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Di-Faced Tenner, by Passion Art on Nov 4, 2013 21:01:29 GMT 1, Is there a thread anywhere with details on how to tell if one is real?
Is there a thread anywhere with details on how to tell if one is real?
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Di-Faced Tenner, by .dappy on Nov 4, 2013 21:39:05 GMT 1,
Essentially you can't,especially with the progress of colour copying. People talk about the different words and lettering and the 'i', but all of these can be copied.
No real way of telling, unless you have an original receipt from back in the day ... or a LAZ letterhead prov. thanking you and 'here is a Di-faced tenner for your waiting/troubles' 
A few threads here: urbanartassociation.com/board/140/di-face-case
Essentially you can't,especially with the progress of colour copying. People talk about the different words and lettering and the 'i', but all of these can be copied. No real way of telling, unless you have an original receipt from back in the day ... or a LAZ letterhead prov. thanking you and 'here is a Di-faced tenner for your waiting/troubles' A few threads here: urbanartassociation.com/board/140/di-face-case |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 22:29:58 GMT 1, Essentially you can't,especially with the progress of colour copying. People talk about the different words and lettering and the 'i', but all of these can be copied. No real way of telling, unless you have an original receipt from back in the day ... or a LAZ letterhead prov. thanking you and 'here is a Di-faced tenner for your waiting/troubles' A few threads here: urbanartassociation.com/board/140/di-face-case
... If you have a microscope and a Banksy COA with a torn note, then you can spot a fake in seconds.
I know, cos I got burned on ebay for a hundred quid and I compared the two.
Essentially you can't,especially with the progress of colour copying. People talk about the different words and lettering and the 'i', but all of these can be copied. No real way of telling, unless you have an original receipt from back in the day ... or a LAZ letterhead prov. thanking you and 'here is a Di-faced tenner for your waiting/troubles' A few threads here: urbanartassociation.com/board/140/di-face-caseThere's no way I can say this without coming across as a total nerd, but ... ... If you have a microscope and a Banksy COA with a torn note, then you can spot a fake in seconds. I know, cos I got burned on ebay for a hundred quid and I compared the two. |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by fattyramone on Nov 4, 2013 22:39:02 GMT 1, Nerd
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Di-Faced Tenner, by fattyramone on Nov 4, 2013 22:40:29 GMT 1, Essentially you can't,especially with the progress of colour copying. People talk about the different words and lettering and the 'i', but all of these can be copied. No real way of telling, unless you have an original receipt from back in the day ... or a LAZ letterhead prov. thanking you and 'here is a Di-faced tenner for your waiting/troubles' A few threads here: urbanartassociation.com/board/140/di-face-caseThere's no way I can say this without coming across as a total nerd, but ... ... If you have a microscope and a Banksy COA with a torn note, then you can spot a fake in seconds. I know, cos I got burned on ebay for a hundred quid and I compared the two.
But , seriously , what is the giveaway under the microscope?
Essentially you can't,especially with the progress of colour copying. People talk about the different words and lettering and the 'i', but all of these can be copied. No real way of telling, unless you have an original receipt from back in the day ... or a LAZ letterhead prov. thanking you and 'here is a Di-faced tenner for your waiting/troubles' A few threads here: urbanartassociation.com/board/140/di-face-caseThere's no way I can say this without coming across as a total nerd, but ... ... If you have a microscope and a Banksy COA with a torn note, then you can spot a fake in seconds. I know, cos I got burned on ebay for a hundred quid and I compared the two. But , seriously , what is the giveaway under the microscope? |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 22:41:57 GMT 1,
Nerd?
... But not, 'Total Nerd' ?
Thank goodness for that.
Nerd? ... But not, 'Total Nerd' ? Thank goodness for that. |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 22:44:19 GMT 1, There's no way I can say this without coming across as a total nerd, but ... ... If you have a microscope and a Banksy COA with a torn note, then you can spot a fake in seconds. I know, cos I got burned on ebay for a hundred quid and I compared the two. But , seriously , what is the giveaway under the microscope?
(Consumer based) ink jet printing and laser jet printing isn't the same technique used on the originals.
