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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 18:45:20 GMT 1, Yes there are 2. This one has no flower and looks a bit rushed. Might have had to bail before he could finish. Someone put a flower on it for him before the usual happens.
Yes there are 2. This one has no flower and looks a bit rushed. Might have had to bail before he could finish. Someone put a flower on it for him before the usual happens.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Coach on Oct 15, 2013 18:46:16 GMT 1, I see it as a touching tribute to needless death and violence... the flower is representing an explosion, but from the explosion comes beauty, love and hope in the form of a natural flower. I can't see anything negative in it, probably one of Banky's most touching, thoughful and poignant pieces to date imo... he either has many more levels than we thought, or is a big softy at heart. Apologies Wiz... thinking again!
Cracking post matey boy.
I see it as a touching tribute to needless death and violence... the flower is representing an explosion, but from the explosion comes beauty, love and hope in the form of a natural flower. I can't see anything negative in it, probably one of Banky's most touching, thoughful and poignant pieces to date imo... he either has many more levels than we thought, or is a big softy at heart. Apologies Wiz... thinking again! Cracking post matey boy.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Coach on Oct 15, 2013 18:47:39 GMT 1, I'm really not sure on this one; itโs gonna give a lot of people an excuse to have a go. Any positive symbolism for that event in this work is too well hidden for me to decipher. Itโs just as easy to read it as the plane crashing into the tower was a beautiful thing and for it to be taken as anti-American. Iโm very interested in our American and especially NYC board members views on this one. FWIW I thought the Horses piece on Lower East Side was brilliant. The positive symbolism is simply the flower. When people die, people leave flowers in their memory. This is a flower left in memory of those who died when the planes hit the Twin Towers. I have no doubt it was done out of respect and is not at all anti-American I also have no doubt some people wont see it that way...
Another fine post. I concur with my learned friend and have nothing to add.
I'm really not sure on this one; itโs gonna give a lot of people an excuse to have a go. Any positive symbolism for that event in this work is too well hidden for me to decipher. Itโs just as easy to read it as the plane crashing into the tower was a beautiful thing and for it to be taken as anti-American. Iโm very interested in our American and especially NYC board members views on this one. FWIW I thought the Horses piece on Lower East Side was brilliant. The positive symbolism is simply the flower. When people die, people leave flowers in their memory. This is a flower left in memory of those who died when the planes hit the Twin Towers. I have no doubt it was done out of respect and is not at all anti-American I also have no doubt some people wont see it that way... Another fine post. I concur with my learned friend and have nothing to add.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 18:48:03 GMT 1, No audio with this piece? No telephone number sprayed somewhere? Maybe it doesnt need one Json. True!
No audio with this piece? No telephone number sprayed somewhere? Maybe it doesnt need one Json. True!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Jameszee on Oct 15, 2013 19:02:37 GMT 1, I am finally back in America and I have been able to secure a bunch of Village Voice Newspapers today for my fellow forum members. Once again I do not want any money, trades, etc. or even the cost for shipping it anywhere in the world just "pass it on" in the future. I originally stated that I had run out of all the copies of the Voice that Dreadnatty gave me for you guys, but that no longer applies since I have been able to re-fill. Send me PM's with your name & address & I will send you some NY Banksy love from across the Pond.
Kudos to Wear- Top man!
I am finally back in America and I have been able to secure a bunch of Village Voice Newspapers today for my fellow forum members. Once again I do not want any money, trades, etc. or even the cost for shipping it anywhere in the world just "pass it on" in the future. I originally stated that I had run out of all the copies of the Voice that Dreadnatty gave me for you guys, but that no longer applies since I have been able to re-fill. Send me PM's with your name & address & I will send you some NY Banksy love from across the Pond. Kudos to Wear- Top man!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Forbidden Love on Oct 15, 2013 19:05:49 GMT 1, Really like this piece.
Really like this piece.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by antigrav on Oct 15, 2013 19:05:51 GMT 1, Perhaps this is a series or sequence?
Perhaps this is a series or sequence?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by elwheel on Oct 15, 2013 19:17:04 GMT 1, He did a concrete confessional on my b-day he did Crazy Horse on mine:)
I got a beaver on mine. Thank God.
He did a concrete confessional on my b-day he did Crazy Horse on mine:) I got a beaver on mine. Thank God.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 19:20:21 GMT 1, Just had to upgrade to photobucket plus. Dam banksy month lol. Ha, we should all chip in for all the great pictures you chaps in NY have been showing us, we cost a fortune to run!
