a cheap price because but I doubt he'd have to discount the price tbh. Wish other artists would do the same for fans. Good on ya, Eelus!
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by alittle on Aug 7, 2013 3:43:21 GMT 1, Lame.
A print run is supposed to be sacred. You print the run, including a few APs for yourself/replacements, and that's it. In this case, he is reprinting a portion of the run, and selling damaged prints?
Lame.
A print run is supposed to be sacred. You print the run, including a few APs for yourself/replacements, and that's it. In this case, he is reprinting a portion of the run, and selling damaged prints?
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natstan
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by natstan on Aug 7, 2013 4:00:20 GMT 1, But given the circumstances that led to this action, doesn't it make the whole thing more interesting? Thinking about this in a more positive light, these are actually rarer than your usual stuff, ha! It's not like he is issuing another 175 prints signed and numbered. Lighten up...
Lame. A print run is supposed to be sacred. You print the run, including a few APs for yourself/replacements, and that's it. In this case, he is reprinting a portion of the run, and selling damaged prints?
But given the circumstances that led to this action, doesn't it make the whole thing more interesting? Thinking about this in a more positive light, these are actually rarer than your usual stuff, ha! It's not like he is issuing another 175 prints signed and numbered. Lighten up... Lame. A print run is supposed to be sacred. You print the run, including a few APs for yourself/replacements, and that's it. In this case, he is reprinting a portion of the run, and selling damaged prints?
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by disdig1 on Aug 7, 2013 4:11:18 GMT 1, But given the circumstances that led to this action, doesn't it make the whole thing more interesting? Thinking about this in a more positive light, these are actually rarer than your usual stuff, ha! It's not like he is issuing another 175 prints signed and numbered. Lighten up... Lame. A print run is supposed to be sacred. You print the run, including a few APs for yourself/replacements, and that's it. In this case, he is reprinting a portion of the run, and selling damaged prints?
the circumstances that led to this happening is terrible packaging from him. he could of avoided all this with a proper pack job and if he wanted more people to have them he should of made the edition size bigger from the start. selling or even giving away these damaged/trimmed copies is one of the dumbest things i have ever heard IMO of course.
But given the circumstances that led to this action, doesn't it make the whole thing more interesting? Thinking about this in a more positive light, these are actually rarer than your usual stuff, ha! It's not like he is issuing another 175 prints signed and numbered. Lighten up... Lame. A print run is supposed to be sacred. You print the run, including a few APs for yourself/replacements, and that's it. In this case, he is reprinting a portion of the run, and selling damaged prints? the circumstances that led to this happening is terrible packaging from him. he could of avoided all this with a proper pack job and if he wanted more people to have them he should of made the edition size bigger from the start. selling or even giving away these damaged/trimmed copies is one of the dumbest things i have ever heard IMO of course.
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natstan
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by natstan on Aug 7, 2013 4:23:29 GMT 1, โYou can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time.โ
But given the circumstances that led to this action, doesn't it make the whole thing more interesting? Thinking about this in a more positive light, these are actually rarer than your usual stuff, ha! It's not like he is issuing another 175 prints signed and numbered. Lighten up... the circumstances that led to this happening is terrible packaging from him. he could of avoided all this with a proper pack job and if he wanted more people to have them he should of made the edition size bigger from the start. selling or even giving away these damaged/trimmed copies is one of the dumbest things i have ever heard IMO of course.
โYou can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time.โ But given the circumstances that led to this action, doesn't it make the whole thing more interesting? Thinking about this in a more positive light, these are actually rarer than your usual stuff, ha! It's not like he is issuing another 175 prints signed and numbered. Lighten up... the circumstances that led to this happening is terrible packaging from him. he could of avoided all this with a proper pack job and if he wanted more people to have them he should of made the edition size bigger from the start. selling or even giving away these damaged/trimmed copies is one of the dumbest things i have ever heard IMO of course.
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by gravity1 on Aug 7, 2013 5:44:48 GMT 1, Couldn't agree more natstan.
โYou can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time.โ the circumstances that led to this happening is terrible packaging from him. he could of avoided all this with a proper pack job and if he wanted more people to have them he should of made the edition size bigger from the start. selling or even giving away these damaged/trimmed copies is one of the dumbest things i have ever heard IMO of course.
Couldn't agree more natstan. โYou can please some of the people some of the time, all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time but you can never please all of the people all of the time.โ the circumstances that led to this happening is terrible packaging from him. he could of avoided all this with a proper pack job and if he wanted more people to have them he should of made the edition size bigger from the start. selling or even giving away these damaged/trimmed copies is one of the dumbest things i have ever heard IMO of course.
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by robdog on Aug 7, 2013 9:59:57 GMT 1, Eelus is a good guy but can't help but feel this is a really bad decision on his part.
Just seems to be a money making excuse.
A limited run should stay that and AP's shouldn't just be created from reject prints.
Eelus is a good guy but can't help but feel this is a really bad decision on his part.
Just seems to be a money making excuse.
A limited run should stay that and AP's shouldn't just be created from reject prints.
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natstan
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by natstan on Aug 7, 2013 10:30:11 GMT 1, Lest I sound like I'm speaking up got Eelus, I am actually just trying to be objective here. It's art business afterall. The chap already incurred substantial loss (or probably much much reduced profits) by promising to replace the prints and ship them flat.
