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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by graffuturism on Sept 3, 2013 2:35:29 GMT 1, Kultur I did see the piece that looked like a wash with a more textured look yet it being monochromatic was looked over maybe on my part. Yet I stand by my critique and I hope to see Dolk venture further into these territories, there is so much left to experiment with even with a stencil. So many other stencil artists are able to utilize the medium to distinguish their hand a bit more. Thanks for understanding I am not bashing just calling it how I see it.
Kultur I did see the piece that looked like a wash with a more textured look yet it being monochromatic was looked over maybe on my part. Yet I stand by my critique and I hope to see Dolk venture further into these territories, there is so much left to experiment with even with a stencil. So many other stencil artists are able to utilize the medium to distinguish their hand a bit more. Thanks for understanding I am not bashing just calling it how I see it.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 7:31:02 GMT 1, Maybe I'm biased but can't help thinking it's a little strange that when one our own "makes it", i.e, starts selling work to wealthy art collectors and people outside of this scene, that they come under attack. Surely we should celebrate the fact that self taught artists, with little or no backing, no job to speak of for the past ten years, and no security, have the will and determination to push on and eventually gain a modicum of success. Difficult enough in any field, particularly difficult in the closed and heavily financed world of contemporary art.
Maybe I'm biased but can't help thinking it's a little strange that when one our own "makes it", i.e, starts selling work to wealthy art collectors and people outside of this scene, that they come under attack. Surely we should celebrate the fact that self taught artists, with little or no backing, no job to speak of for the past ten years, and no security, have the will and determination to push on and eventually gain a modicum of success. Difficult enough in any field, particularly difficult in the closed and heavily financed world of contemporary art.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by graffuturism on Sept 3, 2013 8:23:01 GMT 1, I agree Nuart but when you are being heralded as the next Banksy it will come with the territory. His work is actually growing on me as I learn more about the artist. Yet we are all not immune to criticism. The good part is he has entered that next level as far as a price point and demand is strong. Its all open for him now and compared to illegitimate artists such as MBW his demand seems legit in the sense it is deserved.
I agree Nuart but when you are being heralded as the next Banksy it will come with the territory. His work is actually growing on me as I learn more about the artist. Yet we are all not immune to criticism. The good part is he has entered that next level as far as a price point and demand is strong. Its all open for him now and compared to illegitimate artists such as MBW his demand seems legit in the sense it is deserved.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Shoot Again on Sept 3, 2013 8:43:45 GMT 1, I agree Nuart but when you are being heralded as the next Banksy it will come with the territory. His work is actually growing on me as I learn more about the artist. Yet we are all not immune to criticism. The good part is he has entered that next level as far as a price point and demand is strong. Its all open for him now and compared to illegitimate artists such as MBW his demand seems legit in the sense it is deserved.
I agree Nuart but when you are being heralded as the next Banksy it will come with the territory. His work is actually growing on me as I learn more about the artist. Yet we are all not immune to criticism. The good part is he has entered that next level as far as a price point and demand is strong. Its all open for him now and compared to illegitimate artists such as MBW his demand seems legit in the sense it is deserved. What makes an artist "illegitimate" ?!? |
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by gironawatch on Sept 3, 2013 8:55:00 GMT 1, dolk is a very good artist, generally peoples on this forum never like hem, not sure why.
he got a distinctive style like dran or banksy.
very underrated artist but give hem few years..
dolk is a very good artist, generally peoples on this forum never like hem, not sure why.
he got a distinctive style like dran or banksy.
very underrated artist but give hem few years..
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Dr Plip on Sept 3, 2013 9:30:44 GMT 1, I agree Nuart but when you are being heralded as the next Banksy it will come with the territory. His work is actually growing on me as I learn more about the artist. Yet we are all not immune to criticism. The good part is he has entered that next level as far as a price point and demand is strong. Its all open for him now and compared to illegitimate artists such as MBW his demand seems legit in the sense it is deserved. What makes an artist "illegitimate" ?!? 
Good question though. Is the amount of work that an artist puts in, really used to measure whether they deserve their success?
