Winter
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Winter on Jan 29, 2014 16:46:29 GMT 1, That Koons will fly. A very large piece and a small edition
That Koons will fly. A very large piece and a small edition
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thisisanton
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by thisisanton on Jan 29, 2014 16:46:47 GMT 1, Just got a refund. Order 117 Now I have money to buy a new computer, which is probably more important. I'm praying I don't get refunded! I was so thrilled to pick up one of these.... If you got a backorder status you'll have a good chance of getting a refund.
Just got a refund. Order 117 Now I have money to buy a new computer, which is probably more important. I'm praying I don't get refunded! I was so thrilled to pick up one of these.... If you got a backorder status you'll have a good chance of getting a refund.
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sal
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by sal on Jan 29, 2014 16:48:55 GMT 1, muti Petrusino The prints sold out in minutes, there are hundreds of people ready to pay a lot more for them, and you're still going on about em being too pricey?!? How the hell does your logic work?!?
You are entitled to your opinion and that is fine, but the facts and the common sense that majority of inhabitants on this planet are using, are against it.
muti Petrusino The prints sold out in minutes, there are hundreds of people ready to pay a lot more for them, and you're still going on about em being too pricey?!? How the hell does your logic work?!? You are entitled to your opinion and that is fine, but the facts and the common sense that majority of inhabitants on this planet are using, are against it.
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alittle
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by alittle on Jan 29, 2014 16:51:10 GMT 1, Who is willing to pay "a lot" more? As far as I know, we haven't seen any sell yet, nor have we seen anyone put up a big offer.
Who is willing to pay "a lot" more? As far as I know, we haven't seen any sell yet, nor have we seen anyone put up a big offer.
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poofer
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by poofer on Jan 29, 2014 16:53:18 GMT 1, I really want one of these... Still bummed I got refunded.
Order 113 was not a winner
I really want one of these... Still bummed I got refunded.
Order 113 was not a winner
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kbfrombk
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by kbfrombk on Jan 29, 2014 16:54:25 GMT 1, JUST CAUGHT UP WITH THE RECENT 3 PAGES OF THIS AND I HAVE A SOUR TASTE IN MY MOUTH.
JUST CAUGHT UP WITH THE RECENT 3 PAGES OF THIS AND I HAVE A SOUR TASTE IN MY MOUTH.
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Happy Shopper on Jan 29, 2014 16:55:06 GMT 1, muti Petrusino The prints sold out in minutes, there are hundreds of people ready to pay a lot more for them, and you're still going on about em being too pricey?!? How the hell does your logic work?!? You are entitled to your opinion and that is fine, but the facts and the common sense that majority of inhabitants on this planet are using, are against it. As much as this is completely true (clearly the demand and cash was there for it), there is also the phenomenon in this scene where prints sell out from source but then struggle to sell on the secondary market for cost.
On a cheaper scale it happens with Mondo releases on a weekly basis (even signed versions on the artist's own websites fail to sell so quickly)... Some new Faile releases, etc.
Obviously we'll have to wait see what happens with this one!... Was the demand true, and is the demand so strong that people will pay more???
muti Petrusino The prints sold out in minutes, there are hundreds of people ready to pay a lot more for them, and you're still going on about em being too pricey?!? How the hell does your logic work?!? You are entitled to your opinion and that is fine, but the facts and the common sense that majority of inhabitants on this planet are using, are against it. As much as this is completely true (clearly the demand and cash was there for it), there is also the phenomenon in this scene where prints sell out from source but then struggle to sell on the secondary market for cost. On a cheaper scale it happens with Mondo releases on a weekly basis (even signed versions on the artist's own websites fail to sell so quickly)... Some new Faile releases, etc. Obviously we'll have to wait see what happens with this one!... Was the demand true, and is the demand so strong that people will pay more???
