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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Black Apple Art on Oct 7, 2013 8:49:30 GMT 1, Contrary to some of the comments I think this is moving along beautifully. re Banksys age and kids. Think it just means he's bigger and better and this is a big concept. also when has he ever let you down.........glitter Gorrila.....fair enough he has so far captured the worlds media, this thing is running in real time as the pieces develop and change, he has engaged the New York scene, his truck could be his first comment on the environment, last nights video show. A Muslim freedom fighter/terrorist shooting down Dumbo a consumer icon and proclaiming God is Good. so in a minute and a half you had religion, politics, war, consumerism, brands etcetc social media is buzzing. If he had put this vid on his site last week how many views? Now how many so it's all in play now. So we do not have all the answers yet but to be fair we have only looked at 6 pieces of a 31 piece show. Eg we are still at the entrance. There is still a lot to happen and see. The video I think was a bit of a game changer. Both in its style and content. its all been nice and playful upto this point. muslims shouting God is Good after shooting down an American icon at a New York show starts to unravel that concept even though there is some humour with it. So think things are building Upto some commentaries and statements. Roll on I say the show has just started
I can't help but think the "final act" will really be something else. Odds of an outdoor sale in all of this?
Contrary to some of the comments I think this is moving along beautifully. re Banksys age and kids. Think it just means he's bigger and better and this is a big concept. also when has he ever let you down.........glitter Gorrila.....fair enough he has so far captured the worlds media, this thing is running in real time as the pieces develop and change, he has engaged the New York scene, his truck could be his first comment on the environment, last nights video show. A Muslim freedom fighter/terrorist shooting down Dumbo a consumer icon and proclaiming God is Good. so in a minute and a half you had religion, politics, war, consumerism, brands etcetc social media is buzzing. If he had put this vid on his site last week how many views? Now how many so it's all in play now. So we do not have all the answers yet but to be fair we have only looked at 6 pieces of a 31 piece show. Eg we are still at the entrance. There is still a lot to happen and see. The video I think was a bit of a game changer. Both in its style and content. its all been nice and playful upto this point. muslims shouting God is Good after shooting down an American icon at a New York show starts to unravel that concept even though there is some humour with it. So think things are building Upto some commentaries and statements. Roll on I say the show has just started I can't help but think the "final act" will really be something else. Odds of an outdoor sale in all of this? |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 9:30:54 GMT 1, I can't help but think the "final act" will really be something else. Odds of an outdoor sale in all of this?
I can't help but think the "final act" will really be something else. Odds of an outdoor sale in all of this? Low to none. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Vandalog on Oct 7, 2013 9:36:09 GMT 1, I have to wholeheartedly disagree, I've felt that blogs particular coverage to almost entirely miss the point and glory in some pretty inadequate intellectualism for the sake of it.
Of course I'm not going to say that I think my own position is bs, but I will admit that I'm curious/fearful to look back on my posts in a few years once I've left the university environment, where "intellectualism for the sake of it" is almost unavoidable.
I have to wholeheartedly disagree, I've felt that blogs particular coverage to almost entirely miss the point and glory in some pretty inadequate intellectualism for the sake of it. Of course I'm not going to say that I think my own position is bs, but I will admit that I'm curious/fearful to look back on my posts in a few years once I've left the university environment, where "intellectualism for the sake of it" is almost unavoidable. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 9:46:22 GMT 1, I just read your blog on that. If its all the same, i reckon i would rather just sit back and see what rolls along, you make things too complicated fella IMO.
Cheers anyhow
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I just read your blog on that. If its all the same, i reckon i would rather just sit back and see what rolls along, you make things too complicated fella IMO.
Cheers anyhow
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 9:46:32 GMT 1, I have to wholeheartedly disagree, I've felt that blogs particular coverage to almost entirely miss the point and glory in some pretty inadequate intellectualism for the sake of it. Of course I'm not going to say that I think my own position is bs, but I will admit that I'm curious/fearful to look back on my posts in a few years once I've left the university environment, where "intellectualism for the sake of it" is almost unavoidable.
respect for the response.
on another note, I can't say seeing one blog hype another fills me with warm and fuzzy feelings either.