Just had to upgrade to photobucket plus. Dam banksy month lol. Ha, we should all chip in for all the great pictures you chaps in NY have been showing us, we cost a fortune to run!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kobron on Oct 15, 2013 19:22:09 GMT 1, lotus flower en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelumbosacred or Indian lotus, also known as the Rose of India and the sacred water lily of Hinduism and Buddhism. Love this ^, very poetic. It was an orange Chrysantheumum though innit?. The first written mention of Chrysantheumum found in the writings of Confucius. Confucius-"Never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself"
(so random and fast .... google +wiki -but rather a bad ...)
lotus flower en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelumbosacred or Indian lotus, also known as the Rose of India and the sacred water lily of Hinduism and Buddhism. Love this ^, very poetic. It was an orange Chrysantheumum though innit?. The first written mention of Chrysantheumum found in the writings of Confucius. Confucius-"Never impose on others what you would not choose for yourself" (so random and fast .... google +wiki - but rather a bad ...)
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kobron on Oct 15, 2013 19:32:05 GMT 1, (...) ,,But hey, what fun would Better Out Than In be if it we couldn't make any claims about the intentions of someone whose face we've never seen?,,(...)
(...) ,,But hey, what fun would Better Out Than In be if it we couldn't make any claims about the intentions of someone whose face we've never seen?,,(...)
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by mmmike on Oct 15, 2013 19:33:58 GMT 1, Seems like Trusto Corp might be getting a tad jealous? Even if its not the next piece its funny as hell imo I was hoping more NY based artists would get out there and do some great stuff to try to show up Banksy rather than just a few destroying his work. I really like these signs.
Seems like Trusto Corp might be getting a tad jealous? Even if its not the next piece its funny as hell imo I was hoping more NY based artists would get out there and do some great stuff to try to show up Banksy rather than just a few destroying his work. I really like these signs.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by mmmike on Oct 15, 2013 19:38:33 GMT 1, To me the towers seem a bit like sucking up to NYC. There are so many atrocities around the world all the time. NY's 9-11 wasn't that big in the grand scheme of things. Terrible, don't get me wrong but with all the hate Banksy has gotten in NY it seems like he is trying to suck up a bit.
Cool effect with the flower.
To me the towers seem a bit like sucking up to NYC. There are so many atrocities around the world all the time. NY's 9-11 wasn't that big in the grand scheme of things. Terrible, don't get me wrong but with all the hate Banksy has gotten in NY it seems like he is trying to suck up a bit.
Cool effect with the flower.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Emile on Oct 15, 2013 19:44:08 GMT 1, Those signs are probably his, imo the way I see it they're very much his style
Those signs are probably his, imo the way I see it they're very much his style
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Dungle on Oct 15, 2013 19:45:00 GMT 1, To me the towers seem a bit like sucking up to NYC. There are so many atrocities around the world all the time. NY's 9-11 wasn't that big in the grand scheme of things. Terrible, don't get me wrong but with all the hate Banksy has gotten in NY it seems like he is trying to suck up a bit.ย Cool effect with the flower.
Well as he's in NYC, that's why he's doing a piece relevant to the biggest atrocity that city suffered. Doing a piece in relation to an atrocity in another country would not be that relevant no?
To me the towers seem a bit like sucking up to NYC. There are so many atrocities around the world all the time. NY's 9-11 wasn't that big in the grand scheme of things. Terrible, don't get me wrong but with all the hate Banksy has gotten in NY it seems like he is trying to suck up a bit.ย Cool effect with the flower. Well as he's in NYC, that's why he's doing a piece relevant to the biggest atrocity that city suffered. Doing a piece in relation to an atrocity in another country would not be that relevant no?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Warm Gun on Oct 15, 2013 19:48:50 GMT 1, Those signs are probably his, imo the way I see it they're very much his style Nah, they are made by TrustoCorp.
Similar humour though.
www.trustocorp.com/
Those signs are probably his, imo the way I see it they're very much his style Nah, they are made by TrustoCorp. Similar humour though. www.trustocorp.com/
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Emile on Oct 15, 2013 19:50:10 GMT 1, Those signs are probably his, imo the way I see it they're very much his style Nah, they are made by TrustoCorp. Similar humour though.