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lifeonwalls
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by lifeonwalls on Jan 29, 2014 16:59:43 GMT 1, Ah, the classic Koons to Os Gemeos comparison. Very similar artists. Whats next? Hirst print pricing comparison? Oh, yeah. Haha, seriously. Some people are grasping at straws to try and make their inherently weak "this print isn't worth it" argument try and stick...when people who bought the print because they like the artists and the image couldn't care less about you trying to talk value down.
I'm sure plenty of those who are trying to make that point would have LOVED to buy this at $1k-2k so they could have a tidy profit, well sorry that Os Gemeos cut you out of the loop on this one.
Just let it go....
Ah, the classic Koons to Os Gemeos comparison. Very similar artists. Whats next? Hirst print pricing comparison? Oh, yeah. Haha, seriously. Some people are grasping at straws to try and make their inherently weak "this print isn't worth it" argument try and stick...when people who bought the print because they like the artists and the image couldn't care less about you trying to talk value down. I'm sure plenty of those who are trying to make that point would have LOVED to buy this at $1k-2k so they could have a tidy profit, well sorry that Os Gemeos cut you out of the loop on this one. Just let it go....
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 17:01:04 GMT 1, When the f**k did people start comparing Os Gemeos to Jeff Koons? This is a street art forum - f**k off to artchival if you want to look at s**t photos of a ribbon, your f**king off your rocker if you think looking at a s**t print of ribbon signed by some old geezer is comparable to 2 of the most talent artists out there. Also Jeff Koons has been going for 30+ years and backed by the stuffiest, most pretentious, greediest, narcacistic, collectors and art galleries on this planet.
Get some perspective or better still go out and look at some street art!!! For many on here,who were lucky enough to buy one, they are happy to pay 4000 euros for an Os Gemeos print, coz they really want to own a piece of their world. Kill this thread - it's done!!!
When the f**k did people start comparing Os Gemeos to Jeff Koons? This is a street art forum - f**k off to artchival if you want to look at s**t photos of a ribbon, your f**king off your rocker if you think looking at a s**t print of ribbon signed by some old geezer is comparable to 2 of the most talent artists out there. Also Jeff Koons has been going for 30+ years and backed by the stuffiest, most pretentious, greediest, narcacistic, collectors and art galleries on this planet.
Get some perspective or better still go out and look at some street art!!! For many on here,who were lucky enough to buy one, they are happy to pay 4000 euros for an Os Gemeos print, coz they really want to own a piece of their world. Kill this thread - it's done!!!
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Petrusino
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Petrusino on Jan 29, 2014 17:02:22 GMT 1, muti Petrusino The prints sold out in minutes, there are hundreds of people ready to pay a lot more for them, and you're still going on about em being too pricey?!? How the hell does your logic work?!? You are entitled to your opinion and that is fine, but the facts and the common sense that majority of inhabitants on this planet are using, are against it. I'm just a little pissed off Sal; Because street art is born in the street, but then some street artists seems to forget this, Seems to forget all the supporters who have pushed them from the street to the top. This was their first release and they could put a lower price and larger editions, for all the supporters out there ... For example, how Faile does with all his various editions that meet all kind of pockets. 4k for their first print release is an insult ... if they want to become "The koons brothers" is normal for me doing a comparison with the real J koons.
muti Petrusino The prints sold out in minutes, there are hundreds of people ready to pay a lot more for them, and you're still going on about em being too pricey?!? How the hell does your logic work?!? You are entitled to your opinion and that is fine, but the facts and the common sense that majority of inhabitants on this planet are using, are against it. I'm just a little pissed off Sal; Because street art is born in the street, but then some street artists seems to forget this, Seems to forget all the supporters who have pushed them from the street to the top. This was their first release and they could put a lower price and larger editions, for all the supporters out there ... For example, how Faile does with all his various editions that meet all kind of pockets. 4k for their first print release is an insult ... if they want to become "The koons brothers" is normal for me doing a comparison with the real J koons.
