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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by BK83 on Oct 28, 2013 20:14:47 GMT 1, I wonder if one of his minions is called dave
I wonder if one of his minions is called dave It's Dale. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Sacked... on Oct 28, 2013 21:05:44 GMT 1, Ha!, just back on here after winds etc. Hoping to see him doing something other than installations etc., something which cannot be claimed / protected / removed by profiteers etc., maybe some extensive stenciling on a police station or other public building, but i suppose he does what he does. Not long left for this now,be good if he could find somewhere to do a piece that will last, even if it gets tagged etc.. Lock and load.
Ha!, just back on here after winds etc. Hoping to see him doing something other than installations etc., something which cannot be claimed / protected / removed by profiteers etc., maybe some extensive stenciling on a police station or other public building, but i suppose he does what he does. Not long left for this now,be good if he could find somewhere to do a piece that will last, even if it gets tagged etc.. Lock and load. Wiz,i always find a sip of peppermint tea helps with 'winds etc'. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Agent Provocateur on Oct 28, 2013 21:15:20 GMT 1, That'd be freearse graff rather than freehand then wiz! the way forward. 
Johnny, your reputation as connoisseur of Graff is as intact as it ever was  ... mine on the other hand!
Wiz, perfect... would that be done by a stencil arsist!?
Right, getting me DIY three point seat belt sorted for the final installments, it's better to burn out than fade away.
That'd be freearse graff rather than freehand then wiz! the way forward. Johnny, your reputation as connoisseur of Graff is as intact as it ever was ... mine on the other hand! Wiz, perfect... would that be done by a stencil arsist!? Right, getting me DIY three point seat belt sorted for the final installments, it's better to burn out than fade away. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Cornish Crayon on Oct 28, 2013 21:22:48 GMT 1, accent cant be a stencil. Look at the o an r. Dammit, ok part stencil, the '... normally I write like this' is definitely paint through a hole. Still not convinced about the rest either, the over spray seems wrong for freehand, more what you get when using a stencil (the o and r could have had bridges, then filled, or held with wire so it doesn't show).
Definitely this ^^^^
Without fail it's all stencil, and I don't have an opinion or problem with this.......
Plus the size of the piece, it would be near on impossible to get it this clean, and first time, his written pieces are obvious, if it was a pen fair enough, it's clearly sprayed and cut clean .....
accent cant be a stencil. Look at the o an r. Dammit, ok part stencil, the '... normally I write like this' is definitely paint through a hole. Still not convinced about the rest either, the over spray seems wrong for freehand, more what you get when using a stencil (the o and r could have had bridges, then filled, or held with wire so it doesn't show). Definitely this ^^^^ Without fail it's all stencil, and I don't have an opinion or problem with this....... Plus the size of the piece, it would be near on impossible to get it this clean, and first time, his written pieces are obvious, if it was a pen fair enough, it's clearly sprayed and cut clean ..... |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by migsmigsmigs on Oct 28, 2013 21:26:43 GMT 1, I'd agree its a stencil, even with a calligraphy cap it looks too clean to my eye
I'd agree its a stencil, even with a calligraphy cap it looks too clean to my eye
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Quinnster on Oct 28, 2013 22:10:24 GMT 1, Whether his opinion on the new WTC was correct or not, what I appreciate is the honesty and intent to tell it like he sees it. This is sometimes lost with most people trying to always be politically correct.
Today my friend I agree with what you say :-)
Whether his opinion on the new WTC was correct or not, what I appreciate is the honesty and intent to tell it like he sees it. This is sometimes lost with most people trying to always be politically correct. Today my friend I agree with what you say :-) |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Wearology on Oct 28, 2013 22:10:41 GMT 1, Banksy made a rookie mistake with that NY Times mock Op Ed stunt. We know he was trying to be creative, confrontational and humorous - but the rest of the world thinks he sounds like a complete pompous douche. He also just lit a fire under any cop in NY looking to make a name for themselves by arresting the guy who mocked 9/11.
