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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by shaunyboy on Apr 24, 2014 20:09:41 GMT 1, I expect there to be a hell of a lot of angry forumites whose main reason for sticking with the t-shirts was the charity donation.
I expect there to be a hell of a lot of angry forumites whose main reason for sticking with the t-shirts was the charity donation.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 20:17:50 GMT 1, I expect there to be a hell of a lot of angry forumites whose main reason for sticking with the t-shirts was the charity donation.
That was it.... Now i have no idea... I want to hear BNE's response to the latest developments. Also interested in Invader, Obey and Faile's opinions...
I expect there to be a hell of a lot of angry forumites whose main reason for sticking with the t-shirts was the charity donation. That was it.... Now i have no idea... I want to hear BNE's response to the latest developments. Also interested in Invader, Obey and Faile's opinions...
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by behaviorist on Apr 24, 2014 20:18:07 GMT 1, So many suspicious developments. Him pulling the Faile COA is really ridiculous and very suspicious – it certainly lends the impression that he sold and shipped far more than 100 of those tees. I posted a query on his instagram about this but have yet to hear anything. What a total mess.
So many suspicious developments. Him pulling the Faile COA is really ridiculous and very suspicious – it certainly lends the impression that he sold and shipped far more than 100 of those tees. I posted a query on his instagram about this but have yet to hear anything. What a total mess.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Coach on Apr 24, 2014 20:27:24 GMT 1, I expect there to be a hell of a lot of angry forumites whose main reason for sticking with the t-shirts was the charity donation.
I'm not too pleased. I left my t shirt money cos the money had gone to the charity. I can't remember when the release was but I'm sure the dispute period has cone to an end.
I expect there to be a hell of a lot of angry forumites whose main reason for sticking with the t-shirts was the charity donation. I'm not too pleased. I left my t shirt money cos the money had gone to the charity. I can't remember when the release was but I'm sure the dispute period has cone to an end.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Manty on Apr 24, 2014 20:28:46 GMT 1, I expect there to be a hell of a lot of angry forumites whose main reason for sticking with the t-shirts was the charity donation. I'm not too pleased. I left my t shirt money cos the money had gone to the charity. I can't remember when the release was but I'm sure the dispute period has cone to an end. I don't think it has Coach, i put in a dispute about an hour ago
Just go to paypal, dig up the payment, and dispute if you are so inclined
I expect there to be a hell of a lot of angry forumites whose main reason for sticking with the t-shirts was the charity donation. I'm not too pleased. I left my t shirt money cos the money had gone to the charity. I can't remember when the release was but I'm sure the dispute period has cone to an end. I don't think it has Coach, i put in a dispute about an hour ago Just go to paypal, dig up the payment, and dispute if you are so inclined
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 20:32:10 GMT 1, I'll email BNE and ask for an explanation. If the charity does not have the money BNE should have told us that when the charity cancled the donation... I left my order because the money went to charity.. If that ia not the case i would like my money back of cours...
I'll email BNE and ask for an explanation. If the charity does not have the money BNE should have told us that when the charity cancled the donation... I left my order because the money went to charity.. If that ia not the case i would like my money back of cours...
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by .dappy on Apr 24, 2014 20:33:43 GMT 1, ...as people will know, I am not a great supporter of BNE, but maybe he paid the charity the money a different way, just not through paypal ... *
*strange how char:wat did not mention this in their reply though ...
...as people will know, I am not a great supporter of BNE, but maybe he paid the charity the money a different way, just not through paypal ... *
*strange how char:wat did not mention this in their reply though ...
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by randomname on Apr 24, 2014 20:47:26 GMT 1, So charity does not have the 30K anymore?..... And BNE is not giving out COA's.... ... Ouch... Why don't Invader, obey and faile don't respond to these new developments? Did someone reach out to them already? I emailed Faile about an hour ago about the missing COA. I haven't heard back. In the meantime, I checked their Facebook and Instagram pages, the posts about the COA have been removed. They know something they're not telling us. My guess is they've figured out more than 100 shirts are going out. Which I wouldn't mind if the money went to charity. But that's pretty iffy at this point.
