sufsean
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by sufsean on Nov 1, 2013 15:24:19 GMT 1, The example is someone is selling a signed Banksy NOLA print that is stamped but not numbered.
They have an email from Pest saying since it's a gift print they can't authenticate it because a gift print shouldn't be sold.
I don't know how often there are fakes going around, but wanted to get the opinion of the board.
Is this a stay away? or a "who cares--go for it"?
Thanks in advance for your opinions/advice.
The example is someone is selling a signed Banksy NOLA print that is stamped but not numbered.
They have an email from Pest saying since it's a gift print they can't authenticate it because a gift print shouldn't be sold.
I don't know how often there are fakes going around, but wanted to get the opinion of the board.
Is this a stay away? or a "who cares--go for it"?
Thanks in advance for your opinions/advice.
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by street4RT on Nov 1, 2013 15:30:57 GMT 1, stay away ......
without authentication ..... it's not worth the risk....
stay away ......
without authentication ..... it's not worth the risk....
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sufsean
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by sufsean on Nov 1, 2013 15:32:58 GMT 1, Would the email from Pest serve as anything substantial? or would that fall under anyone can fake an email?
Would the email from Pest serve as anything substantial? or would that fall under anyone can fake an email?
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maxf
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by maxf on Nov 1, 2013 15:36:07 GMT 1, Anybody can fake an email! If you have the original email then maybe it would be a bit harder to fake, but I don't know.
Also, the email doesn't really say that much about that specific print does it?
You could buy it and get lucky but I'd want to know who was the gift recipient and get a proper paper trail from them and verify it all. That would take some of the risk away but would take a lot of legwork to do!
Anybody can fake an email! If you have the original email then maybe it would be a bit harder to fake, but I don't know.
Also, the email doesn't really say that much about that specific print does it?
You could buy it and get lucky but I'd want to know who was the gift recipient and get a proper paper trail from them and verify it all. That would take some of the risk away but would take a lot of legwork to do!
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Quinnster
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Quinnster on Nov 1, 2013 15:36:25 GMT 1, I depends on the price
Maybe you email pest control and ask them direct
It's always going to be hard to resell and I'm sure the seller will want big money.
I depends on the price
Maybe you email pest control and ask them direct
It's always going to be hard to resell and I'm sure the seller will want big money.
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by craigf on Nov 1, 2013 15:45:19 GMT 1, Paper trail and price are key plus then understanding it won't be that easy to sell on. If you go in with eyes open and the price is right its fine
Paper trail and price are key plus then understanding it won't be that easy to sell on. If you go in with eyes open and the price is right its fine
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sufsean
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by sufsean on Nov 1, 2013 16:09:21 GMT 1, Thanks for all the great info everyone!!
Thanks for all the great info everyone!!
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sierrahotel
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by sierrahotel on Nov 1, 2013 17:42:15 GMT 1, if you're buying for pleasure alone - it's probably the cheapest way to get a genuine banksy print - but like the others say, re-selling will be very very hard.
if you're buying for pleasure alone - it's probably the cheapest way to get a genuine banksy print - but like the others say, re-selling will be very very hard.
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veronesepk
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by veronesepk on Nov 1, 2013 18:26:49 GMT 1, What percentage of a regular print do gift prints fetch?
What percentage of a regular print do gift prints fetch?
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iamzero
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by iamzero on Nov 1, 2013 18:46:07 GMT 1, I've been watching that one on eBay, staying away but good luck dude.
I've been watching that one on eBay, staying away but good luck dude.
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Quinnster
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Quinnster on Nov 1, 2013 19:06:14 GMT 1, What percentage of a regular print do gift prints fetch?
Iv seen an unsigned unnumbered Nola for ยฃ1.5k sold eBay auction price
You would be better off with an unsigned edition print with COA.
What percentage of a regular print do gift prints fetch? Iv seen an unsigned unnumbered Nola for ยฃ1.5k sold eBay auction price You would be better off with an unsigned edition print with COA.
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Happy Shopper on Nov 1, 2013 19:29:27 GMT 1, I was thinking of buying a nice gift print a while ago, but Pest Control wanted original owners details and photos, and then could only say that it had previously been denied a COA... and when I asked why it was refused they didn't reply... so I was stuck!
The trouble is that any future buyer would probably want to go through that same process, which is a pain in the arse and not a good idea overall.