Banksy made a rookie mistake with that NY Times mock Op Ed stunt. We know he was trying to be creative, confrontational and humorous - but the rest of the world thinks he sounds like a complete pompous douche. He also just lit a fire under any cop in NY looking to make a name for themselves by arresting the guy who mocked 9/11.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 28, 2013 22:21:25 GMT 1, Banksy made a rookie mistake with that NY Times mock Op Ed stunt. We know he was trying to be creative, confrontational and humorous - but the rest of the world thinks he sounds like a complete pompous douche. He also just lit a fire under any cop in NY looking to make a name for themselves by arresting the guy who mocked 9/11.
This isn't Die Hard
Banksy made a rookie mistake with that NY Times mock Op Ed stunt. We know he was trying to be creative, confrontational and humorous - but the rest of the world thinks he sounds like a complete pompous douche. He also just lit a fire under any cop in NY looking to make a name for themselves by arresting the guy who mocked 9/11. Really don't think it's being taken that seriously around here man. This isn't Die Hard |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 28, 2013 22:30:38 GMT 1, Really don't think it's being taken that seriously around here man. This isn't Die Hard I had a very similar conversation with someone about a eek ago about how the new WTC looks boring compared to the original designs. I don't see it as him mocking 9/11 I looked at it as someone giving an honest opinion that a lot of people think but dont say.
Really don't think it's being taken that seriously around here man. This isn't Die Hard I had a very similar conversation with someone about a eek ago about how the new WTC looks boring compared to the original designs. I don't see it as him mocking 9/11 I looked at it as someone giving an honest opinion that a lot of people think but dont say. I honestly don't give a sh!t about the new building... it's New York. I was pleased with the whole reflecting pool thing, and I thought they did a nice job with the memorial part - albeit 10 fckn years later?! - and I think after that, it's a non=issue. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by My Name is Frank on Oct 28, 2013 22:42:55 GMT 1, Banksy made a rookie mistake with that NY Times mock Op Ed stunt. We know he was trying to be creative, confrontational and humorous - but the rest of the world thinks he sounds like a complete pompous douche. He also just lit a fire under any cop in NY looking to make a name for themselves by arresting the guy who mocked 9/11. Really don't think it's being taken that seriously around here man. This isn't Die Hard
I really don't think he can sound like a douche unless you feel protective over the building. The opportunity was there for something different, I believe that as much as the buildings looks are not in any way inspiring, it's function and purpose are what is being attacked by Banksy here for its uninspiring goal. It could have been re-purposed, the area of memorial made a place where communities can mourn, but change the business district rules and create something new and creative, perhaps a place for artists to enrich the culture, or global charities who help bring change to the world to make things better, but it wasn't to be.
He's not being out of character at all, it is free ranges barcode he's been looking for this show, commercialism will always win out, even when the opportunity for change comes from an event as horrific as this, the city ensures that a commercial block is replaced with a commercial block and to make damn sure it's filled, make it a very patriotic height to ensure american tenants feel an obligation to rent because of the sites past.
Or I might have just read more into it and he does just not like the architecture.
Banksy made a rookie mistake with that NY Times mock Op Ed stunt. We know he was trying to be creative, confrontational and humorous - but the rest of the world thinks he sounds like a complete pompous douche. He also just lit a fire under any cop in NY looking to make a name for themselves by arresting the guy who mocked 9/11. Really don't think it's being taken that seriously around here man. This isn't Die Hard I really don't think he can sound like a douche unless you feel protective over the building. The opportunity was there for something different, I believe that as much as the buildings looks are not in any way inspiring, it's function and purpose are what is being attacked by Banksy here for its uninspiring goal. It could have been re-purposed, the area of memorial made a place where communities can mourn, but change the business district rules and create something new and creative, perhaps a place for artists to enrich the culture, or global charities who help bring change to the world to make things better, but it wasn't to be. He's not being out of character at all, it is free ranges barcode he's been looking for this show, commercialism will always win out, even when the opportunity for change comes from an event as horrific as this, the city ensures that a commercial block is replaced with a commercial block and to make damn sure it's filled, make it a very patriotic height to ensure american tenants feel an obligation to rent because of the sites past. Or I might have just read more into it and he does just not like the architecture. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by doyle on Oct 28, 2013 22:47:11 GMT 1, i can also see it in a positive way, in that it sounds like he has experienced NYC as this dynamic,bold,strong thinking city in the past,and hopes it can keep going this way, looking forward.
i can also see it in a positive way, in that it sounds like he has experienced NYC as this dynamic,bold,strong thinking city in the past,and hopes it can keep going this way, looking forward.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by illu on Oct 28, 2013 22:47:42 GMT 1, bla bla bla bla bla bla.....like the robot
bla bla bla bla bla bla.....like the robot
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Gramvino on Oct 28, 2013 22:50:14 GMT 1, I'd never seen this Banksy interview before.
