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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by met on Sept 27, 2014 0:44:18 GMT 1, Some nice artworks... although I fail to understand how a print sold out in Feb 2014 at 450 euros can get an estimate of 850 - 1200 euros ?? polarno, will you post results online ? And FR will be pissed of to see that TOX features in this street art auction You know, as much as me, that sometimes for sold out print sellers have high expectations and pieces usually do not come alone. You have to give and get depending on priorities...you do not always do what you want mouning an auction. I will surely post a link to the results since it is a public events results are available to anyone. Looking at a couple of the unsigned Banksy screenprints on consignment โ Lots 74 (I Fought the Law) and 80 (Virgin Mary / Toxic Mary) โ it's dishonest or at least very misleading for the auction house to describe these prints as "Signรฉe" / "Signed".
There should be a conscious attempt on your part to avoid encouraging bidder confusion between (i) a stencil-style tag that actually forms part of a Banksy image, as originally printed, and (ii) a hand signature by the artist.
www.tajan.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=9948++++++74+&refno=++465759&saletype= "Signรฉe dans le motif" / "Signed in the pattern"
www.tajan.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=9948++++++80+&refno=++465931&saletype= "Signรฉe dans la planche" / "Signed within the image"
Some nice artworks... although I fail to understand how a print sold out in Feb 2014 at 450 euros can get an estimate of 850 - 1200 euros ?? polarno, will you post results online ? And FR will be pissed of to see that TOX features in this street art auction You know, as much as me, that sometimes for sold out print sellers have high expectations and pieces usually do not come alone. You have to give and get depending on priorities...you do not always do what you want mouning an auction. I will surely post a link to the results since it is a public events results are available to anyone. Looking at a couple of the unsigned Banksy screenprints on consignment โ Lots 74 ( I Fought the Law) and 80 ( Virgin Mary / Toxic Mary) โ it's dishonest or at least very misleading for the auction house to describe these prints as "Signรฉe" / "Signed". There should be a conscious attempt on your part to avoid encouraging bidder confusion between (i) a stencil-style tag that actually forms part of a Banksy image, as originally printed, and (ii) a hand signature by the artist. www.tajan.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=9948++++++74+&refno=++465759&saletype="Signรฉe dans le motif" / "Signed in the pattern"www.tajan.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=9948++++++80+&refno=++465931&saletype="Signรฉe dans la planche" / "Signed within the image"
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by Deleted on Sept 27, 2014 1:14:26 GMT 1, You know, as much as me, that sometimes for sold out print sellers have high expectations and pieces usually do not come alone. You have to give and get depending on priorities...you do not always do what you want mouning an auction. I will surely post a link to the results since it is a public events results are available to anyone. Looking at a couple of the unsigned Banksy screenprints on consignment โ Lots 74 ( I Fought the Law) and 80 ( Virgin Mary / Toxic Mary) โ it's dishonest or at least very misleading for the auction house to describe these prints as "Signรฉe" / "Signed". There should be a conscious attempt on your part to avoid encouraging bidder confusion between (i) a stencil-style tag that actually forms part of a Banksy image, as originally printed, and (ii) a hand signature by the artist. www.tajan.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=9948++++++74+&refno=++465759&saletype="Signรฉe dans le motif" / "Signed in the pattern"www.tajan.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=9948++++++80+&refno=++465931&saletype="Signรฉe dans la planche" / "Signed within the image" I couldnt agree more met, contradictory and misleading at best, i know from first hand experience it gives false hope to some.
You know, as much as me, that sometimes for sold out print sellers have high expectations and pieces usually do not come alone. You have to give and get depending on priorities...you do not always do what you want mouning an auction. I will surely post a link to the results since it is a public events results are available to anyone. Looking at a couple of the unsigned Banksy screenprints on consignment โ Lots 74 ( I Fought the Law) and 80 ( Virgin Mary / Toxic Mary) โ it's dishonest or at least very misleading for the auction house to describe these prints as "Signรฉe" / "Signed". There should be a conscious attempt on your part to avoid encouraging bidder confusion between (i) a stencil-style tag that actually forms part of a Banksy image, as originally printed, and (ii) a hand signature by the artist. www.tajan.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=9948++++++74+&refno=++465759&saletype="Signรฉe dans le motif" / "Signed in the pattern"www.tajan.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=9948++++++80+&refno=++465931&saletype="Signรฉe dans la planche" / "Signed within the image"I couldnt agree more met, contradictory and misleading at best, i know from first hand experience it gives false hope to some.