I was thinking of buying a nice gift print a while ago, but Pest Control wanted original owners details and photos, and then could only say that it had previously been denied a COA... and when I asked why it was refused they didn't reply... so I was stuck!
The trouble is that any future buyer would probably want to go through that same process, which is a pain in the arse and not a good idea overall.
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Deleted on Nov 1, 2013 20:41:23 GMT 1, Why would you buy a 'gift print' ? If you like the image just print it yourself or buy a WCP.. In that case you know for sure it is not a real Banksy but you also don't have to spend all your savings
Why would you buy a 'gift print' ? If you like the image just print it yourself or buy a WCP.. In that case you know for sure it is not a real Banksy but you also don't have to spend all your savings
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Quinnster
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Quinnster on Nov 1, 2013 20:48:53 GMT 1, Why would you buy a 'gift print' ? If you like the image just print it yourself or buy a WCP.. In that case you know for sure it is not a real Banksy but you also don't have to spend all your savings
Nooooooooooo don't buy a WCP
Buy an unsigned or even a poster or frame up a pack of crude oil postcards or some stickers :-)
Why would you buy a 'gift print' ? If you like the image just print it yourself or buy a WCP.. In that case you know for sure it is not a real Banksy but you also don't have to spend all your savings Nooooooooooo don't buy a WCP Buy an unsigned or even a poster or frame up a pack of crude oil postcards or some stickers :-)
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Deleted on Nov 1, 2013 20:53:15 GMT 1, Why would you buy a 'gift print' ? If you like the image just print it yourself or buy a WCP.. In that case you know for sure it is not a real Banksy but you also don't have to spend all your savings Nooooooooooo don't buy a WCP Buy an unsigned or even a poster or frame up a pack of crude oil postcards or some stickers :-) I agree But i still think it is better then a 'gift print' without COA..
Why would you buy a 'gift print' ? If you like the image just print it yourself or buy a WCP.. In that case you know for sure it is not a real Banksy but you also don't have to spend all your savings Nooooooooooo don't buy a WCP Buy an unsigned or even a poster or frame up a pack of crude oil postcards or some stickers :-) I agree But i still think it is better then a 'gift print' without COA..
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Quinnster
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Quinnster on Nov 1, 2013 21:09:59 GMT 1, Nooooooooooo don't buy a WCP Buy an unsigned or even a poster or frame up a pack of crude oil postcards or some stickers :-) I agree ย But i still think it is better then a 'gift print' without COA..
I would buy a gift print if it was cheap and an image I loved and would fever want to sell. It would have to be very very cheap though.
Nooooooooooo don't buy a WCP Buy an unsigned or even a poster or frame up a pack of crude oil postcards or some stickers :-) I agree ย But i still think it is better then a 'gift print' without COA.. I would buy a gift print if it was cheap and an image I loved and would fever want to sell. It would have to be very very cheap though.
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Deleted on Nov 1, 2013 21:13:05 GMT 1, Yes, but most of the 'gift prints' with the PEST email are not cheap... 500 plus... And that is just way too much for a fake print... rather know it's fake and pay fake price.... Well rather buy real of course
Yes, but most of the 'gift prints' with the PEST email are not cheap... 500 plus... And that is just way too much for a fake print... rather know it's fake and pay fake price.... Well rather buy real of course
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Quinnster
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Quinnster on Nov 2, 2013 8:39:55 GMT 1, Yes, but most of the 'gift prints' with the PEST email are not cheap... 500 plus... And that is just way too much for a fake print... rather know it's fake and pay fake price.... Well rather buy real of course
So the answer is don't buy one they are not worth the money :-)
Yes, but most of the 'gift prints' with the PEST email are not cheap... 500 plus... And that is just way too much for a fake print... rather know it's fake and pay fake price.... Well rather buy real of course So the answer is don't buy one they are not worth the money :-)
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Forbidden Love on Nov 2, 2013 13:49:59 GMT 1, Yes, but most of the 'gift prints' with the PEST email are not cheap... 500 plus... And that is just way too much for a fake print... rather know it's fake and pay fake price.... Well rather buy real of course So the answer is don't buy one they are not worth the money :-) json...how is it fake if its come from pow?
and id say their is no real answer.
somone also mentioned it would be very very hard to sell. but you could just list it on ebay like this guy has, doesnt seem to be that hard by judging the amount of bids it has.
