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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by moron on Feb 2, 2018 9:41:54 GMT 1, For Sale. RETNA Braddock Tiles, 2013 Digital print on archival Canson Mi-Tientes paper 19 x 13 in (48.26 x 33.02 cm) Edition of 250 Embossed stamp on left hand side Mint condition. £1000 Postage and packing included in the price. This print was created for the occasion of the November 16, 2013 fundraising event for Braddock Tiles, a community-based artisanal micro-factory located in a formerly abandoned church in North Braddock, Pennsylvania. A project initiated by the artist Swoon, the Braddock Tile factory is part of a larger trend of neighborhood-based art making occuring in the once blighted area of North Braddock. The event, organized by Swoon, and in collaboration with Superchief Gallery and the Anita Shapolsky Foundation, took place at the Anita Shapolsky Gallery in New York City, and encompassed a group exhibition of a large series of prints and original works contributed by renowned urban artists such as Swoon herself as well as FAILE, C215, RETNA, ROA, among others. All proceeds raised at this event went towards the rehabilitation of the church and revitalizing the Braddock community. RETNA is perhaps best known for appropriating fashion advertisements and amplifying them with his unique layering, intricate line work, text-based style and incandescent color palette reflecting an eclectic artistic tradition. RETNA became just as notorious for his ornate painting technique as his timeless style: he used paintbrushes mixed with the traditional spray can. Many of his pieces synthesize the line between fine art and graffiti, between power and opposition, between tradition and advancement, between the past and future.  Perhaps I’m confused or old.. but what’s a digital print?
For Sale. RETNA Braddock Tiles, 2013 Digital print on archival Canson Mi-Tientes paper 19 x 13 in (48.26 x 33.02 cm) Edition of 250 Embossed stamp on left hand side Mint condition. £1000 Postage and packing included in the price. This print was created for the occasion of the November 16, 2013 fundraising event for Braddock Tiles, a community-based artisanal micro-factory located in a formerly abandoned church in North Braddock, Pennsylvania. A project initiated by the artist Swoon, the Braddock Tile factory is part of a larger trend of neighborhood-based art making occuring in the once blighted area of North Braddock. The event, organized by Swoon, and in collaboration with Superchief Gallery and the Anita Shapolsky Foundation, took place at the Anita Shapolsky Gallery in New York City, and encompassed a group exhibition of a large series of prints and original works contributed by renowned urban artists such as Swoon herself as well as FAILE, C215, RETNA, ROA, among others. All proceeds raised at this event went towards the rehabilitation of the church and revitalizing the Braddock community. RETNA is perhaps best known for appropriating fashion advertisements and amplifying them with his unique layering, intricate line work, text-based style and incandescent color palette reflecting an eclectic artistic tradition. RETNA became just as notorious for his ornate painting technique as his timeless style: he used paintbrushes mixed with the traditional spray can. Many of his pieces synthesize the line between fine art and graffiti, between power and opposition, between tradition and advancement, between the past and future. Perhaps I’m confused or old.. but what’s a digital print? Giclee ? |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by GMA on Feb 2, 2018 9:56:53 GMT 1, No need to quote the flipper post."Come here girls, so that I can throw giclées of champagne on you" 
No need to quote the flipper post."Come here girls, so that I can throw giclées of champagne on you" I laughed louder than I should have at that haha |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by moron on Feb 2, 2018 10:04:23 GMT 1, No need to quote the flipper post.Yep, Giclée is the pompous term to say digital printing. Invented by an English, he wanted something Frenchy I guess to express finesse and call it "Giclée". But for French, giclée is nothing about finesse  Giclée is a dirty naughty word, nudge nudge Ethymologically, English people may not be familiar with the term "giclée" but they know with another word coming from the same root which is "ejaculate". Indeed, the latin root of "Giclee" is "ejacular", meaning to spray out liquid. And giclée is a French world to mean exactly that, "Come here girls, so that I can throw giclées of champagne on you"
There again Retno is wealthy and his prints massively priced so could easily pay for quality lithos or stone lithos or woodcuts to be made.
