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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 21:43:11 GMT 1, Not sure if anyone else picked up on the pun, but it's a wine cooler. Looks like wee to me, hes taking the piss and pouring right back down your throats!.
Not sure if anyone else picked up on the pun, but it's a wine cooler. Looks like wee to me, hes taking the piss and pouring right back down your throats!.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by tartarus on Oct 18, 2013 21:48:14 GMT 1, Looks like wee to me, hes taking the piss and pouring right back down your throats!. lol such a nice thought! It must be nasty being stuck in your head sometimes Mr!
Looks like wee to me, hes taking the piss and pouring right back down your throats!. lol such a nice thought! It must be nasty being stuck in your head sometimes Mr!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 21:50:35 GMT 1, Its a dark spot sometimes ta, although wotsit used to drink her own wee, actress,lives in France now,er....Sarah Miles thats it!.
Its a dark spot sometimes ta, although wotsit used to drink her own wee, actress,lives in France now,er....Sarah Miles thats it!.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by etched on Oct 18, 2013 21:50:47 GMT 1, *(either) feast or famine
*(either) feast or famine
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 21:52:33 GMT 1, Wheres Jaygo from here by the way?, NY i suppose?.
Wheres Jaygo from here by the way?, NY i suppose?.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 18, 2013 21:54:29 GMT 1, Really?! What was that - I missed BAD------->A$$
Really?! What was that - I missed BAD------->A$$
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by johnnyh on Oct 18, 2013 21:54:52 GMT 1, has banksy ever done joint pieces like this before ? Didn't he do one with Omar just the other day?
has banksy ever done joint pieces like this before ? Didn't he do one with Omar just the other day?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Damien on Oct 18, 2013 21:57:28 GMT 1, Really?! What was that - I missed oh yeah i always liked this piece, the detail on the left coppers face
Really?! What was that - I missed oh yeah i always liked this piece, the detail on the left coppers face
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by tartarus on Oct 18, 2013 21:58:04 GMT 1, Its a dark spot sometimes ta, although wotsit used to drink her own wee, actress,lives in France now,er....Sarah Miles thats it!. Madonna and Queen victoria too i think. Isnt it mainly unused vitamins and water? Still piss in my mind though!
Its a dark spot sometimes ta, although wotsit used to drink her own wee, actress,lives in France now,er....Sarah Miles thats it!. Madonna and Queen victoria too i think. Isnt it mainly unused vitamins and water? Still piss in my mind though!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by eschiff on Oct 18, 2013 22:00:02 GMT 1, love the os gemos collab, my favourite piece so far, love the idea of the individuals amongst the masses. While perhaps a tired theme, the execution and the emphasis of the 99% (and those who might agree with it being cops, those against it being 'rebels' or whomever the OS people represent) is really spot on.
When I saw this in the village voice i didn't really understand it, and the audio, even as tongue in cheek as it is, was brilliant.
love the os gemos collab, my favourite piece so far, love the idea of the individuals amongst the masses. While perhaps a tired theme, the execution and the emphasis of the 99% (and those who might agree with it being cops, those against it being 'rebels' or whomever the OS people represent) is really spot on.
When I saw this in the village voice i didn't really understand it, and the audio, even as tongue in cheek as it is, was brilliant.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 18, 2013 22:04:41 GMT 1, see the balloon girl shirt stencil?! pretty great
see the balloon girl shirt stencil?! pretty great
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by sufsean on Oct 18, 2013 22:04:53 GMT 1, Does anyone think those Jafar posters on Canal were legit? do you think they'll come up again?
Maybe a Sunday Dumbo like video involving Jafar?
Does anyone think those Jafar posters on Canal were legit? do you think they'll come up again?
