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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by spirit on Oct 30, 2013 14:40:53 GMT 1, I think the Nazi works on a couple of levels...
First there is the simple visual contrast gag - the last thing you expect to see in that beautiful countryside scene is a nazi - its therefore amusing when you do.
But the title of the image is also important which references the "Banality of Evil" - a book by Hannah Arendt which reported on the trial of Adolf Eichmann.
The point of that book is that although being one of the major organisers of the Holocaust, Eichmann did not come across as anti-semitic or psychopathic - he was no monster. One doctor remarked that the only unusual trait Eichmann displayed was being more "normal" in his habits and speech than the average person. He displayed neither guilt nor hatred at his trial claiming he bore no responsibility as he was just doing his job.
In other words you don't have to be an "evil" person to do "evil" things. "Normal" people can do terrible things in certain situations.
In Banksy's image what we see is a Nazi (generally perceived as evil) doing something banally normal - sitting down and enjoying the view.
Of course Banksy adds the double twist of calling it The banality of the banality of evil. Still getting my head round that bit!
I think the Nazi works on a couple of levels...
First there is the simple visual contrast gag - the last thing you expect to see in that beautiful countryside scene is a nazi - its therefore amusing when you do.
But the title of the image is also important which references the "Banality of Evil" - a book by Hannah Arendt which reported on the trial of Adolf Eichmann.
The point of that book is that although being one of the major organisers of the Holocaust, Eichmann did not come across as anti-semitic or psychopathic - he was no monster. One doctor remarked that the only unusual trait Eichmann displayed was being more "normal" in his habits and speech than the average person. He displayed neither guilt nor hatred at his trial claiming he bore no responsibility as he was just doing his job.
In other words you don't have to be an "evil" person to do "evil" things. "Normal" people can do terrible things in certain situations.
In Banksy's image what we see is a Nazi (generally perceived as evil) doing something banally normal - sitting down and enjoying the view.
Of course Banksy adds the double twist of calling it The banality of the banality of evil. Still getting my head round that bit!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Robert Stevens on Oct 30, 2013 14:45:29 GMT 1,
I'm gonna pop some tags. Only got half a million in my pocket.
I'm gonna pop some tags. Only got half a million in my pocket.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Damien on Oct 30, 2013 14:56:31 GMT 1, I'm gonna pop some tags. Only got half a million in my pocket. have you made a bid? not sure what 'i'm gonna pop some tags' means
I'm gonna pop some tags. Only got half a million in my pocket. have you made a bid? not sure what 'i'm gonna pop some tags' means
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by shechtmr on Oct 30, 2013 14:59:20 GMT 1, I'm gonna pop some tags. Only got half a million in my pocket. have you made a bid? not sure what 'i'm gonna pop some tags' means It is a lyric from a song called thrift shop by Macklemore and Ryan Lewis.
I'm gonna pop some tags. Only got half a million in my pocket. have you made a bid? not sure what 'i'm gonna pop some tags' means It is a lyric from a song called thrift shop by Macklemore and Ryan Lewis.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Damien on Oct 30, 2013 15:02:07 GMT 1, oh right thanks
oh right thanks
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by drachinfire on Oct 30, 2013 15:55:28 GMT 1, Another late day today, eh?
Another late day today, eh?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by nrgball on Oct 30, 2013 16:00:10 GMT 1, Pretty cool. If anyone grabs an extra, i would love to do a tradewise mitzvah as well. Looks like a fun piece. See you in AC in a few days, Mr. Kyle!!! Yeahh!
Reading was the tits!!
Pretty cool. If anyone grabs an extra, i would love to do a tradewise mitzvah as well. Looks like a fun piece. See you in AC in a few days, Mr. Kyle!!! Yeahh! Reading was the tits!!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by drachinfire on Oct 30, 2013 16:02:19 GMT 1, I haven't listened yet but this fall tour has been lights out. I was in AC for the last Halloween show there - you guys are in for one hell of a show down at Boardwalk Hall. Not a little jealous...
I haven't listened yet but this fall tour has been lights out. I was in AC for the last Halloween show there - you guys are in for one hell of a show down at Boardwalk Hall. Not a little jealous...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 30, 2013 16:07:19 GMT 1, I haven't listened yet but this fall tour has been lights out. I was in AC for the last Halloween show there - you guys are in for one hell of a show down at Boardwalk Hall. Not a little jealous... PH man are we drachin?!
I haven't listened yet but this fall tour has been lights out. I was in AC for the last Halloween show there - you guys are in for one hell of a show down at Boardwalk Hall. Not a little jealous... PH man are we drachin?!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 30, 2013 16:11:15 GMT 1, Not Banksy, but whilst we're waiting:
Not Banksy, but whilst we're waiting:
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by DashingD on Oct 30, 2013 16:13:07 GMT 1, There's the rat that's been on @streetartnews and @joshuabgeyer Twitter feeds.
