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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by Deleted on Jul 4, 2013 21:49:09 GMT 1, Rom is Daleast manager... Do you have **atti** proof  ??
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by Vandalog on Jul 4, 2013 23:37:11 GMT 1, Rom is Daleast manager... Do you have proof ?  "
And this francacirano seems to probably be the real one, since the real Fran said this on Google+ about the post.
So I wouldn't call that proof, but I'd say that at the very least a SAN contributor was also under the impression that Rom manages DALeast.
Rom is Daleast manager... Do you have proof ? If francacirano is actually the real Fran Cacirano (and of course that's a big if), she might be a reliable person to ask. The bio on her blog says "I also write for some street art news blog⦠" And this francacirano seems to probably be the real one, since the real Fran said this on Google+ about the post. So I wouldn't call that proof, but I'd say that at the very least a SAN contributor was also under the impression that Rom manages DALeast. |
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by sohohoho on Jul 5, 2013 0:18:38 GMT 1, Norwegian Fran? haha. This thread is too funny. All sorts of shenanigans going on!
Norwegian Fran? haha. This thread is too funny. All sorts of shenanigans going on!
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 6:57:21 GMT 1, Im sorry, I deleted the word "so" in the end of that sentence. I didnt notice before now... that came out wrong, I didn't mean it to sound like that ...
Im sorry, I deleted the word "so" in the end of that sentence. I didnt notice before now... that came out wrong, I didn't mean it to sound like that ...
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by twist65 on Jul 5, 2013 10:44:14 GMT 1, fair do's Vandalog for admitting you made a few mistakes here, and i agree with you that regardless of the way it was reported the essence of your argument is valid. If a blog is hyping an artist from a supposed neutral journalistic standpoint when in fact they manage him, then they deserve to get called out for that. Though I would still kind of expect a street art blog to post about artists they either liked personally or had some sort of financially beneficial arrangement with, be it "management" or receiving prints in kind etc.
It takes a lot of hard work and dedication to turn a passion into a profession, and I suppose these grey areas are just a bi-product of this. The pros outweigh the cons though. It's great to have a wealth of street art news and pics out there, and it's up to the individual to use their own judgement on the merits of the artist and the motives of the post/blog/blogger.
fair do's Vandalog for admitting you made a few mistakes here, and i agree with you that regardless of the way it was reported the essence of your argument is valid. If a blog is hyping an artist from a supposed neutral journalistic standpoint when in fact they manage him, then they deserve to get called out for that. Though I would still kind of expect a street art blog to post about artists they either liked personally or had some sort of financially beneficial arrangement with, be it "management" or receiving prints in kind etc.
It takes a lot of hard work and dedication to turn a passion into a profession, and I suppose these grey areas are just a bi-product of this. The pros outweigh the cons though. It's great to have a wealth of street art news and pics out there, and it's up to the individual to use their own judgement on the merits of the artist and the motives of the post/blog/blogger.
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 11:27:58 GMT 1, Why does it matter if Rom is Dals manager ? A lot of artists have managers, it lets Dal get on with painting and Rom to sort out the walls etc.
Why does it matter if Rom is Dals manager ? A lot of artists have managers, it lets Dal get on with painting and Rom to sort out the walls etc.
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by hunter on Jul 5, 2013 12:19:30 GMT 1, Why does it matter if Rom is Dals manager ? A lot of artists have managers, it lets Dal get on with painting and Rom to sort out the walls etc.
Might be naive but I'm amazed that graffiti artists have 'managers'. Another nail in the coffin. You'll be telling me next that they have riders in their contracts before they paint at a festival. Blue smarties only!
Why does it matter if Rom is Dals manager ? A lot of artists have managers, it lets Dal get on with painting and Rom to sort out the walls etc. Might be naive but I'm amazed that graffiti artists have 'managers'. Another nail in the coffin. You'll be telling me next that they have riders in their contracts before they paint at a festival. Blue smarties only! |
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by BKBOI on Jul 5, 2013 13:55:46 GMT 1, This talk is so street.
This talk is so street.
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by sohohoho on Jul 5, 2013 14:55:12 GMT 1, Why does it matter if Rom is Dals manager ? A lot of artists have managers, it lets Dal get on with painting and Rom to sort out the walls etc. Might be naive but I'm amazed that graffiti artists have 'managers'. Another nail in the coffin. You'll be telling me next that they have riders in their contracts before they paint at a festival. Blue smarties only!
