L.N no COA 2000 pounds.

I was offered 1200usd for an applause a couple of years ago.

Wish I picked it up, but didn't have wall space for such a huge piece

Applause isn't £1800 IMO - one has sat on eBay at that for weeks with no bids. Didn't prescription art have one at £1500 for a good while too? I'd say more like £1300 - maybe a bit more.

Laugh Now is a sought after print - £2750-£3000 maybe?

This interests me bacause of a conversation i had with a mate yesterday .Back in the day he bought signed Bombhugger, barcode and pulp fiction.I posted pic on here years ago. He had no idea about worth.He thought maybe 1k each ! He asked me the other day how much they are worth . After trying to buy them all for way under the market as a joke , I told him about the need for pest control.His actual answer was I am the original owner from POW, and pest control can poke it, the mugs. He isnt joking.
I also havent got pest control for a lot of mine. This is only because .I am lazy, it takes ages , ( edit and costs !) and Im not a seller.I do think i should though, in case they ever stop doing it. I wouldnt buy a Banksy without one btw, well not at market prices anyway.

The only thing that goes sailing through my mind that makes me think i should sort sooner rather than later is.......

One of the late comers with correct POW trail gets around to applying for a COA. Pest find out it has the same number print as one that already has a COA.

what happens then?


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Hello.

Applause , going rate 1600 , and I should know...
Ln , 2400 ish IMO

With ref to other issues such as coas.. Few points to consider , swim into the weekend with.
Coa current price x
Say you had 5 prints , ages old no coa... Then they (coa price) went up to x plus 20 %. ...
Why would they ? Well as time goes on the amount of work pc have to do one each print will inevitably
Go up.. Hence at some point I anticipate .. They will.
Reaction, probably abject horror and revulsion .. At 'how could they'.. Followed by 'doh' ..'why didn't I..'

Chances are they will at some point..

Next... Anyone with a few insured ? The days of getting insurance on what is 'appreciating' art without coa.. Are coming to an end.. Mine used to say don't worry.. Now they don't.(they do say no coas in the vicinity as well)

There are more points to consider as I'm sure a few folks have on this touchy matter.. C'est la vie..

Yep, you're all right

it'll be this weekends project in between beers

Is there really a difference in price achieved if you are selling a print with full /confirmed provenance vs. Pest Control COA these days?

I was under the impression that a potential buyer of a print could confirm with Pest Control that the seller is the registered owner (and then once the sale is complete they can knock themselves out with a COA if they want). Is that not the case?

Provenance is a provable history of ownership. All my Banksy's are authentic; and I definitely don't have Pest Control COAs for all of them. Would love to hear what everyone thinks..

Or maybe that 'system' has been phased out, and COA is the new.  Can anyone else shed light?

..interesting points.

1/ the conf with pow situ is still in place afaik.
2/ the coa is belt and braces

1/ is not acceptable by the new generation.. ok by the old generation.
2/ is acceptable by all , generally.

which generarion are you ? aha ..

oh and yeah those auction house people - they like COA's covers them
..and insurance folks .. like them as well...especially if you never make a claim.

.. oh and no . don't call me helium.. ! (very few will get that.. aha!!)

If you are going to spend the sort of money that Banksys are fetching you want to be 100% sure it's legit the only way is pest control.

Hey buddy - we need to catch up in general offline 

I think one point that should be noted is that there has been issues within the Banksy organisation itself on numbering and that what is motivating me to get COA's: I bought a Happy Choppers form Lazarides way back whenever and I was contacted about a year later by POW who wanted to confirm where I had got my HC from, they were pretty cagey when I asked why they wanted to know but it looked like there was some F. up over numbering. If you haven't got COA I suggest that you get yours and get the edition number logged and in writing as yours. If I were to buy, I wouldn't just rely on COA's but would also want to know the provenance too and have some back up for that, just like any other art work.

I am an old time collector and I remember the days of the Birmingham printer and prints going around without numbers but which were non the less Banksy prints done by the other printers that were used in those days….all prints didn't just come from POW.

You old collectors out there with the old rarities, think about getting them registered just so that the back door prints with possible after sale numbering is not registered in the place of the 'real' one. Because POW can't rely on it's system or on the print itself.

Buyers don't just rely on the POW COA's look for provenance as well. It is something to think about.