Ah! Must have missed that. Thanks Love them!
Those signs are probably his, imo the way I see it they're very much his style Nah, they are made by TrustoCorp. Similar humour though. Ah! Must have missed that. Thanks Love them!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Warm Gun on Oct 15, 2013 19:50:44 GMT 1, Me too!
Me too!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Warm Gun on Oct 15, 2013 19:56:24 GMT 1, To me the towers seem a bit like sucking up to NYC. There are so many atrocities around the world all the time. NY's 9-11 wasn't that big in the grand scheme of things. Terrible, don't get me wrong but with all the hate Banksy has gotten in NY it seems like he is trying to suck up a bit. Cool effect with the flower. 911 transcended being just a New York atrocity, I think the entire Western world felt the effect of that day. I don't think he's sucking up whatsoever, He's just paying his personal respects.
To me the towers seem a bit like sucking up to NYC. There are so many atrocities around the world all the time. NY's 9-11 wasn't that big in the grand scheme of things. Terrible, don't get me wrong but with all the hate Banksy has gotten in NY it seems like he is trying to suck up a bit. Cool effect with the flower. 911 transcended being just a New York atrocity, I think the entire Western world felt the effect of that day. I don't think he's sucking up whatsoever, He's just paying his personal respects.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by dreadnatty on Oct 15, 2013 19:56:38 GMT 1, Those signs are probably his, imo the way I see it they're very much his style Nah, they are made by TrustoCorp. Similar humour though. www.trustocorp.com/ The white sign is on Bedford/N.7th for those in the Williamsburg area
Those signs are probably his, imo the way I see it they're very much his style Nah, they are made by TrustoCorp. Similar humour though. www.trustocorp.com/The white sign is on Bedford/N.7th for those in the Williamsburg area
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Warm Gun on Oct 15, 2013 19:58:04 GMT 1, I didn't realise that the chrysanthemum was singed, I just assumed it was overspray from the black paint.....nice touch.
I didn't realise that the chrysanthemum was singed, I just assumed it was overspray from the black paint.....nice touch.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 20:01:09 GMT 1, This is on Bedford/n.7th for those in Williamsburg area Seems like Trusto Corp might be getting a tad jealous? Even if its not the next piece its funny as hell imo Love these!
This is on Bedford/n.7th for those in Williamsburg area Seems like Trusto Corp might be getting a tad jealous? Even if its not the next piece its funny as hell imo Love these!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 20:02:37 GMT 1, I didn't realise that the chrysanthemum was singed, I just assumed it was overspray from the black paint.....nice touch. Was it signededit singed?
I didn't realise that the chrysanthemum was singed, I just assumed it was overspray from the black paint.....nice touch. Was it signededit singed?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Emile on Oct 15, 2013 20:05:01 GMT 1, The white sign is on Bedford/N.7th for those in the Williamsburg area
The yellow one is at 1st & E 4th
The white sign is on Bedford/N.7th for those in the Williamsburg area The yellow one is at 1st & E 4th
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 15, 2013 20:05:50 GMT 1, To me the towers seem a bit like sucking up to NYC. There are so many atrocities around the world all the time. NY's 9-11 wasn't that big in the grand scheme of things. Terrible, don't get me wrong but with all the hate Banksy has gotten in NY it seems like he is trying to suck up a bit. Cool effect with the flower. Bro in WHAT GRAND scheme of things do you live? Please tell. Four commercial jets hijacked within hours of each other, all crash and kill +/-3,000 people aside from changing the landscape of the entire city, with political & cultural effects rippling to all corners of the world.
I don't think that was a very well planned post -- well-intentioned, maybe, but poorly executed.
He's in New York City and he's giving props to something that New Yorkers experienced in a drastic, deep to the bone way. If you experienced it via CNN or BBC, that could explain your ability to posit anything about "sucking up to NYC".
Laughable man.