I have to wholeheartedly disagree, I've felt that blogs particular coverage to almost entirely miss the point and glory in some pretty inadequate intellectualism for the sake of it. Of course I'm not going to say that I think my own position is bs, but I will admit that I'm curious/fearful to look back on my posts in a few years once I've left the university environment, where "intellectualism for the sake of it" is almost unavoidable. respect for the response. on another note, I can't say seeing one blog hype another fills me with warm and fuzzy feelings either. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Quinnster on Oct 7, 2013 10:00:14 GMT 1, Some of you put Brian Badonde to shame.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by graffuturism on Oct 7, 2013 10:00:18 GMT 1, I dont see whats wrong with one blog advocating another especially when they cover mostly seperate views and work. I would not make a post about banksy on my blog, even if i post my opinion in here. My blog is more personal and takes on a more positive spin on artists that I enjoy. If I dont like an artist or a show I dont take the time to write about them. Im not a real critique and I dont feel the need to cover every show or artist. Vandalog takes a more journalistic view and that is why i shared it. I dont take this approach with my blog. For this reason I share other's, in this case vandalog.
On a side note what is wrong with analyzing the actual work in depth. People like to read about this sort of thing, others dont its not for everyone. Would you rather read 10 posts about how great something looks with out a different perspective. Its not going to change your perspective, yet its another view that maybe someone hadnt thought about.
I dont see whats wrong with one blog advocating another especially when they cover mostly seperate views and work. I would not make a post about banksy on my blog, even if i post my opinion in here. My blog is more personal and takes on a more positive spin on artists that I enjoy. If I dont like an artist or a show I dont take the time to write about them. Im not a real critique and I dont feel the need to cover every show or artist. Vandalog takes a more journalistic view and that is why i shared it. I dont take this approach with my blog. For this reason I share other's, in this case vandalog.
On a side note what is wrong with analyzing the actual work in depth. People like to read about this sort of thing, others dont its not for everyone. Would you rather read 10 posts about how great something looks with out a different perspective. Its not going to change your perspective, yet its another view that maybe someone hadnt thought about.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 10:09:11 GMT 1, Nothing wrong with analysing Graff.,i said it was too complicated for me,which it is, I would rather just enjoy the work itself initially and have an in depth think about it later. I still read all the posts though, mostly.
Nothing wrong with analysing Graff.,i said it was too complicated for me,which it is, I would rather just enjoy the work itself initially and have an in depth think about it later. I still read all the posts though, mostly.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Dr Plip on Oct 7, 2013 10:17:23 GMT 1, That's what I love about art. You can take it at face value, or look as deeply as you want. That and the pretty colours.
Aren't the audio commentaries on the Banksy site taking the mickey out of art analysis?
That's what I love about art. You can take it at face value, or look as deeply as you want. That and the pretty colours.
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by graffuturism on Oct 7, 2013 10:19:39 GMT 1, I understand Wizzy, Yet Ill refrain from creating any form of thought for a bit. If some one liners come into mind I will definetly share those though. Maybe more referencing Banksy as the equivalent to Picasso and Harring or whatever Icon of art without any real discussion enlightening the proclamation. Back to the status quo
I understand Wizzy, Yet Ill refrain from creating any form of thought for a bit. If some one liners come into mind I will definetly share those though. Maybe more referencing Banksy as the equivalent to Picasso and Harring or whatever Icon of art without any real discussion enlightening the proclamation. Back to the status quo
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 10:31:59 GMT 1, I understand Wizzy, Yet Ill refrain from creating any form of thought for a bit. If some one liners come into mind I will definetly share those though. Maybe more referencing Banksy as the equivalent to Picasso and Harring or whatever Icon of art without any real discussion enlightening the proclamation. Back to the status quo
you really don't like being challenged, it's not about defending a status quo, it's about freedom of expression. I enjoy reading your posts I do however feel you do like to revel in their extravagance rather than in the actual debate at hand.
I understand Wizzy, Yet Ill refrain from creating any form of thought for a bit. If some one liners come into mind I will definetly share those though. Maybe more referencing Banksy as the equivalent to Picasso and Harring or whatever Icon of art without any real discussion enlightening the proclamation. Back to the status quo you really don't like being challenged, it's not about defending a status quo, it's about freedom of expression. I enjoy reading your posts I do however feel you do like to revel in their extravagance rather than in the actual debate at hand. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by urbanhangings on Oct 7, 2013 10:32:52 GMT 1, Too much chin stroking going on here it's the type of artworld commentary banksy would hate take it for what it is a fun ride for a month so far it's as big thumbs up from me!
