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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Dice on Jul 29, 2014 8:48:46 GMT 1, The 1/1 heavy weaponry with the coloured background was 80k hey. That doesn't sound too bad given that the plain edition/25 probably goes for about the same? 123k not 80k.
Oh yes thx
The 1/1 heavy weaponry with the coloured background was 80k hey. That doesn't sound too bad given that the plain edition/25 probably goes for about the same? 123k not 80k. Oh yes thx
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 9:33:06 GMT 1, The 1/1 heavy weaponry with the coloured background was 80k hey. That doesn't sound too bad given that the plain edition/25 probably goes for about the same? 123k not 80k. Same difference, lets be honest though, what can you get for 43k nowadays?.
The 1/1 heavy weaponry with the coloured background was 80k hey. That doesn't sound too bad given that the plain edition/25 probably goes for about the same? 123k not 80k. Same difference, lets be honest though, what can you get for 43k nowadays?.
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Invaded 420 on Jul 29, 2014 9:39:43 GMT 1, Same difference, lets be honest though, what can you get for 43k nowadays?. i could get a couple more months in holland for that ; ) send me back!
Same difference, lets be honest though, what can you get for 43k nowadays?. i could get a couple more months in holland for that ; ) send me back!
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Hubble Bubble on Jul 29, 2014 10:40:30 GMT 1, Same difference, lets be honest though, what can you get for 43k nowadays?. i could get a couple more months in holland for that ; ) send me back! 1. i could get a couple more months in holland 2. A home 3. Wayne Rooney for a day
This is a list that could run and run…
Same difference, lets be honest though, what can you get for 43k nowadays?. i could get a couple more months in holland for that ; ) send me back! 1. i could get a couple more months in holland 2. A home 3. Wayne Rooney for a day
This is a list that could run and run…
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Chrisp on Jul 29, 2014 11:11:10 GMT 1, Not sold ( as of 23 july ) Bulldog poodle. 30k Christ with shopping bags 20k Weston super mare (both ) 11k print// 25k on board Wrong war 11k Pulp fiction 25k Grin reaper 11k Soup cans ( blue and red on cream ) 22k Soup cans ( gold on grey ) 19k Soup cans ( blue and red on grey ) 22k All 3 palestine photos // 25 k each Kate ( original colorway ) 85k Kate moss set of 6 500k Heavy weaponry 80k Lenin on skates 75k Family target 116k Heavy weaponry multicolor 123k Laugh now ( red canvas ) 250k Bullet proof david 500k Watchtower ( both ) 35k each Bronze rat offers in region of 360k The key to making....offers in region of 100k Stop esso offers in region of 265k Sid vicous target offers in region of 275k Monkey queen canvas offers in region of 720k Turf war canvas 600k Napalm offers 750k trolleys offers in region of 1m UFO offers in region of 1.2m There were some additional pieces ( not on display ) like monkey detonator, avon & somerset constabulary in 'pink', mona lisa and laugh now in pink, a paranoid canvas and a unique barcode canvas but not sure what sold and what not. Cheers for those details.
I will take the lot, is it Paypal?
Not sold ( as of 23 july ) Bulldog poodle. 30k Christ with shopping bags 20k Weston super mare (both ) 11k print// 25k on board Wrong war 11k Pulp fiction 25k Grin reaper 11k Soup cans ( blue and red on cream ) 22k Soup cans ( gold on grey ) 19k Soup cans ( blue and red on grey ) 22k All 3 palestine photos // 25 k each Kate ( original colorway ) 85k Kate moss set of 6 500k Heavy weaponry 80k Lenin on skates 75k Family target 116k Heavy weaponry multicolor 123k Laugh now ( red canvas ) 250k Bullet proof david 500k Watchtower ( both ) 35k each Bronze rat offers in region of 360k The key to making....offers in region of 100k Stop esso offers in region of 265k Sid vicous target offers in region of 275k Monkey queen canvas offers in region of 720k Turf war canvas 600k Napalm offers 750k trolleys offers in region of 1m UFO offers in region of 1.2m There were some additional pieces ( not on display ) like monkey detonator, avon & somerset constabulary in 'pink', mona lisa and laugh now in pink, a paranoid canvas and a unique barcode canvas but not sure what sold and what not. Cheers for those details. I will take the lot, is it Paypal?