Anyone else seen it?
There's the rat that's been on @streetartnews and @joshuabgeyer Twitter feeds.
Anyone else seen it?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by drachinfire on Oct 30, 2013 16:14:02 GMT 1, I haven't listened yet but this fall tour has been lights out. I was in AC for the last Halloween show there - you guys are in for one hell of a show down at Boardwalk Hall. Not a little jealous... PH man are we drachin?! Oh yeah. I'm forgoing Halloween this year for my first actual NYE show, as opposed to my more traditional "every show in the run but the NYE show, including a New Year's Day show" approach.
I haven't listened yet but this fall tour has been lights out. I was in AC for the last Halloween show there - you guys are in for one hell of a show down at Boardwalk Hall. Not a little jealous... PH man are we drachin?! Oh yeah. I'm forgoing Halloween this year for my first actual NYE show, as opposed to my more traditional "every show in the run but the NYE show, including a New Year's Day show" approach.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by drachinfire on Oct 30, 2013 16:14:57 GMT 1, There's the rat that's been on @streetartnews and @joshuabgeyer Twitter feeds. Anyone else seen it? the tiny little crappily sprayed one? is it on a yellow wall and the rat is holding a toxic waste barrel or something?
There's the rat that's been on @streetartnews and @joshuabgeyer Twitter feeds. Anyone else seen it? the tiny little crappily sprayed one? is it on a yellow wall and the rat is holding a toxic waste barrel or something?
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kbfrombk
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 30, 2013 16:16:35 GMT 1, Oh yeah. I'm forgoing Halloween this year for my first actual NYE show, as opposed to my more traditional "every show in the run but the NYE show, including a New Year's Day show" approach. Good on you! hahaha.... I'll keep the sanctity of this thread by not expunging further on Ph for now.
Plus we'll probably need some topics to discuss on Nov.1!
Oh yeah. I'm forgoing Halloween this year for my first actual NYE show, as opposed to my more traditional "every show in the run but the NYE show, including a New Year's Day show" approach. Good on you! hahaha.... I'll keep the sanctity of this thread by not expunging further on Ph for now. Plus we'll probably need some topics to discuss on Nov.1!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by drachinfire on Oct 30, 2013 16:17:07 GMT 1, There's the rat that's been on @streetartnews and @joshuabgeyer Twitter feeds. Anyone else seen it? the tiny little crappily sprayed one? is it on a yellow wall and the rat is holding a toxic waste barrel or something? Just saw the pic - doesn't look like him - the spray is super uneven and it looks like somebody did it in Krylon.
Come on now, we all know Banksy sprays nothing but Montana Gold.
There's the rat that's been on @streetartnews and @joshuabgeyer Twitter feeds. Anyone else seen it? the tiny little crappily sprayed one? is it on a yellow wall and the rat is holding a toxic waste barrel or something? Just saw the pic - doesn't look like him - the spray is super uneven and it looks like somebody did it in Krylon. Come on now, we all know Banksy sprays nothing but Montana Gold.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 30, 2013 16:17:52 GMT 1, the tiny little crappily sprayed one? is it on a yellow wall and the rat is holding a toxic waste barrel or something? Just saw the pic - doesn't look like him - the spray is super uneven and it looks like somebody did it in Krylon. Come on now, we all know Banksy sprays nothing but Montana Gold. Also looks to be floating in the middle of the wall, best I can tell...
the tiny little crappily sprayed one? is it on a yellow wall and the rat is holding a toxic waste barrel or something? Just saw the pic - doesn't look like him - the spray is super uneven and it looks like somebody did it in Krylon. Come on now, we all know Banksy sprays nothing but Montana Gold. Also looks to be floating in the middle of the wall, best I can tell...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by shechtmr on Oct 30, 2013 16:18:59 GMT 1, There's the rat that's been on @streetartnews and @joshuabgeyer Twitter feeds. Anyone else seen it? looks way to sloppy to me, but maybe intentionally so given the words on the placard
There's the rat that's been on @streetartnews and @joshuabgeyer Twitter feeds. Anyone else seen it? looks way to sloppy to me, but maybe intentionally so given the words on the placard
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 30, 2013 16:19:12 GMT 1, Might be a warmer lead...
vine.co/v/hDdqYM53qYI
Might be a warmer lead... vine.co/v/hDdqYM53qYI
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by drachinfire on Oct 30, 2013 16:33:51 GMT 1, Might be a warmer lead... vine.co/v/hDdqYM53qYI Veeeeeeery interesting.