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Too much chin stroking going on here it's the type of artworld commentary banksy would hate take it for what it is a fun ride for a month so far it's as big thumbs up from me!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 11:29:19 GMT 1, I understand Wizzy, Yet Ill refrain from creating any form of thought for a bit. If some one liners come into mind I will definetly share those though. Maybe more referencing Banksy as the equivalent to Picasso and Harring or whatever Icon of art without any real discussion enlightening the proclamation. Back to the status quo
We are what we are and im not apologising for what i am,i dont do in depth posts, i have the attention span of a gnat, i just like looking at the art.
Have a good day.
David
I understand Wizzy, Yet Ill refrain from creating any form of thought for a bit. If some one liners come into mind I will definetly share those though. Maybe more referencing Banksy as the equivalent to Picasso and Harring or whatever Icon of art without any real discussion enlightening the proclamation. Back to the status quo Ha, ok Graff., You do what you do fella, i love your works and i enjoy reading your posts, really i do, just as i enjoy reading other incisive and informative posts from others on here, along with the one liners be they witty or silly. We are what we are and im not apologising for what i am,i dont do in depth posts, i have the attention span of a gnat, i just like looking at the art. Have a good day. David |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 11:32:13 GMT 1, Love the new image that people are missing due to a gay elephant debate!!!! What's fragile a Instagram name? Gay as come here I put my dick in your ass naughtyshorty or gay as alive ?
The latest press articles published in Kenya following terror attack at shopping mall, which say that money from poaching goes to Al-Shabaab in Somalia, could be one of many messages behind Bnaksy's video (but I really doubt)
Anyway, me saying, the gay elephant talk was right on target !!! Aaaaal Akbar !!
Love the new image that people are missing due to a gay elephant debate!!!! What's fragile a Instagram name? Gay as come here I put my dick in your ass naughtyshorty or gay as alive ? Following Banksy lastest video, I wonder would still think our elephant debate was gay and out of content ? The latest press articles published in Kenya following terror attack at shopping mall, which say that money from poaching goes to Al-Shabaab in Somalia, could be one of many messages behind Bnaksy's video (but I really doubt) Anyway, me saying, the gay elephant talk was right on target !!! Aaaaal Akbar !! |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by dotdot on Oct 7, 2013 11:49:45 GMT 1, I understand Wizzy, Yet Ill refrain from creating any form of thought for a bit. If some one liners come into mind I will definetly share those though. Maybe more referencing Banksy as the equivalent to Picasso and Harring or whatever Icon of art without any real discussion enlightening the proclamation. Back to the status quo Ha, ok Graff., You do what you do fella, i love your works and i enjoy reading your posts, really i do, just as i enjoy reading other incisive and informative posts from others on here, along with the one liners be they witty or silly. We are what we are and im not apologising for what i am,i dont do in depth posts, i have the attention span of a gnat, i just like looking at the art. Have a good day. David
we all agree one thing here.
NEVER APOLOGISE to anyone for what you think of what you SEE  some keep it simple .. some don't
each to their own.
free speech , up to a point - the point at which people lose track and prejudice and misinfo creep in.
where's that image mantis did a few years ago.. free speech (it said it all really).
I understand Wizzy, Yet Ill refrain from creating any form of thought for a bit. If some one liners come into mind I will definetly share those though. Maybe more referencing Banksy as the equivalent to Picasso and Harring or whatever Icon of art without any real discussion enlightening the proclamation. Back to the status quo Ha, ok Graff., You do what you do fella, i love your works and i enjoy reading your posts, really i do, just as i enjoy reading other incisive and informative posts from others on here, along with the one liners be they witty or silly. We are what we are and im not apologising for what i am,i dont do in depth posts, i have the attention span of a gnat, i just like looking at the art. Have a good day. David we all agree one thing here. NEVER APOLOGISE to anyone for what you think of what you SEE some keep it simple .. some don't each to their own. free speech , up to a point - the point at which people lose track and prejudice and misinfo creep in. where's that image mantis did a few years ago.. free speech (it said it all really). |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 12:09:46 GMT 1, I really do not understand why anyone needs a blog to increase their understanding or enjoyment of art.
I do not read the commentaries. I do enjoy and appreciate certain blogs/sites sharing work I would not have seen or known about otherwise, but that is the extent of their use for me personally.