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by johnnyh on Jul 29, 2014 11:21:35 GMT 1, Well knowing Laz's reputation I reckon you will have to pay pal !!! Or he'll tell you to
Well knowing Laz's reputation I reckon you will have to pay pal !!! Or he'll tell you to
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by naughtyshorty on Jul 29, 2014 13:31:52 GMT 1, Really just reading this thread fresh and not having been to the show, it really is amazing how the prices are now in a different stratosphere. Average dude is now well and truly priced out apart from entry level prints which are now few and far between. It's great for banksy and I have no problem with it, it's just a shame that the main unintended consequence of his success is to the detriment of the majority. Amazing times
Really just reading this thread fresh and not having been to the show, it really is amazing how the prices are now in a different stratosphere. Average dude is now well and truly priced out apart from entry level prints which are now few and far between. It's great for banksy and I have no problem with it, it's just a shame that the main unintended consequence of his success is to the detriment of the majority. Amazing times
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by sheep on Jul 29, 2014 14:05:46 GMT 1, .
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by rustledust on Jul 29, 2014 16:55:36 GMT 1, Really glad I got down to see this.
I overheard a guy asking about prices and they didn't sound too bad in all honesty. I now assume they were all for standard prints, given the mental pricing in the list above.
Really glad I got down to see this.
I overheard a guy asking about prices and they didn't sound too bad in all honesty. I now assume they were all for standard prints, given the mental pricing in the list above.
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by commissioner on Jul 29, 2014 21:08:07 GMT 1, 5000
5000
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by naughtyshorty on Jul 30, 2014 13:06:21 GMT 1, Great pics. Thanks for taking and posting
Great pics. Thanks for taking and posting
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 14:02:16 GMT 1, I hope Laz managed to sell all the art in this retrospective.
Sothebys is great for selling art someone said.
I hope Laz managed to sell all the art in this retrospective.
Sothebys is great for selling art someone said.
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 15:28:50 GMT 1, Those petrol head stickers in that cabinet annoy me. Mine ain't round. Want 1
Those petrol head stickers in that cabinet annoy me. Mine ain't round. Want 1
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by commissioner on Jul 30, 2014 22:54:04 GMT 1, Me too.. I tried...
Me too.. I tried...
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by kendo on Aug 4, 2014 13:47:58 GMT 1, Barcode was my favourite from the show:
I'd love to own the print someday!
Barcode was my favourite from the show:
I'd love to own the print someday!
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by kendo on Aug 4, 2014 13:48:56 GMT 1, On our travels we accidently stumbled across this:
Nice stumble
On our travels we accidently stumbled across this:
Nice stumble
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 14:01:20 GMT 1, Jesus that piece was almost as incoherent as your usual rants
fuck me 'Mickey mouse' ...I'd at least learn a little about the artist I'm going to spunk 10k prior to looking like an utter p*ick in the gallery with jumped up little shits trying to look down at me - sigh
Jesus that piece was almost as incoherent as your usual rants fuck me 'Mickey mouse' ...I'd at least learn a little about the artist I'm going to spunk 10k prior to looking like an utter p*ick in the gallery with jumped up little shits trying to look down at me - sigh
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Dungle on Aug 13, 2014 14:12:46 GMT 1, Jesus that piece was almost as incoherent as your usual rants f**k me 'Mickey mouse' ...I'd at least learn a little about the artist I'm going to spunk 10k prior to looking like an utter p*ick in the gallery with jumped up little s**ts trying to look down at me - sigh What a fucking embarrassment that article is. Complete idiot.
Jesus that piece was almost as incoherent as your usual rants f**k me 'Mickey mouse' ...I'd at least learn a little about the artist I'm going to spunk 10k prior to looking like an utter p*ick in the gallery with jumped up little s**ts trying to look down at me - sigh What a fucking embarrassment that article is. Complete idiot.