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 17:03:46 GMT 1, JUST CAUGHT UP WITH THE RECENT 3 PAGES OF THIS AND I HAVE A SOUR TASTE IN MY MOUTH. Keep your sexual proclivities out of this forum please!
JUST CAUGHT UP WITH THE RECENT 3 PAGES OF THIS AND I HAVE A SOUR TASTE IN MY MOUTH. Keep your sexual proclivities out of this forum please!
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muti
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by muti on Jan 29, 2014 17:04:16 GMT 1, Ah, the classic Koons to Os Gemeos comparison. Very similar artists. Whats next? Hirst print pricing comparison? Oh, yeah. Haha, seriously. Some people are grasping at straws to try and make their inherently weak "this print isn't worth it" argument try and stick...when people who bought the print because they like the artists and the image couldn't care less about you trying to talk value down. I'm sure plenty of those who are trying to make that point would have LOVED to buy this at $1k-2k so they could have a tidy profit, well sorry that Os Gemeos cut you out of the loop on this one. Just let it go.... You can get Hirst's new print called 'dead black brilliant utopia' for ยฃ6k at Other Criteria ;-)
Ah, the classic Koons to Os Gemeos comparison. Very similar artists. Whats next? Hirst print pricing comparison? Oh, yeah. Haha, seriously. Some people are grasping at straws to try and make their inherently weak "this print isn't worth it" argument try and stick...when people who bought the print because they like the artists and the image couldn't care less about you trying to talk value down. I'm sure plenty of those who are trying to make that point would have LOVED to buy this at $1k-2k so they could have a tidy profit, well sorry that Os Gemeos cut you out of the loop on this one. Just let it go.... You can get Hirst's new print called 'dead black brilliant utopia' for ยฃ6k at Other Criteria ;-)
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Prescription Art
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Prescription Art on Jan 29, 2014 17:04:39 GMT 1, I'm praying I don't get refunded! I was so thrilled to pick up one of these.... I bet you are.......along with every other gallery on here that will no doubt make a killing.
I'm a fan and collector first and foremost.
I have no intention of selling this. I've very rarely sold anything from my walls.
I'm praying I don't get refunded! I was so thrilled to pick up one of these.... I bet you are.......along with every other gallery on here that will no doubt make a killing. I'm a fan and collector first and foremost. I have no intention of selling this. I've very rarely sold anything from my walls.
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Prescription Art
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Prescription Art on Jan 29, 2014 17:06:30 GMT 1, I'm praying I don't get refunded! I was so thrilled to pick up one of these.... If you got a backorder status you'll have a good chance of getting a refund. Everything seems to have gone through... there's no mention of a backorder status. Fingers crossed!
I'm praying I don't get refunded! I was so thrilled to pick up one of these.... If you got a backorder status you'll have a good chance of getting a refund. Everything seems to have gone through... there's no mention of a backorder status. Fingers crossed!
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eschiff
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by eschiff on Jan 29, 2014 17:09:03 GMT 1, muti Petrusino The prints sold out in minutes, there are hundreds of people ready to pay a lot more for them, and you're still going on about em being too pricey?!? How the hell does your logic work?!? You are entitled to your opinion and that is fine, but the facts and the common sense that majority of inhabitants on this planet are using, are against it. I'm just a little pissed off Sal; Because street art is born in the street, but then some street artists seems to forget this, Seems to forget all the supporters who have pushed them from the street to the top. This was their first release and they could put a lower price and larger editions, for all the supporters out there ... For example, how Faile does with all his various editions that meet all kind of pockets. 4k for their first print release is an insult ... if they want to become "The koons brothers" is normal for me doing a comparison with the real J koons. c'mon...the people on the street pushed them to the top? No. Incorrect. They did a lot of hard work and some well connected galleries pushed them to the top. The people snapping pics on instagram? C'mon.
