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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 16:26:45 GMT 1,
Sad news...
I hope you get it sorted. Assume you've done a search on linkedin etc perhaps contact his place of work and leave a message or just bill him for the repairs.
Sad news... I hope you get it sorted. Assume you've done a search on linkedin etc perhaps contact his place of work and leave a message or just bill him for the repairs.
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Gard
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by Gard on Jul 23, 2013 16:29:17 GMT 1, to be honest this place is a bit of a joke now... new members coming on selling crap.. stitching up people.. and old members that had there accounts removed cant get back on.......applying to only have there accounts rejected... JOKE! How did old members have their accounts removed? Why are they being rejected? I'm not disputing your claim but putting something like that out there should come with more info. (By the way our avatars look like their making music together). I think he's talking about Chyren. Didn't I read somewhere that he's planning his return?
to be honest this place is a bit of a joke now... new members coming on selling crap.. stitching up people.. and old members that had there accounts removed cant get back on.......applying to only have there accounts rejected... JOKE! How did old members have their accounts removed? Why are they being rejected? I'm not disputing your claim but putting something like that out there should come with more info. (By the way our avatars look like their making music together). I think he's talking about Chyren. Didn't I read somewhere that he's planning his return?
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 16:31:14 GMT 1, How did old members have their accounts removed? ย Why are they being rejected? I'm not disputing your claim but putting something like that out there should come with more info. (By the way our avatars look like their making music together). I think he's talking about Chyren. Didn't I read somewhere that he's planning his return?
What I'd Chyren do to get his account removed?
How did old members have their accounts removed? ย Why are they being rejected? I'm not disputing your claim but putting something like that out there should come with more info. (By the way our avatars look like their making music together). I think he's talking about Chyren. Didn't I read somewhere that he's planning his return? What I'd Chyren do to get his account removed?
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iamzero
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by iamzero on Jul 23, 2013 16:58:23 GMT 1, I've mentioned this before about a friend of mine that collects Stone Island jackets and Adidas trainers. The forums he uses doesn't allow sales from members from under 12 month members and flipping stuff is a massive no go. I did frown the other day regarding this when a member posted about selling his new Eelus print after getting into debt? Am I the only one to notice a huge increase of one star members on here to sell stuff... Surely not.
I've mentioned this before about a friend of mine that collects Stone Island jackets and Adidas trainers. The forums he uses doesn't allow sales from members from under 12 month members and flipping stuff is a massive no go. I did frown the other day regarding this when a member posted about selling his new Eelus print after getting into debt? Am I the only one to notice a huge increase of one star members on here to sell stuff... Surely not.
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gatecrasher
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by gatecrasher on Jul 23, 2013 17:07:59 GMT 1, Bit harsh on 1 star members really.
Scammers are gonna scam regardless of them having a post count of 1000s and theyre probably more aware of multiple forum and ebay account manipulation than someone who just signs up on a forum to scam a single member.
Personally I'd find out everything I can about this person .. google is your friend .. and email, write, review anything I can on him or his employer. You may not get your money back but its nice to shine a light on peoples crappy behaviour to their friends and employer.
Bit harsh on 1 star members really.
Scammers are gonna scam regardless of them having a post count of 1000s and theyre probably more aware of multiple forum and ebay account manipulation than someone who just signs up on a forum to scam a single member.
Personally I'd find out everything I can about this person .. google is your friend .. and email, write, review anything I can on him or his employer. You may not get your money back but its nice to shine a light on peoples crappy behaviour to their friends and employer.
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bjornca
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by bjornca on Jul 23, 2013 17:08:51 GMT 1, Sorry to hear about the situation E. Hopefully you get things somewhat sorted with him (ie. reduction in purchase price).
I think EB also has a 6 month rule before being allowed to sell anything. Obviously, this isn't going to weed out everyone, but could help. Hopefully these are not existing members setting up new accounts to realize a few extra dollars on sales.
Sorry to hear about the situation E. Hopefully you get things somewhat sorted with him (ie. reduction in purchase price).
I think EB also has a 6 month rule before being allowed to sell anything. Obviously, this isn't going to weed out everyone, but could help. Hopefully these are not existing members setting up new accounts to realize a few extra dollars on sales.
