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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by FΠ― on Apr 11, 2015 11:49:53 GMT 1, Why does it matter how long it takes. 'some' artists stencil something in half an hour and then charge Β£100k for it. that is a really silly observation. It clearly matters to the management as they stated in their initial post. And I know you need to hype this artist to flip it, but don't expect everyone to just comment 'love it'. The execution is bad, the idea is bad, the price is insulting. Though now i'll probably be banned for disagreeing with a forum guardian. The ones listed at GP...did GP buy them and then will sell them on their ebay account as per usual?
however its wrong to be defensive and call every good comment a hype just because you do not agree
Why does it matter how long it takes. 'some' artists stencil something in half an hour and then charge Β£100k for it. that is a really silly observation. It clearly matters to the management as they stated in their initial post. And I know you need to hype this artist to flip it, but don't expect everyone to just comment 'love it'. The execution is bad, the idea is bad, the price is insulting. Though now i'll probably be banned for disagreeing with a forum guardian. The ones listed at GP...did GP buy them and then will sell them on their ebay account as per usual? Disagree all you like, it is a discussion. however its wrong to be defensive and call every good comment a hype just because you do not agree |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by eschiff on Apr 11, 2015 13:43:59 GMT 1, It clearly matters to the management as they stated in their initial post.Β And I know you need to hype this artist to flip it, but don't expect everyone to just comment 'love it'.Β The execution is bad, the idea is bad, the price is insulting.Β Though now i'll probably be banned for disagreeing with a forum guardian.Β The ones listed at GP...did GP buy them and then will sell them on their ebay account as per usual? But then again, your first comment about time of painting and charging a price is not valid in my opinion. I remember an English artist that didnt spend any minute on his art, yet makes millions.
Fella, I beg you to read the posts before responding. The gallery emphasised that this took the artist four days with the implication being that's a lot of work. And before you get to ridiculous comparisons, whatever artist you're thinking of? Do they have more than three print releases and a few group shows to their name? It's not the point how long it took, that's just a funny detail the gallery put in, the point is that an artist whose career spans about four days is charging a shit load of money. And you know why? He's hooked up with a management team who have an interest in extracting as much as they can. Which is their (and his) prerogative. But to pretend this is well priced or even artistically appealing is to have your head in the sand. Anyway, back to the other board.
It clearly matters to the management as they stated in their initial post.Β And I know you need to hype this artist to flip it, but don't expect everyone to just comment 'love it'.Β The execution is bad, the idea is bad, the price is insulting.Β Though now i'll probably be banned for disagreeing with a forum guardian.Β The ones listed at GP...did GP buy them and then will sell them on their ebay account as per usual? But then again, your first comment about time of painting and charging a price is not valid in my opinion. I remember an English artist that didnt spend any minute on his art, yet makes millions. Fella, I beg you to read the posts before responding. The gallery emphasised that this took the artist four days with the implication being that's a lot of work. And before you get to ridiculous comparisons, whatever artist you're thinking of? Do they have more than three print releases and a few group shows to their name? It's not the point how long it took, that's just a funny detail the gallery put in, the point is that an artist whose career spans about four days is charging a shit load of money. And you know why? He's hooked up with a management team who have an interest in extracting as much as they can. Which is their (and his) prerogative. But to pretend this is well priced or even artistically appealing is to have your head in the sand. Anyway, back to the other board. |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by alexdb on Apr 11, 2015 13:58:47 GMT 1, But then again, your first comment about time of painting and charging a price is not valid in my opinion. I remember an English artist that didnt spend any minute on his art, yet makes millions. Fella, I beg you to read the posts before responding. The gallery emphasised that this took the artist four days with the implication being that's a lot of work. And before you get to ridiculous comparisons, whatever artist you're thinking of? Do they have more than three print releases and a few group shows to their name? It's not the point how long it took, that's just a funny detail the gallery put in, the point is that an artist whose career spans about four days is charging a s**t load of money. And you know why? He's hooked up with a management team who have an interest in extracting as much as they can. Which is their (and his) prerogative. But to pretend this is well priced or even artistically appealing is to have your head in the sand. Anyway, back to the other board.
I buy art because I buy it of the work itself not how much time an artist has spent on making the print (if the artist even makes the print him/herself). I am not discussing if the price of this work is too much, I just don't think your thoughts of the physical days of work on art in combination of the revenue it makes is valid.
