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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by BKBOI on Apr 25, 2014 17:04:22 GMT 1, anyone have ideas on framing this?
anyone have ideas on framing this?
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by preston on Apr 25, 2014 17:05:13 GMT 1, A couple of things:
1/ The shirts were meant to be "100% Organic Cotton". According to the label, it's not.
2/ Paypal would be a better indicator of how many of the shirts were sold, and I'm sure they are now looking into this due to the number of complaints filed.
A couple of things:
1/ The shirts were meant to be "100% Organic Cotton". According to the label, it's not.
2/ Paypal would be a better indicator of how many of the shirts were sold, and I'm sure they are now looking into this due to the number of complaints filed.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by BKBOI on Apr 25, 2014 17:09:36 GMT 1, paypal will not share that information unless given a court order.
paypal will not share that information unless given a court order.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Agent Provocateur on Apr 25, 2014 17:13:32 GMT 1, anyone have ideas on framing this?
Yep...
Insert head and arms into the large whole at the bottom of the t-shirt, shove arms through small side holes at the top and head through the bigger central hole, pull down and smooth. All done, t-shirt framed.
Then head for front door, go to a pub, forget about BNE and get drunk.
anyone have ideas on framing this? Yep... Insert head and arms into the large whole at the bottom of the t-shirt, shove arms through small side holes at the top and head through the bigger central hole, pull down and smooth. All done, t-shirt framed. Then head for front door, go to a pub, forget about BNE and get drunk. |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by shaunyboy on Apr 25, 2014 18:32:39 GMT 1, <xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">Its like you read something written by BNE and you can almost guarantee the exact opposite is true.</xmlns:texthelpns>
<xmlns:texthelpns rwthpgen="1">Its like you read something written by BNE and you can almost guarantee the exact opposite is true.</xmlns:texthelpns>
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Hairbland on Apr 25, 2014 20:02:26 GMT 1, "There's a sucker born every minute" - P.T.Barnum
By the way, the quote was never made by P.T.Barnum yet people talk about it to this day.
Kinda like everything on this thread.
"There's a sucker born every minute" - P.T.Barnum
By the way, the quote was never made by P.T.Barnum yet people talk about it to this day.
Kinda like everything on this thread.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by buckyturco on Apr 25, 2014 20:07:11 GMT 1, 
I was thinking about doing a collaboration tee (of sorts) and donating 100% of the proceeds to charity. They'll be limited to 100,000 pieces and come with a COA crafted out of toilet paper.
I was thinking about doing a collaboration tee (of sorts) and donating 100% of the proceeds to charity. They'll be limited to 100,000 pieces and come with a COA crafted out of toilet paper. |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by behaviorist on Apr 25, 2014 20:20:11 GMT 1, In three different editions priced increasingly by a factor of four? Count me in.
Let me know when I should write the blog post calling this out as a scam.
In three different editions priced increasingly by a factor of four? Count me in.
Let me know when I should write the blog post calling this out as a scam.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Rubys on Apr 26, 2014 2:06:04 GMT 1, You still here Bucky
You still here Bucky
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by buckyturco on Apr 26, 2014 2:18:06 GMT 1, Are you being rhetorical Rubys?
Are you being rhetorical Rubys? |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by behaviorist on Apr 26, 2014 2:33:03 GMT 1, I just checked and I've actually been blocked from BNE's instagram for posting a query about how many of the Faile shirts he'd sold. I was perfectly polite in asking my question. And now I've been blocked from his Instagram account.
I'm all for outing this guy. Somehow this molehill's become a mountain; now it's personal. Tongue firmly in cheek, of course.
Edit: calm.com
I just checked and I've actually been blocked from BNE's instagram for posting a query about how many of the Faile shirts he'd sold. I was perfectly polite in asking my question. And now I've been blocked from his Instagram account.
I'm all for outing this guy. Somehow this molehill's become a mountain; now it's personal. Tongue firmly in cheek, of course.
Edit: calm.com
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Apr 26, 2014 2:51:58 GMT 1, I just checked and I've actually been blocked from BNE's instagram for posting a query about how many of the Faile shirts he'd sold. I was perfectly polite in asking my question. And now I've been blocked from his Instagram account. I'm all for outing this guy. Somehow this molehill's become a mountain; now it's personal. Tongue firmly in cheek, of course. Edit: calm.com
I just checked and I've actually been blocked from BNE's instagram for posting a query about how many of the Faile shirts he'd sold. I was perfectly polite in asking my question. And now I've been blocked from his Instagram account. I'm all for outing this guy. Somehow this molehill's become a mountain; now it's personal. Tongue firmly in cheek, of course. Edit: calm.com same thing happened to me yesterday. deep breaths |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Emile on Apr 26, 2014 15:26:34 GMT 1, behaviorist, @federationofideas
Yep here is some proof of that. Took screenshots.