So charity does not have the 30K anymore?..... And BNE is not giving out COA's.... ... Ouch... Why don't Invader, obey and faile don't respond to these new developments? Did someone reach out to them already? I emailed Faile about an hour ago about the missing COA. I haven't heard back. In the meantime, I checked their Facebook and Instagram pages, the posts about the COA have been removed. They know something they're not telling us. My guess is they've figured out more than 100 shirts are going out. Which I wouldn't mind if the money went to charity. But that's pretty iffy at this point.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 20:58:22 GMT 1, I have e-mailed BNE. I hope (for the sake of it) that he will have a great explanation.
What a mess... As most of you know i am a 'pro-BNE' member but i am struggling at this point. How deep can this $h|thole be? ... This is so not BNE, the guy did nothing but good for the last couple of years.... Cue Bucky....
I have e-mailed BNE. I hope (for the sake of it) that he will have a great explanation.
What a mess... As most of you know i am a 'pro-BNE' member but i am struggling at this point. How deep can this $h|thole be? ... This is so not BNE, the guy did nothing but good for the last couple of years.... Cue Bucky....
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by randomname on Apr 24, 2014 20:58:36 GMT 1, Since becoming aware of the various issues around the charity collaboration with BNE, we’ve been working behind-the-scenes to resolve the situation. Unfortunately though, final decisions and control of the project’s operation are managed by BNE directly.
For example, it was very important to us that the edition size of 100 was honored, and we published Certificates of Authenticity (COA) in an effort to give everyone confidence that only 100 shirts were produced. While BNE initially agreed to issue the certificate, we learned that those were not distributed after hearing from fans that received the t-shirts without the documentation. We apologize if you have, in any way, been inconvenienced or disappointed by our involvement with this project.
We’ve always operated on a foundation of quality, trust and a deep appreciation for our fans. And, in the future, we will control our own charity projects to ensure a high level of integrity and transparency.
We appreciate your continued support and trust as we move forward.
Sincerely, FAILE
Since becoming aware of the various issues around the charity collaboration with BNE, we’ve been working behind-the-scenes to resolve the situation. Unfortunately though, final decisions and control of the project’s operation are managed by BNE directly.
For example, it was very important to us that the edition size of 100 was honored, and we published Certificates of Authenticity (COA) in an effort to give everyone confidence that only 100 shirts were produced. While BNE initially agreed to issue the certificate, we learned that those were not distributed after hearing from fans that received the t-shirts without the documentation. We apologize if you have, in any way, been inconvenienced or disappointed by our involvement with this project.
We’ve always operated on a foundation of quality, trust and a deep appreciation for our fans. And, in the future, we will control our own charity projects to ensure a high level of integrity and transparency.
We appreciate your continued support and trust as we move forward.
Sincerely, FAILE
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by randomname on Apr 24, 2014 20:58:59 GMT 1, double post
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 21:04:17 GMT 1, Since becoming aware of the various issues around the charity collaboration with BNE, we’ve been working behind-the-scenes to resolve the situation. Unfortunately though, final decisions and control of the project’s operation are managed by BNE directly. For example, it was very important to us that the edition size of 100 was honored, and we published Certificates of Authenticity (COA) in an effort to give everyone confidence that only 100 shirts were produced. While BNE initially agreed to issue the certificate, we learned that those were not distributed after hearing from fans that received the t-shirts without the documentation. We apologize if you have, in any way, been inconvenienced or disappointed by our involvement with this project. We’ve always operated on a foundation of quality, trust and a deep appreciation for our fans. And, in the future, we will control our own charity projects to ensure a high level of integrity and transparency. We appreciate your continued support and trust as we move forward. Sincerely, FAILE
That is a clear statement....