Seems that for some, the more they have the more of a cheapskate they become.
No need to quote the flipper post.Yep, Giclée is the pompous term to say digital printing. Invented by an English, he wanted something Frenchy I guess to express finesse and call it "Giclée". But for French, giclée is nothing about finesse Giclée is a dirty naughty word, nudge nudge Ethymologically, English people may not be familiar with the term "giclée" but they know with another word coming from the same root which is "ejaculate". Indeed, the latin root of "Giclee" is "ejacular", meaning to spray out liquid. And giclée is a French world to mean exactly that, "Come here girls, so that I can throw giclées of champagne on you" Jizz prints are not low quality and generally done because to set up a litho printing press to create a short run is not economically viable for a lot of artists. Lithos are for large numbers usually. There again Retno is wealthy and his prints massively priced so could easily pay for quality lithos or stone lithos or woodcuts to be made. Seems that for some, the more they have the more of a cheapskate they become. |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by twist65 on Feb 2, 2018 11:52:20 GMT 1, Sigh... "Giclée printing" refers to the varnish applied to the prints NOT the printing method itself. However the Braddock Tiles prints are not giclées they are digitally printed, which normally means a professional grade of inkjet-type technology, but can mean other print methods too.
And did anyone read the OPs post before slamming Retna? The Braddock Tiles prints was a fundraising project by curated by Swoon, for a community project. Retna was one of the artists who stepped up. The reason why all of the prints in this series aren't 57 colour screenprints or woodcuts on deckled 900gsm stock is to keep production costs at a minimum, so that the project had the lowest possible overheads and more money could be raised to a very worth cause.
So a thread about this particular Retna print is probably the least relevant to try and assassinate his character on.
Sigh... "Giclée printing" refers to the varnish applied to the prints NOT the printing method itself. However the Braddock Tiles prints are not giclées they are digitally printed, which normally means a professional grade of inkjet-type technology, but can mean other print methods too.
And did anyone read the OPs post before slamming Retna? The Braddock Tiles prints was a fundraising project by curated by Swoon, for a community project. Retna was one of the artists who stepped up. The reason why all of the prints in this series aren't 57 colour screenprints or woodcuts on deckled 900gsm stock is to keep production costs at a minimum, so that the project had the lowest possible overheads and more money could be raised to a very worth cause.
So a thread about this particular Retna print is probably the least relevant to try and assassinate his character on.
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 11:57:51 GMT 1, Sigh... "Giclée printing" refers to the varnish applied to the prints NOT the printing method itself. However the Braddock Tiles prints are not giclées they are digitally printed, which normally means a professional grade of inkjet-type technology, but can mean other print methods too. And did anyone read the OPs post before slamming Retna? The Braddock Tiles prints was a fundraising project by curated by Swoon, for a community project. Retna was one of the artists who stepped up. The reason why all of the prints in this series aren't 57 colour screenprints or woodcuts on deckled 900gsm stock is to keep production costs at a minimum, so that the project had the lowest possible overheads and more money could be raised to a very worth cause. So a thread about this particular Retna print is probably the least relevant to try and assassinate his character on.
Sure, he was nice to participate at Swoon cheap project, nice dude but you can't ignore Retna's past and history. It is nice to have both so that reader don't get only once of the good story.
BUT the remark about the seller flipping a $45 cheap print at $1424 is very relevant !!
Sigh... "Giclée printing" refers to the varnish applied to the prints NOT the printing method itself. However the Braddock Tiles prints are not giclées they are digitally printed, which normally means a professional grade of inkjet-type technology, but can mean other print methods too. And did anyone read the OPs post before slamming Retna? The Braddock Tiles prints was a fundraising project by curated by Swoon, for a community project. Retna was one of the artists who stepped up. The reason why all of the prints in this series aren't 57 colour screenprints or woodcuts on deckled 900gsm stock is to keep production costs at a minimum, so that the project had the lowest possible overheads and more money could be raised to a very worth cause. So a thread about this particular Retna print is probably the least relevant to try and assassinate his character on. Giclée is digital printing using inkjet printers. Do you have a source saying it is the varnish and not the process ? Sure, he was nice to participate at Swoon cheap project, nice dude but you can't ignore Retna's past and history. It is nice to have both so that reader don't get only once of the good story. BUT the remark about the seller flipping a $45 cheap print at $1424 is very relevant !! |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by Happy Shopper on Feb 2, 2018 12:34:06 GMT 1, Sigh... "Giclée printing" refers to the varnish applied to the prints NOT the printing method itself. However the Braddock Tiles prints are not giclées they are digitally printed, which normally means a professional grade of inkjet-type technology, but can mean other print methods too.