Definitely messed up. I used to be somewhat on BNE's side throughout this whole thing (or at least believe there was something true about him/it), but lost all respect now. Now he's messing with the artists that were actually, honestly collaborating with him.
behaviorist, @federationofideas Yep here is some proof of that. Took screenshots. Definitely messed up. I used to be somewhat on BNE's side throughout this whole thing (or at least believe there was something true about him/it), but lost all respect now. Now he's messing with the artists that were actually, honestly collaborating with him.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 12:25:22 GMT 1, I just checked and I've actually been blocked from BNE's instagram for posting a query about how many of the Faile shirts he'd sold. I was perfectly polite in asking my question. And now I've been blocked from his Instagram account. I'm all for outing this guy. Somehow this molehill's become a mountain; now it's personal. Tongue firmly in cheek, of course. Edit: calm.com same thing happened to me yesterday. deep breaths "In 2011, BNE founded the BNE Water Foundation, a non-profit organization dedicated to providing clean, safe water, and basic sanitation to people living in extreme poverty." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.N.E._(artist)
a non profit org would give 100% of the profit not 20%
How much did Fairey etc take for themselves too from sales?
I don't know where they are getting their figures from but according to this
my.charitywater.org/artists-4-water ,they have raised $6,170 of a goal of $5,000
I just checked and I've actually been blocked from BNE's instagram for posting a query about how many of the Faile shirts he'd sold. I was perfectly polite in asking my question. And now I've been blocked from his Instagram account. I'm all for outing this guy. Somehow this molehill's become a mountain; now it's personal. Tongue firmly in cheek, of course. Edit: calm.com same thing happened to me yesterday. deep breaths "In 2011, BNE founded the BNE Water Foundation, a non-profit organization dedicated to providing clean, safe water, and basic sanitation to people living in extreme poverty." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.N.E._(artist)
a non profit org would give 100% of the profit not 20%
How much did Fairey etc take for themselves too from sales?
I don't know where they are getting their figures from but according to this
my.charitywater.org/artists-4-water ,they have raised $6,170 of a goal of $5,000
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Con Art Studio on Apr 27, 2014 13:19:09 GMT 1, same thing happened to me yesterday. deep breaths "In 2011, BNE founded the BNE Water Foundation, a non-profit organization dedicated to providing clean, safe water, and basic sanitation to people living in extreme poverty." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.N.E._(artist)
a non profit org would give 100% of the profit not 20%
How much did Fairey etc take for themselves too from sales?
I don't know where they are getting their figures from but according to this
my.charitywater.org/artists-4-water ,they have raised $6,170 of a goal of $5,000
actually, a nonprofit would not give 100% to it's cause, they would have no money for any kind of operating costs, salaries, etc.
You can use www.charitywatch.org to find out how much of each dollar, given to any specific charity, is actually being used towards the reason it was donated for in the first place. There are a lot of charities who only give a small percentage of each dollar to the actual cause:
money.cnn.com/2013/05/24/pf/donations-charities/
Now as far as BNE goes, they ARE NOT a non profit charity. They tried to start on in 2011 but it didn't work and since changed to a profit driven business that donates a small portion of it's profits to charity... The problem is that BNE's business practices are not transparent, something Shepard warned him about, and proof is the fact that a lot of people still think BNE's a charity... It's not. Being a PROFIT run business, I'm sure he(BNE) struck a deal with Shepard, faile and invader to pay them some money for each shirt sold in exchange to use their art. Faile agreed to do this on the agreement COAs would be sent with each shirt to legitimatize and keep the integrity of the edition size - which was very important to faile and unfortunately BNE didn't hold up his end of that deal, most likely due to the fact he sold well over the edition limit and pocketed the money.
Don't let BNE give charity:water, Shepard, faile or invader a bad name. The artists involved had good intentions whereas BNE is a money grubbing scam artist.
same thing happened to me yesterday. deep breaths "In 2011, BNE founded the BNE Water Foundation, a non-profit organization dedicated to providing clean, safe water, and basic sanitation to people living in extreme poverty." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.N.E._(artist)
a non profit org would give 100% of the profit not 20%
How much did Fairey etc take for themselves too from sales?
