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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Wenters on Dec 11, 2013 12:59:26 GMT 1, Dear All,
I'm posting this everywhere that the Laminate Media name appears so apologies if you keep seeing it.
I've been having issues with Laminate for the best part of a year and should have know they were trouble when it took forever to get the signed Geddes & Josh Keyes magazines etc before this order.
I paid for 3 x Faile Special Editions back in early December 2012โฆโฆ.long story short after numerous delays and promises of shipping dates etc a package arrived yesterday over a year since my order.
Inside the package was 1x magazine in a badly printed unsigned Faile boxโฆ.and that's itโฆ.I paid ยฃ141 all in for that.
So I kicked off (again) and I also emailed Geddes, Josh Keyes and Faile copying in Laminate so everything was transparent โ I explained the situation and so far Geddes & JK have very kindly replied and without going into too much detail I'm sure both of them will not be working with Laminate againโฆโฆwe also know that there were issues with the Sandra Chevrier release. I have not heard from Faile yet.
Overnight I received a refund for ยฃ94 which covers 2 of my missing orders โ I have asked for a refund of the remaining ยฃ47 + ยฃ10 to send the one I have received back to him in Hull.
As yet he hasn't refunded this amount.
Anybody thinking of ordering from this company needs to think twice โ as do any artist thinking about working with him โ they are going to be exploited for his financial gain.
I've posted on his FaceBook but he just deletes the commentsโฆโฆand yesterday he had to turn off the 'comments' part of his whole FaceBook as I bombarded him and he couldn't keep up!
For anybody else having issues I have his new postal address in Hull which I will forward โ there was a mobile phone number but no surprise that it's unrecognised.
BUYER BEWARE
Dear All,
I'm posting this everywhere that the Laminate Media name appears so apologies if you keep seeing it.
I've been having issues with Laminate for the best part of a year and should have know they were trouble when it took forever to get the signed Geddes & Josh Keyes magazines etc before this order.
I paid for 3 x Faile Special Editions back in early December 2012โฆโฆ.long story short after numerous delays and promises of shipping dates etc a package arrived yesterday over a year since my order.
Inside the package was 1x magazine in a badly printed unsigned Faile boxโฆ.and that's itโฆ.I paid ยฃ141 all in for that.
So I kicked off (again) and I also emailed Geddes, Josh Keyes and Faile copying in Laminate so everything was transparent โ I explained the situation and so far Geddes & JK have very kindly replied and without going into too much detail I'm sure both of them will not be working with Laminate againโฆโฆwe also know that there were issues with the Sandra Chevrier release. I have not heard from Faile yet.
Overnight I received a refund for ยฃ94 which covers 2 of my missing orders โ I have asked for a refund of the remaining ยฃ47 + ยฃ10 to send the one I have received back to him in Hull.
As yet he hasn't refunded this amount.
Anybody thinking of ordering from this company needs to think twice โ as do any artist thinking about working with him โ they are going to be exploited for his financial gain.
I've posted on his FaceBook but he just deletes the commentsโฆโฆand yesterday he had to turn off the 'comments' part of his whole FaceBook as I bombarded him and he couldn't keep up!
For anybody else having issues I have his new postal address in Hull which I will forward โ there was a mobile phone number but no surprise that it's unrecognised.
BUYER BEWARE
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by maxf on Dec 11, 2013 13:16:30 GMT 1, Sorry you've had such a shocking experience. The warnings on the forum over the past few months stopped me from buying the latest(?) offering though - so thanks for putting your experience out there.
Sorry you've had such a shocking experience. The warnings on the forum over the past few months stopped me from buying the latest(?) offering though - so thanks for putting your experience out there.
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by sakyamuni on Dec 11, 2013 13:27:23 GMT 1, sorry to hear another failure from these people. I had one experience with the josh keyes and decided to never again buy from them, even if I ended up receiving what I had ordered. Whatever they might offer I am just not interested. I believe this is the only way to put an end to this company.
sorry to hear another failure from these people. I had one experience with the josh keyes and decided to never again buy from them, even if I ended up receiving what I had ordered. Whatever they might offer I am just not interested. I believe this is the only way to put an end to this company.
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by mj on Dec 11, 2013 14:06:05 GMT 1, Hi wenters, can you please pm their details in hull and faile email so I can write to them also. I am still waiting for my Faile, on suturday I had an email from Laminate saying that they would now send me the unsigned box.wtf My original order a year ago was for a signed magzine, but they offer me the sign one but for extra ยฃ100 on top of what paid. Of course I said no way. So still waiting for the box to be sent to me or my refund debit in my bank.