Yes, it's easy for us (the people who are not losing money here) to say he is dumb to do this, but let's face this hard truth - every full-time artist, banksy included, needs to make money in order to keep making art for us to enjoy. He is just selling some unsigned and un-numbered prints here to reduce his loss. I mean, even artists need to pat mortgages and eat, ha!
FYI, I also emailed him that I received a dented print and he is kind enough to offer me a refund without a second word (or ship it back to him at his cost). The reason for that email is to inform him of my receipt of the print and how pleased I am with his work (but with a grumble he has to improve his packaging next time). To get a refund was never even on my mind at that time at all...
Lest I sound like I'm speaking up got Eelus, I am actually just trying to be objective here. It's art business afterall. The chap already incurred substantial loss (or probably much much reduced profits) by promising to replace the prints and ship them flat.
Yes, it's easy for us (the people who are not losing money here) to say he is dumb to do this, but let's face this hard truth - every full-time artist, banksy included, needs to make money in order to keep making art for us to enjoy. He is just selling some unsigned and un-numbered prints here to reduce his loss. I mean, even artists need to pat mortgages and eat, ha!
FYI, I also emailed him that I received a dented print and he is kind enough to offer me a refund without a second word (or ship it back to him at his cost). The reason for that email is to inform him of my receipt of the print and how pleased I am with his work (but with a grumble he has to improve his packaging next time). To get a refund was never even on my mind at that time at all...
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by lsa on Aug 7, 2013 12:27:02 GMT 1, ANY ONE SELLING??? WILL LOVE TO GET ONE
ANY ONE SELLING??? WILL LOVE TO GET ONE
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by andyroo0312 on Aug 8, 2013 5:50:11 GMT 1, Lame. A print run is supposed to be sacred. You print the run, including a few APs for yourself/replacements, and that's it. In this case, he is reprinting a portion of the run, and selling damaged prints? Some things are sacred also the word integrity pops to mind. And to think all of this came about because of under par packing so the next word to come to mind is responsibility & consequence of actions. Maybe the trimmed unnumbered prints should be classified as back door prints and priced accordingly. It would be interesting to see all the frothing mouths and rosy cheeks from high blood pressure if the artist happened to be Banksy for example?? One thing is for sure you can not please everyone..
Lame. A print run is supposed to be sacred. You print the run, including a few APs for yourself/replacements, and that's it. In this case, he is reprinting a portion of the run, and selling damaged prints? Some things are sacred also the word integrity pops to mind. And to think all of this came about because of under par packing so the next word to come to mind is responsibility & consequence of actions. Maybe the trimmed unnumbered prints should be classified as back door prints and priced accordingly. It would be interesting to see all the frothing mouths and rosy cheeks from high blood pressure if the artist happened to be Banksy for example?? One thing is for sure you can not please everyone..
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natstan
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by natstan on Aug 8, 2013 6:53:04 GMT 1, For sure, not so many of those who are pleased with the decision commented here?
Lame. A print run is supposed to be sacred. You print the run, including a few APs for yourself/replacements, and that's it. In this case, he is reprinting a portion of the run, and selling damaged prints? ย Some things are sacred also the word integrity pops to mind. ย And to think all of this came about because of under par packing so the next word to come to mind is responsibility & consequence of actions. Maybe the trimmed unnumbered prints should be classified as back door prints and priced accordingly. ย It would be interesting to see all the frothing mouths and rosy cheeks from high blood pressure if the artist happened to be Banksy for example?? ย One thing is for sure you can not please everyone..
For sure, not so many of those who are pleased with the decision commented here? Lame. A print run is supposed to be sacred. You print the run, including a few APs for yourself/replacements, and that's it. In this case, he is reprinting a portion of the run, and selling damaged prints? ย Some things are sacred also the word integrity pops to mind. ย And to think all of this came about because of under par packing so the next word to come to mind is responsibility & consequence of actions. Maybe the trimmed unnumbered prints should be classified as back door prints and priced accordingly. ย It would be interesting to see all the frothing mouths and rosy cheeks from high blood pressure if the artist happened to be Banksy for example?? ย One thing is for sure you can not please everyone..
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by mattlew on Oct 25, 2013 16:20:53 GMT 1, Print releas of the year!!!!
Print releas of the year!!!!
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by kbfrombk on Oct 25, 2013 16:21:56 GMT 1, Print releas of the year!!!! wha?
Print releas of the year!!!! wha?
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by dreadnatty on Oct 25, 2013 16:43:29 GMT 1, Print releas of the year!!!!
Print releas of the year!!!!
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Eelus โข After The Rain Print, by mattlew on Oct 25, 2013 16:54:20 GMT 1, Sarcasm.......lots of sarcasm.
This whole release has been a joke from the beginning.
Artist tries to mimic his best selling print for a new release and everything goes to shambles.
So what is the final tally on edition size? Counting trimmed, untrimmed and newly printed?
One may never know.......
Sarcasm.......lots of sarcasm. This whole release has been a joke from the beginning. Artist tries to mimic his best selling print for a new release and everything goes to shambles. So what is the final tally on edition size? Counting trimmed, untrimmed and newly printed? One may never know.......
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