Since becoming aware of the various issues around the charity collaboration with BNE, we’ve been working behind-the-scenes to resolve the situation. Unfortunately though, final decisions and control of the project’s operation are managed by BNE directly. For example, it was very important to us that the edition size of 100 was honored, and we published Certificates of Authenticity (COA) in an effort to give everyone confidence that only 100 shirts were produced. While BNE initially agreed to issue the certificate, we learned that those were not distributed after hearing from fans that received the t-shirts without the documentation. We apologize if you have, in any way, been inconvenienced or disappointed by our involvement with this project. We’ve always operated on a foundation of quality, trust and a deep appreciation for our fans. And, in the future, we will control our own charity projects to ensure a high level of integrity and transparency. We appreciate your continued support and trust as we move forward. Sincerely, FAILE That is a clear statement....
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 21:07:31 GMT 1, Got a reply from team BNE
Got a reply from team BNE
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 21:07:45 GMT 1, Team BNE's reply:
Hey,
Hope you are well. Yes, they will not be accepting the collaborative tee donation, but as of this moment, the Faile, Invader and Shepard tee donations are still with them, you can see that here ( my.charitywater.org/bne ). As stated on our site, we will announce the new charity and exact amount raised soon. We need about another week to sort everything. How did you here about the charity not accepting the donation? We just got this news today.
Best, S (team BNe)
Team BNE's reply: Hey, Hope you are well. Yes, they will not be accepting the collaborative tee donation, but as of this moment, the Faile, Invader and Shepard tee donations are still with them, you can see that here ( my.charitywater.org/bne ). As stated on our site, we will announce the new charity and exact amount raised soon. We need about another week to sort everything. How did you here about the charity not accepting the donation? We just got this news today. Best, S (team BNe)
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Con Art Studio on Apr 24, 2014 21:16:23 GMT 1, Him pulling the Faile COA is really ridiculous and very suspicious. When did this happen?! it happened when i got my shirt yesterday morning with no COA. i posted that it didn't come with one and sent and email to BNE and Faile (which i still haven't gotten a response). someone else on thegiant posted they didn't receive one either and also sent BNE and Faile an email. a couple hours later BNE posted on instagram that he decided to not send the COAs and at some point earlier today, Faile removed this posting from their instagram account:
and apologized to a few people via email that BNE promised to include the COAs but didn't...
Him pulling the Faile COA is really ridiculous and very suspicious. When did this happen?! it happened when i got my shirt yesterday morning with no COA. i posted that it didn't come with one and sent and email to BNE and Faile (which i still haven't gotten a response). someone else on thegiant posted they didn't receive one either and also sent BNE and Faile an email. a couple hours later BNE posted on instagram that he decided to not send the COAs and at some point earlier today, Faile removed this posting from their instagram account: and apologized to a few people via email that BNE promised to include the COAs but didn't...
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by tartarus on Apr 24, 2014 21:17:24 GMT 1, Thanks for your inquiry regarding the donation that BNE originally made to charity: water on March 22, 2014. We’ve been in contact with PayPal and wanted to provide you with an update. BNE’s donation to charity: water was flagged by PayPal as an unauthorized payment and upon further review subsequently reversed by PayPal. charity: water is no longer in possession of this donation. We are not in direct communication with BNE, but PayPal has informed us that they was working with BNE in the case of any refund requests. Please let us know of any further questions and you can email BNE at info@bne.org with questions regarding payment and/or refunds. Incredible!!! The story that just keeps giving!
I got an email about paypal dispute time being increased to 180 days the other day, not sure if this would be included in that6, but i WILL be after a refund if he's got the donation back!!
Couldn't look ANY shadier than by not telling people that!!!
Looking forward to his response though!!
Thanks for your inquiry regarding the donation that BNE originally made to charity: water on March 22, 2014. We’ve been in contact with PayPal and wanted to provide you with an update. BNE’s donation to charity: water was flagged by PayPal as an unauthorized payment and upon further review subsequently reversed by PayPal. charity: water is no longer in possession of this donation. We are not in direct communication with BNE, but PayPal has informed us that they was working with BNE in the case of any refund requests. Please let us know of any further questions and you can email BNE at info@bne.org with questions regarding payment and/or refunds. Incredible!!! The story that just keeps giving! I got an email about paypal dispute time being increased to 180 days the other day, not sure if this would be included in that6, but i WILL be after a refund if he's got the donation back!! Couldn't look ANY shadier than by not telling people that!!! Looking forward to his response though!!