I agree Nuart but when you are being heralded as the next Banksy it will come with the territory. His work is actually growing on me as I learn more about the artist. Yet we are all not immune to criticism. The good part is he has entered that next level as far as a price point and demand is strong. Its all open for him now and compared to illegitimate artists such as MBW his demand seems legit in the sense it is deserved. What makes an artist "illegitimate" ?!? When they're bastards Good question though. Is the amount of work that an artist puts in, really used to measure whether they deserve their success? |
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by graffuturism on Sept 3, 2013 9:48:48 GMT 1, I agree Nuart but when you are being heralded as the next Banksy it will come with the territory. His work is actually growing on me as I learn more about the artist. Yet we are all not immune to criticism. The good part is he has entered that next level as far as a price point and demand is strong. Its all open for him now and compared to illegitimate artists such as MBW his demand seems legit in the sense it is deserved. What makes an artist "illegitimate" ?!?
It's very rare but I was speaking about MBW. I don't consider MBW a legitimate street artist and it isn't because the movie. I don't think he merits his status as a street artist I don't appreciate how he uses a genre and its history in his work when its not honest. Yes he may be a legitimate contemporary artist and can fool that market but I don't acknowledge his work as being urban/graffiti/streetart. It's just maybe me being old school or whatever u want to call it. I can only think about this one example as it is so blatant how he uses the iconography to legitimatize his work.
I agree Nuart but when you are being heralded as the next Banksy it will come with the territory. His work is actually growing on me as I learn more about the artist. Yet we are all not immune to criticism. The good part is he has entered that next level as far as a price point and demand is strong. Its all open for him now and compared to illegitimate artists such as MBW his demand seems legit in the sense it is deserved. What makes an artist "illegitimate" ?!? It's very rare but I was speaking about MBW. I don't consider MBW a legitimate street artist and it isn't because the movie. I don't think he merits his status as a street artist I don't appreciate how he uses a genre and its history in his work when its not honest. Yes he may be a legitimate contemporary artist and can fool that market but I don't acknowledge his work as being urban/graffiti/streetart. It's just maybe me being old school or whatever u want to call it. I can only think about this one example as it is so blatant how he uses the iconography to legitimatize his work. |
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Shoot Again on Sept 3, 2013 10:02:17 GMT 1, What makes an artist "illegitimate" ?!? When they're bastards Good question though. Is the amount of work that an artist puts in, really used to measure whether they deserve their success?
What makes an artist "illegitimate" ?!? When they're bastards Good question though. Is the amount of work that an artist puts in, really used to measure whether they deserve their success? Obviously not "the amount of work that an artist puts in" as most huge / most succesfull contemporary artists don't "produce" their artworks themselves, it's common knowledge and not an issue at all... |
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Shoot Again on Sept 3, 2013 10:05:35 GMT 1, What makes an artist "illegitimate" ?!? It's very rare but I was speaking about MBW. I don't consider MBW a legitimate street artist and it isn't because the movie. I don't think he merits his status as a street artist I don't appreciate how he uses a genre and its history in his work when its not honest. Yes he may be a legitimate contemporary artist and can fool that market but I don't acknowledge his work as being urban/graffiti/streetart. It's just maybe me being old school or whatever u want to call it. I can only think about this one example as it is so blatant how he uses the iconography to legitimatize his work.
What makes an artist "illegitimate" ?!? It's very rare but I was speaking about MBW. I don't consider MBW a legitimate street artist and it isn't because the movie. I don't think he merits his status as a street artist I don't appreciate how he uses a genre and its history in his work when its not honest. Yes he may be a legitimate contemporary artist and can fool that market but I don't acknowledge his work as being urban/graffiti/streetart. It's just maybe me being old school or whatever u want to call it. I can only think about this one example as it is so blatant how he uses the iconography to legitimatize his work. You didn't write "illegitimate street artist" though, you first stated "illegitimate artist" ;-) I don't think any of us can determine who's a "legitimate artist" or not, whether it's JPS or Mr Brainwash (or even Bambi !). You can have an opinion whether it's a good or a bad artist but that's a different thing... Anyway, let's not discuss MBW here (which was not my intention and would just bore everybody to death)... to each is own and ART FOR EVERYBODY ! ;-) Peace |
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by graffuturism on Sept 3, 2013 10:32:47 GMT 1, Your correct and it was my mistake. In our current art world anyone and anything can be considered art. Also I have nothing against any of the other artists u mentioned. I have my opinion and it amounts to the same as anyone else's not much.
