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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by Wearology on May 18, 2016 17:19:15 GMT 1, The item was over sold and the refund / over sold e-mails have started to arrive. I just got my rejection e-mail. The streak continues !!!!! Sometimes these things are not meant to be When I have streaks like this i find having 2 weeks in Barbados with the money I have saved gives me a different outlook on things, but hey. thats just me :-)
The item was over sold and the refund / over sold e-mails have started to arrive. I just got my rejection e-mail. The streak continues !!!!! Sometimes these things are not meant to be When I have streaks like this i find having 2 weeks in Barbados with the money I have saved gives me a different outlook on things, but hey. thats just me :-) The streak has been going on for a few years now, so maybe it is just a higher power trying to control my addiction. |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by Hairbland on May 18, 2016 17:32:34 GMT 1, I don't really get Stik as an artist but obviously a great guy, have aired this in the past  . Haven't ever tried to buy a print and won't be in the future but I do keep away from things that don't interest me on here now. I would love one of these but it's just not going to happen. The main three types of punter on this thread are, those that have the money and love OS Gemeos also want to buy but are a little worried about the ROI at some point later. Flippers looking for a quick big buck. People that can't afford it so just run it/them down. All talked up/down in different methods, happens all too much now. Far too much money involved for a signed print hardly anyone has seen. Also people just thinking.. Errr wtf ha
And some entertained by the dialogue. They are not my thing, but this seems like a beautiful piece. ROI for fans and flippers would seem to be solid. But at this point not really urban art, or if urban art then urban art co-opted by collectors and investors. I do think the 99 Prints concept exists to feed this market.
I don't really get Stik as an artist but obviously a great guy, have aired this in the past . Haven't ever tried to buy a print and won't be in the future but I do keep away from things that don't interest me on here now. I would love one of these but it's just not going to happen. The main three types of punter on this thread are, those that have the money and love OS Gemeos also want to buy but are a little worried about the ROI at some point later. Flippers looking for a quick big buck. People that can't afford it so just run it/them down. All talked up/down in different methods, happens all too much now. Far too much money involved for a signed print hardly anyone has seen. Also people just thinking.. Errr wtf ha And some entertained by the dialogue. They are not my thing, but this seems like a beautiful piece. ROI for fans and flippers would seem to be solid. But at this point not really urban art, or if urban art then urban art co-opted by collectors and investors. I do think the 99 Prints concept exists to feed this market. |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by rgc on May 18, 2016 17:41:04 GMT 1, I was trying to justify this as I love their work but can't. To put this into perspective for me... 3 years ago I bought a 98 color screen print that took nearly 2 years to produce. The artist is a RCA with MBE for services to art and was in the same class as Hockney it cost £800. This just seems to be to hard to justify. Will look nice framed is not enough for me..sorry but i feel this is more wolf of wall Street territory.
Wow, he must use slow drying paint?
I was trying to justify this as I love their work but can't. To put this into perspective for me... 3 years ago I bought a 98 color screen print that took nearly 2 years to produce. The artist is a RCA with MBE for services to art and was in the same class as Hockney it cost £800. This just seems to be to hard to justify. Will look nice framed is not enough for me..sorry but i feel this is more wolf of wall Street territory. Wow, he must use slow drying paint? |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by mpow on May 18, 2016 17:49:20 GMT 1, Print details including bright reds will surely pop on the wall. Classic imagery from the twins with those patterned shirts, faces jumping out of the pockets. Quality will be top notch from the lithograph process. I can see how the image is not for everyone... but not everyone would want an expensive squigly Peanuts character from Kaws either
Print details including bright reds will surely pop on the wall. Classic imagery from the twins with those patterned shirts, faces jumping out of the pockets. Quality will be top notch from the lithograph process. I can see how the image is not for everyone... but not everyone would want an expensive squigly Peanuts character from Kaws either
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by ABC on May 18, 2016 18:23:43 GMT 1, I was trying to justify this as I love their work but can't. To put this into perspective for me... 3 years ago I bought a 98 color screen print that took nearly 2 years to produce. The artist is a RCA with MBE for services to art and was in the same class as Hockney it cost £800. This just seems to be to hard to justify. Will look nice framed is not enough for me..sorry but i feel this is more wolf of wall Street territory. Wow, he must use slow drying paint?