Yes, but most of the 'gift prints' with the PEST email are not cheap... 500 plus... And that is just way too much for a fake print... rather know it's fake and pay fake price.... Well rather buy real of course So the answer is don't buy one they are not worth the money :-) json...how is it fake if its come from pow? and id say their is no real answer. somone also mentioned it would be very very hard to sell. but you could just list it on ebay like this guy has, doesnt seem to be that hard by judging the amount of bids it has.
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Deleted on Nov 2, 2013 14:25:21 GMT 1, So the answer is don't buy one they are not worth the money :-) json...how is it fake if its come from pow? and id say their is no real answer. somone also mentioned it would be very very hard to sell. but you could just list it on ebay like this guy has, doesnt seem to be that hard by judging the amount of bids it has. Gift prints don't come with COA's. So there is no way knowing that the gift print is the real deal. Most people selling a gift print sell them with an email from POW/PEST stating that it is a real gift print but that they can not give out COA's on these prints. An email is easily faked... I sincerely doubt that POW/PEST will 'authenticate' a gift print and then telling you it is a real print through email
So the answer is don't buy one they are not worth the money :-) json...how is it fake if its come from pow? and id say their is no real answer. somone also mentioned it would be very very hard to sell. but you could just list it on ebay like this guy has, doesnt seem to be that hard by judging the amount of bids it has. Gift prints don't come with COA's. So there is no way knowing that the gift print is the real deal. Most people selling a gift print sell them with an email from POW/PEST stating that it is a real gift print but that they can not give out COA's on these prints. An email is easily faked... I sincerely doubt that POW/PEST will 'authenticate' a gift print and then telling you it is a real print through email
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by chads007 on Nov 2, 2013 14:28:22 GMT 1, As said, anyone can doctor an email
If you are sure it's genuine & intend to keep it rather than profiteer like people do, buy it if the price is right. Otherwise keep arms length AWAY
As said, anyone can doctor an email
If you are sure it's genuine & intend to keep it rather than profiteer like people do, buy it if the price is right. Otherwise keep arms length AWAY
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Sweetcorn on Nov 2, 2013 14:54:40 GMT 1, json...how is it fake if its come from pow? and id say their is no real answer. somone also mentioned it would be very very hard to sell. but you could just list it on ebay like this guy has, doesnt seem to be that hard by judging the amount of bids it has. Gift prints don't come with COA's. So there is no way knowing that the gift print is the real deal. Most people selling a gift print sell them with an email from POW/PEST stating that it is a real gift print but that they can not give out COA's on these prints. An email is easily faked... I sincerely doubt that POW/PEST will 'authenticate' a gift print and then telling you it is a real print through email If I get given a gift print off Banksy I would get a coa for it if I applied If I bought a gift print given to someone else without a coa I will never get it authenticated
Gifted prints with coa's are out there.
json...how is it fake if its come from pow? and id say their is no real answer. somone also mentioned it would be very very hard to sell. but you could just list it on ebay like this guy has, doesnt seem to be that hard by judging the amount of bids it has. Gift prints don't come with COA's. So there is no way knowing that the gift print is the real deal. Most people selling a gift print sell them with an email from POW/PEST stating that it is a real gift print but that they can not give out COA's on these prints. An email is easily faked... I sincerely doubt that POW/PEST will 'authenticate' a gift print and then telling you it is a real print through email If I get given a gift print off Banksy I would get a coa for it if I applied If I bought a gift print given to someone else without a coa I will never get it authenticated Gifted prints with coa's are out there.
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Deleted on Nov 2, 2013 15:00:02 GMT 1, Gift prints don't come with COA's. So there is no way knowing that the gift print is the real deal. Most people selling a gift print sell them with an email from POW/PEST stating that it is a real gift print but that they can not give out COA's on these prints. An email is easily faked... I sincerely doubt that POW/PEST will 'authenticate' a gift print and then telling you it is a real print through email If I get given a gift print off Banksy I would get a coa for it if I applied If I bought a gift print given to someone else without a coa I will never get it authenticated Gifted prints with coa's are out there. Are there?? I thought PEST did not give out COA's on gift prints because why would you need a COA unless you would like to have the option of selling the print. "And giftprints are not to be sold' (Pestcontroloffice)
Gift prints don't come with COA's. So there is no way knowing that the gift print is the real deal. Most people selling a gift print sell them with an email from POW/PEST stating that it is a real gift print but that they can not give out COA's on these prints. An email is easily faked... I sincerely doubt that POW/PEST will 'authenticate' a gift print and then telling you it is a real print through email If I get given a gift print off Banksy I would get a coa for it if I applied If I bought a gift print given to someone else without a coa I will never get it authenticated Gifted prints with coa's are out there. Are there?? I thought PEST did not give out COA's on gift prints because why would you need a COA unless you would like to have the option of selling the print. "And giftprints are not to be sold' (Pestcontroloffice)
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Deleted on Nov 2, 2013 15:02:46 GMT 1, As said, anyone can doctor an email If you are sure it's genuine & intend to keep it rather than profiteer like people do, buy it if the price is right. Otherwise keep arms length AWAY If a Banksy print comes with full COA you can buy it when the price is right (gift print or any other print). But most 'gift prints' i come across are without COA's ( and with the emails though) and i would steer well away on those prints!