i love the sense of entitlement people have. I can't afford it/don't like the image/etc so they're selling out and have forgotten about the little people. Jeez.
muti Petrusino The prints sold out in minutes, there are hundreds of people ready to pay a lot more for them, and you're still going on about em being too pricey?!? How the hell does your logic work?!? You are entitled to your opinion and that is fine, but the facts and the common sense that majority of inhabitants on this planet are using, are against it. I'm just a little pissed off Sal; Because street art is born in the street, but then some street artists seems to forget this, Seems to forget all the supporters who have pushed them from the street to the top. This was their first release and they could put a lower price and larger editions, for all the supporters out there ... For example, how Faile does with all his various editions that meet all kind of pockets. 4k for their first print release is an insult ... if they want to become "The koons brothers" is normal for me doing a comparison with the real J koons. c'mon...the people on the street pushed them to the top? No. Incorrect. They did a lot of hard work and some well connected galleries pushed them to the top. The people snapping pics on instagram? C'mon. i love the sense of entitlement people have. I can't afford it/don't like the image/etc so they're selling out and have forgotten about the little people. Jeez.
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Dice
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Dice on Jan 29, 2014 17:13:47 GMT 1, Bought, back ordered, and now refunded. I was 113. Reckon I would have got one if I'd paid on PayPal instead of faffing with their archaic system, live and learn...
Bought, back ordered, and now refunded. I was 113. Reckon I would have got one if I'd paid on PayPal instead of faffing with their archaic system, live and learn...
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muti
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by muti on Jan 29, 2014 17:14:42 GMT 1, muti Petrusino The prints sold out in minutes, there are hundreds of people ready to pay a lot more for them, and you're still going on about em being too pricey?!? How the hell does your logic work?!? You are entitled to your opinion and that is fine, but the facts and the common sense that majority of inhabitants on this planet are using, are against it. You are right, if these went on sale for ยฃ10k I am sure they would sell. I suppose my issue is that most folk fell into the hype which is exactly what 99 prints wanted. Would love to have been a fly on the wall when they were discussing price point and what they thought was too expensive. I am also maybe a bit old school in the way I like to see what I am buying for ยฃ4k
muti Petrusino The prints sold out in minutes, there are hundreds of people ready to pay a lot more for them, and you're still going on about em being too pricey?!? How the hell does your logic work?!? You are entitled to your opinion and that is fine, but the facts and the common sense that majority of inhabitants on this planet are using, are against it. You are right, if these went on sale for ยฃ10k I am sure they would sell. I suppose my issue is that most folk fell into the hype which is exactly what 99 prints wanted. Would love to have been a fly on the wall when they were discussing price point and what they thought was too expensive. I am also maybe a bit old school in the way I like to see what I am buying for ยฃ4k
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 17:15:12 GMT 1, Have we ever had the debate ( or a thread ) about who pays for these artists to paint walls around the world?While certain paint manufacturers may 'sponsor' certain artists there are huge costs involved in travelling etc.
If money raised from the sale of this print enables the brothers to travel and paint then so be it.
I'm familiar with the networks set up to help bands on tour etc. Is it similar? i.e mates offering floors and food.
Have we ever had the debate ( or a thread ) about who pays for these artists to paint walls around the world?While certain paint manufacturers may 'sponsor' certain artists there are huge costs involved in travelling etc.
If money raised from the sale of this print enables the brothers to travel and paint then so be it.
I'm familiar with the networks set up to help bands on tour etc. Is it similar? i.e mates offering floors and food.
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by maxf on Jan 29, 2014 17:17:30 GMT 1, Bought, back ordered, and now refunded. I was 113. Reckon I would have got one if I'd paid on PayPal instead of faffing with their archaic system, live and learn... Sorry to hear that. Their system was a joke - why wait to register an account until the time of the drop? Madness.