But then again, your first comment about time of painting and charging a price is not valid in my opinion. I remember an English artist that didnt spend any minute on his art, yet makes millions. Fella, I beg you to read the posts before responding. The gallery emphasised that this took the artist four days with the implication being that's a lot of work. And before you get to ridiculous comparisons, whatever artist you're thinking of? Do they have more than three print releases and a few group shows to their name? It's not the point how long it took, that's just a funny detail the gallery put in, the point is that an artist whose career spans about four days is charging a s**t load of money. And you know why? He's hooked up with a management team who have an interest in extracting as much as they can. Which is their (and his) prerogative. But to pretend this is well priced or even artistically appealing is to have your head in the sand. Anyway, back to the other board. Perhaps I am reading not well, or as non-native english speaker I do not understand, but from the gallery's message here on the thread I can't see that the gallery emphasis this four days work is a lot work according to them. I buy art because I buy it of the work itself not how much time an artist has spent on making the print (if the artist even makes the print him/herself). I am not discussing if the price of this work is too much, I just don't think your thoughts of the physical days of work on art in combination of the revenue it makes is valid. |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by coller on Apr 11, 2015 17:45:29 GMT 1, These prices seem perfectly fine, although if they had a non-handfinished version for less than half price then I'd be more suspicious of why they are charging as much for these. Hard to defend Zach's handfinishing style as meriting a much higher price when he is doing his squiggle-thing as the handfinishing.
A lot of people think something should be worth more because it's on a piece of wood, even if it's still printed on there; that makes no sense to me. But overall I don't see much to argue over here.
These prices seem perfectly fine, although if they had a non-handfinished version for less than half price then I'd be more suspicious of why they are charging as much for these. Hard to defend Zach's handfinishing style as meriting a much higher price when he is doing his squiggle-thing as the handfinishing.
A lot of people think something should be worth more because it's on a piece of wood, even if it's still printed on there; that makes no sense to me. But overall I don't see much to argue over here.
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Dungle on Apr 11, 2015 19:45:55 GMT 1, Weak, expensive pieces IMO.
Maybe I don't get it, but why are these so good and commanding such a high price.
Weak, expensive pieces IMO.
Maybe I don't get it, but why are these so good and commanding such a high price.
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by banks1986 on Apr 12, 2015 21:22:25 GMT 1, Agreed Dungle. Weak and pricey.
Agreed Dungle. Weak and pricey.
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by coller on Apr 13, 2015 3:27:59 GMT 1, The price doesn't really bother me; it seems like anything hand-finished by him would cost around that at this point on the secondary market. Just not a fan of the pieces themselves. Those feet.
The price doesn't really bother me; it seems like anything hand-finished by him would cost around that at this point on the secondary market. Just not a fan of the pieces themselves. Those feet.
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by BKBOI on Apr 13, 2015 3:59:27 GMT 1, There are a couple that look good. There are some pieces where it looks like he ran out of either time, spray paint or ideas to fill the space.
I wish all the best for EZ. He is a great guy with lots of talent. I am sure this will still sell out.
There are a couple that look good. There are some pieces where it looks like he ran out of either time, spray paint or ideas to fill the space.
I wish all the best for EZ. He is a great guy with lots of talent. I am sure this will still sell out.
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 10:39:12 GMT 1, This is a very poor example of an artist's current popularity being exploited, the "rushed" and simplicit execution takes away from The image, it certainly does not add to it...
And the purpose of an HPM should at most times emphasise the artwork not be thrown in to justify a higher price? This is not a healthy approach imo..
Another great artist with talent whom In 4 yrs will just get lost in the shuffle..
I look back at a number of artists that people were loosing their hats over just a few yrs back and tent are hardly ever mentioned anymore and now we have the same.. these galleries see the hype with arusts like.S.chevrier, Ernest, etc..
And these are artists who, if managed right could have potentially long sustaining careers instead their being treated similar to a pop artist a Britney spears if you will, milk the cow while you can before people get bored and take notice of the next best thing.
Sorry for the rant but it's upsetting seeing great talent get utilized for the hype/profit aspect.
This is a very poor example of an artist's current popularity being exploited, the "rushed" and simplicit execution takes away from The image, it certainly does not add to it...
And the purpose of an HPM should at most times emphasise the artwork not be thrown in to justify a higher price? This is not a healthy approach imo..
Another great artist with talent whom In 4 yrs will just get lost in the shuffle..
I look back at a number of artists that people were loosing their hats over just a few yrs back and tent are hardly ever mentioned anymore and now we have the same.. these galleries see the hype with arusts like.S.chevrier, Ernest, etc..
And these are artists who, if managed right could have potentially long sustaining careers instead their being treated similar to a pop artist a Britney spears if you will, milk the cow while you can before people get bored and take notice of the next best thing.
Sorry for the rant but it's upsetting seeing great talent get utilized for the hype/profit aspect.