There's no way I can say this without coming across as a total nerd, but ... ... If you have a microscope and a Banksy COA with a torn note, then you can spot a fake in seconds. I know, cos I got burned on ebay for a hundred quid and I compared the two. But , seriously , what is the giveaway under the microscope? (Consumer based) ink jet printing and laser jet printing isn't the same technique used on the originals. |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 23:05:45 GMT 1, There was/is a way to know the difference between a real fake tenner and a fake fake tenner - those that know, know
There was/is a way to know the difference between a real fake tenner and a fake fake tenner - those that know, know
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Di-Faced Tenner, by JD on Nov 4, 2013 23:06:33 GMT 1, There was/is a way to know the difference between a real fake tenner and a fake fake tenner - those that know, know
There was/is a way to know the difference between a real fake tenner and a fake fake tenner - those that know, know Do they put the green pen across it like in a shop ? |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 23:09:22 GMT 1, There was/is a way to know the difference between a real fake tenner and a fake fake tenner - those that know, know Do they put the green pen across it like in a shop ?
There was/is a way to know the difference between a real fake tenner and a fake fake tenner - those that know, know Do they put the green pen across it like in a shop ? I was once told to weigh them both. |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by silvermyn on Nov 4, 2013 23:14:57 GMT 1, There was/is a way to know the difference between a real fake tenner and a fake fake tenner - those that know, know
Are you saying that those that don't know don't know but could know if those that knew showed them what they know? Is that so...?!
There was/is a way to know the difference between a real fake tenner and a fake fake tenner - those that know, know Are you saying that those that don't know don't know but could know if those that knew showed them what they know? Is that so...?! |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by Strange Al on Nov 4, 2013 23:16:56 GMT 1, I'm still very doubtful one can spot a real Di Faced note from a good fake, even with a microscope and knowing the respective paper weights and type.
Are folks even sure that all of the legitimate notes were printed on the same printer and in one batch?
I'm still very doubtful one can spot a real Di Faced note from a good fake, even with a microscope and knowing the respective paper weights and type.
Are folks even sure that all of the legitimate notes were printed on the same printer and in one batch?
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Di-Faced Tenner, by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 23:23:47 GMT 1, I'm still very doubtful one can spot a real Di Faced note from a good fake, even with a microscope and knowing the respective paper weights and type. Are folks even sure that all of the legitimate notes were printed on the same printer and in one batch?
I'm still very doubtful one can spot a real Di Faced note from a good fake, even with a microscope and knowing the respective paper weights and type. Are folks even sure that all of the legitimate notes were printed on the same printer and in one batch? Honestly, it is obvious. One looks like Lichtenstein was shrunk by Ray what's 'is face. The other doesn't. |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by Deleted on Nov 4, 2013 23:49:00 GMT 1, There was/is a way to know the difference between a real fake tenner and a fake fake tenner - those that know, know Are you saying that those that don't know don't know but could know if those that knew showed them what they know? Is that so...?!
There was/is a way to know the difference between a real fake tenner and a fake fake tenner - those that know, know Are you saying that those that don't know don't know but could know if those that knew showed them what they know? Is that so...?! No what im saying is..... Those that know, know but they dont know those that know and those that dont know. Hope that clears that up for you, if not ask someone who knows, if you dont know someone who kmows, then take up a diiferent hobby |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by iamzero on Nov 5, 2013 0:20:52 GMT 1, I know that mine are real. And I know that if they are real I know they aren't fake. And I know that doesn't help.
I know that mine are real. And I know that if they are real I know they aren't fake. And I know that doesn't help.
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Di-Faced Tenner, by JD on Nov 5, 2013 7:09:33 GMT 1, I'm still very doubtful one can spot a real Di Faced note from a good fake, even with a microscope and knowing the respective paper weights and type. Are folks even sure that all of the legitimate notes were printed on the same printer and in one batch? 
I'm still very doubtful one can spot a real Di Faced note from a good fake, even with a microscope and knowing the respective paper weights and type. Are folks even sure that all of the legitimate notes were printed on the same printer and in one batch? Im pretty confident that any of the fakes will look real compared to the one I bought on ebay recently |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by silvermyn on Nov 5, 2013 7:56:15 GMT 1, Are you saying that those that don't know don't know but could know if those that knew showed them what they know? Is that so...?! No what im saying is..... Those that know, know but they dont know those that know and those that dont know. Hope that clears that up for you, if not ask someone who knows, if you dont know someone who kmows, then take up a diiferent hobby
Are you saying that those that don't know don't know but could know if those that knew showed them what they know? Is that so...?! No what im saying is..... Those that know, know but they dont know those that know and those that dont know. Hope that clears that up for you, if not ask someone who knows, if you dont know someone who kmows, then take up a diiferent hobby Yeah, well put jv! And all those that like to think they know but can't actually be bothered to make a positive contribution to this tread should really keep their smug little remarks to themselves... |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by iamzero on Nov 5, 2013 8:03:40 GMT 1, Happy to post a close up image of mine it it helps, probably won't because I've framed mine and I would imagine one way to tell would be how they are cropped?
