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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by curiousgeorge on Apr 6, 2012 14:12:33 GMT 1, Whip it out
Is the moisture coming from shower?
Whip it out
Is the moisture coming from shower?
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Deleted on Apr 6, 2012 14:14:23 GMT 1, Is there anything i can do if a frmae has condensation on the glass? Only had it back for about a week!! Or do i just need to get the print out of the frame NOW? Not seen any do this before so just dont know, and am way worried for the print!
Anyone know anything? Helping out a mate in a panic BUMP!!
Is there anything i can do if a frmae has condensation on the glass? Only had it back for about a week!! Or do i just need to get the print out of the frame NOW? Not seen any do this before so just dont know, and am way worried for the print! Anyone know anything? Helping out a mate in a panic BUMP!! |
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Mister Frame Man on Apr 6, 2012 14:15:52 GMT 1, Perhaps remove the tape from the back and and loosen the pins.
Place in a room which has stable temperature (no moisture).
The moisture must be coming from somehere? Shower? Damp wall?
Perhaps remove the tape from the back and and loosen the pins.
Place in a room which has stable temperature (no moisture).
The moisture must be coming from somehere? Shower? Damp wall?
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by xmyart on Apr 6, 2012 14:16:24 GMT 1, Nope definatly not from the shower. All i can think is it was hung on a wall that it turns out gets quite cold for some reason. But thats the only thing i can think of. Not sure why that ould cause condensation though.
Looks like its going to be expensive whatever way! No way to avoid stripping it then george?
Nope definatly not from the shower. All i can think is it was hung on a wall that it turns out gets quite cold for some reason. But thats the only thing i can think of. Not sure why that ould cause condensation though.
Looks like its going to be expensive whatever way! No way to avoid stripping it then george?
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by curiousgeorge on Apr 6, 2012 14:32:04 GMT 1, Taking the back off and getting the print away from the glass would be the first thing to do, and it's no hardship to do this and have put back in at a later date
Can't see a framer charging more than £10 to put it back tape and pin once you know where the damp is coming from. Is it on an internal or external wall?
Taking the back off and getting the print away from the glass would be the first thing to do, and it's no hardship to do this and have put back in at a later date
Can't see a framer charging more than £10 to put it back tape and pin once you know where the damp is coming from. Is it on an internal or external wall?
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by xmyart on Apr 6, 2012 14:40:04 GMT 1, Yeah funny you say that. Turns out to be backed on to the flat next door for 3/4 of it then god dam external where the print was hanging :-(
Had telephone diagnosis with MFM and have taken the tape off the back in the hope it will release the moisture, so will see in a few hours.
Cheers for the help all.
And top service MFM didnt think youd even be around!
Yeah funny you say that. Turns out to be backed on to the flat next door for 3/4 of it then god dam external where the print was hanging :-(
Had telephone diagnosis with MFM and have taken the tape off the back in the hope it will release the moisture, so will see in a few hours.
Cheers for the help all.
And top service MFM didnt think youd even be around!
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by rperry on Apr 6, 2012 15:30:44 GMT 1, Yikes, hope you work it out mate. I guess that explains the difficulty you had with the Blek piece.
Yikes, hope you work it out mate. I guess that explains the difficulty you had with the Blek piece.
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by xmyart on Apr 6, 2012 15:45:07 GMT 1, as it goes nope!! Im pretty sure i know what it was now, but the Blek was somewhere else altogether.
as it goes nope!! Im pretty sure i know what it was now, but the Blek was somewhere else altogether.
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by mrtee on Apr 6, 2012 16:32:58 GMT 1, Sounds to me like you have a high relative humidity (RH) in your place. The humid air condensates on the glass because it meets the dew point. The cold wall also cools the glass.
Dew point is the temperature at which air reaches saturation moisture content and moisture condenses.
You could try to improve the ventilation, turn up the heat. That makes the RH lower. Put some spacers between the wall and the frame, that would make glass warmer.
Sounds to me like you have a high relative humidity (RH) in your place. The humid air condensates on the glass because it meets the dew point. The cold wall also cools the glass.
Dew point is the temperature at which air reaches saturation moisture content and moisture condenses.
You could try to improve the ventilation, turn up the heat. That makes the RH lower. Put some spacers between the wall and the frame, that would make glass warmer.
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by xmyart on Apr 6, 2012 16:59:13 GMT 1, Odd thing being apart from the waaaaaafer thin Blek piece this is the only thing ive had issues with!! had another print up there for months. This one however is also looking much happier thank MFM.