Haha yes..and very fussy apparently
I was trying to justify this as I love their work but can't. To put this into perspective for me... 3 years ago I bought a 98 color screen print that took nearly 2 years to produce. The artist is a RCA with MBE for services to art and was in the same class as Hockney it cost £800. This just seems to be to hard to justify. Will look nice framed is not enough for me..sorry but i feel this is more wolf of wall Street territory. Wow, he must use slow drying paint? Haha yes..and very fussy apparently |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by DrWhite on May 18, 2016 18:38:28 GMT 1,
I wasn't moved enough to buy one of these prints - but I look forward to seeing them framed up when they start arriving - well done to all those who picked one up.
A white box frame would of been my choice ...
I wasn't moved enough to buy one of these prints - but I look forward to seeing them framed up when they start arriving - well done to all those who picked one up.
A white box frame would of been my choice ...
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by mla on May 18, 2016 18:41:32 GMT 1, I'm surprised at the amount of criticism. Textbook Os Gemeos imagery and an absolute masterpiece compared to some of the shit that gets pumped around here.
I'm surprised at the amount of criticism. Textbook Os Gemeos imagery and an absolute masterpiece compared to some of the shit that gets pumped around here.
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by Deleted on May 18, 2016 18:54:43 GMT 1, I got one question will a print you spent 5K on that 99 other people own be worth anything in the next 5-10 years? and why spend that much money on a print oppossed to the original canvas? im not trying to offend anyone I just dont understand why would a person spend that much on piece of paper.
I got one question will a print you spent 5K on that 99 other people own be worth anything in the next 5-10 years? and why spend that much money on a print oppossed to the original canvas? im not trying to offend anyone I just dont understand why would a person spend that much on piece of paper.
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by therivler1 on May 18, 2016 18:56:40 GMT 1, technically, if you buy it, only 98 other people have it 
and show me an Os G canvas of that size for that price, and I will gladly buy it instead.
technically, if you buy it, only 98 other people have it and show me an Os G canvas of that size for that price, and I will gladly buy it instead. |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by scarylarry on May 18, 2016 18:57:11 GMT 1, I like the print. I just can't afford to spend 6k on it. Im not going to sit here and act like the print isn't good, I just can't afford it lol
I like the print. I just can't afford to spend 6k on it. Im not going to sit here and act like the print isn't good, I just can't afford it lol
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by mpow on May 18, 2016 18:58:58 GMT 1, I'm surprised at the amount of criticism. Textbook Os Gemeos imagery and an absolute masterpiece compared to some of the s**t that gets pumped around here.
I'm surprised at the amount of criticism. Textbook Os Gemeos imagery and an absolute masterpiece compared to some of the s**t that gets pumped around here. Completely agree...not every print needs a rainbow to excite this crowd. Only second print (198 total) from the twins and the details are incredible. They're likely not releasing much else affordable in the future. |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by Feral Things on May 18, 2016 19:01:22 GMT 1, here's a question. Is art meant to be pretty?
The thing that I love the most about Os Gêmeos' work is that it shows real people living real lives, with all the awkwardness and imperfections that entails. Personally, the muralists that paint pieces featuring women that conform to the stereotypical idea of beauty do nothing for me; they feel soulless and I have no connection with these works. Although Os Gêmeos' characters might be yellow and stylised they feel far more human and more real to me. They have obviously painted plenty of 'pretty' subjects but my favourite canvas of theirs is of a newly married couple; he's got a mono-brow and she's on the dumpy-side. They might not be the 'prettiest' couple but they positively ooze love and commitment and it's an incredible painting...unfortunately, I can't find a photo of it right now and this is as close as I could find.
Incidentally, Os Gêmeos took part in an exhibition in Manchester back in 2004 and the works that were sold were flipped straight away; unsurprisingly, they were less than pleased! I wish these prints were more affordable too but unfortunately the reason they aren't (and one of the reasons why they haven't had a UK exhibition since) is the minority of people who have perpetuated this culture of flipping ever since.
here's a question. Is art meant to be pretty? Nope! It's the ugly horror of Goya's etchings and Francis Bacon's paintings that convey their messages and make them so brilliantly, compelling. The thing that I love the most about Os Gêmeos' work is that it shows real people living real lives, with all the awkwardness and imperfections that entails. Personally, the muralists that paint pieces featuring women that conform to the stereotypical idea of beauty do nothing for me; they feel soulless and I have no connection with these works. Although Os Gêmeos' characters might be yellow and stylised they feel far more human and more real to me. They have obviously painted plenty of 'pretty' subjects but my favourite canvas of theirs is of a newly married couple; he's got a mono-brow and she's on the dumpy-side. They might not be the 'prettiest' couple but they positively ooze love and commitment and it's an incredible painting...unfortunately, I can't find a photo of it right now and this is as close as I could find. Incidentally, Os Gêmeos took part in an exhibition in Manchester back in 2004 and the works that were sold were flipped straight away; unsurprisingly, they were less than pleased! I wish these prints were more affordable too but unfortunately the reason they aren't (and one of the reasons why they haven't had a UK exhibition since) is the minority of people who have perpetuated this culture of flipping ever since. |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by docean on May 18, 2016 19:01:24 GMT 1, they're having a show in NYC later this year.
my source says very likely another print. no indication of image or price.
they're having a show in NYC later this year.
my source says very likely another print. no indication of image or price.