My comments on their facebook page gets deleted all the time also. DO NOT BUY @ LAMINATE
Hi wenters, can you please pm their details in hull and faile email so I can write to them also. I am still waiting for my Faile, on suturday I had an email from Laminate saying that they would now send me the unsigned box.wtf My original order a year ago was for a signed magzine, but they offer me the sign one but for extra ยฃ100 on top of what paid. Of course I said no way. So still waiting for the box to be sent to me or my refund debit in my bank.
My comments on their facebook page gets deleted all the time also. DO NOT BUY @ LAMINATE
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Deleted on Dec 11, 2013 14:36:21 GMT 1, well done for posting wenters!!
I've had similar experience with laminate I bought the faile box and 2 faile signed editions... been promised its shipping soon for almost a year... still nothing. almost ยฃ300 and paypal can't do anything because its been so long.
i must add i have recieved previous orders from them which were for nothing more than ยฃ40 and tbh a magazine and print signed numbered was not bad for ยฃ40ish.
No reply to emails but i get replies to facebook messages... with the same crap shipping soon.
I'm shocked all these great artists would associate themselves with such a crook, none of us would have ever bought anything from this guy if hush, faile, doze green, eelus, and the list goes on hadn't agreed to making editions with them. i'm fairly confidant most of the artists have been paid because they keep rolling up to make ned editions with laminate.
my advice don't waste your time.
unless you don't value your time and money in that case go crazy buy as much as you can 
well done for posting wenters!! I've had similar experience with laminate I bought the faile box and 2 faile signed editions... been promised its shipping soon for almost a year... still nothing. almost ยฃ300 and paypal can't do anything because its been so long. i must add i have recieved previous orders from them which were for nothing more than ยฃ40 and tbh a magazine and print signed numbered was not bad for ยฃ40ish. No reply to emails but i get replies to facebook messages... with the same crap shipping soon. I'm shocked all these great artists would associate themselves with such a crook, none of us would have ever bought anything from this guy if hush, faile, doze green, eelus, and the list goes on hadn't agreed to making editions with them. i'm fairly confidant most of the artists have been paid because they keep rolling up to make ned editions with laminate. my advice don't waste your time. unless you don't value your time and money in that case go crazy buy as much as you can |
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by noirrion on Dec 11, 2013 14:45:28 GMT 1, Thanks for the information.
Guess I was lucky as I only bought once and the service was okay. But reality seems to be different :/
Thanks for the information.
Guess I was lucky as I only bought once and the service was okay. But reality seems to be different :/
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by murdock on Dec 11, 2013 14:54:22 GMT 1, I never understood why Keyes did/does another edition with them... They must pay their artists in advance it seems.
I never understood why Keyes did/does another edition with them... They must pay their artists in advance it seems.
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Jameszee on Dec 11, 2013 15:07:22 GMT 1, Thanks for keeping the community in the loop wenters!
What a royal pain in the arse they are, I'm steering well clear. Cheers
Thanks for keeping the community in the loop wenters!
What a royal pain in the arse they are, I'm steering well clear. Cheers
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Collection 1 on Dec 11, 2013 15:16:58 GMT 1, I didn't know if laminate paid Faile but they do not pay their artists.Much of the artists that I know are doing this for free!!!!THat's why all the Laminate thing sounds dodggy to me.
I didn't know if laminate paid Faile but they do not pay their artists.Much of the artists that I know are doing this for free!!!!THat's why all the Laminate thing sounds dodggy to me.
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by kbfrombk on Dec 11, 2013 15:18:47 GMT 1, It's weird because it almost sounds like reverse psychology... People posting phony warnings to lessen the interest in these rather prominent artists!!
It sucks that Lam continues to bring in sought-after artists, but the attention Lam has gained (no such thing as bad publicity!) has only served to build Lam's bargaining power with the artists.
Vicious cycle!!!
It's weird because it almost sounds like reverse psychology... People posting phony warnings to lessen the interest in these rather prominent artists!!
It sucks that Lam continues to bring in sought-after artists, but the attention Lam has gained (no such thing as bad publicity!) has only served to build Lam's bargaining power with the artists.
Vicious cycle!!!
