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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by kunstrasen on Nov 27, 2014 10:52:11 GMT 1, why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist.
True that...guess though some disappointment with that price since some simply won't be able to afford it. And when a release is suddenly priced double to previous releases it just gives an odd feeling in my humble opinion wondering if it really is about supporting the artist or rather his management...
Anyhow, without a doubt a quality print...the more I look at it the more I like it. Best of luck to those who can and want to afford it. I assume it will be busy on that site this afternoon...
why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist. True that...guess though some disappointment with that price since some simply won't be able to afford it. And when a release is suddenly priced double to previous releases it just gives an odd feeling in my humble opinion wondering if it really is about supporting the artist or rather his management... Anyhow, without a doubt a quality print...the more I look at it the more I like it. Best of luck to those who can and want to afford it. I assume it will be busy on that site this afternoon... |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 10:52:27 GMT 1, Well if people can't afford to buy the print it does become an issue. Β£350 is probably the UK average weekly take home so for most people this is taken into consideration when purchasing artwork.
Well, dazarino, I'd like to go out and buy a RR Wraith (I wouldn't actually, I'm just using it as an example) but I can't afford one so it's not an issue, I don't buy one. 
Well if people can't afford to buy the print it does become an issue. Β£350 is probably the UK average weekly take home so for most people this is taken into consideration when purchasing artwork. Well, dazarino, I'd like to go out and buy a RR Wraith (I wouldn't actually, I'm just using it as an example) but I can't afford one so it's not an issue, I don't buy one. |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 10:52:44 GMT 1, why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist.
Well that would be in a perfect world. Sadly this forum is going the same way as Espresso Beans and shows sometimes how the main interest is how much money can be made on a print.
why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist. Well that would be in a perfect world. Sadly this forum is going the same way as Espresso Beans and shows sometimes how the main interest is how much money can be made on a print. |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by alittle on Nov 27, 2014 10:53:28 GMT 1, Collecting limited art is not a right. I don't think most releases cater to the average person. The average person buys a mass produced printed canvas at IKEA.
Collecting limited art is not a right. I don't think most releases cater to the average person. The average person buys a mass produced printed canvas at IKEA.
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 10:55:55 GMT 1, What quantifies it as being overpriced? Other prints of his sell for more.
I agree. If the price was too low everyone would be complaining about flippers saturating the market and real collectors missing out on a print they would like to own and cherish.
What quantifies it as being overpriced? Other prints of his sell for more. I agree. If the price was too low everyone would be complaining about flippers saturating the market and real collectors missing out on a print they would like to own and cherish. |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 10:59:47 GMT 1, I don't have enough $$ to afford it, but I think it is priced right. Top artist, great image, quality printer, low edition. Sounds right to me. I wouldn't hesitate buying it if I were able to come up with the cash (time to have a flip through the portfolio  ) as is always the case, just because you (or I) can't afford it, doesn't mean it's overpriced
Exactly fed, well said. Most of the people complaining about the price are probably sat on a portfolio of prints, sell one of those if you dearly want to own this.
Will it look over-priced in a year, two years time?
I don't have enough $$ to afford it, but I think it is priced right. Top artist, great image, quality printer, low edition. Sounds right to me. I wouldn't hesitate buying it if I were able to come up with the cash (time to have a flip through the portfolio ) as is always the case, just because you (or I) can't afford it, doesn't mean it's overpriced Exactly fed, well said. Most of the people complaining about the price are probably sat on a portfolio of prints, sell one of those if you dearly want to own this. Will it look over-priced in a year, two years time? |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by BKBOI on Nov 27, 2014 11:02:17 GMT 1, This hobby is really not getting affordable, that's for sure. I remember complaining during the Eine Revolution release that the artist copycat was selling a troll print that was a giclee and charging 75 quid for it.
This hobby is really not getting affordable, that's for sure. I remember complaining during the Eine Revolution release that the artist copycat was selling a troll print that was a giclee and charging 75 quid for it.
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 11:02:42 GMT 1, ]
Will it look over-priced in a year, two years time?[/quote]
Probably.
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Will it look over-priced in a year, two years time?[/quote]
Probably.