I don't know where they are getting their figures from but according to this
my.charitywater.org/artists-4-water ,they have raised $6,170 of a goal of $5,000
actually, a nonprofit would not give 100% to it's cause, they would have no money for any kind of operating costs, salaries, etc. You can use www.charitywatch.org to find out how much of each dollar, given to any specific charity, is actually being used towards the reason it was donated for in the first place. There are a lot of charities who only give a small percentage of each dollar to the actual cause: money.cnn.com/2013/05/24/pf/donations-charities/Now as far as BNE goes, they ARE NOT a non profit charity. They tried to start on in 2011 but it didn't work and since changed to a profit driven business that donates a small portion of it's profits to charity... The problem is that BNE's business practices are not transparent, something Shepard warned him about, and proof is the fact that a lot of people still think BNE's a charity... It's not. Being a PROFIT run business, I'm sure he(BNE) struck a deal with Shepard, faile and invader to pay them some money for each shirt sold in exchange to use their art. Faile agreed to do this on the agreement COAs would be sent with each shirt to legitimatize and keep the integrity of the edition size - which was very important to faile and unfortunately BNE didn't hold up his end of that deal, most likely due to the fact he sold well over the edition limit and pocketed the money. Don't let BNE give charity:water, Shepard, faile or invader a bad name. The artists involved had good intentions whereas BNE is a money grubbing scam artist. |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 13:33:48 GMT 1, I agree thats why I wrote, the wiki page says BNE gives 100% of the profit (which is profit made after deductions expenses etc.)
Which in my book would be 100 % of the profit from sales of T shirts, so if a T shirt was sold for $80.00 there must be a good profit in that.
I agree again that BNE is too vague and not transparent.
If he said for example a T shirt will sell for 80 and it costs say 20 and he makes 60 and gives 20 and keeps 40.
No one would be able to complain but people would be able to decide if they wanted to buy a T shirt on that basis.
Obviously if people belive that all profit from te 80 goes to the charity they would be more inclined to purchase.
I agree thats why I wrote, the wiki page says BNE gives 100% of the profit (which is profit made after deductions expenses etc.)
Which in my book would be 100 % of the profit from sales of T shirts, so if a T shirt was sold for $80.00 there must be a good profit in that.
I agree again that BNE is too vague and not transparent.
If he said for example a T shirt will sell for 80 and it costs say 20 and he makes 60 and gives 20 and keeps 40.
No one would be able to complain but people would be able to decide if they wanted to buy a T shirt on that basis.
Obviously if people belive that all profit from te 80 goes to the charity they would be more inclined to purchase.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Warm Gun on Apr 27, 2014 13:39:42 GMT 1, Most charities seem to operate by making a profit these days. Charity is big business.
Most charities seem to operate by making a profit these days. Charity is big business.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by .dappy on Apr 27, 2014 13:45:50 GMT 1,
... ploppi the amount that BNE gave for each of the t shirts (faile,invader and the not so banksy was explained by BNE (on his website) at the time/many pages past and on the other threads in connection with this one
keep up 
I am not sure that many people will want to rehash it all again 
... ploppi the amount that BNE gave for each of the t shirts (faile,invader and the not so banksy was explained by BNE (on his website) at the time/many pages past and on the other threads in connection with this one keep up I am not sure that many people will want to rehash it all again |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by BKBOI on Apr 27, 2014 15:30:01 GMT 1, How does this guy make his money? No one here seems to be a collector of his art, just fan boys of his charity.
How does this guy make his money? No one here seems to be a collector of his art, just fan boys of his charity.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Emile on Apr 27, 2014 15:49:31 GMT 1, How does this guy make his money? No one here seems to be a collector of his art, just fan boys of his charity.
If by 'this guy' you mean BNE:
1. Count/estimate how much t-shirts have been sold
2. Do the math
3. Figure out he has made quite a bit of money with this
How does this guy make his money? No one here seems to be a collector of his art, just fan boys of his charity. If by 'this guy' you mean BNE: 1. Count/estimate how much t-shirts have been sold 2. Do the math 3. Figure out he has made quite a bit of money with this |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Broth on Apr 27, 2014 17:27:37 GMT 1, BNE responded via email to me stating that he didn't go with the Faile COA's because they have "Charity:Water" on them. I responded asking if the donated money from the Faile shirts went to C:W. I also asked if he shipped/printed/sold more than the marketed number of them. No response back.
I've been on BNE and Stefany's case about the number sold since day one of this nonsense. They've responded back to me half-a-dozen times but never once answered that question.
BNE responded via email to me stating that he didn't go with the Faile COA's because they have "Charity:Water" on them. I responded asking if the donated money from the Faile shirts went to C:W. I also asked if he shipped/printed/sold more than the marketed number of them. No response back.
