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David Choe , by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 20:28:01 GMT 1, Yeah, I know, I had to say that which part? the rape part, or the racist part?
Yeah, I know, I had to say that which part? the rape part, or the racist part?
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David Choe , by tweety on Jun 12, 2014 20:34:47 GMT 1, I was just angry at some similar article I was reading about his perversity. Reminded me how they were dealing with Terry Richardson (similar allegations). I am taking all back. I wasn't there and it is too much.
I was just angry at some similar article I was reading about his perversity. Reminded me how they were dealing with Terry Richardson (similar allegations). I am taking all back. I wasn't there and it is too much.
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David Choe , by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 20:36:43 GMT 1, I don't have much of an opinion on Choe's situation, but I don't think I could ever enjoy anything if I knew the artist raped or assaulted woman/animals/children. I can't watch anything with Sean Penn knowing that he tied up and beat Madonna. I guess people can change but it's hard to forget the past
I don't have much of an opinion on Choe's situation, but I don't think I could ever enjoy anything if I knew the artist raped or assaulted woman/animals/children. I can't watch anything with Sean Penn knowing that he tied up and beat Madonna. I guess people can change but it's hard to forget the past
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David Choe , by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 20:52:04 GMT 1, Dave Choe is a big artist to me. Doesn't matter for me if he rapes somebody. He is brilliant, his art will have value even after his death. I really wish to have some of his paintings, it's my dream right now. And about his perversity, I was reading some article about how pervert he is. Let's be honest, most of us (guys) have thoughts like this and he just fulfil them, he doesn't hurt anybody, he doesn't care. I don't want to be racist but I think the masseuse was probably Asian and they are used to a lot of s**t. Thai massage with happy ending... The first line in this post is Absolutely disgusting.
that is not on at all.
Dave Choe is a big artist to me. Doesn't matter for me if he rapes somebody. He is brilliant, his art will have value even after his death. I really wish to have some of his paintings, it's my dream right now. And about his perversity, I was reading some article about how pervert he is. Let's be honest, most of us (guys) have thoughts like this and he just fulfil them, he doesn't hurt anybody, he doesn't care. I don't want to be racist but I think the masseuse was probably Asian and they are used to a lot of s**t. Thai massage with happy ending... The first line in this post is Absolutely disgusting. that is not on at all.
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David Choe , by yoyosh on Jun 12, 2014 20:55:36 GMT 1, Hasta luego senor tweety. We hardly knew ya
Hasta luego senor tweety. We hardly knew ya
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David Choe , by Cardiff on Jun 12, 2014 21:19:38 GMT 1, .
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David Choe , by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 21:33:31 GMT 1, I don't have much of an opinion on Choe's situation, but I don't think I could ever enjoy anything if I knew the artist raped or assaulted woman/animals/children. I can't watch anything with Sean Penn knowing that he tied up and beat Madonna. I guess people can change but it's hard to forget the past
I can't watch Penn knowing after seeing him stick his nosey beak in our affairs by backing Argentina's President Fernandez De Kircher's claims that the Falklands shouldn't be british anymore. I bet he really doesn't know any of the history of the islands involved here at all and it's not just as simple as saying 'well they're nearer Argentina so they should be theirs!'
Ok, that was slightly off topic so back to David Choe.......
I don't have much of an opinion on Choe's situation, but I don't think I could ever enjoy anything if I knew the artist raped or assaulted woman/animals/children. I can't watch anything with Sean Penn knowing that he tied up and beat Madonna. I guess people can change but it's hard to forget the past I can't watch Penn knowing after seeing him stick his nosey beak in our affairs by backing Argentina's President Fernandez De Kircher's claims that the Falklands shouldn't be british anymore. I bet he really doesn't know any of the history of the islands involved here at all and it's not just as simple as saying 'well they're nearer Argentina so they should be theirs!' Ok, that was slightly off topic so back to David Choe.......
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David Choe , by Deleted on Jun 12, 2014 21:41:52 GMT 1, Just to clarify and in danger of bursting David's public and media persona, he is a soulful, shy, thoughtful, sensitive, spiritual, quiet and unassuming guy. He doesn't smoke or drink and has only ever taken drugs on the occasions he was looking to expand his understanding of the universe, both inner and outer. He is, without a doubt, one of the most interesting and talented painters living. An artist in the true "romantic" meaning of the word. He simply isn't capable of rape, everyone knows this, which is why the story didn't gain any traction.