Maybe a Sunday Dumbo like video involving Jafar?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by disdig1 on Oct 18, 2013 22:06:54 GMT 1, i love how the cops eyes on the banksy side you can't see their eyes at all but on the os gemeos side you can just make the single cops out and they seem to be looking around.
i love how the cops eyes on the banksy side you can't see their eyes at all but on the os gemeos side you can just make the single cops out and they seem to be looking around.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by johnnyh on Oct 18, 2013 22:07:17 GMT 1, Couple early one's think this is Inkie and Mobz and the other is for/ with this guy supposedly the only blue rat
think quite a lot of early ones
Couple early one's think this is Inkie and Mobz and the other is for/ with this guy supposedly the only blue rat think quite a lot of early ones
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by johnnyh on Oct 18, 2013 22:08:27 GMT 1,
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 18, 2013 22:10:39 GMT 1, i love how the cops eyes on the banksy side you can't see their eyes at all but on the os gemeos side you can just make the single cops out and they seem to be looking around. 100% !!
i love how the cops eyes on the banksy side you can't see their eyes at all but on the os gemeos side you can just make the single cops out and they seem to be looking around. 100% !!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Coach on Oct 18, 2013 22:18:48 GMT 1, see the balloon girl shirt stencil?!ย pretty great
Hadn't spotted that before. Very clever! Thanks.
see the balloon girl shirt stencil?!ย pretty great Hadn't spotted that before. Very clever! Thanks.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Coach on Oct 18, 2013 22:19:19 GMT 1, beautiful photo of NY ...
What was he up to then?
beautiful photo of NY ... What was he up to then?
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by kbfrombk on Oct 18, 2013 22:23:23 GMT 1, see the balloon girl shirt stencil?! pretty great Hadn't spotted that before. Very clever! Thanks. Sure cheers
see the balloon girl shirt stencil?! pretty great Hadn't spotted that before. Very clever! Thanks. Sure cheers
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by johnnyh on Oct 18, 2013 22:33:02 GMT 1, Be very interesting where these end up and if they are ever public again and together etc.
Big congrats to all those who have seen them in the flesh very special and your very lucky
Be very interesting where these end up and if they are ever public again and together etc.
Big congrats to all those who have seen them in the flesh very special and your very lucky
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by nrgball on Oct 18, 2013 22:40:39 GMT 1, He is certainly marketing the Banksy brand. It can't be helped. And don't kid yourself, there is always something for sale. Even if its simply the increased value of works already in the market, it will help his future sales. Don't get me wrong, I do love the spirit of this residency. I truly think this is more about legacy in the art world and making a mark on society. I guess the financial growth is a symptom of marketing the brand. This is equal parts cynical and illogical. He could instantly sell out anything he puts out if he wanted to. So there's no need to "market his brand." If he were motivated by money, he would be selling art. As it stands, when was the last time he released anything for sale. Also, think about how much this show is costing him. He has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars out of his own pocket doing this. Unless the grand finale is a dozen originals at $1 million+ each, you're way off base.ย
I'm not saying Banksy wouldn't sell out. I'm saying that popularity and media manipulation are part of his game. They always have been. He's a master at focusing attention on his work. In this case, he is exploiting social media and the actual media to its fullest right now. Over 200,000 Instagram followers in 18 days. My parents and acquaintances are texting me and have probably never uttered his name in all the years he's been an artist. He may be a household name in the UK but he's becoming one in the US and beyond right now. This show will be spoken about for years and how it changes the art game is yet to be seen. The Banksy brand has exploded due to this art show on more levels than I can articulate right now.
Let me be clear, I don't think Banksy is motivated by money. As I've previously stated, I think he is motivated by legacy and a genuine need to expose the world for what it is. This is done with wit, humor and clear aggression through his art. He is wicked intelligent and a master at media manipulation. Through these vehicles and with these tools Banksy grows his brand. As a result of this brand growth, his work increases in value. Give it 2 years and come back to me with the results in the auction houses. And Banksy makes a living off this too mate, though I agree with you. It's not his motivation.