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Shoot Again on Nov 27, 2014 11:08:08 GMT 1, why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist. True that...guess though some disappointment with that price since some simply won't be able to afford it. And when a release is suddenly priced double to previous releases it just gives an odd feeling in my humble opinion wondering if it really is about supporting the artist or rather his management... Anyhow, without a doubt a quality print...the more I look at it the more I like it. Best of luck to those who can and want to afford it. I assume it will be busy on that site this afternoon...
why are we fighting about pricing? i thought we buy things over here for the love of the image and to support the career of an artist. True that...guess though some disappointment with that price since some simply won't be able to afford it. And when a release is suddenly priced double to previous releases it just gives an odd feeling in my humble opinion wondering if it really is about supporting the artist or rather his management... Anyhow, without a doubt a quality print...the more I look at it the more I like it. Best of luck to those who can and want to afford it. I assume it will be busy on that site this afternoon... Former print was a "giclee"... quality of this one will just make them not comparable IMO ;-) |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by kunstrasen on Nov 27, 2014 11:11:02 GMT 1, True that...guess though some disappointment with that price since some simply won't be able to afford it. And when a release is suddenly priced double to previous releases it just gives an odd feeling in my humble opinion wondering if it really is about supporting the artist or rather his management... Anyhow, without a doubt a quality print...the more I look at it the more I like it. Best of luck to those who can and want to afford it. I assume it will be busy on that site this afternoon... Former print was a "giclee"... quality of this one will just make them not comparable IMO ;-)
...guess that's true. Just think it would have been possible to price this a bit more supporter friendly.
True that...guess though some disappointment with that price since some simply won't be able to afford it. And when a release is suddenly priced double to previous releases it just gives an odd feeling in my humble opinion wondering if it really is about supporting the artist or rather his management... Anyhow, without a doubt a quality print...the more I look at it the more I like it. Best of luck to those who can and want to afford it. I assume it will be busy on that site this afternoon... Former print was a "giclee"... quality of this one will just make them not comparable IMO ;-) ...guess that's true. Just think it would have been possible to price this a bit more supporter friendly. |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 11:12:36 GMT 1, I agree this print seems a lot but I think the image is great.
I imagine its not cheap to produce these in Paris and when you consider this is less than the recent invader which had four editions of 65 at Β£375 and the gold at Β£900 ? and this is only an edition of 60.
I agree this print seems a lot but I think the image is great.
I imagine its not cheap to produce these in Paris and when you consider this is less than the recent invader which had four editions of 65 at Β£375 and the gold at Β£900 ? and this is only an edition of 60.
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by melize on Nov 27, 2014 11:32:51 GMT 1, I agree this print seems a lot but I think the image is great. I imagine its not cheap to produce these in Paris and when you consider this is less than the recent invader which had four editions of 65 at Β£375 and the gold at Β£900 ? and this is only an edition of 60.
I agree this print seems a lot but I think the image is great. I imagine its not cheap to produce these in Paris and when you consider this is less than the recent invader which had four editions of 65 at Β£375 and the gold at Β£900 ? and this is only an edition of 60. I like the image too but it's hardly an apt comparator given the gross disparity in the market for the two artists' works. |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Dr Plip on Nov 27, 2014 11:39:12 GMT 1, Lol. Every person on here should be saying every new print release is too expensive. We're our own worst enemies on here sometimes.
Lol. Every person on here should be saying every new print release is too expensive. We're our own worst enemies on here sometimes. |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Argiebaji on Nov 27, 2014 11:41:15 GMT 1, What quantifies it as being overpriced? Other prints of his sell for more. I agree. If the price was too low everyone would beΒ complaining aboutΒ flippers saturating the market and real collectors missing out on a print theyΒ would like to own and cherish.Β
What he said!
What quantifies it as being overpriced? Other prints of his sell for more. I agree. If the price was too low everyone would beΒ complaining aboutΒ flippers saturating the market and real collectors missing out on a print theyΒ would like to own and cherish.Β What he said! |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 11:57:51 GMT 1, Lol. Every person on here should be saying every new print release is too expensive. We're our own worst enemies on here sometimes.
Got a bit of a Billy Childish look going on there Dr. Plip 
Lol. Every person on here should be saying every new print release is too expensive. We're our own worst enemies on here sometimes. Got a bit of a Billy Childish look going on there Dr. Plip |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Liverpool ste123 on Nov 27, 2014 13:31:05 GMT 1, Soon as I sort this jaxxs, I'll be getting yours from you
Soon as I sort this jaxxs, I'll be getting yours from you |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Print Them All on Nov 27, 2014 13:33:47 GMT 1, With price being the biggest issue disused here we wanted to take a moment and explain few things:
The production of fine art editions was never cheap, and so weren't their retail prices. We're talking about production that is 100% manual, with skilled professionals being involved in every step of it, using specialized high end equipment and materials.
New technology made it possible to produce editions at much MUCH lower costs, but the quality of print and the amount of work that goes into production can not be compared. The edition of 5 giclees or 500 giclees doesn't make a huge difference in costs, and can be done in matter of hours by one person. Also, nobody can't guarantee how ink jet prints will stand the test of time, cause the technology itself has been around for not that long.
We are aware that are prices are not affordable for everyone, but we're offering products that justifies the price. It's like buying an IKEA chair or a Herman Miller chair - both of them will work, but the chances are that the later will keep it's value and staying in great shape for a long time. The fact that lithographs produced at the same place as ours are exhibited at the museums worldwide, proves that too.