As said, anyone can doctor an email If you are sure it's genuine & intend to keep it rather than profiteer like people do, buy it if the price is right. Otherwise keep arms length AWAY If a Banksy print comes with full COA you can buy it when the price is right (gift print or any other print). But most 'gift prints' i come across are without COA's ( and with the emails though) and i would steer well away on those prints!
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by mouser on Nov 2, 2013 15:10:26 GMT 1, Coas are available for a gift print if applied for by the original owner. They will be able to verify details etc that are required for pest control approval. Once a gift has passed out of the original owners hands, its very much hit and miss, even with pow / pc email. I have one which i have framed and am 100% happy is legit, been on the wall for about 5 years now. Came from a very trustworthy source, confirmed the email with pow and got a similar answer to the second owner, story checks out, print checks out, rare signed banksy on my wall for less than a grand. then again, unless it was from a very reliable source i would not go near one these days, too risky with the likes of WCP etc....
Coas are available for a gift print if applied for by the original owner. They will be able to verify details etc that are required for pest control approval. Once a gift has passed out of the original owners hands, its very much hit and miss, even with pow / pc email. I have one which i have framed and am 100% happy is legit, been on the wall for about 5 years now. Came from a very trustworthy source, confirmed the email with pow and got a similar answer to the second owner, story checks out, print checks out, rare signed banksy on my wall for less than a grand. then again, unless it was from a very reliable source i would not go near one these days, too risky with the likes of WCP etc....
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Deleted on Nov 2, 2013 21:58:02 GMT 1, Life is far too short to worry about such things i have decided. If you like it then buy it, your dosh / your choice. Reliable and trustworthy sellers / sources are everything i reckon where these gifts are concerned.
Life is far too short to worry about such things i have decided. If you like it then buy it, your dosh / your choice. Reliable and trustworthy sellers / sources are everything i reckon where these gifts are concerned.
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londonboy
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by londonboy on Nov 3, 2013 6:25:32 GMT 1, Life is far too short to worry about such things i have decided. If you like it then buy it, your dosh / your choice. Reliable and trustworthy sellers / sources are everything i reckon where these gifts are concerned.
Word!!
I bought such a gift print almost 3 years ago And I don't give a fcuk.. It still is my pride and joy..
I know I ll never be able to buy a proper Banksy signed print but at the end of the day I own a Banksy signed print It s not for sale And beauty is in the eye of the cider holder.. Coa?? To me in that case it means certificate of admiration ..
And I can admire it everyday..
Life is far too short to worry about such things i have decided. If you like it then buy it, your dosh / your choice. Reliable and trustworthy sellers / sources are everything i reckon where these gifts are concerned. Word!! I bought such a gift print almost 3 years ago And I don't give a fcuk.. It still is my pride and joy.. I know I ll never be able to buy a proper Banksy signed print but at the end of the day I own a Banksy signed print It s not for sale And beauty is in the eye of the cider holder.. Coa?? To me in that case it means certificate of admiration .. And I can admire it everyday..
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Goooogle Male on Nov 3, 2013 11:41:44 GMT 1, The NOLA gift print went for ยฃ6.7k !!
The NOLA gift print went for ยฃ6.7k !!
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Quinnster
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by Quinnster on Nov 3, 2013 19:43:09 GMT 1, The NOLA gift print went for ยฃ6.7k !!
Mugged.
The NOLA gift print went for ยฃ6.7k !! Mugged.
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londonboy
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Opinions on buying gift prints of Banksy, by londonboy on Nov 3, 2013 20:17:35 GMT 1, Not really..
It s all about what you re willing to pay for something you like..
24k for Kaws is what I m calling being mugged
Not really..
It s all about what you re willing to pay for something you like..
24k for Kaws is what I m calling being mugged
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