He is certainly marketing the Banksy brand. It can't be helped. And don't kid yourself, there is always something for sale. Even if its simply the increased value of works already in the market, it will help his future sales. Don't get me wrong, I do love the spirit of this residency. I truly think this is more about legacy in the art world and making a mark on society. I guess the financial growth is a symptom of marketing the brand. This is equal parts cynical and illogical. He could instantly sell out anything he puts out if he wanted to. So there's no need to "market his brand." If he were motivated by money, he would be selling art. As it stands, when was the last time he released anything for sale. Also, think about how much this show is costing him. He has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars out of his own pocket doing this. Unless the grand finale is a dozen originals at $1 million+ each, you're way off base.ย I'm not saying Banksy wouldn't sell out. I'm saying that popularity and media manipulation are part of his game. They always have been. He's a master at focusing attention on his work. In this case, he is exploiting social media and the actual media to its fullest right now. Over 200,000 Instagram followers in 18 days. My parents and acquaintances are texting me and have probably never uttered his name in all the years he's been an artist. He may be a household name in the UK but he's becoming one in the US and beyond right now. This show will be spoken about for years and how it changes the art game is yet to be seen. The Banksy brand has exploded due to this art show on more levels than I can articulate right now. Let me be clear, I don't think Banksy is motivated by money. As I've previously stated, I think he is motivated by legacy and a genuine need to expose the world for what it is. This is done with wit, humor and clear aggression through his art. He is wicked intelligent and a master at media manipulation. Through these vehicles and with these tools Banksy grows his brand. As a result of this brand growth, his work increases in value. Give it 2 years and come back to me with the results in the auction houses. And Banksy makes a living off this too mate, though I agree with you. It's not his motivation.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Robert Stevens on Oct 18, 2013 22:43:58 GMT 1,
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Dr Plip on Oct 18, 2013 22:44:00 GMT 1, I love a Banksy cone.
It's like Martin What's-his-name has had a go at it.
I love a Banksy cone.
It's like Martin What's-his-name has had a go at it.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by polaris on Oct 18, 2013 22:45:19 GMT 1, I'm surprised the install has been so orderly so far
I'm surprised the install has been so orderly so far
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Dr Plip on Oct 18, 2013 22:47:37 GMT 1, I'm surprised the install has been so orderly so far It would only take an Omar with a paintball gun.....
I'm surprised the install has been so orderly so far It would only take an Omar with a paintball gun.....
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by graffuturism on Oct 18, 2013 22:48:17 GMT 1, My guess for where the canvases end up is possibly an artist trade each artist keeping one. Thats my first guess, second because it mentions the occupy movement maybe donated for some charity. Who knows great execution of location and showing.
My OPINION ill capitalize that is that this show as other stated is costing thousands of dollars daily to run atleast, leasing space isnt cheap and I doubt Pace would give up there space without some trade in value. Even if he did trade a canvas that could alone be thousands. Also someone mentioned that he would be giving prints and art to actors instead of paying them, Really? If he is doing that then the actual dollar amount this cost would be insane, what he could pay a guy for 200-300 a days work gets a 2K print. I dont know this is all hypothetical none of us know. But common sense tells me he is paying most everyone and the Bill is adding up to a rather nice large sum easily in the thousands. Lets say avg 5K a day being really really low on that figure is almost 100K already.
My guess for where the canvases end up is possibly an artist trade each artist keeping one. Thats my first guess, second because it mentions the occupy movement maybe donated for some charity. Who knows great execution of location and showing.
My OPINION ill capitalize that is that this show as other stated is costing thousands of dollars daily to run atleast, leasing space isnt cheap and I doubt Pace would give up there space without some trade in value. Even if he did trade a canvas that could alone be thousands. Also someone mentioned that he would be giving prints and art to actors instead of paying them, Really? If he is doing that then the actual dollar amount this cost would be insane, what he could pay a guy for 200-300 a days work gets a 2K print. I dont know this is all hypothetical none of us know. But common sense tells me he is paying most everyone and the Bill is adding up to a rather nice large sum easily in the thousands. Lets say avg 5K a day being really really low on that figure is almost 100K already.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Damien on Oct 18, 2013 22:51:23 GMT 1, My guess for where the canvases end up is possibly an artist trade each artist keeping one. Thats my first guess, secon because it mentions the occupy movement maybe donated for some charity. Who knows great execution of location and showing. My OPINION ill capitalize that is that this show as other stated is costing thousands of dollars daily to run atleast, leasing space isnt cheap and I doubt Pace would give up there space without some trade in value. Even if he did trade a canvas that could alone be thousands. Also someone mentioned that he would be giving prints and art to actors instead of paying them, Really? If he is doing that then the actual dollar amount this cost would be insane, what he could pay a guy for 200-300 a days work gets a 2K print. I dont know this is all hypothetical none of us know. But common sense tells me he is paying most everyone and the Bill is adding up to a rather nice large sume easily in the thousands. actors will just get paid through the pr company that work for banksy i would of thought, i doubt he would release a new print just to give it away
My guess for where the canvases end up is possibly an artist trade each artist keeping one. Thats my first guess, secon because it mentions the occupy movement maybe donated for some charity. Who knows great execution of location and showing. My OPINION ill capitalize that is that this show as other stated is costing thousands of dollars daily to run atleast, leasing space isnt cheap and I doubt Pace would give up there space without some trade in value. Even if he did trade a canvas that could alone be thousands. Also someone mentioned that he would be giving prints and art to actors instead of paying them, Really? If he is doing that then the actual dollar amount this cost would be insane, what he could pay a guy for 200-300 a days work gets a 2K print. I dont know this is all hypothetical none of us know. But common sense tells me he is paying most everyone and the Bill is adding up to a rather nice large sume easily in the thousands. actors will just get paid through the pr company that work for banksy i would of thought, i doubt he would release a new print just to give it away
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 18, 2013 22:51:23 GMT 1,
I see that COPE2 has deleted this from his instagram now....