Your correct and it was my mistake. In our current art world anyone and anything can be considered art. Also I have nothing against any of the other artists u mentioned. I have my opinion and it amounts to the same as anyone else's not much.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Shoot Again on Sept 3, 2013 10:40:55 GMT 1, Your correct and it was my mistake. In our current art world anyone and anything can be considered art. Also I have nothing against any of the other artists u mentioned. I have my opinion and it amounts to the same as anyone else's not much.
Your correct and it was my mistake. In our current art world anyone and anything can be considered art. Also I have nothing against any of the other artists u mentioned. I have my opinion and it amounts to the same as anyone else's not much. ;-) That being said I fully agree you can find some artist's artworks rubbish (I personally do on many occasions), it's just the "illegitimate" word that put me off. Anyway, no bid geal (at all !) sorry for being an a** with semantics ;-) Take care |
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 10:44:04 GMT 1, Does anyone know what the Instagram page is for this show?
I've checked but I don't think Dolk has one.
Does anyone know what the Instagram page is for this show?
I've checked but I don't think Dolk has one.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by anarquee on Sept 3, 2013 14:36:38 GMT 1, What happened to the hands?!
What happened to the hands?! |
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Damien on Sept 3, 2013 14:41:59 GMT 1, What happened to the hands?!
What happened to the hands?! wolverine hands |
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Pipes on Sept 3, 2013 14:48:23 GMT 1, Hint of Goatse?
Hint of Goatse?
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 16:13:18 GMT 1, I'd agree that MBW, in no way shape or form can be considered a "legitimate" street artist. He simply isn't. Selling work based on the "style" of street artists doesn't make you a street artist, as driving a car doesn't make you rally driver.
edit : Maybe this is a debate for another thread ;-)
I'd agree that MBW, in no way shape or form can be considered a "legitimate" street artist. He simply isn't. Selling work based on the "style" of street artists doesn't make you a street artist, as driving a car doesn't make you rally driver.
edit : Maybe this is a debate for another thread ;-)
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Shoot Again on Sept 3, 2013 16:19:00 GMT 1, I'd agree that MBW, in no way shape or form can be considered a "legitimate" street artist. He simply isn't. Selling work based on the "style" of street artists doesn't make you a street artist, as driving a car doesn't make you rally driver.
I'd agree that MBW, in no way shape or form can be considered a "legitimate" street artist. He simply isn't. Selling work based on the "style" of street artists doesn't make you a street artist, as driving a car doesn't make you rally driver. Who said he wants to be considered as a "legitimate street artist" ?!? I certainly never heard him say that ;-) Have you ever heard what C215 has to say about on "street artist" vs "artist" matter ? As Nuart will host Christian this year, maybe you should discuss it with him ;-) |
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by saint on Sept 3, 2013 17:11:50 GMT 1, Is Martin Whatson considered a legitimate street artist?
Just out of interet, in my eyes he's also painting in the style of a street artist, without actually going through the phase of actually painting on the street.... (Other than legal walls).
Is Martin Whatson considered a legitimate street artist?
Just out of interet, in my eyes he's also painting in the style of a street artist, without actually going through the phase of actually painting on the street.... (Other than legal walls).
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by graffuturism on Sept 3, 2013 18:20:16 GMT 1, I'd agree that MBW, in no way shape or form can be considered a "legitimate" street artist. He simply isn't. Selling work based on the "style" of street artists doesn't make you a street artist, as driving a car doesn't make you rally driver. Who said he wants to be considered as a "legitimate street artist" ?!? I certainly never heard him say that ;-) Have you ever heard what C215 has to say about on "street artist" vs "artist" matter ? As Nuart will host Christian this year, maybe you should discuss it with him ;-)
Regardless if he has said it he is inferring with the subject matter. If he isn't trying be considered a street artist then I have no clue what he is trying to due. He had a chance to respect the culture by being around great artists and really learning the correct way, but he seemed to ignore everything he learned from those guys and be what he is now.
C215 as well as many artists donot appreciate the term or being called a street artist yet they cannot deny the fact that that's exactly what they are. Everyone is an artist of course but regardless of your intent if u paint walls and work I the street your probably a street artist. Labels should be used to help classify not define an artist.
Whatson I don't know enough info about him to make a comment. But I will say that he seems to respect the craft and culture which in my eyes means a lot.