LOL and maybe we need a 2 paragraph rule for posts I say if you want to write a dissertation, blog it.
I really do not understand why anyone needs a blog to increase their understanding or enjoyment of art. I do not read the commentaries. I do enjoy and appreciate certain blogs/sites sharing work I would not have seen or known about otherwise, but that is the extent of their use for me personally. LOL and maybe we need a 2 paragraph rule for posts I say if you want to write a dissertation, blog it. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Pistol on Oct 7, 2013 12:18:26 GMT 1, It would be great to know that all the posts on here are making Banksy smile as much as his NY work is making me smile!
Sorry but no deeper thoughts than that from me!
It would be great to know that all the posts on here are making Banksy smile as much as his NY work is making me smile!
Sorry but no deeper thoughts than that from me!
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 12:31:12 GMT 1, Back to the matter at hand: I'm looking forward to today's reveal, I was a bit disappointed his video didn't have a hidden message pointing to an accompanying street piece yesterday.
This is from my trek around DUMBO, and do you know what is not in this picture? A Banksy!
There is a ton of great art tucked here and there all throughout DUMBO, but as this is a Banksy thread I won't clog it up with other work.
Back to the matter at hand: I'm looking forward to today's reveal, I was a bit disappointed his video didn't have a hidden message pointing to an accompanying street piece yesterday. This is from my trek around DUMBO, and do you know what is not in this picture? A Banksy! There is a ton of great art tucked here and there all throughout DUMBO, but as this is a Banksy thread I won't clog it up with other work. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by naughtyshorty on Oct 7, 2013 12:48:14 GMT 1, Gay as come here I put my dick in your ass naughtyshorty or gay as alive ? Following Banksy lastest video, I wonder would still think our elephant debate was gay and out of content ? The latest press articles published in Kenya following terror attack at shopping mall, which say that money from poaching goes to Al-Shabaab in Somalia, could be one of many messages behind Bnaksy's video (but I really doubt) Anyway, me saying, the gay elephant talk was right on target !!! Aaaaal Akbar !!
I stand v corrected!
And btw, it was 'gay' as in the yoof of today 'that's gay man' way :-)
Gay as come here I put my dick in your ass naughtyshorty or gay as alive ? Following Banksy lastest video, I wonder would still think our elephant debate was gay and out of content ? The latest press articles published in Kenya following terror attack at shopping mall, which say that money from poaching goes to Al-Shabaab in Somalia, could be one of many messages behind Bnaksy's video (but I really doubt) Anyway, me saying, the gay elephant talk was right on target !!! Aaaaal Akbar !! I stand v corrected! And btw, it was 'gay' as in the yoof of today 'that's gay man' way :-) |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by 11 on Oct 7, 2013 12:50:26 GMT 1, I can't help but think the "final act" will really be something else. Odds of an outdoor sale in all of this? Low to none.
Might get a great set of NYC postcards out of it - nothing more
I can't help but think the "final act" will really be something else. Odds of an outdoor sale in all of this? Low to none. Might get a great set of NYC postcards out of it - nothing more |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by naughtyshorty on Oct 7, 2013 12:51:22 GMT 1, Here's a nice thought - imagine how New Yorkers are opening their eyes to the art on the streets now, all looking for the next banksy. This will really do wonders for the scene there
Here's a nice thought - imagine how New Yorkers are opening their eyes to the art on the streets now, all looking for the next banksy. This will really do wonders for the scene there
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 12:55:40 GMT 1, It would be great to know that all the posts on here are making Banksy smile as much as his NY work is making me smile! Sorry but no deeper thoughts than that from me!
It would be great to know that all the posts on here are making Banksy smile as much as his NY work is making me smile! Sorry but no deeper thoughts than that from me! Grrrrrr! |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Rubys on Oct 7, 2013 13:40:26 GMT 1, Banksy is supposedly turning 40 this year
Banksy is supposedly turning 40 this year Pretty sure he's 37/38 this year |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Ruggs on Oct 7, 2013 13:40:51 GMT 1, Back to the matter at hand: I'm looking forward to today's reveal, I was a bit disappointed his video didn't have a hidden message pointing to an accompanying street piece yesterday. This is from my trek around DUMBO, and do you know what is not in this picture? A Banksy! There is a ton of great art tucked here and there all throughout DUMBO, but as this is a Banksy thread I won't clog it up with other work.