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street4RT
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by street4RT on Jul 23, 2013 17:29:48 GMT 1, Bit harsh on 1 star members really. Scammers are gonna scam regardless of them having a post count of 1000s and theyre probably more aware of multiple forum and ebay account manipulation than someone who just signs up on a forum to scam a single member. Personally I'd find out everything I can about this person .. google is your friend .. and email, write, review anything I can on him or his employer. You may not get your money back but its nice to shine a light on peoples crappy behaviour to their friends and employer.
I couldnt agree any more!!
That's where you hurt them ...
Persistence will pay off!!
Bit harsh on 1 star members really. Scammers are gonna scam regardless of them having a post count of 1000s and theyre probably more aware of multiple forum and ebay account manipulation than someone who just signs up on a forum to scam a single member. Personally I'd find out everything I can about this person .. google is your friend .. and email, write, review anything I can on him or his employer. You may not get your money back but its nice to shine a light on peoples crappy behaviour to their friends and employer. I couldnt agree any more!! That's where you hurt them ... Persistence will pay off!!
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andyroo0312
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by andyroo0312 on Jul 23, 2013 17:30:40 GMT 1, it is a shame this stuff happens but when ever money is involved its got to be expected to some degree.
. Insured and signed for delivery. . Payment via Paypal (goods or services) backed by c/c . Retain all correspondence regarding transaction . Listen to your inner self. I really cant see how you could go wrong? I have had 3 issues regarding damage all 3 sorted fairly quickly and on the last one when the postal service said no and paypal said no my c/c issuer refunded the money. Always good to go and talk to your local bank that issues your cards and have a chat it really can make a difference if the first to ports of call say no. Again sorry this has happened but hopefully this will help others in the future.
it is a shame this stuff happens but when ever money is involved its got to be expected to some degree.
. Insured and signed for delivery. . Payment via Paypal (goods or services) backed by c/c . Retain all correspondence regarding transaction . Listen to your inner self. I really cant see how you could go wrong? I have had 3 issues regarding damage all 3 sorted fairly quickly and on the last one when the postal service said no and paypal said no my c/c issuer refunded the money. Always good to go and talk to your local bank that issues your cards and have a chat it really can make a difference if the first to ports of call say no. Again sorry this has happened but hopefully this will help others in the future.
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Damien
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by Damien on Jul 23, 2013 17:37:12 GMT 1, how big were the creases?
how big were the creases?
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Damien
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by Damien on Jul 23, 2013 17:39:24 GMT 1, one thing is that normal people online selling prints wont always know how to handle them without getting a few creases sometimes
one thing is that normal people online selling prints wont always know how to handle them without getting a few creases sometimes
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letiss
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by letiss on Jul 23, 2013 17:45:21 GMT 1, Personally if I buy on here unless I know the member is legit or am very confident they are I'd rather pass or travel to take a look first. Living in London is certainly a big help with that but its just too risky with large priced items to take a more trusting approach.
There have though been cases on here of supposedly good members suddenly going rogue so I guess it can happen to anyone regardless of being careful.
I'm always surprising how many pms I get from zero or 1 post members in response to for sales threads. While they might be genuine and probably are there are risks here for the seller with PayPal. For this reason if I sell to someone I don't know I'll ask for gift or bank transfer.
Personally if I buy on here unless I know the member is legit or am very confident they are I'd rather pass or travel to take a look first. Living in London is certainly a big help with that but its just too risky with large priced items to take a more trusting approach.
There have though been cases on here of supposedly good members suddenly going rogue so I guess it can happen to anyone regardless of being careful.
I'm always surprising how many pms I get from zero or 1 post members in response to for sales threads. While they might be genuine and probably are there are risks here for the seller with PayPal. For this reason if I sell to someone I don't know I'll ask for gift or bank transfer.
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11
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by 11 on Jul 23, 2013 17:46:13 GMT 1, Unless everyone had to register with a credit \ debit card you cannot guarantee anyone is who they say they are - or guarantee any one person isn't using multiple accounts for the wrong reasons.