I don't know if the definition has changed but "Giclée" started as a fancy name for a pro grade digital print.
Sigh... "Giclée printing" refers to the varnish applied to the prints NOT the printing method itself. However the Braddock Tiles prints are not giclées they are digitally printed, which normally means a professional grade of inkjet-type technology, but can mean other print methods too. I don't know if the definition has changed but "Giclée" started as a fancy name for a pro grade digital print. |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 12:44:43 GMT 1, Sigh... "Giclée printing" refers to the varnish applied to the prints NOT the printing method itself. However the Braddock Tiles prints are not giclées they are digitally printed, which normally means a professional grade of inkjet-type technology, but can mean other print methods too. I don't know if the definition has changed but "Giclée" started as a fancy name for a pro grade digital print.
I agree - a quick google will tell you that. From the French word for spraying ink. Sigh...
Sigh... "Giclée printing" refers to the varnish applied to the prints NOT the printing method itself. However the Braddock Tiles prints are not giclées they are digitally printed, which normally means a professional grade of inkjet-type technology, but can mean other print methods too. I don't know if the definition has changed but "Giclée" started as a fancy name for a pro grade digital print. I agree - a quick google will tell you that. From the French word for spraying ink. Sigh... |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by jusdeep on Feb 2, 2018 13:02:14 GMT 1, As above, nothing to do with varnish!
And to say the seller if flipping the print is a little harsh. It was released years ago and the price asked is relatively cheap compared to what I have seen some galleries selling it for. You wouldn't expect people to sell a Banksy for £50 in todays market - things change
As above, nothing to do with varnish!
And to say the seller if flipping the print is a little harsh. It was released years ago and the price asked is relatively cheap compared to what I have seen some galleries selling it for. You wouldn't expect people to sell a Banksy for £50 in todays market - things change
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by bjoern on Feb 2, 2018 13:13:13 GMT 1, I really like this print even it's a digital one... I assume 1k is a little bit overpriced but Retna prices increased dramatically since this was released in 2013. What would be a fair market valuation at the moment?
GLWS!
I really like this print even it's a digital one... I assume 1k is a little bit overpriced but Retna prices increased dramatically since this was released in 2013. What would be a fair market valuation at the moment?
GLWS!
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by Aubrey 245 on Feb 2, 2018 13:16:21 GMT 1, I really like this print even it's a digital one... I assume 1k is a little bit overpriced but Retna prices increased dramatically since this was released in 2013. What would be a fair market valuation at the moment? GLWS!
Few weeks ago I was looking for one on the board here, got offered for £ 600.
I really like this print even it's a digital one... I assume 1k is a little bit overpriced but Retna prices increased dramatically since this was released in 2013. What would be a fair market valuation at the moment? GLWS! Few weeks ago I was looking for one on the board here, got offered for £ 600. |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by twist65 on Feb 2, 2018 13:20:51 GMT 1, The term has been reappropriated as a fancy sounding term to up-sell digital inkjet prints but originally the word applied to the varnish, not the print. I remember when it first came on the market. You ran out an inkjet print, and applied giclée varnish. Hey presto your digital inkjet print was now a giclée print. Since digital printing technology has improved, the original benefits of giclée varnish are reduced, but people still use the term giclée as it sounds more expensive/appealing to the art market than 'digital print' or 'inkjet print.'