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by gravity1 on May 18, 2016 19:24:53 GMT 1, And in 3rd place for the 3rd grade art contest....
And in 3rd place for the 3rd grade art contest.... |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by Deleted on May 18, 2016 19:25:59 GMT 1, technically, if you buy it, only 98 other people have it and show me an Os G canvas of that size for that price, and I will gladly buy it instead.
sold on this site and elsewhere is mind boggling to me but 6K for a piece of paper with a
signature is insanity. prints don't not have the substance a canvas does.
nor the value on a resale. for me as an artist you shouldn't place yourself in a bracket
where only one class of people can buy your work. even Picasso made pieces affordable
to the less fortunate.
technically, if you buy it, only 98 other people have it and show me an Os G canvas of that size for that price, and I will gladly buy it instead. Don't get me wrong the twins are REAL ARTIST. compared to a lot of what i see being sold on this site and elsewhere is mind boggling to me but 6K for a piece of paper with a signature is insanity. prints don't not have the substance a canvas does. nor the value on a resale. for me as an artist you shouldn't place yourself in a bracket where only one class of people can buy your work. even Picasso made pieces affordable to the less fortunate. |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by eschiff on May 18, 2016 19:27:47 GMT 1, they're having a show in NYC later this year. my source says very likely another print. no indication of image or price.
I've seen the work from the show and its stunning. All was priced between 120k and 250k and now is sold out. I wasn't told about a print but not saying there won't be.
I think this print is extraordinary. I think the twins are the most successful artists to come from South America in some time. Anyone who has spent time in Brazil will surely have seen their work everywhere. And for those saying its a yellow cartoon need to do some research. Its traditional Brazilian folk imagery.
Recently their canvasses at auction have done quite well so to question their market seems at best naive and at worst bitter. Sure, it's weird not to release the image beforehand but arguing about price comes down to arguing about individual circumstances.
they're having a show in NYC later this year. my source says very likely another print. no indication of image or price. I've seen the work from the show and its stunning. All was priced between 120k and 250k and now is sold out. I wasn't told about a print but not saying there won't be. I think this print is extraordinary. I think the twins are the most successful artists to come from South America in some time. Anyone who has spent time in Brazil will surely have seen their work everywhere. And for those saying its a yellow cartoon need to do some research. Its traditional Brazilian folk imagery. Recently their canvasses at auction have done quite well so to question their market seems at best naive and at worst bitter. Sure, it's weird not to release the image beforehand but arguing about price comes down to arguing about individual circumstances. |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by sin on May 18, 2016 19:35:04 GMT 1, I got one question will a print you spent 5K on that 99 other people own be worth anything in the next 5-10 years? and why spend that much money on a print oppossed to the original canvas? im not trying to offend anyone I just dont understand why would a person spend that much on piece of paper.
question 1
no one know, no one ever knows, people guess, sometimes they are right and other times they are wrong.
like gambling, if you are buying art with money you need, its probably the wrong place for you to spend money. do i personally think the twins are a safe enough bet, yes. i have my own set of rules for these decisions, however, since I rarely sell anything, the short term economic value doesnt mean a lot to me and the long term economic value to me isnt that big of a concern either.
there are a slew of prints that are worth far more now than they were 5 - 10 years ago. so the question here is would a print by the twins follow that trend. id say that it holding its value is likely, but as i said its speculation at best.
question 2.
trust me, if i could afford a canvas by Os Gemeous Id buy one. However that ship has long sailed for me. Buying this print allowed me to have something by them, that I like, in my collection. i could buy originals by other artists for the same price, but ultimately, be it paper, canvas, etc, most art is worth in raw materials a slight slight fraction of its cost.