Just to clarify and in danger of bursting David's public and media persona, he is a soulful, shy, thoughtful, sensitive, spiritual, quiet and unassuming guy. He doesn't smoke or drink and has only ever taken drugs on the occasions he was looking to expand his understanding of the universe, both inner and outer. He is, without a doubt, one of the most interesting and talented painters living. An artist in the true "romantic" meaning of the word. He simply isn't capable of rape, everyone knows this, which is why the story didn't gain any traction.
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David Choe , by stvro22 on Jun 12, 2014 21:49:28 GMT 1, Just to clarify and in danger of bursting David's public and media persona, he is a soulful, shy, thoughtful, sensitive, spiritual, quiet and unassuming guy. He doesn't smoke or drink and has only ever taken drugs on the occasions he was looking to expand his understanding of the universe, both inner and outer. He is, without a doubt, one of the most interesting and talented painters living. An artist in the true "romantic" meaning of the word. He simply isn't capable of rape, everyone knows this, which is why the story didn't gain any traction.
Obviously you know him but my question is, If the story was made up as Choe says are you okay with that premise being used for entertainment?
Just to clarify and in danger of bursting David's public and media persona, he is a soulful, shy, thoughtful, sensitive, spiritual, quiet and unassuming guy. He doesn't smoke or drink and has only ever taken drugs on the occasions he was looking to expand his understanding of the universe, both inner and outer. He is, without a doubt, one of the most interesting and talented painters living. An artist in the true "romantic" meaning of the word. He simply isn't capable of rape, everyone knows this, which is why the story didn't gain any traction. Obviously you know him but my question is, If the story was made up as Choe says are you okay with that premise being used for entertainment?
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David Choe , by Deleted on Jun 13, 2014 0:25:43 GMT 1, Im a fan of choes art, very talented no doubt, reading that hes obviously got his issues.
Im a fan of choes art, very talented no doubt, reading that hes obviously got his issues.
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David Choe , by mouser on Jun 13, 2014 0:41:18 GMT 1, I love some of the guys art, some is not too great... but very varied, lots of different styles. This seems to be reflected in his personality... lots of different ones trapped in there, the guy appears to be a very tallented chap with some significant issues / problems. Followed his work for years, have a few lovely pieces by him, but that doesnt necessarily make him a decent human being, have a feeling he's pretty troubled, and can readily agree with how he expresses that frustration from time to time.
I love some of the guys art, some is not too great... but very varied, lots of different styles. This seems to be reflected in his personality... lots of different ones trapped in there, the guy appears to be a very tallented chap with some significant issues / problems. Followed his work for years, have a few lovely pieces by him, but that doesnt necessarily make him a decent human being, have a feeling he's pretty troubled, and can readily agree with how he expresses that frustration from time to time.
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David Choe , by anodyne13 on Jun 13, 2014 5:27:22 GMT 1, I am not quite sure how it relates to his story, or his retraction of it later, but in thinking about Choe, I have always thought that in the Freudian sense, he embodied a person that was all id and almost no super-ego or ego. Which is part of what makes his persona and art so compelling and raw, but also lends itself to questionable personal ethics.
I am not quite sure how it relates to his story, or his retraction of it later, but in thinking about Choe, I have always thought that in the Freudian sense, he embodied a person that was all id and almost no super-ego or ego. Which is part of what makes his persona and art so compelling and raw, but also lends itself to questionable personal ethics.
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David Choe , by kittysaz on Jun 13, 2014 10:28:54 GMT 1, I don't know who you are tweety but you seem like someone I'd be very concerned about in my line of work, with attitudes like that. Shocking. Simply shocking.
I don't know who you are tweety but you seem like someone I'd be very concerned about in my line of work, with attitudes like that. Shocking. Simply shocking.
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David Choe , by stvro22 on Jun 13, 2014 11:06:43 GMT 1,
Not sure what that proves?
I was hoping you answered the question I asked you twice but I see that's not going to happen.
What the hay I'll try again..... Assuming the story Choe told was "made up" as he said, are you okay with the premise he laid out being used for the purpose of entertainment?
Not sure what that proves? I was hoping you answered the question I asked you twice but I see that's not going to happen. What the hay I'll try again..... Assuming the story Choe told was "made up" as he said, are you okay with the premise he laid out being used for the purpose of entertainment?
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David Choe , by Monky on Jun 13, 2014 11:33:30 GMT 1, Dave Choe is a big artist to me. Doesn't matter for me if he rapes somebody. He is brilliant, his art will have value even after his death. I really wish to have some of his paintings, it's my dream right now. And about his perversity, I was reading some article about how pervert he is. Let's be honest, most of us (guys) have thoughts like this and he just fulfil them, he doesn't hurt anybody, he doesn't care. I don't want to be racist but I think the masseuse was probably Asian and they are used to a lot of s**t. Thai massage with happy ending... You sound like a right misogynist cnut!