Clearly his voice, and obviously "Gunningham" This is very old I'm sure. But sort of confirms it for me. I'm more confused how no one see's him on the streets. Even London, bristol. Anywhere in the UK.
I'd never seen this Banksy interview before.
Clearly his voice, and obviously "Gunningham" This is very old I'm sure. But sort of confirms it for me. I'm more confused how no one see's him on the streets. Even London, bristol. Anywhere in the UK.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by graffuturism on Oct 28, 2013 22:59:10 GMT 1, 
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Gramvino on Oct 28, 2013 23:12:16 GMT 1,
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by curiousgeorge on Oct 28, 2013 23:14:02 GMT 1, Banksy made a rookie mistake with that NY Times mock Op Ed stunt. We know he was trying to be creative, confrontational and humorous - but the rest of the world thinks he sounds like a complete pompous douche. He also just lit a fire under any cop in NY looking to make a name for themselves by arresting the guy who mocked 9/11.
Pretty sure it's not the rest of the world that thinks he is a pompous douche
Banksy made a rookie mistake with that NY Times mock Op Ed stunt. We know he was trying to be creative, confrontational and humorous - but the rest of the world thinks he sounds like a complete pompous douche. He also just lit a fire under any cop in NY looking to make a name for themselves by arresting the guy who mocked 9/11. Reads worse than the trashy newspapers reporting this Pretty sure it's not the rest of the world that thinks he is a pompous douche |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 28, 2013 23:20:50 GMT 1, Banksy made a rookie mistake with that NY Times mock Op Ed stunt. We know he was trying to be creative, confrontational and humorous - but the rest of the world thinks he sounds like a complete pompous douche. He also just lit a fire under any cop in NY looking to make a name for themselves by arresting the guy who mocked 9/11.
Banksy made a rookie mistake with that NY Times mock Op Ed stunt. We know he was trying to be creative, confrontational and humorous - but the rest of the world thinks he sounds like a complete pompous douche. He also just lit a fire under any cop in NY looking to make a name for themselves by arresting the guy who mocked 9/11. He didn't mock 9/11. He called it "An attack on all of us". His mocking comments were about the new building and the message it sends. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Hairbland on Oct 28, 2013 23:23:53 GMT 1, Banksy made a rookie mistake with that NY Times mock Op Ed stunt. We know he was trying to be creative, confrontational and humorous - but the rest of the world thinks he sounds like a complete pompous douche. He also just lit a fire under any cop in NY looking to make a name for themselves by arresting the guy who mocked 9/11. Really don't think it's being taken that seriously around here man. This isn't Die Hard
I did not take him as mocking 9/11.
In fact, there was a collective guffaw when we heard it would be known as the Freedom Tower, and we think it's lameass stoopid that it's going to be 1,776 feet tall.
Banksy made a rookie mistake with that NY Times mock Op Ed stunt. We know he was trying to be creative, confrontational and humorous - but the rest of the world thinks he sounds like a complete pompous douche. He also just lit a fire under any cop in NY looking to make a name for themselves by arresting the guy who mocked 9/11. Really don't think it's being taken that seriously around here man. This isn't Die Hard I'm a native NY'er who put ash-covered friends up in my apartment, had a friend die inside and another friend who decided to get a bagel and coffee instead of rushing up to work seeing some of the jumpers splat around her. I did not take him as mocking 9/11. In fact, there was a collective guffaw when we heard it would be known as the Freedom Tower, and we think it's lameass stoopid that it's going to be 1,776 feet tall. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 28, 2013 23:24:11 GMT 1, Banksy made a rookie mistake with that NY Times mock Op Ed stunt. We know he was trying to be creative, confrontational and humorous - but the rest of the world thinks he sounds like a complete pompous douche. He also just lit a fire under any cop in NY looking to make a name for themselves by arresting the guy who mocked 9/11. He didn't mock 9/11. He called it "An attack on all of us". His mocking comments were about the new building and the message it sends.