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by graffuturism on Sept 27, 2014 2:45:51 GMT 1, If you read the other lots that actually have signatures it is stated as signed without the wording in the pattern or within the image. I think that differentiates the signed from the signed within the image or in the pattern. I can see the confusion but its clearly labeled to show a difference than the signed pieces. The image is also given showing what and how exactly the image is signed. I dont see a clear misrepresentation or how you could get confused unless you were not paying attention or looking at the image in the lot.
If you read the other lots that actually have signatures it is stated as signed without the wording in the pattern or within the image. I think that differentiates the signed from the signed within the image or in the pattern. I can see the confusion but its clearly labeled to show a difference than the signed pieces. The image is also given showing what and how exactly the image is signed. I dont see a clear misrepresentation or how you could get confused unless you were not paying attention or looking at the image in the lot.
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lucky7
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by lucky7 on Sept 28, 2014 19:22:19 GMT 1, I agree the whole signature thing is misleading, or at the very very least, sloppy.
On another note, I don't know half the names in the catalogue, is that because I don't know anything about art?
Still, I wish I could be there.
I agree the whole signature thing is misleading, or at the very very least, sloppy.
On another note, I don't know half the names in the catalogue, is that because I don't know anything about art?
Still, I wish I could be there.
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 19:29:39 GMT 1, I got the catalogue through and had a quick flip at the pics there was a nice faith 47 blk/white of horses, havent looked properly at prices etc yet.
I got the catalogue through and had a quick flip at the pics there was a nice faith 47 blk/white of horses, havent looked properly at prices etc yet.
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by trax51 on Sept 29, 2014 9:53:42 GMT 1, I got the catalogue through and had a quick flip at the pics there was a nice faith 47 blk/white of horses, havent looked properly at prices etc yet.
Yep, very Nice piece from Faith (its mine to be transparent FYI its the original drawing that was used for the SAN print release a couple of years ago. Happy to share more info if needed!
I got the catalogue through and had a quick flip at the pics there was a nice faith 47 blk/white of horses, havent looked properly at prices etc yet. Yep, very Nice piece from Faith (its mine to be transparent FYI its the original drawing that was used for the SAN print release a couple of years ago. Happy to share more info if needed!
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 18:38:30 GMT 1, You know, as much as me, that sometimes for sold out print sellers have high expectations and pieces usually do not come alone. You have to give and get depending on priorities...you do not always do what you want mouning an auction. I will surely post a link to the results since it is a public events results are available to anyone. Looking at a couple of the unsigned Banksy screenprints on consignment โ Lots 74 ( I Fought the Law) and 80 ( Virgin Mary / Toxic Mary) โ it's dishonest or at least very misleading for the auction house to describe these prints as "Signรฉe" / "Signed". There should be a conscious attempt on your part to avoid encouraging bidder confusion between (i) a stencil-style tag that actually forms part of a Banksy image, as originally printed, and (ii) a hand signature by the artist. www.tajan.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=9948++++++74+&refno=++465759&saletype="Signรฉe dans le motif" / "Signed in the pattern"www.tajan.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=9948++++++80+&refno=++465931&saletype="Signรฉe dans la planche" / "Signed within the image"Might be lost in translation.
I thought "signรฉe dans la planche" meant signed in the plate which is the artist making the signature in the plate or screen etc to be reproduced in the print.
"Signรฉe dans le motif" / "Signed in the pattern" means signed in the pattern by the artist, as in an original signature in the actual image as opposed to in a border.
You know, as much as me, that sometimes for sold out print sellers have high expectations and pieces usually do not come alone. You have to give and get depending on priorities...you do not always do what you want mouning an auction. I will surely post a link to the results since it is a public events results are available to anyone. Looking at a couple of the unsigned Banksy screenprints on consignment โ Lots 74 ( I Fought the Law) and 80 ( Virgin Mary / Toxic Mary) โ it's dishonest or at least very misleading for the auction house to describe these prints as "Signรฉe" / "Signed". There should be a conscious attempt on your part to avoid encouraging bidder confusion between (i) a stencil-style tag that actually forms part of a Banksy image, as originally printed, and (ii) a hand signature by the artist. www.tajan.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=9948++++++74+&refno=++465759&saletype="Signรฉe dans le motif" / "Signed in the pattern"www.tajan.com/en/asp/fullCatalogue.asp?salelot=9948++++++80+&refno=++465931&saletype="Signรฉe dans la planche" / "Signed within the image"Might be lost in translation.
I thought "signรฉe dans la planche" meant signed in the plate which is the artist making the signature in the plate or screen etc to be reproduced in the print.
"Signรฉe dans le motif" / "Signed in the pattern" means signed in the pattern by the artist, as in an original signature in the actual image as opposed to in a border.
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by rosh on Oct 1, 2014 15:08:42 GMT 1, Just received the catalog .. and happy to see that Paris can organise big sales like this !