Condensation is now all gone from the glass and the slight rippling looks to be just settling back. Thankfully ll it took was to remove the tape from the back of the frame and let the moisture escape. McFucking Phew!!!
Odd thing being apart from the waaaaaafer thin Blek piece this is the only thing ive had issues with!! had another print up there for months. This one however is also looking much happier thank MFM.
Condensation is now all gone from the glass and the slight rippling looks to be just settling back. Thankfully ll it took was to remove the tape from the back of the frame and let the moisture escape. McFucking Phew!!!
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Finsbury on Apr 9, 2012 21:53:51 GMT 1, Jeez man, just seen this, hope the prints made it ok. I remember the flap on i had when i left the faile against the radiator and later turning the heating on and forgetting all about it...oh dear! Luckily i caught it just in time and its fine now..a close one though.
Jeez man, just seen this, hope the prints made it ok. I remember the flap on i had when i left the faile against the radiator and later turning the heating on and forgetting all about it...oh dear! Luckily i caught it just in time and its fine now..a close one though.
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by xmyart on Apr 9, 2012 22:27:01 GMT 1, Good news is that i tink i got this just at the right time as well. Its got rid of all the condensation and the ripples are nearly gone as well. By the looks of it i could get away with it too. Thanks to some MFM help it didnt involve taking it out of the frame. Would have done it if i didnt get advice but glad i didnt have too.
Good news is that i tink i got this just at the right time as well. Its got rid of all the condensation and the ripples are nearly gone as well. By the looks of it i could get away with it too. Thanks to some MFM help it didnt involve taking it out of the frame. Would have done it if i didnt get advice but glad i didnt have too.
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Deleted on May 19, 2013 22:55:25 GMT 1, Hi,
Just looking at a few old threads on hanging art over radiators and radiator covers have been mentioned as something that can help protect it.
Has anyone else here used these? Do they help to protect pictures hanging above them? I'm really running out of wall space and there's a prime location in my bedroom.....right above a radiator!!
Hi,
Just looking at a few old threads on hanging art over radiators and radiator covers have been mentioned as something that can help protect it.
Has anyone else here used these? Do they help to protect pictures hanging above them? I'm really running out of wall space and there's a prime location in my bedroom.....right above a radiator!!
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Deleted on May 20, 2013 18:19:12 GMT 1, Anyone??
Anyone??
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Feral Things on May 20, 2013 18:55:29 GMT 1, I shouldn't imagine that radiator covers would offer any protection to art work hung above the radiators. They're designed to allow the heat to still radiate out and their purpose is purely aesthetic.
I'm sure this will provoke some angry reactions, but I have canvases hung over radiators. I would be far more cautious with works on paper but paintings have been hung over fireplaces for centuries and it doesn't seem to have dulled their owner's enjoyment of the art.
I shouldn't imagine that radiator covers would offer any protection to art work hung above the radiators. They're designed to allow the heat to still radiate out and their purpose is purely aesthetic.
I'm sure this will provoke some angry reactions, but I have canvases hung over radiators. I would be far more cautious with works on paper but paintings have been hung over fireplaces for centuries and it doesn't seem to have dulled their owner's enjoyment of the art.
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Deleted on May 20, 2013 20:24:08 GMT 1, Blimey I'd be too scared to hang a canvas over a radiator. I've looked at covers online and they seem to stop the air coming out of the top of the radiator so I thought they could be quite useful in that aspect.
Blimey I'd be too scared to hang a canvas over a radiator. I've looked at covers online and they seem to stop the air coming out of the top of the radiator so I thought they could be quite useful in that aspect.
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Deleted on May 21, 2013 11:08:36 GMT 1, Hi,
Ok I guess this is a continuation if my last thread but I was wondering what people thought of me trying this out. My prefab Heist has been sprayed on to steel and i wondered if it would be ok over a radiator as obviously it's a lot tougher and more sturdy than a print and there's no paper to crease up.
Has anyone else done this kind of thing?
Hi,
Ok I guess this is a continuation if my last thread but I was wondering what people thought of me trying this out. My prefab Heist has been sprayed on to steel and i wondered if it would be ok over a radiator as obviously it's a lot tougher and more sturdy than a print and there's no paper to crease up.
Has anyone else done this kind of thing?