Why does it matter if Rom is Dals manager ? A lot of artists have managers, it lets Dal get on with painting and Rom to sort out the walls etc. Might be naive but I'm amazed that graffiti artists have 'managers'. Another nail in the coffin. You'll be telling me next that they have riders in their contracts before they paint at a festival. Blue smarties only! I'd be amazed too if graffiti artists had managers but we're not really talking about graffiti here, are we? More like globe trotting daylight muralists/street artists who haven't got time to arrange their own walls etc. as well as paint. Any excuse to bash the genre though I suppose. |
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 15:03:08 GMT 1, Any excuse to bash the genre though I suppose.
as excuses go it's fairly valid
Any excuse to bash the genre though I suppose. as excuses go it's fairly valid |
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by sohohoho on Jul 5, 2013 15:10:41 GMT 1, I don't see how it is. It sounds like you both misunderstand the very same genre that you spend time on.
I don't see how it is. It sounds like you both misunderstand the very same genre that you spend time on.
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by Deleted on Jul 5, 2013 15:17:50 GMT 1, I don't see how it is. It sounds like you both misunderstand the very same genre that you spend time on.
perception is everything
I don't see how it is. It sounds like you both misunderstand the very same genre that you spend time on. perception is everything |
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by sal on Jul 5, 2013 18:32:40 GMT 1, My point is that Vandalog, myself, SAN, Arrested Motion and so forth should only be research not taken as actual fact. We have our relationships with certain artists, genres of art, cities, galleries, and so forth Its impossible not to be biased.
Im reading this wondering how come people can get this fired up over something so uncertain and so unclear.. I mean, it's not like we all agreed what the definition of "manager" is, right?!.. Also, do you think they have a professional, signed-up-contract kind of relation, or maybe they just found mutual interests in what they are doing?!.. And which one of those scenarios is actually a bad thing as long as you like the work that comes out, and you're enjoying seeing it on the street/your wall?!..
As many pointed out, it's obvious that there is a connection between Dal and SAN (hence the print releases), but "accusing" (if that is even possible), that SAN owner is Dal's manager, sounds like not much more than throwing a sensation bomb.. And I can't believe how many people hooked on that as it's important.. I can think of 10 other artists and "managers" like that right away..
Personally, I've been in touch with Dal few times, and I never got an impression that he has a manager, cause artists with real managers or representative galleries just dont talk about things Dal was openly talking about.. He certainly has people all over the world helping him find the walls, work out the logistics to paint them, etc.. Whether it's the guy from SAN or Jonathan Levine himself, it really doesn't bother me.. If I ever get a chance to have him paint in my home town, I'll gladly be his manager for those couple of days.. As Im sure many of you would..
Oh, and as for 'what makes you want to paint a particular wall or notβ the artist simply replied, βfateβ which sounds so much cooler than βmy manager picks my walls for meβ', doesn't this sound like Faith (his wife), IS his manager?!?
My point is that Vandalog, myself, SAN, Arrested Motion and so forth should only be research not taken as actual fact. We have our relationships with certain artists, genres of art, cities, galleries, and so forth Its impossible not to be biased. Thanks for pointing that out Vandalog! Im reading this wondering how come people can get this fired up over something so uncertain and so unclear.. I mean, it's not like we all agreed what the definition of "manager" is, right?!.. Also, do you think they have a professional, signed-up-contract kind of relation, or maybe they just found mutual interests in what they are doing?!.. And which one of those scenarios is actually a bad thing as long as you like the work that comes out, and you're enjoying seeing it on the street/your wall?!.. As many pointed out, it's obvious that there is a connection between Dal and SAN (hence the print releases), but "accusing" (if that is even possible), that SAN owner is Dal's manager, sounds like not much more than throwing a sensation bomb.. And I can't believe how many people hooked on that as it's important.. I can think of 10 other artists and "managers" like that right away.. Personally, I've been in touch with Dal few times, and I never got an impression that he has a manager, cause artists with real managers or representative galleries just dont talk about things Dal was openly talking about.. He certainly has people all over the world helping him find the walls, work out the logistics to paint them, etc.. Whether it's the guy from SAN or Jonathan Levine himself, it really doesn't bother me.. If I ever get a chance to have him paint in my home town, I'll gladly be his manager for those couple of days.. As Im sure many of you would.. Oh, and as for 'what makes you want to paint a particular wall or notβ the artist simply replied, βfateβ which sounds so much cooler than βmy manager picks my walls for meβ', doesn't this sound like Faith (his wife), IS his manager?!? |
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by dono on Jul 8, 2013 8:51:18 GMT 1, Any work exept civilisation.Sale or trade with my eelus unique hand cutor also dark lim 23. Pm if interested.Dono
Any work exept civilisation.Sale or trade with my eelus unique hand cutor also dark lim 23. Pm if interested.Dono
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by willnyc on Jul 21, 2013 18:53:57 GMT 1, Great shots
Great shots
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by sal on Jul 22, 2013 14:20:21 GMT 1, 
ArrestedMotion.com just published an interview with Dal East, along with some photos and videos of his recent murals...