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Collection 1 on Dec 11, 2013 15:29:28 GMT 1, yep unfortunately you're right.Much of the artists accept to be featured because Faile and Keyes said yes and it's a kind of honour to be in the same mag but at the end Laminate do almost 10k gbp on the back of the each artist.
yep unfortunately you're right.Much of the artists accept to be featured because Faile and Keyes said yes and it's a kind of honour to be in the same mag but at the end Laminate do almost 10k gbp on the back of the each artist.
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by sakyamuni on Dec 11, 2013 15:47:03 GMT 1, they are always lying. Regarding the latest release with josh keyes, josh was clear: "Both images will be glued to the inside of the box cover, and there is no additional loose print edition included. I would like to see these released either through Tiny Showcase or as a limited edition with my printer. Both The hermit and Migratory Soul are images set aside for print releases"
But on Laminate website, here is what they mention: Special Release - Migratory Soul / The Hermit. The Artworks are not printed on the Box Lid they come separate - with the Art Box and Publication.
They add new pictures, with the image now framed and separated from the boxes, when the previous one where showing the image inside the box cover.
Not sure Josh will agree to sign these as it is completely different from what they had agreed on...
sounds like another scam is on the way...
they are always lying. Regarding the latest release with josh keyes, josh was clear: "Both images will be glued to the inside of the box cover, and there is no additional loose print edition included. I would like to see these released either through Tiny Showcase or as a limited edition with my printer. Both The hermit and Migratory Soul are images set aside for print releases"
But on Laminate website, here is what they mention: Special Release - Migratory Soul / The Hermit. The Artworks are not printed on the Box Lid they come separate - with the Art Box and Publication.
They add new pictures, with the image now framed and separated from the boxes, when the previous one where showing the image inside the box cover.
Not sure Josh will agree to sign these as it is completely different from what they had agreed on...
sounds like another scam is on the way...
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Wenters on Dec 11, 2013 16:02:16 GMT 1, they are always lying. Regarding the latest release with josh keyes, josh was clear: "Both images will be glued to the inside of the box cover, and there is no additional loose print edition included. I would like to see these released either through Tiny Showcase or as a limited edition with my printer. Both The hermit and Migratory Soul are images set aside for print releases" But on Laminate website, here is what they mention: Special Release - Migratory Soul / The Hermit. The Artworks are not printed on the Box Lid they come separate - with the Art Box and Publication. They add new pictures, with the image now framed and separated from the boxes, when the previous one where showing the image inside the box cover. Not sure Josh will agree to sign these as it is completely different from what they had agreed on... sounds like another scam is on the way...
I've made Josh aware of this.
they are always lying. Regarding the latest release with josh keyes, josh was clear: "Both images will be glued to the inside of the box cover, and there is no additional loose print edition included. I would like to see these released either through Tiny Showcase or as a limited edition with my printer. Both The hermit and Migratory Soul are images set aside for print releases" But on Laminate website, here is what they mention: Special Release - Migratory Soul / The Hermit. The Artworks are not printed on the Box Lid they come separate - with the Art Box and Publication. They add new pictures, with the image now framed and separated from the boxes, when the previous one where showing the image inside the box cover. Not sure Josh will agree to sign these as it is completely different from what they had agreed on... sounds like another scam is on the way... He has already signed them......looks like they sent him flat sheets that were supposed to have been folded and glued into boxes but Laminate have trimmed and card framed? I've made Josh aware of this. |
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Deleted on Dec 12, 2013 15:25:43 GMT 1, latest from laminate via facebook message after repeated requests for a refund....
Your faile order had shipped! - We have to go thru the list of orders -and address etc - We are very busy sorting out the orders etc We try to reply emails as quickly as possible.
Thank you LAMINATE
my response
I don't believe you I have been provided with no tracking details please just refund my orders please, I have heard stories already that these boxes are of poor quality and someone else received theirs unsigned.
As you have stated to me many times that I will be sent shipping info when my item ships and I haven't so now to turn around and say it's been shipped is beyond a joke.
I want a refund including postage ASAP I am not interested in your business or products. I cannot make my position any clearer.
i hate laminate!!!
latest from laminate via facebook message after repeated requests for a refund....
Your faile order had shipped! - We have to go thru the list of orders -and address etc - We are very busy sorting out the orders etc We try to reply emails as quickly as possible.
Thank you LAMINATE
my response
I don't believe you I have been provided with no tracking details please just refund my orders please, I have heard stories already that these boxes are of poor quality and someone else received theirs unsigned.