Might be a warmer lead... vine.co/v/hDdqYM53qYI Veeeeeeery interesting.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Emile on Oct 30, 2013 16:37:35 GMT 1, Might be a warmer lead... vine.co/v/hDdqYM53qYI If that is by Banksy, then it would be my guess that that is actually for tomorrow.. sort of a "grand finale"
I'm expecting to see "just" a stencil today tbh
Might be a warmer lead... vine.co/v/hDdqYM53qYI If that is by Banksy, then it would be my guess that that is actually for tomorrow.. sort of a "grand finale" I'm expecting to see "just" a stencil today tbh
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 30, 2013 16:41:57 GMT 1, Might be a warmer lead... vine.co/v/hDdqYM53qYI If that is by Banksy, then it would be my guess that that is actually for tomorrow.. sort of a "grand finale" I'm expecting to see "just" a stencil today tbh Yea, I'm no expert! ANIMAL tweeted it and did not reveal anything (which is unusual for them) so that's all I got for ya for now
Might be a warmer lead... vine.co/v/hDdqYM53qYI If that is by Banksy, then it would be my guess that that is actually for tomorrow.. sort of a "grand finale" I'm expecting to see "just" a stencil today tbh Yea, I'm no expert! ANIMAL tweeted it and did not reveal anything (which is unusual for them) so that's all I got for ya for now
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by mubbs695 on Oct 30, 2013 16:46:46 GMT 1, Thats SICK!!!
Thats SICK!!!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by sufsean on Oct 30, 2013 16:48:28 GMT 1, If that is by Banksy, then it would be my guess that that is actually for tomorrow.. sort of a "grand finale" I'm expecting to see "just" a stencil today tbh Yea, I'm no expert! ANIMAL tweeted it and did not reveal anything (which is unusual for them) so that's all I got for ya for now That vine link doesn't play for me. Anyway, someone can embed this?
If that is by Banksy, then it would be my guess that that is actually for tomorrow.. sort of a "grand finale" I'm expecting to see "just" a stencil today tbh Yea, I'm no expert! ANIMAL tweeted it and did not reveal anything (which is unusual for them) so that's all I got for ya for now That vine link doesn't play for me. Anyway, someone can embed this?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by mubbs695 on Oct 30, 2013 16:49:15 GMT 1, you arent missing much
you arent missing much
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Emile on Oct 30, 2013 16:49:17 GMT 1, If that is by Banksy, then it would be my guess that that is actually for tomorrow.. sort of a "grand finale" I'm expecting to see "just" a stencil today tbh Yea, I'm no expert! ANIMAL tweeted it and did not reveal anything (which is unusual for them) so that's all I got for ya for now
So.. the lights kind of remind me of the colorways of CYW
just saying...
If that is by Banksy, then it would be my guess that that is actually for tomorrow.. sort of a "grand finale" I'm expecting to see "just" a stencil today tbh Yea, I'm no expert! ANIMAL tweeted it and did not reveal anything (which is unusual for them) so that's all I got for ya for now So.. the lights kind of remind me of the colorways of CYW just saying...
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 30, 2013 16:50:30 GMT 1, Yea, I'm no expert! ANIMAL tweeted it and did not reveal anything (which is unusual for them) so that's all I got for ya for now That vine link doesn't play for me. Anyway, someone can embed this? You're the guy who was slinging Banksy car doors and cans, right?
See what happens Larry?
Yea, I'm no expert! ANIMAL tweeted it and did not reveal anything (which is unusual for them) so that's all I got for ya for now That vine link doesn't play for me. Anyway, someone can embed this? You're the guy who was slinging Banksy car doors and cans, right? See what happens Larry?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by BK83 on Oct 30, 2013 16:50:51 GMT 1, Might be a warmer lead... vine.co/v/hDdqYM53qYI Veeeeeeery interesting. Is it, though? I mean, really. Is it?
Might be a warmer lead... vine.co/v/hDdqYM53qYI Veeeeeeery interesting. Is it, though? I mean, really. Is it?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 30, 2013 16:52:09 GMT 1, Is it, though? I mean, really. Is it? It is, and it isn't. At the same time. Is what my answer would be.
Is it, though? I mean, really. Is it? It is, and it isn't. At the same time. Is what my answer would be.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by drachinfire on Oct 30, 2013 16:52:18 GMT 1, Is it, though? I mean, really. Is it? It was mildly interesting. I assumed my use of 8 e's would have tipped you off to that.
Is it, though? I mean, really. Is it? It was mildly interesting. I assumed my use of 8 e's would have tipped you off to that.
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