So, we're sincerely sorry that some of you feel our editions are priced high compared to others. By all means please buy the one you think is better value and can afford, but comparing our releases with others on the market just isn't fair on many levels.
Thank you for reading and showing interest in our products!
PTA team
With price being the biggest issue disused here we wanted to take a moment and explain few things:
The production of fine art editions was never cheap, and so weren't their retail prices. We're talking about production that is 100% manual, with skilled professionals being involved in every step of it, using specialized high end equipment and materials.
New technology made it possible to produce editions at much MUCH lower costs, but the quality of print and the amount of work that goes into production can not be compared. The edition of 5 giclees or 500 giclees doesn't make a huge difference in costs, and can be done in matter of hours by one person. Also, nobody can't guarantee how ink jet prints will stand the test of time, cause the technology itself has been around for not that long.
We are aware that are prices are not affordable for everyone, but we're offering products that justifies the price. It's like buying an IKEA chair or a Herman Miller chair - both of them will work, but the chances are that the later will keep it's value and staying in great shape for a long time. The fact that lithographs produced at the same place as ours are exhibited at the museums worldwide, proves that too.
So, we're sincerely sorry that some of you feel our editions are priced high compared to others. By all means please buy the one you think is better value and can afford, but comparing our releases with others on the market just isn't fair on many levels.
Thank you for reading and showing interest in our products!
PTA team
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Deleted on Nov 27, 2014 14:02:17 GMT 1, We have a couple of Ernest Zacharevic originals in the upcoming show. Message for details or drop us a mail on sales@reedprojects.no
We have a couple of Ernest Zacharevic originals in the upcoming show. Message for details or drop us a mail on sales@reedprojects.no
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by floubi on Nov 27, 2014 15:03:16 GMT 1, UP!!
UP!!
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by vinylcoholic on Nov 27, 2014 15:04:38 GMT 1, got one Love these supposedly overpriced releases where you get a chance to grab something
got one Love these supposedly overpriced releases where you get a chance to grab something
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by natstan on Nov 27, 2014 15:06:10 GMT 1, Got one in the cart. But can't decide whether to pull the trigger. Love the image but close to Β£400 shipped is hard to stomach!
Got one in the cart. But can't decide whether to pull the trigger. Love the image but close to Β£400 shipped is hard to stomach!
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by BKBOI on Nov 27, 2014 15:07:54 GMT 1, Got one in the cart. But can't decide whether to pull the trigger. Love the image but close to Β£400 shipped is hard to stomach!
Got one in the cart. But can't decide whether to pull the trigger. Love the image but close to Β£400 shipped is hard to stomach! which is a better feeling than just rushing to the final payment screen for the fear of getting the sold out screen. |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by kristakis on Nov 27, 2014 15:09:11 GMT 1, grabbed one too.. great release imo
grabbed one too.. great release imo
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Express Post on Nov 27, 2014 15:11:21 GMT 1, Hi PTA,
Is VAT included in the price? If so, do overseas buyers get the VAT refund?
Hi PTA,
Is VAT included in the price? If so, do overseas buyers get the VAT refund?
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by BKBOI on Nov 27, 2014 15:18:01 GMT 1, Hi PTA, Is VAT included in the price? If so, do overseas buyers get the VAT refund?
Hi PTA, Is VAT included in the price? If so, do overseas buyers get the VAT refund? looked at my receipt and there is an item for VAT. think that got filled if you were a UK buyer. |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by tonio on Nov 27, 2014 15:23:30 GMT 1, Delivery charge's a bitch esp when you r not in the UK. But I really like the mondrian influence.
So why not. PTA needs to look at cheaper shipping, no excuses there.
Delivery charge's a bitch esp when you r not in the UK. But I really like the mondrian influence. So why not. PTA needs to look at cheaper shipping, no excuses there. |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by microfluo on Nov 27, 2014 15:25:42 GMT 1, I've pushed the add button so hectic... there were 2 in my cart so expect some available again soon!
I've pushed the add button so hectic... there were 2 in my cart so expect some available again soon!
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Rouen Cathedral on Nov 27, 2014 15:28:03 GMT 1, Not a huge fan of the print.
Like the incorporation of Mondrian but the print loses something from the similar wall piece.
Not a huge fan of the print.
Like the incorporation of Mondrian but the print loses something from the similar wall piece.
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by doctor on Nov 27, 2014 16:01:40 GMT 1, This is going to look great floated in a white box frame with a nice bright yellow spacer
This is going to look great floated in a white box frame with a nice bright yellow spacer
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Argiebaji on Nov 27, 2014 16:44:57 GMT 1, Great Street piece! Super print. . I bet this will look immense when it arrives... Can't wait!
Classier than a stuffed bear with a flag?
Great Street piece! Super print. . I bet this will look immense when it arrives... Can't wait!
Classier than a stuffed bear with a flag?
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