To me the towers seem a bit like sucking up to NYC. There are so many atrocities around the world all the time. NY's 9-11 wasn't that big in the grand scheme of things. Terrible, don't get me wrong but with all the hate Banksy has gotten in NY it seems like he is trying to suck up a bit. Cool effect with the flower. Bro in WHAT GRAND scheme of things do you live? Please tell. Four commercial jets hijacked within hours of each other, all crash and kill +/-3,000 people aside from changing the landscape of the entire city, with political & cultural effects rippling to all corners of the world. I don't think that was a very well planned post -- well-intentioned, maybe, but poorly executed. He's in New York City and he's giving props to something that New Yorkers experienced in a drastic, deep to the bone way. If you experienced it via CNN or BBC, that could explain your ability to posit anything about "sucking up to NYC". Laughable man.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by naughtyshorty on Oct 15, 2013 20:05:58 GMT 1, To me the towers seem a bit like sucking up to NYC. There are so many atrocities around the world all the time. NY's 9-11 wasn't that big in the grand scheme of things. Terrible, don't get me wrong but with all the hate Banksy has gotten in NY it seems like he is trying to suck up a bit.ย Cool effect with the flower.
Interested in what you would consider 'bigger' than 9-11's peacetime terrorism act killing thousands of innocent people?
To me the towers seem a bit like sucking up to NYC. There are so many atrocities around the world all the time. NY's 9-11 wasn't that big in the grand scheme of things. Terrible, don't get me wrong but with all the hate Banksy has gotten in NY it seems like he is trying to suck up a bit.ย Cool effect with the flower. Interested in what you would consider 'bigger' than 9-11's peacetime terrorism act killing thousands of innocent people?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by naughtyshorty on Oct 15, 2013 20:07:42 GMT 1, To me the towers seem a bit like sucking up to NYC. There are so many atrocities around the world all the time. NY's 9-11 wasn't that big in the grand scheme of things. Terrible, don't get me wrong but with all the hate Banksy has gotten in NY it seems like he is trying to suck up a bit.ย Cool effect with the flower.
Interested in what you would consider 'bigger' than 9-11's peacetime terrorism act killing thousands of innocent people?
To me the towers seem a bit like sucking up to NYC. There are so many atrocities around the world all the time. NY's 9-11 wasn't that big in the grand scheme of things. Terrible, don't get me wrong but with all the hate Banksy has gotten in NY it seems like he is trying to suck up a bit.ย Cool effect with the flower. Interested in what you would consider 'bigger' than 9-11's peacetime terrorism act killing thousands of innocent people?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by frithar on Oct 15, 2013 20:07:57 GMT 1, Those signs are probably his, imo the way I see it they're very much his style Nah, they are made by TrustoCorp. Similar humour though. www.trustocorp.com/ Who *is* Trustocorp? Are you sure they're not Banksy-related? So very very like his stuff.
Those signs are probably his, imo the way I see it they're very much his style Nah, they are made by TrustoCorp. Similar humour though. www.trustocorp.com/Who *is* Trustocorp? Are you sure they're not Banksy-related? So very very like his stuff.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by dreadnatty on Oct 15, 2013 20:08:33 GMT 1, To me the towers seem a bit like sucking up to NYC. There are so many atrocities around the world all the time. NY's 9-11 wasn't that big in the grand scheme of things. Terrible, don't get me wrong but with all the hate Banksy has gotten in NY it seems like he is trying to suck up a bit. Cool effect with the flower. Bro in WHAT GRAND scheme of things do you live? Please tell. Four commercial jets hijacked within hours of each other, all crash and kill +/-3,000 people aside from changing the landscape of the entire city, with political & cultural effects rippling to all corners of the world. I don't think that was a very well planned post -- well-intentioned, maybe, but poorly executed. He's in New York City and he's giving props to something that New Yorkers experienced in a drastic, deep to the bone way. If you experienced it via CNN or BBC, that could explain your ability to posit anything about "sucking up to NYC". Laughable man. ^^^^^^^^ That!!!!!
To me the towers seem a bit like sucking up to NYC. There are so many atrocities around the world all the time. NY's 9-11 wasn't that big in the grand scheme of things. Terrible, don't get me wrong but with all the hate Banksy has gotten in NY it seems like he is trying to suck up a bit. Cool effect with the flower. Bro in WHAT GRAND scheme of things do you live? Please tell. Four commercial jets hijacked within hours of each other, all crash and kill +/-3,000 people aside from changing the landscape of the entire city, with political & cultural effects rippling to all corners of the world. I don't think that was a very well planned post -- well-intentioned, maybe, but poorly executed. He's in New York City and he's giving props to something that New Yorkers experienced in a drastic, deep to the bone way. If you experienced it via CNN or BBC, that could explain your ability to posit anything about "sucking up to NYC". Laughable man. ^^^^^^^^ That!!!!!
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