The term has been reappropriated as a fancy sounding term to up-sell digital inkjet prints but originally the word applied to the varnish, not the print. I remember when it first came on the market. You ran out an inkjet print, and applied giclée varnish. Hey presto your digital inkjet print was now a giclée print. Since digital printing technology has improved, the original benefits of giclée varnish are reduced, but people still use the term giclée as it sounds more expensive/appealing to the art market than 'digital print' or 'inkjet print.'
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by docean on Feb 2, 2018 13:37:08 GMT 1, Retna is a woman beating drug addict. I can’t in good conscience do anything to support his market.
Retna is a woman beating drug addict. I can’t in good conscience do anything to support his market.
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by jonahj on Feb 2, 2018 13:50:11 GMT 1, Retna is a woman beating drug addict. I can’t in good conscience do anything to support his market.
Retna is a woman beating drug addict. I can’t in good conscience do anything to support his market. You are right but it is hard because I really like the art. |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by docean on Feb 2, 2018 13:57:59 GMT 1, Retna is a woman beating drug addict. I can’t in good conscience do anything to support his market. You are right but it is hard because I really like the art.
Pokras Lampas is close enough to satisfy my taste
Retna is a woman beating drug addict. I can’t in good conscience do anything to support his market. You are right but it is hard because I really like the art. Pokras Lampas is close enough to satisfy my taste |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by GMA on Feb 2, 2018 14:00:42 GMT 1, Digital isn't always cheaper than litho, it depends on the run and also how many prints can fit onto a sheet. Sometimes you'll find that digital can be more expensive than litho because they can only fit a certain amount on the sheet.
It used to be a given than litho was more expensive because you'd have the plates made up, send the artwork through the rip, all of the inks, separations and so on, each plate would then run through the press creating your print.
Digital you could literally print from the computer direct to the printer. I got a job printed recently, 1,000 A4 8pp booklets, surprisingly the litho quote was far cheaper.
Digital isn't always cheaper than litho, it depends on the run and also how many prints can fit onto a sheet. Sometimes you'll find that digital can be more expensive than litho because they can only fit a certain amount on the sheet.
It used to be a given than litho was more expensive because you'd have the plates made up, send the artwork through the rip, all of the inks, separations and so on, each plate would then run through the press creating your print.
Digital you could literally print from the computer direct to the printer. I got a job printed recently, 1,000 A4 8pp booklets, surprisingly the litho quote was far cheaper.
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by geoffny on Feb 2, 2018 14:26:35 GMT 1, Digital isn't always cheaper than litho, it depends on the run and also how many prints can fit onto a sheet. Sometimes you'll find that digital can be more expensive than litho because they can only fit a certain amount on the sheet. It used to be a given than litho was more expensive because you'd have the plates made up, send the artwork through the rip, all of the inks, separations and so on, each plate would then run through the press creating your print. Digital you could literally print from the computer direct to the printer. I got a job printed recently, 1,000 A4 8pp booklets, surprisingly the litho quote was far cheaper.
This guy knows what he is talking about. It all comes down to run quantity. Small runs are mostly always digital due to the heavy make ready (wastage) it takes to get an offset printer up to full calibration.
Digital isn't always cheaper than litho, it depends on the run and also how many prints can fit onto a sheet. Sometimes you'll find that digital can be more expensive than litho because they can only fit a certain amount on the sheet. It used to be a given than litho was more expensive because you'd have the plates made up, send the artwork through the rip, all of the inks, separations and so on, each plate would then run through the press creating your print. Digital you could literally print from the computer direct to the printer. I got a job printed recently, 1,000 A4 8pp booklets, surprisingly the litho quote was far cheaper. This guy knows what he is talking about. It all comes down to run quantity. Small runs are mostly always digital due to the heavy make ready (wastage) it takes to get an offset printer up to full calibration. |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by Deleted on Feb 2, 2018 14:49:33 GMT 1, Sigh... "Giclée printing" refers to the varnish applied to the prints NOT the printing method itself. However the Braddock Tiles prints are not giclées they are digitally printed, which normally means a professional grade of inkjet-type technology, but can mean other print methods too. And did anyone read the OPs post before slamming Retna? The Braddock Tiles prints was a fundraising project by curated by Swoon, for a community project. Retna was one of the artists who stepped up. The reason why all of the prints in this series aren't 57 colour screenprints or woodcuts on deckled 900gsm stock is to keep production costs at a minimum, so that the project had the lowest possible overheads and more money could be raised to a very worth cause. So a thread about this particular Retna print is probably the least relevant to try and assassinate his character on. Giclée is digital printing using inkjet printers. Do you have a source saying it is the varnish and not the process ? Sure, he was nice to participate at Swoon cheap project, nice dude but you can't ignore Retna's past and history. It is nice to have both so that reader don't get only once of the good story. BUT the remark about the seller flipping a $45 cheap print at $1424 is very relevant !!