What a surprise!
I see that COPE2 has deleted this from his instagram now.... What a surprise!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by graffuturism on Oct 18, 2013 22:55:05 GMT 1, My guess for where the canvases end up is possibly an artist trade each artist keeping one. Thats my first guess, secon because it mentions the occupy movement maybe donated for some charity. Who knows great execution of location and showing. My OPINION ill capitalize that is that this show as other stated is costing thousands of dollars daily to run atleast, leasing space isnt cheap and I doubt Pace would give up there space without some trade in value. Even if he did trade a canvas that could alone be thousands. Also someone mentioned that he would be giving prints and art to actors instead of paying them, Really? If he is doing that then the actual dollar amount this cost would be insane, what he could pay a guy for 200-300 a days work gets a 2K print. I dont know this is all hypothetical none of us know. But common sense tells me he is paying most everyone and the Bill is adding up to a rather nice large sume easily in the thousands. actors will just get paid through the pr company that work for banksy i would of thought, i doubt he would release a new print just to give it away
I was referring to this response earlier
I don't think Banksy is short on cash m You think they are payed actors? More like assistants payed with a canvas or print plus accommodation food and a great month of fun and games.
My guess for where the canvases end up is possibly an artist trade each artist keeping one. Thats my first guess, secon because it mentions the occupy movement maybe donated for some charity. Who knows great execution of location and showing. My OPINION ill capitalize that is that this show as other stated is costing thousands of dollars daily to run atleast, leasing space isnt cheap and I doubt Pace would give up there space without some trade in value. Even if he did trade a canvas that could alone be thousands. Also someone mentioned that he would be giving prints and art to actors instead of paying them, Really? If he is doing that then the actual dollar amount this cost would be insane, what he could pay a guy for 200-300 a days work gets a 2K print. I dont know this is all hypothetical none of us know. But common sense tells me he is paying most everyone and the Bill is adding up to a rather nice large sume easily in the thousands. actors will just get paid through the pr company that work for banksy i would of thought, i doubt he would release a new print just to give it away I was referring to this response earlier I don't think Banksy is short on cash m You think they are payed actors? More like assistants payed with a canvas or print plus accommodation food and a great month of fun and games.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Damien on Oct 18, 2013 22:57:38 GMT 1, actors will just get paid through the pr company that work for banksy i would of thought, i doubt he would release a new print just to give it away I was referring to this response earlier m You think they are payed actors? More like assistants payed with a canvas or print plus accommodation food and a great month of fun and games. oh right yeah, someone thought he might be an actor with a canvas then, thats funny that they think he would give them a 50k canvas insteaad of a 1k wages maybe lol
actors will just get paid through the pr company that work for banksy i would of thought, i doubt he would release a new print just to give it away I was referring to this response earlier m You think they are payed actors? More like assistants payed with a canvas or print plus accommodation food and a great month of fun and games. oh right yeah, someone thought he might be an actor with a canvas then, thats funny that they think he would give them a 50k canvas insteaad of a 1k wages maybe lol
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