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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by Schrรถdinger's Chat on Aug 18, 2016 17:05:02 GMT 1, Okay, thanks for the info. Are they the ones on his FB page?
Okay, thanks for the info. Are they the ones on his FB page?
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by chads007 on Aug 18, 2016 17:09:08 GMT 1, May be wrong, but looks like it's for current mailing list subscribers...so you may have to ask to get on the next list..some nice work available.
May be wrong, but looks like it's for current mailing list subscribers...so you may have to ask to get on the next list..some nice work available.
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by cyberkid on Aug 18, 2016 17:23:13 GMT 1, That's a slightly cryptic message Cyberkid - has he got a load of stuff available? Also the inverted commas suggest that they are not that original.
sorry for misunderstanding. original bisser artworks ! :-)
That's a slightly cryptic message Cyberkid - has he got a load of stuff available? Also the inverted commas suggest that they are not that original. sorry for misunderstanding. original bisser artworks ! :-) |
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by Schrรถdinger's Chat on Aug 18, 2016 19:40:20 GMT 1, Got it, they look really good. Thanks for the tip off.
Got it, they look really good. Thanks for the tip off.
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by rjf76 on Aug 19, 2016 8:07:17 GMT 1, Some nice pieces although I wish he'd removed the prices from the PDF if inviting best offers!!
Some nice pieces although I wish he'd removed the prices from the PDF if inviting best offers!!
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by sakyamuni on Aug 19, 2016 8:32:48 GMT 1, I am not too comfortable with this method of selling his works to be honest... decided to pass because of this, i don't want to enter into this kind of game.
I am not too comfortable with this method of selling his works to be honest... decided to pass because of this, i don't want to enter into this kind of game.
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by rjf76 on Aug 19, 2016 9:09:31 GMT 1, I am not too comfortable with this method of selling his works to be honest... decided to pass because of this, i don't want to enter into this kind of game.
It's no different from the 'pm offers' we get on the 'for sale thread' here........which I personally hate and often pass on.
I am not too comfortable with this method of selling his works to be honest... decided to pass because of this, i don't want to enter into this kind of game. It's no different from the 'pm offers' we get on the 'for sale thread' here........which I personally hate and often pass on. |
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by Dungle on Aug 19, 2016 9:09:46 GMT 1, I am not too comfortable with this method of selling his works to be honest... decided to pass because of this, i don't want to enter into this kind of game.
Agreed. That and the fact that the first email was sent revealing everyone's email addresses and names.
I am not too comfortable with this method of selling his works to be honest... decided to pass because of this, i don't want to enter into this kind of game. Agreed. That and the fact that the first email was sent revealing everyone's email addresses and names. |
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by chads007 on Aug 19, 2016 9:44:31 GMT 1, I think his reasoning was: people get time to have a think, offer on 3 works but one per person, there's no f10 and fastest finger and of course you offer what you wish to pay. So I kinda get that, but understand people not feeling comfortable.
I think his reasoning was: people get time to have a think, offer on 3 works but one per person, there's no f10 and fastest finger and of course you offer what you wish to pay. So I kinda get that, but understand people not feeling comfortable.
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by cyberkid on Aug 19, 2016 9:54:57 GMT 1, Some nice pieces although I wish he'd removed the prices from the PDF if inviting best offers!!
yeah, bit strange. its maybe the minimum price...?!
Some nice pieces although I wish he'd removed the prices from the PDF if inviting best offers!! yeah, bit strange. its maybe the minimum price...?! |
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by chads007 on Aug 19, 2016 9:57:39 GMT 1, Think they were guide prices (I think).
Also, when people complain that things are priced too high or low for artists, I think this helps set prices based on demand
Think they were guide prices (I think).
Also, when people complain that things are priced too high or low for artists, I think this helps set prices based on demand
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by sakyamuni on Aug 19, 2016 10:00:29 GMT 1, I am not too comfortable with this method of selling his works to be honest... decided to pass because of this, i don't want to enter into this kind of game. Agreed. That and the fact that the first email was sent revealing everyone's email addresses and names. 
I am not too comfortable with this method of selling his works to be honest... decided to pass because of this, i don't want to enter into this kind of game. Agreed. That and the fact that the first email was sent revealing everyone's email addresses and names. I thought the same. I am sure he had good intentions but the result is a bit too clumsy for me... I guess i'll wait for a more suitable sale in the future... or not |
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by Geezer Mate on Aug 19, 2016 10:18:00 GMT 1, I think it's a Bollocks way of selling
I think it's a Bollocks way of selling
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by jayTown on Aug 19, 2016 11:01:16 GMT 1, Not sure what the fuss is about, i think it's a great way of doing it. And the fact that he's selling direct means you cut out the middle man.