Sigh... "Giclée printing" refers to the varnish applied to the prints NOT the printing method itself. However the Braddock Tiles prints are not giclées they are digitally printed, which normally means a professional grade of inkjet-type technology, but can mean other print methods too. And did anyone read the OPs post before slamming Retna? The Braddock Tiles prints was a fundraising project by curated by Swoon, for a community project. Retna was one of the artists who stepped up. The reason why all of the prints in this series aren't 57 colour screenprints or woodcuts on deckled 900gsm stock is to keep production costs at a minimum, so that the project had the lowest possible overheads and more money could be raised to a very worth cause. So a thread about this particular Retna print is probably the least relevant to try and assassinate his character on. Giclée is digital printing using inkjet printers. Do you have a source saying it is the varnish and not the process ? Sure, he was nice to participate at Swoon cheap project, nice dude but you can't ignore Retna's past and history. It is nice to have both so that reader don't get only once of the good story. BUT the remark about the seller flipping a $45 cheap print at $1424 is very relevant !! What next, people selling 10 year old £150 Banksy prints for £30K and more ? |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by Lunch Special on Feb 2, 2018 15:00:13 GMT 1, I remember when these dropped. I really wanted one. But started a strict no more giclee policy on buying prints. Sold a bunch of josh Keyes and other giclee’s I had in my collection. I feel the silkscreen process is so much more important to the art opposed to the digital printing machines plus I Never really got into or was a fan of epson or canons art.
I remember when these dropped. I really wanted one. But started a strict no more giclee policy on buying prints. Sold a bunch of josh Keyes and other giclee’s I had in my collection. I feel the silkscreen process is so much more important to the art opposed to the digital printing machines plus I Never really got into or was a fan of epson or canons art.
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by Lunch Special on Feb 2, 2018 15:02:21 GMT 1, So retinas art is very impactful. It’s striking to the eye and intrigues the senses. But is it his persona that fuels his prices.
So retinas art is very impactful. It’s striking to the eye and intrigues the senses. But is it his persona that fuels his prices.
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by touchdowntodd on Feb 2, 2018 15:06:11 GMT 1, He's a total piece of shit.. But we'd likely never know if he didn't tell us daily on ig. Lots of artists are to
I'd love one if price were a little lower, I've honestly seen them sit weeks at 1kusd
He's a total piece of shit.. But we'd likely never know if he didn't tell us daily on ig. Lots of artists are to
I'd love one if price were a little lower, I've honestly seen them sit weeks at 1kusd
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by freezy on Feb 2, 2018 16:02:01 GMT 1, He’s not a great guy... blah blah.
Just for the record I sold one for $1100 a month ago.
He’s not a great guy... blah blah.
Just for the record I sold one for $1100 a month ago.
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by Rouen Cathedral on Feb 2, 2018 17:02:32 GMT 1, Never thought I’d see something worse then a soup can poster selling for 100x it’s worth. Man the art world.
Never thought I’d see something worse then a soup can poster selling for 100x it’s worth. Man the art world.
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by nobokov on Feb 2, 2018 17:41:17 GMT 1, Even knowing his history, I still find his artwork incredibly appealing. In the videos I've seen of him, he seems charismatic and able to articulate his thoughts very well with excitement.
Knowing that Louis CK wants off in front of stunned victims, I still find his jokes funny. Knowing that Woody Allen cheated on his wife with her daughter, I still love his films. Does that render me culpable for their sins?