Happy to post a close up image of mine it it helps, probably won't because I've framed mine and I would imagine one way to tell would be how they are cropped?
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Di-Faced Tenner, by urbanhangings on Nov 7, 2013 22:15:16 GMT 1, Whats the going rate on one of these now?
Sent from my GT-P3110 using proboards
Whats the going rate on one of these now?
Sent from my GT-P3110 using proboards
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Di-Faced Tenner, by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 21:52:00 GMT 1, I would love to have a real one, but i don't dare buying on on the bay....
I would love to have a real one, but i don't dare buying on on the bay....
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Di-Faced Tenner, by iamzero on Nov 8, 2013 23:12:20 GMT 1, Fetching anything up to about £400 on eBay... Barking mad.
Fetching anything up to about £400 on eBay... Barking mad.
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Di-Faced Tenner, by Deleted on Nov 8, 2013 23:13:21 GMT 1, Fetching anything up to about £400 on eBay... Barking mad.
Fetching anything up to about £400 on eBay... Barking mad. Just silly money! .... |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by marigot on Sept 21, 2015 21:10:50 GMT 1, One sold tonight by Artcurial (Lazarides provenance) for 1800€ + 30% premium=2340€ (1690£)...
Madness?
One sold tonight by Artcurial (Lazarides provenance) for 1800€ + 30% premium=2340€ (1690£)...
Madness?
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Di-Faced Tenner, by Dr Plip on Sept 21, 2015 21:31:49 GMT 1, One sold tonight by Artcurial (Lazarides provenance) for 1800€ + 30% premium=2340€ (1690£)... Madness?
One sold tonight by Artcurial (Lazarides provenance) for 1800€ + 30% premium=2340€ (1690£)... Madness? With all the evil and injustice in the world, can we blame people for wanting to spend hundreds of pounds on pieces of paper? |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by gatecrasher on Sept 21, 2015 21:46:53 GMT 1, Buy a fake, frame it and enjoy it for what it is.
It's not like Banksy passed each one out by hand and his sweat is still ingrained in the paper.
There's probably less Dismaland maps been printed than Di-faced tenners so they'll be worth hundreds in a few years time ... not
Buy a fake, frame it and enjoy it for what it is. It's not like Banksy passed each one out by hand and his sweat is still ingrained in the paper. There's probably less Dismaland maps been printed than Di-faced tenners so they'll be worth hundreds in a few years time ... not |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by Matt on Sept 21, 2015 21:54:12 GMT 1, One sold tonight by Artcurial (Lazarides provenance) for 1800€ + 30% premium=2340€ (1690£)... Madness?
Did Steve Lazarides himself come up and say "yes I remember selling / giving this person specifically that tenner" ? Am is missing something that establishes the provenance of a specific tenner ?
With decent copies selling all day online for 15 pounds (I bought one to have a look and they are really good, even closer to a real note paper than the Banksy ones), I have no clue how you can know you are buying a "real one".
Those who have a "real one", meaning they have established provenance first hand, know it.
They can't prove it for that specific tenner, but they sure can frame it knowing it is real and enjoy it that way.
One sold tonight by Artcurial (Lazarides provenance) for 1800€ + 30% premium=2340€ (1690£)... Madness? What i don't get was how the provenance established for that precise tenner ? Did Steve Lazarides himself come up and say "yes I remember selling / giving this person specifically that tenner" ? Am is missing something that establishes the provenance of a specific tenner ? With decent copies selling all day online for 15 pounds (I bought one to have a look and they are really good, even closer to a real note paper than the Banksy ones), I have no clue how you can know you are buying a "real one". Those who have a "real one", meaning they have established provenance first hand, know it. They can't prove it for that specific tenner, but they sure can frame it knowing it is real and enjoy it that way. |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by .dappy on Sept 21, 2015 22:03:04 GMT 1, One sold tonight by Artcurial (Lazarides provenance) for 1800€ + 30% premium=2340€ (1690£)... Madness? What i don't get was how the provenance established for that precise tenner ? Did Steve Lazarides himself come up and say "yes I remember selling / giving this person specifically that tenner" ? Am is missing something that establishes the provenance of a specific tenner ? With decent copies selling all day online for 15 pounds (I bought one to have a look and they are really good, even closer to a real note paper than the Banksy ones), I have no clue how you can know you are buying a "real one". Those who have a "real one", meaning they have established provenance first hand, know it. They can't prove it for that specific tenner, but they sure can frame it knowing it is real and enjoy it that way.
