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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Morfx on Jun 2, 2014 18:57:17 GMT 1, Just thought id share this link, Pahnl's work is now being replicated..
well not replicated as its shockingly poor all round...
Judge for your selves....
web.stagram.com/p/733744630454057209_781801053
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Momo on Jun 2, 2014 20:49:39 GMT 1, That's ridiculous, hope Pahnl knows
That's ridiculous, hope Pahnl knows
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Morfx on Jun 2, 2014 20:55:22 GMT 1, Yeah he does, Seen it on his FB feed... shockingly bad....
Yeah he does, Seen it on his FB feed... shockingly bad....
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by tartarus on Jun 2, 2014 21:03:24 GMT 1, Its been going on for a while. Apparently the guy asked, got told no and did it anyway.
Hopefully it will only serve to get his actual work a bit more recognition.
Its been going on for a while. Apparently the guy asked, got told no and did it anyway.
Hopefully it will only serve to get his actual work a bit more recognition.
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Coach on Jun 2, 2014 21:03:40 GMT 1, Unmistakable.
Unmistakable.
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Pahnl on Jun 2, 2014 21:27:23 GMT 1, I've a whole folder full of plagiarized pieces, from eBay knock offs, a tee design and one piece was even used as a lead image for an austerity protest by students in Eastern Europe.
And tartarus, I had Instagram take that guy's ripoff images down, although they'll remain badly painted on the streets until they're hopefully buffed. He kept reuploading it all, so on the third time, Instagram completely removed his account. I feel bad for him but it was his own fault.
I've a whole folder full of plagiarized pieces, from eBay knock offs, a tee design and one piece was even used as a lead image for an austerity protest by students in Eastern Europe.
And tartarus, I had Instagram take that guy's ripoff images down, although they'll remain badly painted on the streets until they're hopefully buffed. He kept reuploading it all, so on the third time, Instagram completely removed his account. I feel bad for him but it was his own fault.
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by tartarus on Jun 2, 2014 22:33:50 GMT 1, I've a whole folder full of plagiarized pieces, from eBay knock offs, a tee design and one piece was even used as a lead image for an austerity protest by students in Eastern Europe. And tartarus, I had Instagram take that guy's ripoff images down, although they'll remain badly painted on the streets until they're hopefully buffed. He kept reuploading it all, so on the third time, Instagram completely removed his account. I feel bad for him but it was his own fault. Lol for sure it was! Id probably have done the same! Its beyond me what he wanted to achieve! like some sort of art stalker.
I've a whole folder full of plagiarized pieces, from eBay knock offs, a tee design and one piece was even used as a lead image for an austerity protest by students in Eastern Europe. And tartarus, I had Instagram take that guy's ripoff images down, although they'll remain badly painted on the streets until they're hopefully buffed. He kept reuploading it all, so on the third time, Instagram completely removed his account. I feel bad for him but it was his own fault. Lol for sure it was! Id probably have done the same! Its beyond me what he wanted to achieve! like some sort of art stalker.
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Cornish Crayon on Jun 2, 2014 22:37:07 GMT 1, How long have you been using these images pahnl dude ?
How long have you been using these images pahnl dude ?
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by auzzie on Jun 2, 2014 23:47:18 GMT 1, Terrible imitations. Don't they say your not famous till you've got a stalker. Pahnl your even more famous
Terrible imitations. Don't they say your not famous till you've got a stalker. Pahnl your even more famous
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 0:05:17 GMT 1, Imitation is the best form of flattery ... until it starts eating into your own pocket
Imitation is the best form of flattery ... until it starts eating into your own pocket
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Pahnl
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Pahnl on Jun 3, 2014 8:36:53 GMT 1, I've been stenciling since 2003 but I started painting the figures I'm now known for since 2007.
Dug out a few other examples...
In the case of those protest posters, I didn't mind so much (as it was a good cause) and I would've gladly drawn something for them but they never asked.
I've been stenciling since 2003 but I started painting the figures I'm now known for since 2007. Dug out a few other examples... In the case of those protest posters, I didn't mind so much (as it was a good cause) and I would've gladly drawn something for them but they never asked.
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Cornish Crayon on Jun 3, 2014 8:58:47 GMT 1, I've got a couple of pieces I purchased from eBay a good few years back I think they are dated, I'll dig them out, if I remember, certain they came from Portugal
No worries
I've got a couple of pieces I purchased from eBay a good few years back I think they are dated, I'll dig them out, if I remember, certain they came from Portugal
No worries
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Morfx on Jun 3, 2014 9:03:08 GMT 1, I've got a couple of pieces I purchased from eBay a good few years back I think they are dated, I'll dig them out, if I remember, certain they came from Portugal No worries Would love to see them....
I've got a couple of pieces I purchased from eBay a good few years back I think they are dated, I'll dig them out, if I remember, certain they came from Portugal No worries Would love to see them....
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Morfx on Jun 3, 2014 9:06:17 GMT 1, I noticed your site is Copyright'ed.... blah blah... is that the site or the dudes/dogs/cats etc..
I get wound up when a certain cap badge take the credit for jobs we done whilst on tour... Grrrrr
I noticed your site is Copyright'ed.... blah blah... is that the site or the dudes/dogs/cats etc..
I get wound up when a certain cap badge take the credit for jobs we done whilst on tour... Grrrrr
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Pahnl on Jun 3, 2014 9:34:13 GMT 1, Sorry to tell you, Cornish, but I'm almost certain those pieces are going to be counterfeit. I remember having to file a complaint with eBay about a Portuguese guy. Those pieces were better than most (thought still not great) and I think he used some jazzy background patterns, right?