Even knowing his history, I still find his artwork incredibly appealing. In the videos I've seen of him, he seems charismatic and able to articulate his thoughts very well with excitement.
Knowing that Louis CK wants off in front of stunned victims, I still find his jokes funny. Knowing that Woody Allen cheated on his wife with her daughter, I still love his films. Does that render me culpable for their sins?
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by Coach on Feb 2, 2018 18:08:51 GMT 1, Even knowing his history, I still find his artwork incredibly appealing. In the videos I've seen of him, he seems charismatic and able to articulate his thoughts very well with excitement. Knowing that Louis CK wants off in front of stunned victims, I still find his jokes funny. Knowing that Woody Allen cheated on his wife with her daughter, I still love his films. Does that render me culpable for their sins?
I certainly don’t think such things render you in any way culpable, whatsoever. The issue is whether one can still enjoy any art if one has a reason to dislike the creator. And that, I think, is very much a personal matter.
Even knowing his history, I still find his artwork incredibly appealing. In the videos I've seen of him, he seems charismatic and able to articulate his thoughts very well with excitement. Knowing that Louis CK wants off in front of stunned victims, I still find his jokes funny. Knowing that Woody Allen cheated on his wife with her daughter, I still love his films. Does that render me culpable for their sins? I certainly don’t think such things render you in any way culpable, whatsoever. The issue is whether one can still enjoy any art if one has a reason to dislike the creator. And that, I think, is very much a personal matter. |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by chevyav53 on Feb 2, 2018 18:52:54 GMT 1, Even knowing his history, I still find his artwork incredibly appealing. In the videos I've seen of him, he seems charismatic and able to articulate his thoughts very well with excitement. Knowing that Louis CK wants off in front of stunned victims, I still find his jokes funny. Knowing that Woody Allen cheated on his wife with her daughter, I still love his films. Does that render me culpable for their sins?
Even knowing his history, I still find his artwork incredibly appealing. In the videos I've seen of him, he seems charismatic and able to articulate his thoughts very well with excitement. Knowing that Louis CK wants off in front of stunned victims, I still find his jokes funny. Knowing that Woody Allen cheated on his wife with her daughter, I still love his films. Does that render me culpable for their sins? I feel you, who doesn't love this song.... |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 7:26:57 GMT 1, Never thought I’d see something worse then a soup can poster selling for 100x it’s worth. Man the art world.
And I thought crypto currency was complicated
Well, in regards of prices, there is nothing we can do, this is the law of market. Anyone willing to buy an unsigned small and average quality Canon/Fuji art released at $45 for $1400 and plus, hasn't done his homework, a newbie or lot of money to spent to buy crap. As for seller, they must be enjoying themselves, making profit, if not ripping people's off. As for flipping, I agree flipping was may be inappropriate.
Never thought I’d see something worse then a soup can poster selling for 100x it’s worth. Man the art world. And I thought crypto currency was complicated Well, in regards of prices, there is nothing we can do, this is the law of market. Anyone willing to buy an unsigned small and average quality Canon/Fuji art released at $45 for $1400 and plus, hasn't done his homework, a newbie or lot of money to spent to buy crap. As for seller, they must be enjoying themselves, making profit, if not ripping people's off. As for flipping, I agree flipping was may be inappropriate. |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by Deleted on Feb 5, 2018 7:29:28 GMT 1, Even knowing his history, I still find his artwork incredibly appealing. In the videos I've seen of him, he seems charismatic and able to articulate his thoughts very well with excitement. Knowing that Louis CK wants off in front of stunned victims, I still find his jokes funny. Knowing that Woody Allen cheated on his wife with her daughter, I still love his films. Does that render me culpable for their sins? I certainly don’t think such things render you in any way culpable, whatsoever. The issue is whether one can still enjoy any art if one has a reason to dislike the creator. And that, I think, is very much a personal matter.