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Feral Things on May 21, 2013 11:30:26 GMT 1, Sorry, me again. I would probably be a little wary of hanging a piece which is spray paint on metal over a radiator because spray paint is quite 'lean' (i.e. inflexible) compared with, say, oil paint which is more 'fat' (i.e. flexible) consequently it would be less tolerant to the surface expanding and contracting due to changes in temperature. I would also imagine that metal would expand and contract more that other surfaces.
The above is based more upon the theory of how surfaces and mediums react rather than personal experience of this scenario, so I may be way off track here and at the end of the day I always think its better that a piece is up on a wall being enjoyed than safely stowed away out of sight.
Sorry, me again. I would probably be a little wary of hanging a piece which is spray paint on metal over a radiator because spray paint is quite 'lean' (i.e. inflexible) compared with, say, oil paint which is more 'fat' (i.e. flexible) consequently it would be less tolerant to the surface expanding and contracting due to changes in temperature. I would also imagine that metal would expand and contract more that other surfaces.
The above is based more upon the theory of how surfaces and mediums react rather than personal experience of this scenario, so I may be way off track here and at the end of the day I always think its better that a piece is up on a wall being enjoyed than safely stowed away out of sight.
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by iamzero on May 21, 2013 17:03:57 GMT 1, I would imagine your gonna have to get that steel pretty hot before it even has a little think about expanding? Can't see it being a problem?
I would imagine your gonna have to get that steel pretty hot before it even has a little think about expanding? Can't see it being a problem?
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Deleted on May 22, 2013 0:27:14 GMT 1, Hmm it's a tough one. Maybe I'll just put a cheapie picture that I'm not too worried about there just to be safe.
Hmm it's a tough one. Maybe I'll just put a cheapie picture that I'm not too worried about there just to be safe.
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by jusdeep on May 22, 2013 8:46:01 GMT 1, I wouldn't let it worry you. Like was said before you'd have to get the steel extremely hot for any contraction or expansion to damage the paint.
I wouldn't let it worry you. Like was said before you'd have to get the steel extremely hot for any contraction or expansion to damage the paint.
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Deleted on May 22, 2013 11:20:22 GMT 1, Hmmm ok. Well I'm going to buy a radiator cover today and will see If that helps at all.
Hmmm ok. Well I'm going to buy a radiator cover today and will see If that helps at all.
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by woomas on May 28, 2013 13:22:56 GMT 1, Following a radiator based fail I now have a very small tear in my Applause does anyone have Birmingham based contact details for repairs?
Following a radiator based fail I now have a very small tear in my Applause does anyone have Birmingham based contact details for repairs? |
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Feral Things on May 28, 2013 13:32:02 GMT 1, Really sorry to see this. Last night I rehung the first Banksy I got back in 2002 and having seen your photo I'm now going to double check the screw in the wall and cord on the back.
He's based in London rather than Birmingham but Graham Bignell seems to do excellent restoration work (albeit not always particularly punctually). Good luck!
Really sorry to see this. Last night I rehung the first Banksy I got back in 2002 and having seen your photo I'm now going to double check the screw in the wall and cord on the back.
He's based in London rather than Birmingham but Graham Bignell seems to do excellent restoration work (albeit not always particularly punctually). Good luck!
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Quinnster on May 28, 2013 16:12:06 GMT 1, How was the radiator involved? Was it a trip?
How was the radiator involved? Was it a trip?
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by woomas on May 28, 2013 16:50:02 GMT 1, Massive radiator + massive print = massive shrinkage....
The frame, screws and cord all shrank. This is what results.
Massive radiator + massive print = massive shrinkage....
The frame, screws and cord all shrank. This is what results.
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Patta1 on May 28, 2013 17:19:38 GMT 1, theframers.net/ based In the custard factory birmingham maybe these can help you out mate !!!
theframers.net/ based In the custard factory birmingham maybe these can help you out mate !!!
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Quinnster on May 28, 2013 18:58:33 GMT 1, I had never thought something like that could happen.
I had never thought something like that could happen.
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Finsbury on May 28, 2013 20:02:25 GMT 1, Not in Brum, but i'd get the paper doctor work his magic. grahambignell.co.uk i think. Good luck!
Not in Brum, but i'd get the paper doctor work his magic. grahambignell.co.uk i think. Good luck!
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Art above a Radiator? • Humidity • Condensation , by Finsbury on May 28, 2013 20:09:37 GMT 1, Just noticed feralthings already posted about Graham. Apologies but as said, you won't get much better.
Just noticed feralthings already posted about Graham. Apologies but as said, you won't get much better.
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