Back to the matter at hand: I'm looking forward to today's reveal, I was a bit disappointed his video didn't have a hidden message pointing to an accompanying street piece yesterday. This is from my trek around DUMBO, and do you know what is not in this picture? A Banksy! There is a ton of great art tucked here and there all throughout DUMBO, but as this is a Banksy thread I won't clog it up with other work. ... and I thought the roads in this country were shite! |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 14:03:39 GMT 1, Back to the matter at hand: I'm looking forward to today's reveal, I was a bit disappointed his video didn't have a hidden message pointing to an accompanying street piece yesterday. This is from my trek around DUMBO, and do you know what is not in this picture? A Banksy! There is a ton of great art tucked here and there all throughout DUMBO, but as this is a Banksy thread I won't clog it up with other work.
ps. Im with Ruggs on the condition of that road surface!.
Also whats that say? 'No Standing Anytime'? whats that all about? you gotta move around even while you read the sign?.
Back to the matter at hand: I'm looking forward to today's reveal, I was a bit disappointed his video didn't have a hidden message pointing to an accompanying street piece yesterday. This is from my trek around DUMBO, and do you know what is not in this picture? A Banksy! There is a ton of great art tucked here and there all throughout DUMBO, but as this is a Banksy thread I won't clog it up with other work. Show us the Art!, start another thread for it if you want to fella, a DUMBO thread. ps. Im with Ruggs on the condition of that road surface!. Also whats that say? 'No Standing Anytime'? whats that all about? you gotta move around even while you read the sign?. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by elwheel on Oct 7, 2013 14:11:51 GMT 1, On a side not these pieces seem to be all over the place in regards to concept kind of like an artist not having any real dialogue amongst the pieces. Its still early so maybe there will be a string of concept that ties everything into each other, right now this mis match group of work seems a bit all over the place from the perspective of the intial week so far. If I where walking through any exhibit even one being in the outdoors seeing how the pieces all work together is tough. If he does consider this a show outdoors it could be critiques from the same perspective as a regular exhibition, meaning if all these pieces where in one room would they all work together or tell a story.
I'm beginning to go back to my original assessment of the title of the show. I think OUT isn't the location, as in outside, it's the ideas that he wants to get out of his head. Stuff that's been building up in his noggin but which doesn't really fit into any particular theme, execution or narrative. I imagine we will see a lot of styles, targets and mediums. Anyway, I just like it. It's OK to just like it and not analyze it. Get it outta ye.
On a side not these pieces seem to be all over the place in regards to concept kind of like an artist not having any real dialogue amongst the pieces. Its still early so maybe there will be a string of concept that ties everything into each other, right now this mis match group of work seems a bit all over the place from the perspective of the intial week so far. If I where walking through any exhibit even one being in the outdoors seeing how the pieces all work together is tough. If he does consider this a show outdoors it could be critiques from the same perspective as a regular exhibition, meaning if all these pieces where in one room would they all work together or tell a story. I'm beginning to go back to my original assessment of the title of the show. I think OUT isn't the location, as in outside, it's the ideas that he wants to get out of his head. Stuff that's been building up in his noggin but which doesn't really fit into any particular theme, execution or narrative. I imagine we will see a lot of styles, targets and mediums. Anyway, I just like it. It's OK to just like it and not analyze it. Get it outta ye. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Hairbland on Oct 7, 2013 15:03:10 GMT 1, Here's a nice thought - imagine how New Yorkers are opening their eyes to the art on the streets now, all looking for the next banksy. This will really do wonders for the scene there
As to New Yorkers opening their eyes to the art on the streets...well that's just comical. NYC's history in graffiti, past and present, speaks for itself. We didn't need Banksy for this.
Here's a nice thought - imagine how New Yorkers are opening their eyes to the art on the streets now, all looking for the next banksy. This will really do wonders for the scene there The critical dialogue and assorted hypotheses here are a wonderful part of art, whether spot on or completely off. I work in music...people trying to guess the meaning literal or otherwise regarding lyrics is always amusing. As to New Yorkers opening their eyes to the art on the streets...well that's just comical. NYC's history in graffiti, past and present, speaks for itself. We didn't need Banksy for this. |
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Banksy - Better Out Than In - New York - BOTI, by Rubys on Oct 7, 2013 15:04:49 GMT 1, Wow streetart. That's the worst road I've ever seen
Wow streetart. That's the worst road I've ever seen
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