Bought, back ordered, and now refunded. I was 113. Reckon I would have got one if I'd paid on PayPal instead of faffing with their archaic system, live and learn... Sorry to hear that. Their system was a joke - why wait to register an account until the time of the drop? Madness.
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Happy Shopper on Jan 29, 2014 17:18:44 GMT 1, i love the sense of entitlement people have. I can't afford it/don't like the image/etc so they're selling out and have forgotten about the little people. Jeez. It's the eternal street art conundrum isn't it!
I have to say I feel a little sick when I see Os Gemeos and JR all chummy with the rich and famous, releasing and supporting โฌ4K prints in the middle of a global recession, while their art is about the little people, rebels, and the poorest in society (OG less so, but certainly JR).
It's a bit... "difficult", no?
i love the sense of entitlement people have. I can't afford it/don't like the image/etc so they're selling out and have forgotten about the little people. Jeez. It's the eternal street art conundrum isn't it! I have to say I feel a little sick when I see Os Gemeos and JR all chummy with the rich and famous, releasing and supporting โฌ4K prints in the middle of a global recession, while their art is about the little people, rebels, and the poorest in society (OG less so, but certainly JR). It's a bit... "difficult", no?
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kbfrombk
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by kbfrombk on Jan 29, 2014 17:19:08 GMT 1, I'm just a little pissed off Sal; Because street art is born in the street, but then some street artists seems to forget this, Seems to forget all the supporters who have pushed them from the street to the top. This was their first release and they could put a lower price and larger editions, for all the supporters out there ... For example, how Faile does with all his various editions that meet all kind of pockets. 4k for their first print release is an insult ... if they want to become "The koons brothers" is normal for me doing a comparison with the real J koons. c'mon...the people on the street pushed them to the top? No. Incorrect. They did a lot of hard work and some well connected galleries pushed them to the top. The people snapping pics on instagram? C'mon. i love the sense of entitlement people have. I can't afford it/don't like the image/etc so they're selling out and have forgotten about the little people. Jeez. Faile is TWO dudes; FYI. Street art is born in the street sure, but unless you live in a favela in Rio, the only reason **I** have been able to see the work is by the collaborative efforts and skill between, of course, OsG and connected ART people pushing them out into the world, signing up commissioned walls worldwide (for which I have to feel like they are paid quite nicely), sponsoring trips here and there, etc.. In my eyes this print release IS their way of NOT forgetting "all the supporters who have pushed them from the street to the top". They probably grew tired of only having their canvases sell in the six-digit currency zones. Maybe they said to each other (and in exact synchronization because they're twins and twins do strange things as such), "you know it might be rather gracious if we were to organize a high-quality lithograph release to be sold to anyone with a computer and a bank account/credit card(!!), to change it up from the typically intangible super-elite VIP twerps who usually have the only access to our work".
Perhaps, a bit more unlikely but you never know, they said "well, Banksy released that heart balloon on barbed wire for [??] ยฃ50,000 to only VIPs/special people, so maybe we can keep ours a bit more realistic for the populous in general".
I'm just a little pissed off Sal; Because street art is born in the street, but then some street artists seems to forget this, Seems to forget all the supporters who have pushed them from the street to the top. This was their first release and they could put a lower price and larger editions, for all the supporters out there ... For example, how Faile does with all his various editions that meet all kind of pockets. 4k for their first print release is an insult ... if they want to become "The koons brothers" is normal for me doing a comparison with the real J koons. c'mon...the people on the street pushed them to the top? No. Incorrect. They did a lot of hard work and some well connected galleries pushed them to the top. The people snapping pics on instagram? C'mon. i love the sense of entitlement people have. I can't afford it/don't like the image/etc so they're selling out and have forgotten about the little people. Jeez. Faile is TWO dudes; FYI. Street art is born in the street sure, but unless you live in a favela in Rio, the only reason **I** have been able to see the work is by the collaborative efforts and skill between, of course, OsG and connected ART people pushing them out into the world, signing up commissioned walls worldwide (for which I have to feel like they are paid quite nicely), sponsoring trips here and there, etc.. In my eyes this print release IS their way of NOT forgetting "all the supporters who have pushed them from the street to the top". They probably grew tired of only having their canvases sell in the six-digit currency zones. Maybe they said to each other (and in exact synchronization because they're twins and twins do strange things as such), "you know it might be rather gracious if we were to organize a high-quality lithograph release to be sold to anyone with a computer and a bank account/credit card(!!), to change it up from the typically intangible super-elite VIP twerps who usually have the only access to our work". Perhaps, a bit more unlikely but you never know, they said "well, Banksy released that heart balloon on barbed wire for [??] ยฃ50,000 to only VIPs/special people, so maybe we can keep ours a bit more realistic for the populous in general".