As you have stated to me many times that I will be sent shipping info when my item ships and I haven't so now to turn around and say it's been shipped is beyond a joke.
I want a refund including postage ASAP I am not interested in your business or products. I cannot make my position any clearer.
i hate laminate!!!
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Deleted on Dec 12, 2013 19:51:10 GMT 1, the saga continues....
laminates reply
Firstly the Boxes are not poor quality not in the slightest - The cover are archival giclee printed and put together by hand on White archival board - your copy has been shipped - signed - the Boxes are dropped of at the post office a day or 2 in advance and we collect the Tracking details later today and send them out! Yes one did received their copy and are unhappy because it was unsigned - That was because they ordered the SP edition and the Signed edition is much more expensive.
- we will send you the tracking number in the following mail
my response!!
stop the package because i don't want it. if it has been shipped i will refuse to accept it and ask them to return to the sender, as well as the signed faile box i ordered 2 signed faile laminate editions, there has been no word about these.
as i said i would kindly like a refund for all my orders and that includes shipping. i have been uber patient and i have had enough of dealing with your company.
please just accept this and do the right thing. i also remember the faile box included ยฃ30+ for delivery by courier so i faile to see how you can charge this and the "drop them off at the post office"
refund please. there's a good lad.
the saga continues....
laminates reply
Firstly the Boxes are not poor quality not in the slightest - The cover are archival giclee printed and put together by hand on White archival board - your copy has been shipped - signed - the Boxes are dropped of at the post office a day or 2 in advance and we collect the Tracking details later today and send them out! Yes one did received their copy and are unhappy because it was unsigned - That was because they ordered the SP edition and the Signed edition is much more expensive.
- we will send you the tracking number in the following mail
my response!!
stop the package because i don't want it. if it has been shipped i will refuse to accept it and ask them to return to the sender, as well as the signed faile box i ordered 2 signed faile laminate editions, there has been no word about these.
as i said i would kindly like a refund for all my orders and that includes shipping. i have been uber patient and i have had enough of dealing with your company.
please just accept this and do the right thing. i also remember the faile box included ยฃ30+ for delivery by courier so i faile to see how you can charge this and the "drop them off at the post office"
refund please. there's a good lad.
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Deleted on Dec 12, 2013 20:16:02 GMT 1, I saw some poor sod asking where his Faile boxset was on Laminate's FaceBook page. I added my own comment underneath that Laminate are an awful company and the complaints about them just keep mounting up.
Needless to say I checked the page again a few hours later and my comment had been deleted.
It's almost as if Jason Zenga has been advising Laminate on how to totally screw over their customers.
I saw some poor sod asking where his Faile boxset was on Laminate's FaceBook page. I added my own comment underneath that Laminate are an awful company and the complaints about them just keep mounting up.
Needless to say I checked the page again a few hours later and my comment had been deleted.
It's almost as if Jason Zenga has been advising Laminate on how to totally screw over their customers.
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by morgan on Dec 12, 2013 20:18:44 GMT 1, good luck man.
I just do not understand these guys AT ALL. They have great artists why not make some nice prints be up front and KILL IT!?
I also love their emails where they say something like "seems there was a lot of confusion so hope this clears it up..."
And it ends up being 100x more confusing. I swear these guys have to be the worst business oriented people on earth.
good luck man.
I just do not understand these guys AT ALL. They have great artists why not make some nice prints be up front and KILL IT!?
I also love their emails where they say something like "seems there was a lot of confusion so hope this clears it up..."
And it ends up being 100x more confusing. I swear these guys have to be the worst business oriented people on earth.
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Deleted on Dec 13, 2013 9:51:58 GMT 1, morning bump!!! hope nobody ever uses this company
morning bump!!! hope nobody ever uses this company
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by razorwire on Dec 13, 2013 11:34:44 GMT 1, I just do not understand these guys AT ALL. They have great artists why not make some nice prints be up front and KILL IT!?
That's the puzzling thing- they sell some good stuff from great artists at decent prices, and if that got their act together I'd order a lot more from them and I'm sure others would too. As I'd said before everything I've ordered has turned up, albeit after a lengthy wait, and I've been pleased with it but the more I hear horror stories like yours the less inclined I am to risk another order. If they could ship on time, or at least be honest and upfront with people about delays, and sort their customer service out they could be making an absolute killing, it just doesn't make sense to me.