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by neopzz on Apr 13, 2015 12:25:04 GMT 1, love his works but this time it's a little bit too lazy for me...
love his works but this time it's a little bit too lazy for me...
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 19:51:34 GMT 1, Hi,
for sale two prints that aren't going to make the wall:
Roamcouch - Revolution Β£300 + postage & pp
Ernest Zacharevic - Different Strokes Β£300 + postage & pp
The Zacharevic is still in a tube, only took them out once to inspect. The Roamcouch has been stored flat since purchase. These are stock photo's but I could take a pic of the actual print if needed. Offers will be considered. Based in the Netherlands but will ship worldwide.
Cheers.
Hi, for sale two prints that aren't going to make the wall: Roamcouch - Revolution Β£300 + postage & ppErnest Zacharevic - Different Strokes Β£300 + postage & ppThe Zacharevic is still in a tube, only took them out once to inspect. The Roamcouch has been stored flat since purchase. These are stock photo's but I could take a pic of the actual print if needed. Offers will be considered. Based in the Netherlands but will ship worldwide. Cheers. |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by wishingiwaslucky on Apr 14, 2015 20:13:07 GMT 1, They should have got Whatson to do the colour hand finishing like Penang.....then they would be cool me reckons...
They should have got Whatson to do the colour hand finishing like Penang.....then they would be cool me reckons...
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by sal on Apr 17, 2015 19:47:02 GMT 1, Ernest Zacharevic is releasing a new, very limited edition of HPMs via BlackAppleArt.com:
"Blossom"
Hand Finished Wood Print by Ernest Zacharevic
APRIL 17th 12:00 PST
Title: "Blossom"
Edition: 30 (each unique)
Year: 2014
Size: 29" X 17" X 1/2"
Medium: Color print on 1/2 inch solid birch wood plank hand finished with oils, acrylic and spray paint
Details: Signed and numbered by artist with certificate of authenticity
Price: $1,300
Available on April 17th 2015 @ Los Angeles 12:00PM New York 3:00PM UK 8:00PM Norway 9:00PM via BlackAppleArt.com!
Ernest Zacharevic is releasing a new, very limited edition of HPMs via BlackAppleArt.com: "Blossom" Hand Finished Wood Print by Ernest Zacharevic APRIL 17th 12:00 PST Title: "Blossom" Edition: 30 (each unique) Year: 2014 Size: 29" X 17" X 1/2" Medium: Color print on 1/2 inch solid birch wood plank hand finished with oils, acrylic and spray paint Details: Signed and numbered by artist with certificate of authenticity Price: $1,300 Available on April 17th 2015 @ Los Angeles 12:00PM New York 3:00PM UK 8:00PM Norway 9:00PM via BlackAppleArt.com! |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by BKBOI on Apr 17, 2015 20:08:37 GMT 1, 
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Neate Michael on Apr 17, 2015 20:15:22 GMT 1, 4 sold so far.!
4 sold so far.!
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by wishingiwaslucky on Apr 17, 2015 20:30:34 GMT 1, Maybe he got freaked out by the no legged girls and just froze in fear....3 days later he came round to realise he has one day to rush the lot off in haste before sleeping through 2 nights solid with rather vivid dreams....
Maybe he got freaked out by the no legged girls and just froze in fear....3 days later he came round to realise he has one day to rush the lot off in haste before sleeping through 2 nights solid with rather vivid dreams....
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Dr Plip on Apr 17, 2015 20:40:53 GMT 1, Maybe he got freaked out by the no legged girls and just froze in fear....3 days later he came round to realise he has one day to rush the lot off in haste before sleeping through 2 nights solid with rather vivid dreams....
Maybe he got freaked out by the no legged girls and just froze in fear....3 days later he came round to realise he has one day to rush the lot off in haste before sleeping through 2 nights solid with rather vivid dreams.... Allow me... |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Dibbs 45 on Apr 17, 2015 20:47:27 GMT 1, I'm a fan of Zachs work and been following him for awhile now, but a printed face and some slapdash paint. Not for me.
I'm a fan of Zachs work and been following him for awhile now, but a printed face and some slapdash paint. Not for me.
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by coller on Apr 17, 2015 21:37:15 GMT 1, I find it interesting that half of the ones already sold have the funny feet thing going on, while there are plenty remaining that look more "finished."
I find it interesting that half of the ones already sold have the funny feet thing going on, while there are plenty remaining that look more "finished."
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Dr Plip on Apr 17, 2015 21:45:29 GMT 1, I find it interesting that half of the ones already sold have the funny feet thing going on, while there are plenty remaining that look more "finished."