I've been on BNE and Stefany's case about the number sold since day one of this nonsense. They've responded back to me half-a-dozen times but never once answered that question.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by behaviorist on Apr 27, 2014 17:31:35 GMT 1, BNE responded via email to me stating that he didn't go with the Faile COA's because they have "Charity:Water" on them. I responded asking if the donated money from the Faile shirts went to C:W. I also asked if he shipped/printed/sold more than the marketed number of them. No response back. I've been on BNE and Stefany's case about the number sold since day one of this nonsense. They've responded back to me half-a-dozen times but never once answered that question.
It seems obvious to me that way more were sold, especially given their evasiveness. Getting them to admit to it seems to be an entirely different matter.
BNE responded via email to me stating that he didn't go with the Faile COA's because they have "Charity:Water" on them. I responded asking if the donated money from the Faile shirts went to C:W. I also asked if he shipped/printed/sold more than the marketed number of them. No response back. I've been on BNE and Stefany's case about the number sold since day one of this nonsense. They've responded back to me half-a-dozen times but never once answered that question. I asked that precise question via Instagram, literally as, "Sorry to ask this, but wondering how many Faile shirts you sold. Thanks" - all extremely polite, and was immediately blocked from his account. It seems obvious to me that way more were sold, especially given their evasiveness. Getting them to admit to it seems to be an entirely different matter. |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 17:52:06 GMT 1, BNE responded via email to me stating that he didn't go with the Faile COA's because they have "Charity:Water" on them. I responded asking if the donated money from the Faile shirts went to C:W. I also asked if he shipped/printed/sold more than the marketed number of them. No response back. I've been on BNE and Stefany's case about the number sold since day one of this nonsense. They've responded back to me half-a-dozen times but never once answered that question.
Team BNE told me that the charity accepted the money from Faile, Invader and Obey and only refused the 'not Banksy' tee. So why would it be a problem that the Faile Coa mentioned the charity? ....
BNE responded via email to me stating that he didn't go with the Faile COA's because they have "Charity:Water" on them. I responded asking if the donated money from the Faile shirts went to C:W. I also asked if he shipped/printed/sold more than the marketed number of them. No response back. I've been on BNE and Stefany's case about the number sold since day one of this nonsense. They've responded back to me half-a-dozen times but never once answered that question. Team BNE told me that the charity accepted the money from Faile, Invader and Obey and only refused the 'not Banksy' tee. So why would it be a problem that the Faile Coa mentioned the charity? .... |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by behaviorist on Apr 27, 2014 18:00:42 GMT 1, BNE responded via email to me stating that he didn't go with the Faile COA's because they have "Charity:Water" on them. I responded asking if the donated money from the Faile shirts went to C:W. I also asked if he shipped/printed/sold more than the marketed number of them. No response back. I've been on BNE and Stefany's case about the number sold since day one of this nonsense. They've responded back to me half-a-dozen times but never once answered that question. Team BNE told me that the charity accepted the money from Faile, Invader and Obey and only refused the 'not Banksy' tee. So why would it be a problem that the Faile Coa mentioned the charity? ....
BNE responded via email to me stating that he didn't go with the Faile COA's because they have "Charity:Water" on them. I responded asking if the donated money from the Faile shirts went to C:W. I also asked if he shipped/printed/sold more than the marketed number of them. No response back. I've been on BNE and Stefany's case about the number sold since day one of this nonsense. They've responded back to me half-a-dozen times but never once answered that question. Team BNE told me that the charity accepted the money from Faile, Invader and Obey and only refused the 'not Banksy' tee. So why would it be a problem that the Faile Coa mentioned the charity? .... clearly that wasn't the problem. if it were, they could have cropped the COAs and renumbered them, or even printed new ones. |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Johnnyroyale on Apr 27, 2014 19:10:21 GMT 1, I also posted on bne's instagram that people were querying how many tees were sold and that if it issued the Faile COAs this wouldve put people at ease . I also reposted on instagram the email from Faile regarding BNE that was posted here earlier. Safe to say these were subsequently deleted and ive also been blocked from bne instagram.
I then opened an ebay dispute on the basis that the item was not as described e.g limited to 100 pieces each and the seller has not provided any assurances to purchases that this is the case. Ppal has advised me that BNE has until 5th may to respond
I also posted on bne's instagram that people were querying how many tees were sold and that if it issued the Faile COAs this wouldve put people at ease . I also reposted on instagram the email from Faile regarding BNE that was posted here earlier. Safe to say these were subsequently deleted and ive also been blocked from bne instagram.