I bought a canvas from him last time and it was super simple.
Not sure what the fuss is about, i think it's a great way of doing it. And the fact that he's selling direct means you cut out the middle man.
I bought a canvas from him last time and it was super simple.
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by chads007 on Aug 19, 2016 14:13:49 GMT 1, Another option would have been for people to choose the 3 they like and to have had a lottery system with the prices shown in the pdf so no blind bidding, which obviously relies more on trust and highest price wins
Another option would have been for people to choose the 3 they like and to have had a lottery system with the prices shown in the pdf so no blind bidding, which obviously relies more on trust and highest price wins
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by rjf76 on Aug 19, 2016 15:18:39 GMT 1, Not sure what the fuss is about, i think it's a great way of doing it. And the fact that he's selling direct means you cut out the middle man. I bought a canvas from him last time and it was super simple.
Totally agree with cutting the middleman but 'highest offer'? Just set the price and either first come first serve or lottery as suggested.
No big fuss! 
Not sure what the fuss is about, i think it's a great way of doing it. And the fact that he's selling direct means you cut out the middle man. I bought a canvas from him last time and it was super simple. Totally agree with cutting the middleman but 'highest offer'? Just set the price and either first come first serve or lottery as suggested. No big fuss! |
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by jayTown on Aug 19, 2016 20:17:34 GMT 1, Not sure what the fuss is about, i think it's a great way of doing it. And the fact that he's selling direct means you cut out the middle man. I bought a canvas from him last time and it was super simple. Totally agree with cutting the middleman but 'highest offer'? Just set the price and either first come first serve or lottery as suggested. No big fuss!
I think it's fair enough. Gives everyone an opportunity to make a bid for what they think it's worth. Isn't that the fairest way to do it? His prices are only guide prices, it's no different to how we buy and sell on here.
Not sure what the fuss is about, i think it's a great way of doing it. And the fact that he's selling direct means you cut out the middle man. I bought a canvas from him last time and it was super simple. Totally agree with cutting the middleman but 'highest offer'? Just set the price and either first come first serve or lottery as suggested. No big fuss! I think it's fair enough. Gives everyone an opportunity to make a bid for what they think it's worth. Isn't that the fairest way to do it? His prices are only guide prices, it's no different to how we buy and sell on here. |
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by winston on Aug 19, 2016 20:38:21 GMT 1, Works fine... Better than through a galley who offer them
To all the favourite customers first and take a big cut
Win / Win
Works fine... Better than through a galley who offer them
To all the favourite customers first and take a big cut
Win / Win
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by chads007 on Aug 21, 2016 18:26:10 GMT 1, Anyone secure a work..
Anyone secure a work..
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by rjf76 on Aug 21, 2016 19:06:20 GMT 1, The old 'waiting game'......
SaveSave
The old 'waiting game'...... SaveSave |
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by chads007 on Aug 21, 2016 20:00:41 GMT 1, The old 'waiting game'...... SaveSave
Yes
The old 'waiting game'...... SaveSaveYes |
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by Geezer Mate on Aug 21, 2016 20:45:26 GMT 1, Good to see capitalism is still alive and well, basically the richest will get what they want, it's obvious, a lottery would have been fairer in my opinion
Good to see capitalism is still alive and well, basically the richest will get what they want, it's obvious, a lottery would have been fairer in my opinion
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by Winks on Aug 21, 2016 21:07:42 GMT 1, Reckon those who were successful would have heard and are being given the opportunity to pay.
Suppose my โฌ100 bid was a no go
Reckon those who were successful would have heard and are being given the opportunity to pay.
Suppose my โฌ100 bid was a no go
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by Geezer Mate on Aug 21, 2016 21:25:45 GMT 1, If people on the forum invite offers for pieces they get slated, so why is that wrong and this OK?
If people on the forum invite offers for pieces they get slated, so why is that wrong and this OK?
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by BKBOI on Aug 22, 2016 4:24:00 GMT 1, If people on the forum invite offers for pieces they get slated, so why is that wrong and this OK?
Because people in the FS thread are selling to the public. Bisser sent out this email to people in his mailing list. Think best thing is to unsubscribe if you find the practice distasteful. In all honesty, I also find the practice just wrong. Name a price and state if it is firm or negotiable.
If people on the forum invite offers for pieces they get slated, so why is that wrong and this OK? Because people in the FS thread are selling to the public. Bisser sent out this email to people in his mailing list. Think best thing is to unsubscribe if you find the practice distasteful. In all honesty, I also find the practice just wrong. Name a price and state if it is firm or negotiable. |
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by d.r. perseus on Aug 22, 2016 6:52:13 GMT 1, If people on the forum invite offers for pieces they get slated, so why is that wrong and this OK? Because people in the For Sale thread are selling to the public. Bisser sent out this email to people in his mailing list. Think best thing is to unsubscribe if you find the practice distasteful. In all honesty, I also find the practice just wrong. Name a price and state if it is firm or negotiable.