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 14:16:24 GMT 1, Ugh fuck that lady. Tweeting about investing. I'm glad she walked away unhappy
Ugh fuck that lady. Tweeting about investing. I'm glad she walked away unhappy
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 14:24:41 GMT 1, Ugh f**k that lady. Tweeting about investing. I'm glad she walked away unhappy Had to laugh at Steves Tweet response "I fucking hate it when that happens, I'll crack some skulls 4u" Bloody funny
Ugh f**k that lady. Tweeting about investing. I'm glad she walked away unhappy Had to laugh at Steves Tweet response "I fucking hate it when that happens, I'll crack some skulls 4u" Bloody funny
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Coach on Aug 13, 2014 14:40:09 GMT 1, Jesus that piece was almost as incoherent as your usual rants f**k me 'Mickey mouse' ...I'd at least learn a little about the artist I'm going to spunk 10k prior to looking like an utter p*ick in the gallery with jumped up little s**ts trying to look down at me - sigh What a f**king embarrassment that article is. Complete idiot.
What was £4k at the show? Silver flags maybe?
Jesus that piece was almost as incoherent as your usual rants f**k me 'Mickey mouse' ...I'd at least learn a little about the artist I'm going to spunk 10k prior to looking like an utter p*ick in the gallery with jumped up little s**ts trying to look down at me - sigh What a f**king embarrassment that article is. Complete idiot. What was £4k at the show? Silver flags maybe?
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by londonboy on Aug 13, 2014 14:50:58 GMT 1, What a f**king embarrassment that article is. Complete idiot. What was £4k at the show? Silver flags maybe?
For 4k I might be tempted to sell mine..
Pm me with offers.. Lol
What a f**king embarrassment that article is. Complete idiot. What was £4k at the show? Silver flags maybe? For 4k I might be tempted to sell mine.. Pm me with offers.. Lol
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 15:15:17 GMT 1, Jesus that piece was almost as incoherent as your usual rants f**k me 'Mickey mouse' ...I'd at least learn a little about the artist I'm going to spunk 10k prior to looking like an utter p*ick in the gallery with jumped up little s**ts trying to look down at me - sigh What a f**king embarrassment that article is. Complete idiot. You either can't read or miss the point completely.
The article is about the attitude of Sothebys staff to a potential buyer.
It's not a criticism of Banky or Lazarides.
and believe it or not most people are not obsessive Banksy fans.
Jesus that piece was almost as incoherent as your usual rants f**k me 'Mickey mouse' ...I'd at least learn a little about the artist I'm going to spunk 10k prior to looking like an utter p*ick in the gallery with jumped up little s**ts trying to look down at me - sigh What a f**king embarrassment that article is. Complete idiot. You either can't read or miss the point completely.
The article is about the attitude of Sothebys staff to a potential buyer.
It's not a criticism of Banky or Lazarides.
and believe it or not most people are not obsessive Banksy fans.
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Dr Plip on Aug 13, 2014 15:22:19 GMT 1, What a f**king embarrassment that article is. Complete idiot. You either can't read or miss the point completely.
The article is about the attitude of Sothebys staff to a potential buyer.
It's not a criticism of Banky or Lazarides.
and believe it or not most people are not obsessive Banksy fans.
Some are obsessive Banksy haters.
What a f**king embarrassment that article is. Complete idiot. You either can't read or miss the point completely.
The article is about the attitude of Sothebys staff to a potential buyer.
It's not a criticism of Banky or Lazarides.
and believe it or not most people are not obsessive Banksy fans.
Some are obsessive Banksy haters.
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by craigf on Aug 13, 2014 15:24:30 GMT 1, Jesus that piece was almost as incoherent as your usual rants f**k me 'Mickey mouse' ...I'd at least learn a little about the artist I'm going to spunk 10k prior to looking like an utter p*ick in the gallery with jumped up little s**ts trying to look down at me - sigh The writer has a chip on their shoulder the size of a small building. Whether she will admit it or not the piece she enquired about was more than she could afford and she was clueless about its title, meaning or pretty much anything other than one of the characters depicted (I guess she knew the one on the other side was Ronald McDonald, whether she recognised the middle image who knows). She didn't even get the point it was an unauthorised retrospective so nothing to do with Banksy other than his art was on show.