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Petrusino
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Petrusino on Jan 29, 2014 17:20:36 GMT 1, c'mon...the people on the street pushed them to the top? No. Incorrect. They did a lot of hard work and some well connected galleries pushed them to the top. The people snapping pics on instagram? C'mon. i love the sense of entitlement people have. I can't afford it/don't like the image/etc so they're selling out and have forgotten about the little people. Jeez. Ok...ok... anyway J Koons has sold a single work for $53 MILLIONS and sells his prints at the same price of the twins, but with an edition that is an half! Congratulations to those who think to have done a super INVESTMENT yesterday. OG love you Peace
c'mon...the people on the street pushed them to the top? No. Incorrect. They did a lot of hard work and some well connected galleries pushed them to the top. The people snapping pics on instagram? C'mon. i love the sense of entitlement people have. I can't afford it/don't like the image/etc so they're selling out and have forgotten about the little people. Jeez. Ok...ok... anyway J Koons has sold a single work for $53 MILLIONS and sells his prints at the same price of the twins, but with an edition that is an half! Congratulations to those who think to have done a super INVESTMENT yesterday. OG love you Peace
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Deleted on Jan 29, 2014 17:24:45 GMT 1, muti Petrusino The prints sold out in minutes, there are hundreds of people ready to pay a lot more for them, and you're still going on about em being too pricey?!? How the hell does your logic work?!? You are entitled to your opinion and that is fine, but the facts and the common sense that majority of inhabitants on this planet are using, are against it. You are right, if these went on sale for ยฃ10k I am sure they would sell. I suppose my issue is that most folk fell into the hype which is exactly what 99 prints wanted. Would love to have been a fly on the wall when they were discussing price point and what they thought was too expensive. I am also maybe a bit old school in the way I like to see what I am buying for ยฃ4k You don't need to be a fly on the wall to know their reasoning - it was priced to deter the flippers. Hence why only 2 have appeared on eBay and both remain unsold. If they were anything between the 500-2000 euros bracket more would be up for sale and a completely different conversation would be taking place.
muti Petrusino The prints sold out in minutes, there are hundreds of people ready to pay a lot more for them, and you're still going on about em being too pricey?!? How the hell does your logic work?!? You are entitled to your opinion and that is fine, but the facts and the common sense that majority of inhabitants on this planet are using, are against it. You are right, if these went on sale for ยฃ10k I am sure they would sell. I suppose my issue is that most folk fell into the hype which is exactly what 99 prints wanted. Would love to have been a fly on the wall when they were discussing price point and what they thought was too expensive. I am also maybe a bit old school in the way I like to see what I am buying for ยฃ4k You don't need to be a fly on the wall to know their reasoning - it was priced to deter the flippers. Hence why only 2 have appeared on eBay and both remain unsold. If they were anything between the 500-2000 euros bracket more would be up for sale and a completely different conversation would be taking place.
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by love on Jan 29, 2014 17:25:08 GMT 1, 34 pages...
34 pages... Haha that's what the print is about. For almost all of you!
34 pages...
34 pages... Haha that's what the print is about. For almost all of you!