Sad to can not participate at the auction, but like we say in France "un bien pour un mal" i'm going to London for Ludo show !
Just received the catalog .. and happy to see that Paris can organise big sales like this !
Sad to can not participate at the auction, but like we say in France "un bien pour un mal" i'm going to London for Ludo show !
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 16:59:51 GMT 1, I'm sure it will be a big success.
Down here the big art supplies store sells books too and there are rows of books on graffiti, street art, and they even sell kits on how to make stencils on walls with discounted tins of spray paint.
I'm sure it will be a big success.
Down here the big art supplies store sells books too and there are rows of books on graffiti, street art, and they even sell kits on how to make stencils on walls with discounted tins of spray paint.
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by Simococo on Oct 7, 2014 14:31:37 GMT 1, Anyone going to this on Thursday?
Anyone going to this on Thursday?
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 20:05:44 GMT 1, Anyone know if there will be a link where we could watch this live? Looking forward to this one!
Anyone know if there will be a link where we could watch this live? Looking forward to this one!
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by Deleted on Oct 9, 2014 15:34:35 GMT 1, Thanks for the pics.
That Os Gemeos appears to be a strange proportion now that I see it framed up.
Kinda glad that 99 prints wouldn't accept my telephone number now
Thanks for the pics. That Os Gemeos appears to be a strange proportion now that I see it framed up. Kinda glad that 99 prints wouldn't accept my telephone number now
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by Shoot Again on Oct 9, 2014 15:56:40 GMT 1, Proper Auction starting at 19h french time, ie. 6pm UKT
Proper Auction starting at 19h french time, ie. 6pm UKT
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by kapusta on Oct 9, 2014 15:56:55 GMT 1, Some really nice pieces and big ticket items in that auction
Some really nice pieces and big ticket items in that auction
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by johnnyh on Oct 9, 2014 18:43:52 GMT 1, This is a big auction hope they have enough buyers linked into it...that's a lot of pieces and some lovely ones as well.
great pics shootagain
This is a big auction hope they have enough buyers linked into it...that's a lot of pieces and some lovely ones as well.
great pics shootagain
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by Harveyn on Oct 9, 2014 19:23:08 GMT 1, Some extremely strong results in this auction. Crazy prices on some of the Sheps.
Some extremely strong results in this auction. Crazy prices on some of the Sheps.
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by djvlnt on Oct 9, 2014 19:57:28 GMT 1, Where do I find the results?
Where do I find the results?
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by Poster Bob on Oct 9, 2014 20:47:28 GMT 1, I am quite surprised that the yellow CYW failed to sell and that the Toxic Mary sold for โฌ4400.
I am quite surprised that the yellow CYW failed to sell and that the Toxic Mary sold for โฌ4400.
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by Unica on Oct 9, 2014 21:42:40 GMT 1, How much did the Banksy Fragile piece go for? Does anyone know if it had pest control COA?
How much did the Banksy Fragile piece go for? Does anyone know if it had pest control COA?
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by warsaw project on Oct 9, 2014 21:44:20 GMT 1, How much did the Banksy Fragile piece go for? Does anyone know if it had pest control COA? 90k euro without premium it had COA
How much did the Banksy Fragile piece go for? Does anyone know if it had pest control COA? 90k euro without premium it had COA
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by warsaw project on Oct 9, 2014 21:46:53 GMT 1, Im still kinda fuming the more i get drunk about missing the sainer, was out bid in the room, was it you shootagain ?
Im still kinda fuming the more i get drunk about missing the sainer, was out bid in the room, was it you shootagain ?
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by Shoot Again on Oct 9, 2014 22:15:12 GMT 1, Im still kinda fuming the more i get drunk about missing the sainer, was out bid in the room, was it you shootagain ?
Nope, wasn't me ;-) I wasn't even in the room ;-(
Im still kinda fuming the more i get drunk about missing the sainer, was out bid in the room, was it you shootagain ? Nope, wasn't me ;-) I wasn't even in the room ;-(
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by djvlnt on Oct 9, 2014 22:18:12 GMT 1, I might be able to help anyone find a Etam Cru canvas if you are bummed that you missed the Sainer..
I might be able to help anyone find a Etam Cru canvas if you are bummed that you missed the Sainer..
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Tajan Auctions ๐ซ๐ท Paris, by warsaw project on Oct 9, 2014 22:19:32 GMT 1, Ahhh thought you may have attended seeing the pix! Thanks for those ! Was surprised with the banksy lots, thought that yellow cyw would see out the high estimate easy the way things have been going!
Ahhh thought you may have attended seeing the pix! Thanks for those ! Was surprised with the banksy lots, thought that yellow cyw would see out the high estimate easy the way things have been going!
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