When I went there was a lady there who all she wanted was an original to put on the wall. She pointed to one of the canvases and asked how much, the sotheby's assistant politely indicated the amount and edition size to which the lady enquiring said "it can't be an original as it's not a 1/1". More money than sense
Jesus that piece was almost as incoherent as your usual rants f**k me 'Mickey mouse' ...I'd at least learn a little about the artist I'm going to spunk 10k prior to looking like an utter p*ick in the gallery with jumped up little s**ts trying to look down at me - sigh The writer has a chip on their shoulder the size of a small building. Whether she will admit it or not the piece she enquired about was more than she could afford and she was clueless about its title, meaning or pretty much anything other than one of the characters depicted (I guess she knew the one on the other side was Ronald McDonald, whether she recognised the middle image who knows). She didn't even get the point it was an unauthorised retrospective so nothing to do with Banksy other than his art was on show. When I went there was a lady there who all she wanted was an original to put on the wall. She pointed to one of the canvases and asked how much, the sotheby's assistant politely indicated the amount and edition size to which the lady enquiring said "it can't be an original as it's not a 1/1". More money than sense
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Dr Plip on Aug 13, 2014 15:26:52 GMT 1, I like that she added Steve Lazarides to her bucket list.
Edit: Also, regarding the gallery staff: "I caught him giving me the up and down look." - I get that ALL THE TIME when I walk into galleries. Trust me, it is NOT a sexual thing. Not so far anyway.
I like that she added Steve Lazarides to her bucket list. Edit: Also, regarding the gallery staff: "I caught him giving me the up and down look." - I get that ALL THE TIME when I walk into galleries. Trust me, it is NOT a sexual thing. Not so far anyway.
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by met on Aug 14, 2014 5:58:53 GMT 1, Jesus that piece was almost as incoherent as your usual rants f**k me 'Mickey mouse' ...I'd at least learn a little about the artist I'm going to spunk 10k prior to looking like an utter p*ick in the gallery with jumped up little s**ts trying to look down at me - sigh The writer has a chip on their shoulder the size of a small building. Whether she will admit it or not the piece she enquired about was more than she could afford and she was clueless about its title, meaning or pretty much anything other than one of the characters depicted (I guess she knew the one on the other side was Ronald McDonald, whether she recognised the middle image who knows). She didn't even get the point it was an unauthorised retrospective so nothing to do with Banksy other than his art was on show. When I went there was a lady there who all she wanted was an original to put on the wall. She pointed to one of the canvases and asked how much, the sotheby's assistant politely indicated the amount and edition size to which the lady enquiring said "it can't be an original as it's not a 1/1". More money than sense
Based on your description above, the "More money than sense" evaluation seems overly harsh to me.
Editioned works are by definition unoriginal. That woman's position is consistent with how the art world generally considers originals.
It was with Banksy's stencil-based, editioned canvases (and only a few years ago, not necessarily when released) that I first noticed some sellers attempting to alter the meaning of "original". Others, especially new collectors, followed suit without question. The term was thus broadened and arguably corrupted in the context of Banksy, no longer strictly referring to one-of-a-kind pieces.
Instead of the distinguishing factor being uniqueness, as it is in the wider art market, what constitutes an original with the Banksy market is now determined by medium. And so, for example, any one of 25 identical Banksy paintings is an original if it's a hand-sprayed stencil — whether on canvas, board, paper, or other surface. The silly result (at least to my mind) is that an editioned work, a multiple and one of many, can simultaneously be deemed "original".
This shift is market-driven. Those with vested financial interests care less about terminology. They're happy for definitions to change, to become less strict, provided they also benefit. That's the case with private collectors, gallerists, other dealers, and auction houses looking or potentially looking to sell. From a business perspective this makes complete sense. A painting is easier to offload, it's sexier, and the price it can command is higher when marketed as an "original" rather than simply a "multiple".
Referring to editioned work as originals has since become more common, though it's still largely confined to the street art / urban art ghetto-niche market.
Property developers and estate agents behave in a similar manner. They'll try their best to rebrand areas to make them more attractive to buyers. For the Londoners here, remember when London Fields was called West Hackney, or when South Clapham was just known as Streatham?