Even knowing his history, I still find his artwork incredibly appealing. In the videos I've seen of him, he seems charismatic and able to articulate his thoughts very well with excitement. Knowing that Louis CK wants off in front of stunned victims, I still find his jokes funny. Knowing that Woody Allen cheated on his wife with her daughter, I still love his films. Does that render me culpable for their sins? I certainly don’t think such things render you in any way culpable, whatsoever. The issue is whether one can still enjoy any art if one has a reason to dislike the creator. And that, I think, is very much a personal matter. It is very much a personal matter indeed. And this is why it is important to state it so that buyer can take their decision knowing the facts. There is nothing worse in my opinion than to buy an artwork and have it in your house to realise that the artist is a real d*ck few month after. |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by Coach on Feb 5, 2018 10:31:24 GMT 1, I certainly don’t think such things render you in any way culpable, whatsoever. The issue is whether one can still enjoy any art if one has a reason to dislike the creator. And that, I think, is very much a personal matter. It is very much a personal matter indeed. And this is why it is important to state it so that buyer can take their decision knowing the facts. There is nothing worse in my opinion than to buy an artwork and have it in your house to realise that the artist is a real d*ck few month after.
Generally speaking, provided that what is being said is demonstrably true, then I don’t disagree with you.
I certainly don’t think such things render you in any way culpable, whatsoever. The issue is whether one can still enjoy any art if one has a reason to dislike the creator. And that, I think, is very much a personal matter. It is very much a personal matter indeed. And this is why it is important to state it so that buyer can take their decision knowing the facts. There is nothing worse in my opinion than to buy an artwork and have it in your house to realise that the artist is a real d*ck few month after. Generally speaking, provided that what is being said is demonstrably true, then I don’t disagree with you. |
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by chr1s on Feb 6, 2018 16:31:46 GMT 1, This thread has been hijacked by someones dislike for RETNA's lifestyle and morals. Maybe create your own thread disparaging his character. Or perhaps a thread on morally corrupt artists making great art. RETNA may be a total ass. But the seller is not flipping an overpriced print as has been implied. The print is worth what people are willing to pay.....and like it or not people have been paying north of $1K for this print. The seller should be allowed to list it without having people come sh*t on his thread.
"nothing worse in my opinion than to buy an artwork and have it in your house to realise that the artist is a real d*ck few month after." Really?!?! What about cancer, famine, terrorism. That statement is a bit melodramatic in my opinion. People spending thousands on art probably know about the artist ahead of time, they don't need a lesson on the artist's character or a lecture on morality. Guess what, MICHELANGELO was a complete d*ckhead. CARAVAGGIO was a murderer. PICASSO was a misogynist. People still buy their art...museums still display their work.
Good luck with the sale. If you haven't seen the print in person it really is quite beautiful.
This thread has been hijacked by someones dislike for RETNA's lifestyle and morals. Maybe create your own thread disparaging his character. Or perhaps a thread on morally corrupt artists making great art. RETNA may be a total ass. But the seller is not flipping an overpriced print as has been implied. The print is worth what people are willing to pay.....and like it or not people have been paying north of $1K for this print. The seller should be allowed to list it without having people come sh*t on his thread.
"nothing worse in my opinion than to buy an artwork and have it in your house to realise that the artist is a real d*ck few month after." Really?!?! What about cancer, famine, terrorism. That statement is a bit melodramatic in my opinion. People spending thousands on art probably know about the artist ahead of time, they don't need a lesson on the artist's character or a lecture on morality. Guess what, MICHELANGELO was a complete d*ckhead. CARAVAGGIO was a murderer. PICASSO was a misogynist. People still buy their art...museums still display their work.
Good luck with the sale. If you haven't seen the print in person it really is quite beautiful.
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Retna • Braddock Tiles, by Poster Bob on Feb 6, 2018 20:25:56 GMT 1, Given the ubiquity of social justice and left-wing ideologies at the moment, the last thing I would ever do is invest in a woman-beater. You're just a hop, skip and jump away from auction houses refusing to sell works by artists with tarnished reputations.
Given the ubiquity of social justice and left-wing ideologies at the moment, the last thing I would ever do is invest in a woman-beater. You're just a hop, skip and jump away from auction houses refusing to sell works by artists with tarnished reputations.
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