I got one question will a print you spent 5K on that 99 other people own be worth anything in the next 5-10 years? and why spend that much money on a print oppossed to the original canvas? im not trying to offend anyone I just dont understand why would a person spend that much on piece of paper. question 1 no one know, no one ever knows, people guess, sometimes they are right and other times they are wrong. like gambling, if you are buying art with money you need, its probably the wrong place for you to spend money. do i personally think the twins are a safe enough bet, yes. i have my own set of rules for these decisions, however, since I rarely sell anything, the short term economic value doesnt mean a lot to me and the long term economic value to me isnt that big of a concern either. there are a slew of prints that are worth far more now than they were 5 - 10 years ago. so the question here is would a print by the twins follow that trend. id say that it holding its value is likely, but as i said its speculation at best. question 2. trust me, if i could afford a canvas by Os Gemeous Id buy one. However that ship has long sailed for me. Buying this print allowed me to have something by them, that I like, in my collection. i could buy originals by other artists for the same price, but ultimately, be it paper, canvas, etc, most art is worth in raw materials a slight slight fraction of its cost. |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by sin on May 18, 2016 19:36:11 GMT 1, And in 3rd place for the 3rd grade art contest....
Dont forget, Cy Twombly get the same shade and his piece are prominently held is the most prestigious institutions in the world.
And in 3rd place for the 3rd grade art contest.... Dont forget, Cy Twombly get the same shade and his piece are prominently held is the most prestigious institutions in the world. |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by Petrusino on May 18, 2016 19:38:03 GMT 1, I know, for some people 7200 euro is nothing. I understand those people that already have in their home three or four Banksy prints, a big painting by Futura, a pair of originals by Swoon, maybe some Kaws too, others by Retna, etc etc. but if you does not already own this type of valuable art in your home this print is absolutely a crazy purchase....it's like buying stocks when they have reached the top of their value; not the best investment you could have done imo. Better to invest on some originals
I know, for some people 7200 euro is nothing. I understand those people that already have in their home three or four Banksy prints, a big painting by Futura, a pair of originals by Swoon, maybe some Kaws too, others by Retna, etc etc. but if you does not already own this type of valuable art in your home this print is absolutely a crazy purchase....it's like buying stocks when they have reached the top of their value; not the best investment you could have done imo. Better to invest on some originals
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by mla on May 18, 2016 19:43:52 GMT 1, Maybe stop looking at art as if it were an investment?
There are much safer places to put your money if you are looking to truly invest.
Maybe stop looking at art as if it were an investment?
There are much safer places to put your money if you are looking to truly invest.
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by Deleted on May 18, 2016 19:44:56 GMT 1, I got one question will a print you spent 5K on that 99 other people own be worth anything in the next 5-10 years? and why spend that much money on a print oppossed to the original canvas? im not trying to offend anyone I just dont understand why would a person spend that much on piece of paper. question 1 no one know, no one ever knows, people guess, sometimes they are right and other times they are wrong. like gambling, if you are buying art with money you need, its probably the wrong place for you to spend money. do i personally think the twins are a safe enough bet, yes. i have my own set of rules for these decisions, however, since I rarely sell anything, the short term economic value doesnt mean a lot to me and the long term economic value to me isnt that big of a concern either. there are a slew of prints that are worth far more now than they were 5 - 10 years ago. so the question here is would a print by the twins follow that trend. id say that it holding its value is likely, but as i said its speculation at best. question 2. trust me, if i could afford a canvas by Os Gemeous Id buy one. However that ship has long sailed for me. Buying this print allowed me to have something by them, that I like, in my collection. i could buy originals by other artists for the same price, but ultimately, be it paper, canvas, etc, most art is worth in raw materials a slight slight fraction of its cost.
I can digg what you saying whole heartily. I wouldnt say its a slew of prints but there are
prints out there that are worth more than they were at press some of it i wouldnt even consider art
but thats my opinion and for another thread.
I got one question will a print you spent 5K on that 99 other people own be worth anything in the next 5-10 years? and why spend that much money on a print oppossed to the original canvas? im not trying to offend anyone I just dont understand why would a person spend that much on piece of paper. question 1 no one know, no one ever knows, people guess, sometimes they are right and other times they are wrong. like gambling, if you are buying art with money you need, its probably the wrong place for you to spend money. do i personally think the twins are a safe enough bet, yes. i have my own set of rules for these decisions, however, since I rarely sell anything, the short term economic value doesnt mean a lot to me and the long term economic value to me isnt that big of a concern either. there are a slew of prints that are worth far more now than they were 5 - 10 years ago. so the question here is would a print by the twins follow that trend. id say that it holding its value is likely, but as i said its speculation at best. question 2. trust me, if i could afford a canvas by Os Gemeous Id buy one. However that ship has long sailed for me. Buying this print allowed me to have something by them, that I like, in my collection. i could buy originals by other artists for the same price, but ultimately, be it paper, canvas, etc, most art is worth in raw materials a slight slight fraction of its cost. I can digg what you saying whole heartily. I wouldnt say its a slew of prints but there are prints out there that are worth more than they were at press some of it i wouldnt even consider art but thats my opinion and for another thread. |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by alexbristol on May 18, 2016 19:45:31 GMT 1, I've always thought the banksy collab from better out then in would make a wonderful screenprint. 0% chance of that happening but a fan can dream!