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eschiff
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by eschiff on Jan 29, 2014 17:25:41 GMT 1, i love the sense of entitlement people have. I can't afford it/don't like the image/etc so they're selling out and have forgotten about the little people. Jeez. It's the eternal street art conundrum isn't it! I have to say I feel a little sick when I see Os Gemeos and JR all chummy with the rich and famous, releasing and supporting โฌ4K prints in the middle of a global recession, while their art is about the little people, rebels, and the poorest in society (OG less so, but certainly JR). It's a bit... "difficult", no? Yeah, i know what you're saying but that feels a bit like begrudging people for being successful. Would we rather they live in squats and keep it real? Maybe?
i love the sense of entitlement people have. I can't afford it/don't like the image/etc so they're selling out and have forgotten about the little people. Jeez. It's the eternal street art conundrum isn't it! I have to say I feel a little sick when I see Os Gemeos and JR all chummy with the rich and famous, releasing and supporting โฌ4K prints in the middle of a global recession, while their art is about the little people, rebels, and the poorest in society (OG less so, but certainly JR). It's a bit... "difficult", no? Yeah, i know what you're saying but that feels a bit like begrudging people for being successful. Would we rather they live in squats and keep it real? Maybe?
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alittle
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by alittle on Jan 29, 2014 17:26:34 GMT 1, You are right, if these went on sale for ยฃ10k I am sure they would sell. I suppose my issue is that most folk fell into the hype which is exactly what 99 prints wanted. Would love to have been a fly on the wall when they were discussing price point and what they thought was too expensive. I am also maybe a bit old school in the way I like to see what I am buying for ยฃ4k You don't need to be a fly on the wall to know their reasoning - it was priced to deter the flippers. Hence why only 2 have appeared on eBay and both remain unsold. If they were anything between the 500-2000 euros bracket more would be up for sale and a completely different conversation would be taking place. Agreed. I think they priced these right. Don't think they left much on the bone for a speculator looking to make a quick buck though.
You are right, if these went on sale for ยฃ10k I am sure they would sell. I suppose my issue is that most folk fell into the hype which is exactly what 99 prints wanted. Would love to have been a fly on the wall when they were discussing price point and what they thought was too expensive. I am also maybe a bit old school in the way I like to see what I am buying for ยฃ4k You don't need to be a fly on the wall to know their reasoning - it was priced to deter the flippers. Hence why only 2 have appeared on eBay and both remain unsold. If they were anything between the 500-2000 euros bracket more would be up for sale and a completely different conversation would be taking place. Agreed. I think they priced these right. Don't think they left much on the bone for a speculator looking to make a quick buck though.
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eschiff
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by eschiff on Jan 29, 2014 17:27:36 GMT 1, 34 pages... 34 pages... Haha that's what the print is about. For almost all of you! every read a banksy thread?
Listen, 4k is a lot for most, but if bloody dotdotdot or phlegm or dal put prints at that price they'd never sell. Why? Because they don't have a market for it, they release too much and frankly aren't that good of artists.
To be honest, the people talking about the money aspect are the ones that didn't get it like yourself!
34 pages... 34 pages... Haha that's what the print is about. For almost all of you! every read a banksy thread? Listen, 4k is a lot for most, but if bloody dotdotdot or phlegm or dal put prints at that price they'd never sell. Why? Because they don't have a market for it, they release too much and frankly aren't that good of artists. To be honest, the people talking about the money aspect are the ones that didn't get it like yourself!