'... or a LAZ letterhead prov. thanking you and 'here is a Di-faced tenner for your waiting/troubles' '
see above 
One sold tonight by Artcurial (Lazarides provenance) for 1800€ + 30% premium=2340€ (1690£)... Madness? What i don't get was how the provenance established for that precise tenner ? Did Steve Lazarides himself come up and say "yes I remember selling / giving this person specifically that tenner" ? Am is missing something that establishes the provenance of a specific tenner ? With decent copies selling all day online for 15 pounds (I bought one to have a look and they are really good, even closer to a real note paper than the Banksy ones), I have no clue how you can know you are buying a "real one". Those who have a "real one", meaning they have established provenance first hand, know it. They can't prove it for that specific tenner, but they sure can frame it knowing it is real and enjoy it that way. '... or a LAZ letterhead prov. thanking you and 'here is a Di-faced tenner for your waiting/troubles' ' see above |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by marigot on Sept 21, 2015 23:20:14 GMT 1, One sold tonight by Artcurial (Lazarides provenance) for 1800€ + 30% premium=2340€ (1690£)... Madness? What i don't get was how the provenance established for that precise tenner ? Did Steve Lazarides himself come up and say "yes I remember selling / giving this person specifically that tenner" ? Am is missing something that establishes the provenance of a specific tenner ? With decent copies selling all day online for 15 pounds (I bought one to have a look and they are really good, even closer to a real note paper than the Banksy ones), I have no clue how you can know you are buying a "real one". Those who have a "real one", meaning they have established provenance first hand, know it. They can't prove it for that specific tenner, but they sure can frame it knowing it is real and enjoy it that way.
Lot 220
BANKSY Né en 1975
DI-FACED TENNER 10 POUNDS - 2004
Impression offset
OFFSET PRINT
Hauteur : 7,50 Largeur : 14,20 cm
Provenance : Lazarides Gallery, Londres
Collection particulière, Paris
Estimation 500 - 700 €
- See more at: www.artcurial.com/fr/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=2746+++++220+&refno=10513249#sthash.0DyFl0dD.dpuf
One sold tonight by Artcurial (Lazarides provenance) for 1800€ + 30% premium=2340€ (1690£)... Madness? What i don't get was how the provenance established for that precise tenner ? Did Steve Lazarides himself come up and say "yes I remember selling / giving this person specifically that tenner" ? Am is missing something that establishes the provenance of a specific tenner ? With decent copies selling all day online for 15 pounds (I bought one to have a look and they are really good, even closer to a real note paper than the Banksy ones), I have no clue how you can know you are buying a "real one". Those who have a "real one", meaning they have established provenance first hand, know it. They can't prove it for that specific tenner, but they sure can frame it knowing it is real and enjoy it that way. Lot 220 BANKSY Né en 1975 DI-FACED TENNER 10 POUNDS - 2004 Impression offset OFFSET PRINT Hauteur : 7,50 Largeur : 14,20 cm Provenance : Lazarides Gallery, Londres Collection particulière, Paris Estimation 500 - 700 € - See more at: www.artcurial.com/fr/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=2746+++++220+&refno=10513249#sthash.0DyFl0dD.dpuf |
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Di-Faced Tenner, by rockhopper on Sept 22, 2015 21:08:41 GMT 1, Can i just start by saying i dont have a DiFaced tenner, so what im about to say is based purely on the picture from artcurial.
Artcurials picture clearly shows the EURion constellation, this in theory makes it impossible to copy or scan using commercially available copiers or scanners. Also photoshop will not allow the image to be edited.
So how are the copies on ebay produced?
Can i just start by saying i dont have a DiFaced tenner, so what im about to say is based purely on the picture from artcurial.
Artcurials picture clearly shows the EURion constellation, this in theory makes it impossible to copy or scan using commercially available copiers or scanners. Also photoshop will not allow the image to be edited.
So how are the copies on ebay produced?
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Di-Faced Tenner, by Dave on Mar 7, 2017 5:53:16 GMT 1, Just bought this one from a gallery. Do you think it's real? Checked it against my COA. What are your thoughts?
Just bought this one from a gallery. Do you think it's real? Checked it against my COA. What are your thoughts? |
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