If we went down that route then we start moving towards a paid membership scenario (we are now sailing close to the spoof Paid membership thread i read with some amusement yesterday)
I particularly enjoy the fact that on the whole this is a self-policing community - there are the odd bans handed out by the mods but generally it is us members that rally round and decide what is and isn't acceptable behaviour on here.
Acceptable behaviour isn't just about stopping the scammers and trolls etc it is also about educating ourselves and others to be diligent when making purchases - if the perception is that we are so desperate for the next fix of art we throw money around like water then yes, we are inviting scammers to queue up and chance their arm
If people took the time to research and validate their seller instead of panicking that someone else might beat them to 'the deal of the century' then perhaps we would see a drop in the suspect sales threads and scammers looking to take advantage
BTW - by the very fact the buyer created a 'disposable id' suggests to me they are already a member on here but didn't want to damage their known reputation for selling damaged goods
Unless everyone had to register with a credit \ debit card you cannot guarantee anyone is who they say they are - or guarantee any one person isn't using multiple accounts for the wrong reasons.
If we went down that route then we start moving towards a paid membership scenario (we are now sailing close to the spoof Paid membership thread i read with some amusement yesterday)
I particularly enjoy the fact that on the whole this is a self-policing community - there are the odd bans handed out by the mods but generally it is us members that rally round and decide what is and isn't acceptable behaviour on here.
Acceptable behaviour isn't just about stopping the scammers and trolls etc it is also about educating ourselves and others to be diligent when making purchases - if the perception is that we are so desperate for the next fix of art we throw money around like water then yes, we are inviting scammers to queue up and chance their arm
If people took the time to research and validate their seller instead of panicking that someone else might beat them to 'the deal of the century' then perhaps we would see a drop in the suspect sales threads and scammers looking to take advantage
BTW - by the very fact the buyer created a 'disposable id' suggests to me they are already a member on here but didn't want to damage their known reputation for selling damaged goods
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 17:50:41 GMT 1, I always ask around the forum if anyone has had dealing with anyone i buy off - if they were ok to deal with etc. If no one has heard of them or brought something off them then i don't deal with them, it might be a pain in the ass to lose out on a few deals this way every now and then, but it's better than losing money for nothing.
I always ask around the forum if anyone has had dealing with anyone i buy off - if they were ok to deal with etc. If no one has heard of them or brought something off them then i don't deal with them, it might be a pain in the ass to lose out on a few deals this way every now and then, but it's better than losing money for nothing.
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 17:50:45 GMT 1, Blaaady hell!, cant believe it happened again Einstein,you got a curse on you or summat?.
There has to be a certain amount of trust by the buyer despite what people say,he lied and let you down and thats that,he even knew it was creased!. I will get my mate Mad Margaret from Crewe onto it,shes brilliant at leaving no bruises.
Blaaady hell!, cant believe it happened again Einstein,you got a curse on you or summat?.
There has to be a certain amount of trust by the buyer despite what people say,he lied and let you down and thats that,he even knew it was creased!. I will get my mate Mad Margaret from Crewe onto it,shes brilliant at leaving no bruises.
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 18:11:57 GMT 1, one thing is that normal people online selling prints wont always know how to handle them without getting a few creases sometimes Haaaaaaaaa i love that Damien, Normal people, never a truer word spoken.
one thing is that normal people online selling prints wont always know how to handle them without getting a few creases sometimes Haaaaaaaaa i love that Damien, Normal people, never a truer word spoken.
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Damien
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by Damien on Jul 23, 2013 18:16:11 GMT 1, one thing is that normal people online selling prnts wont always know how to handle them without getting a few creases sometimes Haaaaaaaaa i love that Damien, Normal people, never a truer word spoken. i crease things when i barely touch them
one thing is that normal people online selling prnts wont always know how to handle them without getting a few creases sometimes Haaaaaaaaa i love that Damien, Normal people, never a truer word spoken. i crease things when i barely touch them
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Damien
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by Damien on Jul 23, 2013 18:40:12 GMT 1, what do the creases look like? any photos?
what do the creases look like? any photos?
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curiousgeorge
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by curiousgeorge on Jul 23, 2013 18:55:08 GMT 1, As it stands we only have one side of story..
Speaking of stories I had a random pm saying you were a gallery and not to make any donations in the charity thread.What's all that about??