I then opened an ebay dispute on the basis that the item was not as described e.g limited to 100 pieces each and the seller has not provided any assurances to purchases that this is the case. Ppal has advised me that BNE has until 5th may to respond
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Deleted on Apr 27, 2014 19:16:46 GMT 1, Zeffarett posted this over on EB.
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Hairbland on Apr 27, 2014 22:29:04 GMT 1, This thread is like hanging out with your mate who just talks about nothing but the girl who broke up with him 5 years ago!
This thread is like hanging out with your mate who just talks about nothing but the girl who broke up with him 5 years ago!
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Con Art Studio on Apr 27, 2014 22:36:39 GMT 1, How does this guy make his money? No one here seems to be a collector of his art, just fan boys of his charity.
BNE IS NOT A CHARITY NOR DOES BNE "HAVE" A CHARITY.
How does this guy make his money? No one here seems to be a collector of his art, just fan boys of his charity. BNE IS NOT A CHARITY NOR DOES BNE "HAVE" A CHARITY. |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by behaviorist on Apr 28, 2014 0:19:46 GMT 1, I also posted on bne's instagram that people were querying how many tees were sold and that if it issued the Faile COAs this wouldve put people at ease . I also reposted on instagram the email from Faile regarding BNE that was posted here earlier. Safe to say these were subsequently deleted and ive also been blocked from bne instagram. I then opened an ebay dispute on the basis that the item was not as described e.g limited to 100 pieces each and the seller has not provided any assurances to purchases that this is the case. Ppal has advised me that BNE has until 5th may to respond
I also posted on bne's instagram that people were querying how many tees were sold and that if it issued the Faile COAs this wouldve put people at ease . I also reposted on instagram the email from Faile regarding BNE that was posted here earlier. Safe to say these were subsequently deleted and ive also been blocked from bne instagram. I then opened an ebay dispute on the basis that the item was not as described e.g limited to 100 pieces each and the seller has not provided any assurances to purchases that this is the case. Ppal has advised me that BNE has until 5th may to respond you're asking for a refund and have received a tee or no? it seems easy enough to get a refund if a person wanted to return a tee (e.g., the Faile) they've received... |
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Banksy+BNE for World Water Day, by Lroy on Apr 28, 2014 8:52:11 GMT 1, I just checked and I've actually been blocked from BNE's instagram for posting a query about how many of the Faile shirts he'd sold. I was perfectly polite in asking my question. And now I've been blocked from his Instagram account. I'm all for outing this guy. Somehow this molehill's become a mountain; now it's personal. Tongue firmly in cheek, of course. Edit: calm.com
" @bnedotorg lol, some hypocrites folks talk about charity here ( not you BNE ) , telling us that Wes not for the artist but for water, etc etc. Bla Bla Bla... Have a look on EBay, there is already tee at 150$ ! 150$ for a tee ?! Is it charitee ? ... Anyway , I asked you a question just up and forgot to tag you: They will be all refunded ? I had nothing... Sorry but i am a bit lost in translation "
I wonder why, BNE still insists for the charity gesture, all, here or in the world, wanted a tee because fo the artist ! We can give for charity whitout buying a tee !
ps : it is funny, if you read BNE , he never have " time ", for nothing, lol. When you are making a so big operation, you have to have mates, stamps ( lol ) , package, etc..
http://instagram.com/p/nMJskuzaaH
I just checked and I've actually been blocked from BNE's instagram for posting a query about how many of the Faile shirts he'd sold. I was perfectly polite in asking my question. And now I've been blocked from his Instagram account. I'm all for outing this guy. Somehow this molehill's become a mountain; now it's personal. Tongue firmly in cheek, of course. Edit: calm.com Me too , He blocked me .. In my ( bad ) English language , It told him that - I think that is the truth but I could be wrong ( I copy and paste my comment, sorry for the mistakes )... " @bnedotorg lol, some hypocrites folks talk about charity here ( not you BNE ) , telling us that Wes not for the artist but for water, etc etc. Bla Bla Bla... Have a look on EBay, there is already tee at 150$ ! 150$ for a tee ?! Is it charitee ? ... Anyway , I asked you a question just up and forgot to tag you: They will be all refunded ? I had nothing... Sorry but i am a bit lost in translation " I wonder why, BNE still insists for the charity gesture, all, here or in the world, wanted a tee because fo the artist ! We can give for charity whitout buying a tee ! ps : it is funny, if you read BNE , he never have " time ", for nothing, lol. When you are making a so big operation, you have to have mates, stamps ( lol ) , package, etc.. http://instagram.com/p/nMJskuzaaH |
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