I'm with you on that the Image was outstanding I'm guessing this print will be near enough impossible to get my grubby mitts on
I've always thought the banksy collab from better out then in would make a wonderful screenprint. 0% chance of that happening but a fan can dream! I'm with you on that the Image was outstanding I'm guessing this print will be near enough impossible to get my grubby mitts on |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by FЯ on May 18, 2016 19:54:44 GMT 1, Makes me laugh everytime someone refers to them as the twins like they are mates with them.
personally everytime says 'the twins' im reminded of a pair of boobs.
Makes me laugh everytime someone refers to them as the twins like they are mates with them.
personally everytime says 'the twins' im reminded of a pair of boobs.
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by Lroy on May 18, 2016 19:55:05 GMT 1, This is charity...
This is charity...
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by sakyamuni on May 18, 2016 19:55:35 GMT 1, back to art... found this picture I took from their show in Milano in 2010 if I remember right...
back to art... found this picture I took from their show in Milano in 2010 if I remember right...
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by Lroy on May 18, 2016 19:57:54 GMT 1, Maybe stop looking at art as if it were an investment? There are much safer places to put your money if you are looking to truly invest.
yeah buy Royston a roman Villa in WSM with view on the sea...
Maybe stop looking at art as if it were an investment? There are much safer places to put your money if you are looking to truly invest. yeah buy Royston a roman Villa in WSM with view on the sea... |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by Lroy on May 18, 2016 19:58:31 GMT 1, back to art... found this picture I took from their show in Milano in 2010 if I remember right...
thats good !
back to art... found this picture I took from their show in Milano in 2010 if I remember right...
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by eschiff on May 18, 2016 20:01:54 GMT 1, Makes me laugh everytime someone refers to them as the twins like they are mates with them. personally everytime says 'the twins' im reminded of a pair of boobs.
Makes me laugh every time someone tries to flog a googley eyed fish as art so glad we can amuse each other.
Makes me laugh everytime someone refers to them as the twins like they are mates with them. personally everytime says 'the twins' im reminded of a pair of boobs. Makes me laugh every time someone tries to flog a googley eyed fish as art so glad we can amuse each other. |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by Deleted on May 18, 2016 20:02:27 GMT 1, Maybe stop looking at art as if it were an investment? There are much safer places to put your money if you are looking to truly invest.
Im an artist and have been since i can remember. I live to paint I don't paint to live.
many artist paint to live. A true artist will give you their work just for the appreciation of it.
no matter how big his/her name is. I acquired a serious collection that way.
My personal opinion buy what you like and try to establish a relationship with the artist
you support. You acquire better and more original pieces that way. A real artist values
his collectors more than he values his work.
Maybe stop looking at art as if it were an investment? There are much safer places to put your money if you are looking to truly invest. its funny you say that because most not all collectors say they buy art as an investment. Im an artist and have been since i can remember. I live to paint I don't paint to live. many artist paint to live. A true artist will give you their work just for the appreciation of it. no matter how big his/her name is. I acquired a serious collection that way. My personal opinion buy what you like and try to establish a relationship with the artist you support. You acquire better and more original pieces that way. A real artist values his collectors more than he values his work. |
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OS Gemeos 🇧🇷 São Paulo Graffiti • Brazil Street Art, by Eric Pause on May 18, 2016 20:04:22 GMT 1, Makes me laugh everytime someone refers to them as the twins like they are mates with them. personally everytime says 'the twins' im reminded of a pair of boobs.
Makes me laugh everytime someone refers to them as the twins like they are mates with them. personally everytime says 'the twins' im reminded of a pair of boobs. "Os Gêmeos" is just "The Twins" in Portuguese. I find it easier to say in English than comically mispronouncing it in Portuguese. |
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. Haven't ever tried to buy a print and won't be in the future but I do keep away from things that don't interest me on here now. 