As it stands we only have one side of story..
Speaking of stories I had a random pm saying you were a gallery and not to make any donations in the charity thread.What's all that about??
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londonboy
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by londonboy on Jul 23, 2013 20:17:41 GMT 1, I think he's talking about Chyren. Didn't I read somewhere that he's planning his return? What I'd Chyren do to get his account removed?
I m sure chyren is around.. I can smell his presence, And his can of cider..
OT: One time is unfortunate Twice is negligent Thrice is criminal
How do you do your deals dude ? When I think I used to sent envelopes of cash around Britain for prints, And I never had a problem Lucky me
I think he's talking about Chyren. Didn't I read somewhere that he's planning his return? What I'd Chyren do to get his account removed? I m sure chyren is around.. I can smell his presence, And his can of cider.. OT: One time is unfortunate Twice is negligent Thrice is criminal How do you do your deals dude ? When I think I used to sent envelopes of cash around Britain for prints, And I never had a problem Lucky me
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by Deleted on Jul 23, 2013 20:33:25 GMT 1, "Im sure chyren is around.. I can smell his presence, And his can of cider.."
So can i, good evening mr. Londonboy.
"Im sure chyren is around.. I can smell his presence, And his can of cider.."
So can i, good evening mr. Londonboy.
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londonboy
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by londonboy on Jul 23, 2013 20:35:47 GMT 1, "Im sure chyren is around.. I can smell his presence, And his can of cider.." So can i, good evening mr. Londonboy.
Bonsoir Monsieur ..
"Im sure chyren is around.. I can smell his presence, And his can of cider.." So can i, good evening mr. Londonboy. Bonsoir Monsieur ..
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dazarino
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by dazarino on Jul 23, 2013 20:45:38 GMT 1, It's always a gamble to deal on here,you just have to trust your instinct,I have just completed a swap with ottomatic71, it was my first trade on here and I suppose it takes both sides to trust each other,the prints were worth a pretty penny and the trade went really well, so we newbies are not all bad,
It's always a gamble to deal on here,you just have to trust your instinct,I have just completed a swap with ottomatic71, it was my first trade on here and I suppose it takes both sides to trust each other,the prints were worth a pretty penny and the trade went really well, so we newbies are not all bad,
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Damien
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by Damien on Jul 23, 2013 22:39:38 GMT 1, what does the print look like then? how bad are the creases?
what does the print look like then? how bad are the creases?
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randomname
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by randomname on Jul 23, 2013 22:51:37 GMT 1, Bank wire. He's a bloody lawyer !!! And he sent me his ID ! If you can't buy off a lawyer then god help us .. Lets hear the smart arses get out of this one ! Maybe it's just me, but the fact that he's a lawyer makes him less trustworthy in my book. I'd sooner trust a crack fiend than a lawyer.
Bank wire. He's a bloody lawyer !!! And he sent me his ID ! If you can't buy off a lawyer then god help us .. Lets hear the smart arses get out of this one ! Maybe it's just me, but the fact that he's a lawyer makes him less trustworthy in my book. I'd sooner trust a crack fiend than a lawyer.
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Trevorm
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by Trevorm on Jul 23, 2013 22:55:56 GMT 1, Hey, einstein bring it round and I'll sort yr creases out for nowt'. No worries.
Trev the crease man is what they call me in Gipsy hill
Hey, einstein bring it round and I'll sort yr creases out for nowt'. No worries.
Trev the crease man is what they call me in Gipsy hill
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Damien
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BUYERS BEWARE of first time post sales, by Damien on Jul 23, 2013 22:59:28 GMT 1, Bank wire. He's a bloody lawyer !!! And he sent me his ID ! If you can't buy off a lawyer then god help us .. Lets hear the smart arses get out of this one ! Maybe it's just me, but the fact that he's a lawyer makes him less trustworthy in my book. I'd sooner trust a crack fiend than a lawyer.
Bank wire. He's a bloody lawyer !!! And he sent me his ID ! If you can't buy off a lawyer then god help us .. Lets hear the smart arses get out of this one ! Maybe it's just me, but the fact that he's a lawyer makes him less trustworthy in my book. I'd sooner trust a crack fiend than a lawyer.
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