Jesus that piece was almost as incoherent as your usual rants f**k me 'Mickey mouse' ...I'd at least learn a little about the artist I'm going to spunk 10k prior to looking like an utter p*ick in the gallery with jumped up little s**ts trying to look down at me - sigh The writer has a chip on their shoulder the size of a small building. Whether she will admit it or not the piece she enquired about was more than she could afford and she was clueless about its title, meaning or pretty much anything other than one of the characters depicted (I guess she knew the one on the other side was Ronald McDonald, whether she recognised the middle image who knows). She didn't even get the point it was an unauthorised retrospective so nothing to do with Banksy other than his art was on show. When I went there was a lady there who all she wanted was an original to put on the wall. She pointed to one of the canvases and asked how much, the sotheby's assistant politely indicated the amount and edition size to which the lady enquiring said "it can't be an original as it's not a 1/1". More money than sense
Based on your description above, the "More money than sense" evaluation seems overly harsh to me. Editioned works are by definition unoriginal. That woman's position is consistent with how the art world generally considers originals. It was with Banksy's stencil-based, editioned canvases (and only a few years ago, not necessarily when released) that I first noticed some sellers attempting to alter the meaning of "original". Others, especially new collectors, followed suit without question. The term was thus broadened and arguably corrupted in the context of Banksy, no longer strictly referring to one-of-a-kind pieces. Instead of the distinguishing factor being uniqueness, as it is in the wider art market, what constitutes an original with the Banksy market is now determined by medium. And so, for example, any one of 25 identical Banksy paintings is an original if it's a hand-sprayed stencil — whether on canvas, board, paper, or other surface. The silly result (at least to my mind) is that an editioned work, a multiple and one of many, can simultaneously be deemed "original". This shift is market-driven. Those with vested financial interests care less about terminology. They're happy for definitions to change, to become less strict, provided they also benefit. That's the case with private collectors, gallerists, other dealers, and auction houses looking or potentially looking to sell. From a business perspective this makes complete sense. A painting is easier to offload, it's sexier, and the price it can command is higher when marketed as an "original" rather than simply a "multiple". Referring to editioned work as originals has since become more common, though it's still largely confined to the street art / urban art ghetto-niche market. Property developers and estate agents behave in a similar manner. They'll try their best to rebrand areas to make them more attractive to buyers. For the Londoners here, remember when London Fields was called West Hackney, or when South Clapham was just known as Streatham?
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Hairbland on Aug 14, 2014 8:57:33 GMT 1, What a f**king embarrassment that article is. Complete idiot. You either can't read or miss the point completely.
The article is about the attitude of Sothebys staff to a potential buyer.
It's not a criticism of Banky or Lazarides.
and believe it or not most people are not obsessive Banksy fans.
I disagree. If you click through to her web site she's described as an up and comer in the art gallery scene, starting at age 18. So she has to have some idea of how this is done. I view her diatribe as a pr attempt (very Banksy, by the way) and poorly written to boot. Not bad looking though, bit more than a slapper.
What a f**king embarrassment that article is. Complete idiot. You either can't read or miss the point completely.
The article is about the attitude of Sothebys staff to a potential buyer.
It's not a criticism of Banky or Lazarides.
and believe it or not most people are not obsessive Banksy fans.
I disagree. If you click through to her web site she's described as an up and comer in the art gallery scene, starting at age 18. So she has to have some idea of how this is done. I view her diatribe as a pr attempt (very Banksy, by the way) and poorly written to boot. Not bad looking though, bit more than a slapper.
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BANKSY The Unauthorised Retrospective , by Deleted on Aug 14, 2014 9:02:06 GMT 1, You either can't read or miss the point completely.
The article is about the attitude of Sothebys staff to a potential buyer.
It's not a criticism of Banky or Lazarides.
and believe it or not most people are not obsessive Banksy fans.
I disagree. If you click through to her web site she's described as an up and comer in the art gallery scene, starting at age 18. So she has to have some idea of how this is done. I view her diatribe as a pr attempt (very Banksy, by the way) and poorly written to boot. Not bad looking though, bit more than a slapper. Do you think she is Fred's daughter?
Used to enjoy him on Meridien Tonight.
You either can't read or miss the point completely.
The article is about the attitude of Sothebys staff to a potential buyer.
It's not a criticism of Banky or Lazarides.
and believe it or not most people are not obsessive Banksy fans.
I disagree. If you click through to her web site she's described as an up and comer in the art gallery scene, starting at age 18. So she has to have some idea of how this is done. I view her diatribe as a pr attempt (very Banksy, by the way) and poorly written to boot. Not bad looking though, bit more than a slapper. Do you think she is Fred's daughter? Used to enjoy him on Meridien Tonight.
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