The copyright applies to the site design and content, etc. The thing is, copyright isn't something you need to file for like a trademark. As soon as you produce something original, you're automatically granted copyright over it. And with most things being online, it's a lot easier to see who came up with what first. There's no requirement to show the © to keep the rights but it's standard practice on websites anyway.
Sorry to tell you, Cornish, but I'm almost certain those pieces are going to be counterfeit. I remember having to file a complaint with eBay about a Portuguese guy. Those pieces were better than most (thought still not great) and I think he used some jazzy background patterns, right?
The copyright applies to the site design and content, etc. The thing is, copyright isn't something you need to file for like a trademark. As soon as you produce something original, you're automatically granted copyright over it. And with most things being online, it's a lot easier to see who came up with what first. There's no requirement to show the © to keep the rights but it's standard practice on websites anyway.
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Cornish Crayon on Jun 3, 2014 10:16:58 GMT 1, I didn't even know you existed till at least a year after, I bought them cos they were different and £7.50 each if I remember,
I'll dig em out.
No worries
I didn't even know you existed till at least a year after, I bought them cos they were different and £7.50 each if I remember,
I'll dig em out.
No worries
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by kittysaz on Jun 3, 2014 10:24:30 GMT 1, The swine! Pahnl is so lovely How dare this low life do that Angry kitty Grrr
The swine! Pahnl is so lovely How dare this low life do that Angry kitty Grrr
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by nealmason1986 on Jun 3, 2014 10:27:19 GMT 1, I think its an utter disgrace to be honest. To pass someones elses work off as your own is just ridiculous. If you have any talent and want to be good at something then be creative and make your own work and have your own ideas and don't just steel someone else. It wont get you anywhere in life.
I hope you can get something done about this person ripping your work off. I for one know how hard you work Pahnl.
I think its an utter disgrace to be honest. To pass someones elses work off as your own is just ridiculous. If you have any talent and want to be good at something then be creative and make your own work and have your own ideas and don't just steel someone else. It wont get you anywhere in life.
I hope you can get something done about this person ripping your work off. I for one know how hard you work Pahnl.
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 11:57:08 GMT 1, She looks young.
Maybe she is a fan and just wanted to make some Pahnl art for herself.
I wouldn't be too hard on her, maybe contact her and encourage her o do more art in her own style.
I like Pahnl paintings a lot but the trouble with simplicity is that it can verge on generic and in my local store there are safety notices in different colours which made me think of Pahnl's art when I saw them.
She looks young.
Maybe she is a fan and just wanted to make some Pahnl art for herself.
I wouldn't be too hard on her, maybe contact her and encourage her o do more art in her own style.
I like Pahnl paintings a lot but the trouble with simplicity is that it can verge on generic and in my local store there are safety notices in different colours which made me think of Pahnl's art when I saw them.
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Pahnl on Jun 3, 2014 12:07:32 GMT 1, Aye, I think the story in the first case is a guy painted some things for his girlfriend. That's why I'm not getting too miffed. Like I said, they're not being sold or painted in the street. My characters take their aesthetic from signage graphics and there's always the chance of coincidence but those were definitely lifted from my work.
Aye, I think the story in the first case is a guy painted some things for his girlfriend. That's why I'm not getting too miffed. Like I said, they're not being sold or painted in the street. My characters take their aesthetic from signage graphics and there's always the chance of coincidence but those were definitely lifted from my work.
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Deleted on Jun 3, 2014 12:14:10 GMT 1, Your art is definately recognisable as your own style Pahnl.
If people blatantly rip off your originals and style and sell them on eBay etc you have every right to be annoyed.
I think fans who copy a painting because they love your art and want a painting for themselves but cant afford one is a good thing but people who copy and do it to make money is a bad thing.
boingboing.net/2011/02/25/artist-vs-ebay-bootl.html
Your art is definately recognisable as your own style Pahnl. If people blatantly rip off your originals and style and sell them on eBay etc you have every right to be annoyed. I think fans who copy a painting because they love your art and want a painting for themselves but cant afford one is a good thing but people who copy and do it to make money is a bad thing. boingboing.net/2011/02/25/artist-vs-ebay-bootl.html
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Pahnl on Jun 3, 2014 12:23:59 GMT 1, I agree with you there, Ploppi, and I've yet to see any copies that are even half as decent as my own work. Cutting such geometric shapes and straight lines, whilst spraying it cleanly, is much harder than most people expect.
And great link there, I love it when scammers are tricked into doing things like that. I think the best one I saw was a scammer getting a tattoo to convince someone of their legitimacy.
I agree with you there, Ploppi, and I've yet to see any copies that are even half as decent as my own work. Cutting such geometric shapes and straight lines, whilst spraying it cleanly, is much harder than most people expect.
And great link there, I love it when scammers are tricked into doing things like that. I think the best one I saw was a scammer getting a tattoo to convince someone of their legitimacy.
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PAHNL - Rip offs ***Grrrrr***, by Morfx on Jun 3, 2014 12:28:01 GMT 1, Your art is definately recognisable as your own style Pahnl. If people blatantly rip off your originals and style and sell them on eBay etc you have every right to be annoyed. I think fans who copy a painting because they love your art and want a painting for themselves but cant afford one is a good thing but people who copy and do it to make money is a bad thing. boingboing.net/2011/02/25/artist-vs-ebay-bootl.html The lengths some people go to...lol
Your art is definately recognisable as your own style Pahnl. If people blatantly rip off your originals and style and sell them on eBay etc you have every right to be annoyed. I think fans who copy a painting because they love your art and want a painting for themselves but cant afford one is a good thing but people who copy and do it to make money is a bad thing. boingboing.net/2011/02/25/artist-vs-ebay-bootl.html The lengths some people go to...lol
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