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Apr 24, 2014 21:23:06 GMT 1, Team BNE did reply already. Read my previous post...
Team BNE did reply already. Read my previous post...
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by tartarus on Apr 24, 2014 21:29:55 GMT 1, Ah now i see his response, cheers json.
As for BNE, i think he should have learned by now that hiding is worse, but no.
I am beginning to wonder if he is a direct descendant of the black knight!!!
Ah now i see his response, cheers json.
As for BNE, i think he should have learned by now that hiding is worse, but no.
I am beginning to wonder if he is a direct descendant of the black knight!!!
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by tartarus on Apr 24, 2014 21:31:11 GMT 1, Team BNE did reply already. Read my previous post… Takes me longer to type a post than it does for this story to do a 390 degree turn! i try!
Team BNE did reply already. Read my previous post… Takes me longer to type a post than it does for this story to do a 390 degree turn! i try!
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by bigtlt on Apr 24, 2014 21:35:24 GMT 1, Makes it look like they sold a lot more than the 100 he claims.
Can't think of any valid reason not to send the coa's
Makes it look like they sold a lot more than the 100 he claims.
Can't think of any valid reason not to send the coa's
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Dungle on Apr 24, 2014 21:40:25 GMT 1, So it's all been a big con from the start.
What a surprise.
So it's all been a big con from the start.
What a surprise.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by .dappy on Apr 24, 2014 21:41:09 GMT 1, ... if it moos it's a cow ... if it quacks it's a duck ...
... if it moos it's a cow ... if it quacks it's a duck ...
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by behaviorist on Apr 24, 2014 21:41:27 GMT 1, what. a. clown.
let this thread die.
and BNE's so-called charity with it.
what. a. clown.
let this thread die.
and BNE's so-called charity with it.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Manty on Apr 24, 2014 21:43:34 GMT 1, So it's all been a big con from the start. What a surprise.
I don't think it was a scam from the start, still think best intentions and all that. though he did seem to have lost the initial plot after shirtgate
So it's all been a big con from the start. What a surprise. I don't think it was a scam from the start, still think best intentions and all that. though he did seem to have lost the initial plot after shirtgate
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Con Art Studio on Apr 24, 2014 21:45:55 GMT 1, what. a. clown. let this thread die. and BNE's so-called charity with it. don't let BNE give the charity a bad name because charity:water is a phenomenal charity and has absolutely nothing to do with BNE…
BNE is not a charity, it's a business to make money and used to donate a very small portion of the money he made to charity:water but now he's looking for another charity since it appears they don't want to be associated with him.
what. a. clown. let this thread die. and BNE's so-called charity with it. don't let BNE give the charity a bad name because charity:water is a phenomenal charity and has absolutely nothing to do with BNE… BNE is not a charity, it's a business to make money and used to donate a very small portion of the money he made to charity:water but now he's looking for another charity since it appears they don't want to be associated with him.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Dungle on Apr 24, 2014 21:47:35 GMT 1, So it's all been a big con from the start. What a surprise. I don't think it was a scam from the start, still think best intentions and all that. though he did seem to have lost the initial plot after shirtgate But he clearly oversold all the t shirts. He's been found out because the collab artists wanted coa's so that their consciences were clear. BNE hasn't done that which shows he's produced more. Artists are now distancing themselves from the whole thing.
the geezer was out to make money and he has.
So it's all been a big con from the start. What a surprise. I don't think it was a scam from the start, still think best intentions and all that. though he did seem to have lost the initial plot after shirtgate But he clearly oversold all the t shirts. He's been found out because the collab artists wanted coa's so that their consciences were clear. BNE hasn't done that which shows he's produced more. Artists are now distancing themselves from the whole thing. the geezer was out to make money and he has.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by randomname on Apr 24, 2014 21:51:16 GMT 1, So it's all been a big con from the start. What a surprise. I don't think it was a scam from the start, still think best intentions and all that. though he did seem to have lost the initial plot after shirtgate The first round of shirts were suspect from the start. A bunch of people bought shirts before the drop. Then a bunch more bought shirts the second they officially dropped. Then they were still for sale for several hours.