I'd agree that MBW, in no way shape or form can be considered a "legitimate" street artist. He simply isn't. Selling work based on the "style" of street artists doesn't make you a street artist, as driving a car doesn't make you rally driver. Who said he wants to be considered as a "legitimate street artist" ?!? I certainly never heard him say that ;-) Have you ever heard what C215 has to say about on "street artist" vs "artist" matter ? As Nuart will host Christian this year, maybe you should discuss it with him ;-) Regardless if he has said it he is inferring with the subject matter. If he isn't trying be considered a street artist then I have no clue what he is trying to due. He had a chance to respect the culture by being around great artists and really learning the correct way, but he seemed to ignore everything he learned from those guys and be what he is now. C215 as well as many artists donot appreciate the term or being called a street artist yet they cannot deny the fact that that's exactly what they are. Everyone is an artist of course but regardless of your intent if u paint walls and work I the street your probably a street artist. Labels should be used to help classify not define an artist. Whatson I don't know enough info about him to make a comment. But I will say that he seems to respect the craft and culture which in my eyes means a lot. |
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by dazarino on Sept 3, 2013 20:12:04 GMT 1, It's a fact dolk can't paint hands lol
Can't wait for the show though
It's a fact dolk can't paint hands lol
Can't wait for the show though
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 20:50:30 GMT 1, What happened to the hands?!
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Deleted on Sept 3, 2013 21:17:03 GMT 1, What happened to the hands?!
Oh blimey, maybe he's making a subtle reference to his Circus print here ; ) !!
What happened to the hands?! Oh blimey, maybe he's making a subtle reference to his Circus print here ; ) !! |
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by kobron on Sept 3, 2013 22:17:25 GMT 1, It's a fact dolk can't paint hands lol Can't wait for the show though
It's a fact dolk can't paint hands lol Can't wait for the show though |
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by linderman on Sept 3, 2013 23:00:37 GMT 1,
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Ruggs on Sept 3, 2013 23:12:40 GMT 1, I would imagine Christ's hands would have been thin and frail looking, those look like the hands of a guy whose had way too many Big Macs.
I would imagine Christ's hands would have been thin and frail looking, those look like the hands of a guy whose had way too many Big Macs.
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by gravity1 on Sept 3, 2013 23:26:36 GMT 1, Odds are he wasn't wearing a sport coat either but I'm pretty sure this wasn't made to reflect historical or anatomical accuracy.
I would imagine Christ's hands would have been thin and frail looking, those look like the hands of a guy whose had way too many Big Macs.
Odds are he wasn't wearing a sport coat either but I'm pretty sure this wasn't made to reflect historical or anatomical accuracy. I would imagine Christ's hands would have been thin and frail looking, those look like the hands of a guy whose had way too many Big Macs. |
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by dazarino on Sept 10, 2013 20:05:06 GMT 1, Just been to the show today, i was impressed as a lot of the pieces were really quite amazing but a couple should and could have been a lot better but hey just my views, the jesus has Mickey mouses hands so that did make us laugh
the guy who is running the exhibition, was so helpful and there are a few extra pieces not in the brouchure if you ask nicely  ahem the chief in red looks just brilliant
Just been to the show today, i was impressed as a lot of the pieces were really quite amazing but a couple should and could have been a lot better but hey just my views, the jesus has Mickey mouses hands so that did make us laugh the guy who is running the exhibition, was so helpful and there are a few extra pieces not in the brouchure if you ask nicely ahem the chief in red looks just brilliant |
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Dolk - Wildlife @ Galleri S.E. in Bergen , by Deleted on Sept 10, 2013 22:39:14 GMT 1, Just been to the show today, i was impressed as a lot of the pieces were really quite amazing but a couple should and could have been a lot better but hey just my views, the jesus has Mickey mouses hands so that did make us laugh the guy who is running the exhibition, was so helpful and there are a few extra pieces not in the brouchure if you ask nicely ahem the chief in red looks just brilliant
Yep Chief is one of his best images yet (although I am biased!!).
Would love to see that as a print.
Just been to the show today, i was impressed as a lot of the pieces were really quite amazing but a couple should and could have been a lot better but hey just my views, the jesus has Mickey mouses hands so that did make us laugh the guy who is running the exhibition, was so helpful and there are a few extra pieces not in the brouchure if you ask nicely ahem the chief in red looks just brilliant Yep Chief is one of his best images yet (although I am biased!!). Would love to see that as a print. |
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ahem the chief in red looks just brilliant 