Banksy made a rookie mistake with that NY Times mock Op Ed stunt. We know he was trying to be creative, confrontational and humorous - but the rest of the world thinks he sounds like a complete pompous douche. He also just lit a fire under any cop in NY looking to make a name for themselves by arresting the guy who mocked 9/11. He didn't mock 9/11. He called it "An attack on all of us". His mocking comments were about the new building and the message it sends. How the two are being blurred or confused is completely beyond me. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 28, 2013 23:30:25 GMT 1, Really don't think it's being taken that seriously around here man. This isn't Die Hard I'm a native NY'er who put ash-covered friends up in my apartment, had a friend die inside and another friend who decided to get a bagel and coffee instead of rushing up to work seeing some of the jumpers splat around her. I did not take him as mocking 9/11. In fact, there was a collective guffaw when we heard it would be known as the Freedom Tower, and we think it's lameass stoopid that it's going to be 1,776 feet tall.
Really don't think it's being taken that seriously around here man. This isn't Die Hard I'm a native NY'er who put ash-covered friends up in my apartment, had a friend die inside and another friend who decided to get a bagel and coffee instead of rushing up to work seeing some of the jumpers splat around her. I did not take him as mocking 9/11. In fact, there was a collective guffaw when we heard it would be known as the Freedom Tower, and we think it's lameass stoopid that it's going to be 1,776 feet tall. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 28, 2013 23:35:12 GMT 1, I truthfully had to stop reading that several times - and never actually finished.
Please do us Americans (and esp. NYCers) a favor and discontinue visiting that website.
I truthfully had to stop reading that several times - and never actually finished. Please do us Americans (and esp. NYCers) a favor and discontinue visiting that website. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by anodyne13 on Oct 28, 2013 23:36:29 GMT 1,
You would not want any controversy from the controversial artist you are trying to capitalize on.
You would not want any controversy from the controversial artist you are trying to capitalize on. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 23:45:17 GMT 1, Whassappnin?.
Whassappnin?.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 28, 2013 23:47:51 GMT 1, Just as I suspected when I posted here earlier in the day. Going anywhere near the 9/11 topic is going to set off a firestorm. He really did make a "rookie" mistake. Like a NYer going somewhere else in the world and trying to comment on a tragedy they viewed from afar. You just don't do it. You nod and listen to the locals. Yes everyone is entitled to their opinions but Banksy is now a celebrity and when celebrities make comments on politics and such most people just want them to shut the F up. NYPD and FDNY are going to make it their mission to expose him. I hope they fail but I can say one thing if Rudy Guiliani was still mayor he would be in Rikers Island jail already.
Just as I suspected when I posted here earlier in the day. Going anywhere near the 9/11 topic is going to set off a firestorm. He really did make a "rookie" mistake. Like a NYer going somewhere else in the world and trying to comment on a tragedy they viewed from afar. You just don't do it. You nod and listen to the locals. Yes everyone is entitled to their opinions but Banksy is now a celebrity and when celebrities make comments on politics and such most people just want them to shut the F up. NYPD and FDNY are going to make it their mission to expose him. I hope they fail but I can say one thing if Rudy Guiliani was still mayor he would be in Rikers Island jail already.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by BootjackBandit on Oct 28, 2013 23:51:53 GMT 1, I truthfully had to stop reading that several times - and never actually finished. Please do us Americans (and esp. NYCers) a favor and discontinue visiting that website.
Banksy has not responded to the "snub" but a response may be in the works.
Ha, how dumb
I truthfully had to stop reading that several times - and never actually finished. Please do us Americans (and esp. NYCers) a favor and discontinue visiting that website. Banksy has not responded to the "snub" but a response may be in the works. Ha, how dumb |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by vinzc on Oct 28, 2013 23:55:36 GMT 1, What? Century21 putting on a Banksy show? Laughable
What? Century21 putting on a Banksy show? Laughable
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