Given the level of demand, it seemed unlikely that only 100 of each shirt was sold. When BNE decided not to ship the COAs, that basically confirmed they didn't honor the edition size.
So it's all been a big con from the start. What a surprise. I don't think it was a scam from the start, still think best intentions and all that. though he did seem to have lost the initial plot after shirtgate The first round of shirts were suspect from the start. A bunch of people bought shirts before the drop. Then a bunch more bought shirts the second they officially dropped. Then they were still for sale for several hours. Given the level of demand, it seemed unlikely that only 100 of each shirt was sold. When BNE decided not to ship the COAs, that basically confirmed they didn't honor the edition size.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by behaviorist on Apr 24, 2014 21:54:42 GMT 1, what. a. clown. let this thread die. and BNE's so-called charity with it. don't let BNE give the charity a bad name because charity:water is a phenomenal charity and has absolutely nothing to do with BNE… BNE is not a charity, it's a business to make money and used to donate a very small portion of the money he made to charity:water but now he's looking for another charity since it appears they don't want to be associated with him. i realize this. i am not in any way opposed to charity:water or any other charity for that matter. i am just saying that BNE's so-called charitable effort is as non-transparent as it comes, and clearly suspect. there is no clear transparency as to how many shirts were sold, where certain funds went, etc etc.
what. a. clown. let this thread die. and BNE's so-called charity with it. don't let BNE give the charity a bad name because charity:water is a phenomenal charity and has absolutely nothing to do with BNE… BNE is not a charity, it's a business to make money and used to donate a very small portion of the money he made to charity:water but now he's looking for another charity since it appears they don't want to be associated with him. i realize this. i am not in any way opposed to charity:water or any other charity for that matter. i am just saying that BNE's so-called charitable effort is as non-transparent as it comes, and clearly suspect. there is no clear transparency as to how many shirts were sold, where certain funds went, etc etc.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Con Art Studio on Apr 24, 2014 21:58:12 GMT 1, don't let BNE give the charity a bad name because charity:water is a phenomenal charity and has absolutely nothing to do with BNE… BNE is not a charity, it's a business to make money and used to donate a very small portion of the money he made to charity:water but now he's looking for another charity since it appears they don't want to be associated with him. i realize this. i am not in any way opposed to charity:water or any other charity for that matter. i am just saying that BNE's so-called charitable effort is as non-transparent as it comes, and clearly suspect. there is no clear transparency as to how many shirts were sold, where certain funds went, etc etc. agree. there's zero transparency to any of BNE's actions.
don't let BNE give the charity a bad name because charity:water is a phenomenal charity and has absolutely nothing to do with BNE… BNE is not a charity, it's a business to make money and used to donate a very small portion of the money he made to charity:water but now he's looking for another charity since it appears they don't want to be associated with him. i realize this. i am not in any way opposed to charity:water or any other charity for that matter. i am just saying that BNE's so-called charitable effort is as non-transparent as it comes, and clearly suspect. there is no clear transparency as to how many shirts were sold, where certain funds went, etc etc. agree. there's zero transparency to any of BNE's actions.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Manty on Apr 24, 2014 22:07:45 GMT 1, I agree with you both in so far as what has transpired, and it really is bad form.
However he apparently had quite a bit of credabilty before the sales of the T shirts from other artists and community?
From what I read back in March he is (was) capable of earning money from his own art?
Why would he ostracise himself so stupidly, and cause this train wreck
Is he Jasons brother?
as an aside, how much money do you think he would clear from all these sales?
I agree with you both in so far as what has transpired, and it really is bad form.
However he apparently had quite a bit of credabilty before the sales of the T shirts from other artists and community?
From what I read back in March he is (was) capable of earning money from his own art?
Why would he ostracise himself so stupidly, and cause this train wreck
Is he Jasons brother?
as an aside, how much money do you think he would clear from all these sales?
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