I find it interesting that half of the ones already sold have the funny feet thing going on, while there are plenty remaining that look more "finished." How on earth has the "Enjoy Graffiti" one not sold? You could just cut that central piece out and display that on its own. |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Dr Plip on Apr 17, 2015 22:03:41 GMT 1, Anyone else look at these and think they look like Ernest Zacharevic has collaborated with himself? Like two artists have worked on the same piece.
Anyone else look at these and think they look like Ernest Zacharevic has collaborated with himself? Like two artists have worked on the same piece.
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by DREAMERS on Apr 17, 2015 22:46:02 GMT 1, I find it interesting that half of the ones already sold have the funny feet thing going on, while there are plenty remaining that look more "finished." How on earth has the "Enjoy Graffiti" one not sold? You could just cut that central piece out and display that on its own.
That's the only one I would buy...
I find it interesting that half of the ones already sold have the funny feet thing going on, while there are plenty remaining that look more "finished." How on earth has the "Enjoy Graffiti" one not sold? You could just cut that central piece out and display that on its own. That's the only one I would buy... |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Hairbland on Apr 17, 2015 22:51:10 GMT 1, I'm a fan of Zachs work and been following him for awhile now, but a printed face and some slapdash paint. Not for me.
For similar prices the Dennings so much nicer, with much better sell through. And all original one of a kind.
I'm a fan of Zachs work and been following him for awhile now, but a printed face and some slapdash paint. Not for me. For similar prices the Dennings so much nicer, with much better sell through. And all original one of a kind. |
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Deleted on Apr 17, 2015 22:54:11 GMT 1, This coming from the same guy that made Style Wars..wow.
This coming from the same guy that made Style Wars..wow.
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by tomawal on Apr 18, 2015 0:40:47 GMT 1, Yes good work!!!
Yes good work!!!
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by wishingiwaslucky on Apr 18, 2015 1:40:18 GMT 1, Maybe he will pop round and finish them off after sobering up and realising the error of his ways. Still only 8 sold
Maybe he will pop round and finish them off after sobering up and realising the error of his ways. Still only 8 sold
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by Unica on Apr 18, 2015 2:30:36 GMT 1, I usually like his work, but an easy pass for me. Expensive and looks unfinished, don't really know why the kid is stretching his face or why. I'd be interested at half the price or if he they looked liked they took more than 5 mins of his attention.
I usually like his work, but an easy pass for me. Expensive and looks unfinished, don't really know why the kid is stretching his face or why. I'd be interested at half the price or if he they looked liked they took more than 5 mins of his attention.
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by neopzz on Apr 18, 2015 10:33:38 GMT 1, he cannot stop to copy MONDRIAN and maybe find new ideas... ?
he cannot stop to copy MONDRIAN and maybe find new ideas... ?
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Ernest Zacharevic π±πΉ Penang, Malaysia Street Art , by natstan on Apr 18, 2015 14:14:29 GMT 1, he cannot stop to copy MONDRIAN and maybe find new ideas... ?
Not defending him but maybe just my two cents worth..
I actually don't think he is 'copying' mondrian. If you take a look at how he basically painted each panel and then grouped them together, each and every piece is an individual portrait by itself. I liked how he made use of an iconic image and turned it into a 'playground' for the children.
Also, this is probably the second time this image is painted in public spaces (the print is really just part of the original outdoor one). I did ask him why did he choose this image again for this commission (and whether he was asked to repeat the image at the request of the hotel owner) and he said he created this based in what he wanted to propose and paint first and foremost. Isn't the freedom to choose what to paint off the back of your head something to be encouraged? I am guessing in the context of the space he was given to paint, the nature of the establishment and the fact that he was working around the idea creating a canvas versus a building facade, he feels it suitable to have this image repeated in an indoor space. As long as he doesn't do this a third time, this seems fine in my eyes.
he cannot stop to copy MONDRIAN and maybe find new ideas... ? Not defending him but maybe just my two cents worth.. I actually don't think he is 'copying' mondrian. If you take a look at how he basically painted each panel and then grouped them together, each and every piece is an individual portrait by itself. I liked how he made use of an iconic image and turned it into a 'playground' for the children. Also, this is probably the second time this image is painted in public spaces (the print is really just part of the original outdoor one). I did ask him why did he choose this image again for this commission (and whether he was asked to repeat the image at the request of the hotel owner) and he said he created this based in what he wanted to propose and paint first and foremost. Isn't the freedom to choose what to paint off the back of your head something to be encouraged? I am guessing in the context of the space he was given to paint, the nature of the establishment and the fact that he was working around the idea creating a canvas versus a building facade, he feels it suitable to have this image repeated in an indoor space. As long as he doesn't do this a third time, this seems fine in my eyes. |
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