Dave Choe is a big artist to me. Doesn't matter for me if he rapes somebody. He is brilliant, his art will have value even after his death. I really wish to have some of his paintings, it's my dream right now. And about his perversity, I was reading some article about how pervert he is. Let's be honest, most of us (guys) have thoughts like this and he just fulfil them, he doesn't hurt anybody, he doesn't care. I don't want to be racist but I think the masseuse was probably Asian and they are used to a lot of s**t. Thai massage with happy ending... You sound like a right misogynist cnut!
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David Choe , by TaffSpur on Jun 13, 2014 11:40:46 GMT 1, Dave Choe is a big artist to me. Doesn't matter for me if he rapes somebody. He is brilliant, his art will have value even after his death. I really wish to have some of his paintings, it's my dream right now. And about his perversity, I was reading some article about how pervert he is. Let's be honest, most of us (guys) have thoughts like this and he just fulfil them, he doesn't hurt anybody, he doesn't care. I don't want to be racist but I think the masseuse was probably Asian and they are used to a lot of s**t. Thai massage with happy ending...
Wow, just when you think you've heard it all! Unbelievable!
Shocking.
Dave Choe is a big artist to me. Doesn't matter for me if he rapes somebody. He is brilliant, his art will have value even after his death. I really wish to have some of his paintings, it's my dream right now. And about his perversity, I was reading some article about how pervert he is. Let's be honest, most of us (guys) have thoughts like this and he just fulfil them, he doesn't hurt anybody, he doesn't care. I don't want to be racist but I think the masseuse was probably Asian and they are used to a lot of s**t. Thai massage with happy ending... Wow, just when you think you've heard it all! Unbelievable! Shocking.
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David Choe , by Monky on Jun 13, 2014 11:51:53 GMT 1, I don't think anyone can ever say if someone is or is not capable of rape, violence or abuse.
From my experience of working with victims of domestic and sexual abuse, as well as the abusers, many of them build up a character which one would doubt that they could ever do such an atrocity. An abuser, does not always come across as an abuser. I am not saying that David Choe is or is not capable of such a thing. The only person who truly knows that is him. However, to joke about rape and abuse is outrageous and far from funny. People will listen to that show and not realise it is all such a joke and it will normalise these activities to them and they will think it is OK to commit such crimes. This obviously would not happen with everyone, it would only be a small proportion of society which would not see this as a "joke" or wrong, and that is what concerns me the most about his show and his behaviour.
I don't think anyone can ever say if someone is or is not capable of rape, violence or abuse.
From my experience of working with victims of domestic and sexual abuse, as well as the abusers, many of them build up a character which one would doubt that they could ever do such an atrocity. An abuser, does not always come across as an abuser. I am not saying that David Choe is or is not capable of such a thing. The only person who truly knows that is him. However, to joke about rape and abuse is outrageous and far from funny. People will listen to that show and not realise it is all such a joke and it will normalise these activities to them and they will think it is OK to commit such crimes. This obviously would not happen with everyone, it would only be a small proportion of society which would not see this as a "joke" or wrong, and that is what concerns me the most about his show and his behaviour.
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David Choe , by mojo on Jun 13, 2014 12:21:20 GMT 1, Dave Choe is a big artist to me. Doesn't matter for me if he rapes somebody. He is brilliant, his art will have value even after his death. I really wish to have some of his paintings, it's my dream right now. And about his perversity, I was reading some article about how pervert he is. Let's be honest, most of us (guys) have thoughts like this and he just fulfil them, he doesn't hurt anybody, he doesn't care. I don't want to be racist but I think the masseuse was probably Asian and they are used to a lot of s**t. Thai massage with happy ending... Although I believe David Choe should be judged only by the relevant authorities that know the full story and all the details your post has made me feel physically sick. I would like to remind you that rape, is in actual fact, a despicable crime and carries very serious consequences, there is NO grey area here, sex without consent is rape, even with a prostitute. And although you 'don't want to be racist' implying that the masseuse was 'probably' asian and therefore used to being raped is pig ignorant beyond belief. If you were aiming for the prestige of the most offensive post ever on this forum congratulations you just won - you must be very proud of yourself. Seriously if you really believe that it is OK to rape women to fulfill what you explain as 'normal' thoughts you very urgently need to see a therapist.