ArrestedMotion.com just published an interview with Dal East, along with some photos and videos of his recent murals...
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by The Origin on Jul 25, 2013 20:22:48 GMT 1, New wall is looking really great!
New wall is looking really great! |
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by The Origin on Jul 27, 2013 10:40:14 GMT 1, This is looking really great! (Pictures posted by SKY over on EB forum)
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by kaboom on Jul 27, 2013 16:19:52 GMT 1, Anyone got a work from Daleast or Evol for sale?
Thanks!
Tom
Anyone got a work from Daleast or Evol for sale?
Thanks!
Tom
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by kaboom on Jul 29, 2013 9:45:37 GMT 1, Thanks, forgot all about it that POW still had some prints!
Thanks, forgot all about it that POW still had some prints!
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by kaboom on Jul 29, 2013 11:24:12 GMT 1, Thanks, Germany even better for me!
Thanks, Germany even better for me!
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by letiss on Aug 1, 2013 14:13:31 GMT 1, Wonder if these are being shipped today :-) suspect it's more likely in 30 days time. Anyone know anymore about the prizes?
Wonder if these are being shipped today :-) suspect it's more likely in 30 days time. Anyone know anymore about the prizes?
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by Happy Shopper on Aug 1, 2013 17:06:49 GMT 1, I haven't heard anything. Anyone been in touch for the prize ??
I haven't heard anything. Anyone been in touch for the prize ??
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by The Origin on Aug 10, 2013 14:23:51 GMT 1, Anyone been in touch with Dal or heard anything about the dare prizes yet?
New wall in Brooklyn:
Anyone been in touch with Dal or heard anything about the dare prizes yet? New wall in Brooklyn: |
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by jusdeep on Aug 11, 2013 9:58:03 GMT 1, Looks like he's back in London so maybe we'll see some new street work and hopefully competition prizes soon.
Looks like he's back in London so maybe we'll see some new street work and hopefully competition prizes soon.
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DALeast π¨π³ Wuhan, China β’ Street Art β’ Based in Cape Town, by Feral Things on Aug 15, 2013 13:25:55 GMT 1,
You can always rely on the Daily Mail for some lazy and inaccurate journalist! Does DALeast actually travel the world tagging walls? I must confess I've never actually seen a DALeast tag on the streets or in photos online. Also, he's not exactly secretive is he? He seems to spent a fair amount of his time painting openly at organised events. It's absolutely not a criticism of DALeast but the Daily Mail seem to have arbitrarily applied two things they associate with graffiti in general (i.e. tagging and secrecy) and applied it to him. Given that it's the Daily Mail though perhaps we should just be glad they're not complaining he's taking painting opportunities away from 'good, honest British' writers.
You can always rely on the Daily Mail for some lazy and inaccurate journalist! Does DALeast actually travel the world tagging walls? I must confess I've never actually seen a DALeast tag on the streets or in photos online. Also, he's not exactly secretive is he? He seems to spent a fair amount of his time painting openly at organised events. It's absolutely not a criticism of DALeast but the Daily Mail seem to have arbitrarily applied two things they associate with graffiti in general (i.e. tagging and secrecy) and applied it to him. Given that it's the Daily Mail though perhaps we should just be glad they're not complaining he's taking painting opportunities away from 'good, honest British' writers. |
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