Did you unsubscribe?
I appreciate the process as he sets the prices really low (and many of us get a chance at a piece we really like), vs when posters are all acting like giddy little insiders as they have access to something others desire with an inside look and making a point of saying so on the message boards.......
A lot of complaining about distasteful things around here while people act with no grace or class. (not saying you do that, btw)
But removing all that...dude is just trying to figure out how to make his art accessible to people.
If people on the forum invite offers for pieces they get slated, so why is that wrong and this OK? Because people in the For Sale thread are selling to the public. Bisser sent out this email to people in his mailing list. Think best thing is to unsubscribe if you find the practice distasteful. In all honesty, I also find the practice just wrong. Name a price and state if it is firm or negotiable. Did you unsubscribe? I appreciate the process as he sets the prices really low (and many of us get a chance at a piece we really like), vs when posters are all acting like giddy little insiders as they have access to something others desire with an inside look and making a point of saying so on the message boards....... A lot of complaining about distasteful things around here while people act with no grace or class. (not saying you do that, btw) But removing all that...dude is just trying to figure out how to make his art accessible to people. |
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by Geezer Mate on Aug 22, 2016 8:16:13 GMT 1, I'm sorry for my comments I know he is trying to do good and I appreciate it and it is special if you get one, but in all honesty a lottery would be fairer but it's his work and I suppose he can do what he feels right with it, I personally feel u comfatable with bidding, but on the other hand I just love his work and it gives me pleasure to look at ( not in a weird way) Ha!
I'm sorry for my comments I know he is trying to do good and I appreciate it and it is special if you get one, but in all honesty a lottery would be fairer but it's his work and I suppose he can do what he feels right with it, I personally feel u comfatable with bidding, but on the other hand I just love his work and it gives me pleasure to look at ( not in a weird way) Ha!
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by Winks on Aug 22, 2016 8:54:05 GMT 1, Because people in the For Sale thread are selling to the public. Bisser sent out this email to people in his mailing list. Think best thing is to unsubscribe if you find the practice distasteful. In all honesty, I also find the practice just wrong. Name a price and state if it is firm or negotiable. Did you unsubscribe? I appreciate the process as he sets the prices really low (and many of us get a chance at a piece we really like), vs when posters are all acting like giddy little insiders as they have access to something others desire with an inside look and making a point of saying so on the message boards....... ย A lot of complaining about distasteful things around here while people act with no grace or class. (not saying you do that, btw) But removing all that...dude is just trying to figure out how to make his art accessible to people.
Surely there are tried and tested ways to make art accessible to real fans. Offering a blind bidding process followed by a further bid if you match high bids says only one thing to me. I expect an artist to have an idea of where he values his work. He's been on the scene long enough.
Because people in the For Sale thread are selling to the public. Bisser sent out this email to people in his mailing list. Think best thing is to unsubscribe if you find the practice distasteful. In all honesty, I also find the practice just wrong. Name a price and state if it is firm or negotiable. Did you unsubscribe? I appreciate the process as he sets the prices really low (and many of us get a chance at a piece we really like), vs when posters are all acting like giddy little insiders as they have access to something others desire with an inside look and making a point of saying so on the message boards....... ย A lot of complaining about distasteful things around here while people act with no grace or class. (not saying you do that, btw) But removing all that...dude is just trying to figure out how to make his art accessible to people. Surely there are tried and tested ways to make art accessible to real fans. Offering a blind bidding process followed by a further bid if you match high bids says only one thing to me. I expect an artist to have an idea of where he values his work. He's been on the scene long enough. |
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by Winks on Aug 22, 2016 8:57:40 GMT 1, .. And for the record I haven't unsubscribed. I want some more Bisser work regardless of the process required to get it.
.. And for the record I haven't unsubscribed. I want some more Bisser work regardless of the process required to get it.
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Bisser ๐ง๐ช Belgium Street Art โข Print Release News, by chads007 on Aug 22, 2016 10:30:27 GMT 1, Must also remember he's young and we all make mistakes..he has been checking this thread. Obviously with some of his print releases with galleries and some of the issues there etx, he's wanted to start another approach with selling periodically directly to fans. I think a lottery approach would have had better intention, and I wouldn't be surprised if he switches to this in the future with the feedback he's had here
Must also remember he's young and we all make mistakes..he has been checking this thread. Obviously with some of his print releases with galleries and some of the issues there etx, he's wanted to start another approach with selling periodically directly to fans. I think a lottery approach would have had better intention, and I wouldn't be surprised if he switches to this in the future with the feedback he's had here
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