I just do not understand these guys AT ALL. They have great artists why not make some nice prints be up front and KILL IT!? That's the puzzling thing- they sell some good stuff from great artists at decent prices, and if that got their act together I'd order a lot more from them and I'm sure others would too. As I'd said before everything I've ordered has turned up, albeit after a lengthy wait, and I've been pleased with it but the more I hear horror stories like yours the less inclined I am to risk another order. If they could ship on time, or at least be honest and upfront with people about delays, and sort their customer service out they could be making an absolute killing, it just doesn't make sense to me. |
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by dotdot on Dec 13, 2013 11:49:29 GMT 1, I just do not understand these guys AT ALL. They have great artists why not make some nice prints be up front and KILL IT!? That's the puzzling thing- they sell some good stuff from great artists at decent prices, and if that got their act together I'd order a lot more from them and I'm sure others would too. As I'd said before everything I've ordered has turned up, albeit after a lengthy wait, and I've been pleased with it but the more I hear horror stories like yours the less inclined I am to risk another order. If they could ship on time, or at least be honest and upfront with people about delays, and sort their customer service out they could be making an absolute killing, it just doesn't make sense to me.
that is exactly why they attract people into the 'deal'.
if it looks to go to be true .. you're going to be had.
boycott ! .. JFDI - think of it as a new year's resolution - slightly early.
..where is that thread - it needs an update.
I just do not understand these guys AT ALL. They have great artists why not make some nice prints be up front and KILL IT!? That's the puzzling thing- they sell some good stuff from great artists at decent prices, and if that got their act together I'd order a lot more from them and I'm sure others would too. As I'd said before everything I've ordered has turned up, albeit after a lengthy wait, and I've been pleased with it but the more I hear horror stories like yours the less inclined I am to risk another order. If they could ship on time, or at least be honest and upfront with people about delays, and sort their customer service out they could be making an absolute killing, it just doesn't make sense to me. that is exactly why they attract people into the 'deal'. if it looks to go to be true .. you're going to be had. boycott ! .. JFDI - think of it as a new year's resolution - slightly early. ..where is that thread - it needs an update. |
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Deleted on Dec 13, 2013 15:56:30 GMT 1, just recieved a piss poor box with printed faile signature 100% not hand signed and 2 glossy magazines inside, no prints, no special contents, no signed faile magazines/editions. box lid is much bigger than the box and the images on box have been cut glued on by a 5year old.
I didn't want to accept the package but it wasn't signed service so they would have just left it on the doorstep.
request a refund if your waiting, you do not want this crap trust me!!!
just recieved a piss poor box with printed faile signature 100% not hand signed and 2 glossy magazines inside, no prints, no special contents, no signed faile magazines/editions. box lid is much bigger than the box and the images on box have been cut glued on by a 5year old.
I didn't want to accept the package but it wasn't signed service so they would have just left it on the doorstep.
request a refund if your waiting, you do not want this crap trust me!!!
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Deleted on Dec 13, 2013 16:10:17 GMT 1, anyone on facebook please report their page as a scam. hopefully they'll get booted off.
www.facebook.com/pages/LAMINATE-media/192799071287
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Collection 1 on Dec 13, 2013 17:49:50 GMT 1, Do you mind posting pics of the box and mag?I really want to see the poor quality of the product.
Do you mind posting pics of the box and mag?I really want to see the poor quality of the product. |
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Deleted on Dec 13, 2013 18:28:36 GMT 1, send me your email please and i will send pics. no idea how to upload pics here.
send me your email please and i will send pics. no idea how to upload pics here.
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by student42 on Dec 13, 2013 18:42:03 GMT 1, You can upload the pictures to any picture hosting website and then use the text editor (use the reply button not the quick reply on the bottom) and there is a button that allows you to link a picture with the website URL.
I am interested to see the box set as well.
You can upload the pictures to any picture hosting website and then use the text editor (use the reply button not the quick reply on the bottom) and there is a button that allows you to link a picture with the website URL.
I am interested to see the box set as well.
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Collection 1 on Dec 13, 2013 20:44:09 GMT 1, 
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Collection 1 on Dec 13, 2013 20:45:37 GMT 1, 
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Collection 1 on Dec 13, 2013 20:47:42 GMT 1, 
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LAMINATE MEDIA - BUYER & ARTIST BEWARE, by Collection 1 on Dec 13, 2013 20:49:52 GMT 1, 
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