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Dungle
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Dungle on Jan 29, 2014 17:28:09 GMT 1, i love the sense of entitlement people have. I can't afford it/don't like the image/etc so they're selling out and have forgotten about the little people. Jeez. It's the eternal street art conundrum isn't it! I have to say I feel a little sick when I see Os Gemeos and JR all chummy with the rich and famous, releasing and supporting โฌ4K prints in the middle of a global recession, while their art is about the little people, rebels, and the poorest in society (OG less so, but certainly JR). It's a bit... "difficult", no? Do you know what they do with their money?
i love the sense of entitlement people have. I can't afford it/don't like the image/etc so they're selling out and have forgotten about the little people. Jeez. It's the eternal street art conundrum isn't it! I have to say I feel a little sick when I see Os Gemeos and JR all chummy with the rich and famous, releasing and supporting โฌ4K prints in the middle of a global recession, while their art is about the little people, rebels, and the poorest in society (OG less so, but certainly JR). It's a bit... "difficult", no? Do you know what they do with their money?
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sal
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by sal on Jan 29, 2014 17:28:22 GMT 1, muti Petrusino The prints sold out in minutes, there are hundreds of people ready to pay a lot more for them, and you're still going on about em being too pricey?!? How the hell does your logic work?!? You are entitled to your opinion and that is fine, but the facts and the common sense that majority of inhabitants on this planet are using, are against it. I'm just a little pissed off Sal; Because street art is born in the street, but then some street artists seems to forget this, Seems to forget all the supporters who have pushed them from the street to the top. This was their first release and they could put a lower price and larger editions, for all the supporters out there ... For example, how Faile does with all his various editions that meet all kind of pockets. 4k for their first print release is an insult ... if they want to become "The koons brothers" is normal for me doing a comparison with the real J koons. That is how your posts sounded between the lines - you WISH it was cheaper. But what you or me wish, and what Os Gemeos, Koons, Murakami, Faile or my drunken neighbor are doing, has NO connection. And trying to make a connection between those two, makes your posts sound silly.
muti Petrusino The prints sold out in minutes, there are hundreds of people ready to pay a lot more for them, and you're still going on about em being too pricey?!? How the hell does your logic work?!? You are entitled to your opinion and that is fine, but the facts and the common sense that majority of inhabitants on this planet are using, are against it. I'm just a little pissed off Sal; Because street art is born in the street, but then some street artists seems to forget this, Seems to forget all the supporters who have pushed them from the street to the top. This was their first release and they could put a lower price and larger editions, for all the supporters out there ... For example, how Faile does with all his various editions that meet all kind of pockets. 4k for their first print release is an insult ... if they want to become "The koons brothers" is normal for me doing a comparison with the real J koons. That is how your posts sounded between the lines - you WISH it was cheaper. But what you or me wish, and what Os Gemeos, Koons, Murakami, Faile or my drunken neighbor are doing, has NO connection. And trying to make a connection between those two, makes your posts sound silly.
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Os Gemeos @99prints, by Happy Shopper on Jan 29, 2014 17:32:20 GMT 1, It's the eternal street art conundrum isn't it! I have to say I feel a little sick when I see Os Gemeos and JR all chummy with the rich and famous, releasing and supporting โฌ4K prints in the middle of a global recession, while their art is about the little people, rebels, and the poorest in society (OG less so, but certainly JR). It's a bit... "difficult", no? Do you know what they do with their money? No idea... maybe they give it all to charity, but if I was them, and that was true, I'd make it more known... as Banksy does. Who tries to handle the same situation. Not that they have to, but it would make the โฌ4k seem worth while... you could feel that they, and you buying, were doing a good thing... All Positive!
It's the eternal street art conundrum isn't it! I have to say I feel a little sick when I see Os Gemeos and JR all chummy with the rich and famous, releasing and supporting โฌ4K prints in the middle of a global recession, while their art is about the little people, rebels, and the poorest in society (OG less so, but certainly JR). It's a bit... "difficult", no? Do you know what they do with their money? No idea... maybe they give it all to charity, but if I was them, and that was true, I'd make it more known... as Banksy does. Who tries to handle the same situation. Not that they have to, but it would make the โฌ4k seem worth while... you could feel that they, and you buying, were doing a good thing... All Positive!
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