Dave Choe is a big artist to me. Doesn't matter for me if he rapes somebody. He is brilliant, his art will have value even after his death. I really wish to have some of his paintings, it's my dream right now. And about his perversity, I was reading some article about how pervert he is. Let's be honest, most of us (guys) have thoughts like this and he just fulfil them, he doesn't hurt anybody, he doesn't care. I don't want to be racist but I think the masseuse was probably Asian and they are used to a lot of s**t. Thai massage with happy ending... Although I believe David Choe should be judged only by the relevant authorities that know the full story and all the details your post has made me feel physically sick. I would like to remind you that rape, is in actual fact, a despicable crime and carries very serious consequences, there is NO grey area here, sex without consent is rape, even with a prostitute. And although you 'don't want to be racist' implying that the masseuse was 'probably' asian and therefore used to being raped is pig ignorant beyond belief. If you were aiming for the prestige of the most offensive post ever on this forum congratulations you just won - you must be very proud of yourself. Seriously if you really believe that it is OK to rape women to fulfill what you explain as 'normal' thoughts you very urgently need to see a therapist.
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David Choe , by Harveyn on Jun 13, 2014 12:27:17 GMT 1, Dave Choe is a big artist to me. Doesn't matter for me if he rapes somebody. He is brilliant, his art will have value even after his death. I really wish to have some of his paintings, it's my dream right now. And about his perversity, I was reading some article about how pervert he is. Let's be honest, most of us (guys) have thoughts like this and he just fulfil them, he doesn't hurt anybody, he doesn't care. I don't want to be racist but I think the masseuse was probably Asian and they are used to a lot of s**t. Thai massage with happy ending... Although I believe David Choe should be judged only by the relevant authorities that know the full story and all the details your post has made feel physically sick. I would like to remind you that rape, is in actual fact, a despicable crime and carries very serious consequences, there is NO grey area here, sex without consent is rape, even with a prostitute. And although you 'don't want to be racist' implying that the masseuse was 'probably' asian and therefore used to being raped is pig ignorant beyond belief. If you were aiming for the prestige of the most offensive post ever on this forum congratulations you just won - you must be very proud of yourself. Seriously if you really believe that it is OK to rape women to fulfill what you explain as 'normal' thoughts you very urgently need to see a therapist.
Tweety I am appalled at your post, every aspect of it. If I had the power to ban you I would and be assured I will be making that recommendation. This is the first time in all my years on this forum that I have been driven to make this request.
Dave Choe is a big artist to me. Doesn't matter for me if he rapes somebody. He is brilliant, his art will have value even after his death. I really wish to have some of his paintings, it's my dream right now. And about his perversity, I was reading some article about how pervert he is. Let's be honest, most of us (guys) have thoughts like this and he just fulfil them, he doesn't hurt anybody, he doesn't care. I don't want to be racist but I think the masseuse was probably Asian and they are used to a lot of s**t. Thai massage with happy ending... Although I believe David Choe should be judged only by the relevant authorities that know the full story and all the details your post has made feel physically sick. I would like to remind you that rape, is in actual fact, a despicable crime and carries very serious consequences, there is NO grey area here, sex without consent is rape, even with a prostitute. And although you 'don't want to be racist' implying that the masseuse was 'probably' asian and therefore used to being raped is pig ignorant beyond belief. If you were aiming for the prestige of the most offensive post ever on this forum congratulations you just won - you must be very proud of yourself. Seriously if you really believe that it is OK to rape women to fulfill what you explain as 'normal' thoughts you very urgently need to see a therapist.
Tweety I am appalled at your post, every aspect of it. If I had the power to ban you I would and be assured I will be making that recommendation. This is the first time in all my years on this forum that I have been driven to make this request.
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David Choe , by kittysaz on Jun 13, 2014 12:50:16 GMT 1, Third request.
Third request.
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David Choe , by Ottomatik on Jun 13, 2014 13:41:18 GMT 1,
My favorite part of the above quoted link is where he calls Depeche Mode 'gay.'
”I’ll end this letter, with a song by a gay group called depeche mode, that I heard for the first time today."
My favorite part of the above quoted link is where he calls Depeche Mode 'gay.' ”I’ll end this letter, with a song by a gay group called depeche mode, that I heard for the first time today."
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David Choe , by wh282 on Jun 13, 2014 13:44:01 GMT 1, My favorite part of the above quoted link is where he calls Depeche Mode 'gay.' ”I’ll end this letter, with a song by a gay group called depeche mode, that I heard for the first time today."
Yeah Otto, that's right up there with the "retard cashier".
My favorite part of the above quoted link is where he calls Depeche Mode 'gay.' ”I’ll end this letter, with a song by a gay group called depeche mode, that I heard for the first time today." Yeah Otto, that's right up there with the "retard cashier".
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David Choe , by Deleted on Jun 13, 2014 13:49:07 GMT 1, he is a rascal isnt he.A proper free spirit. Its amazing what you can get away with when you wear an artists hat.
and people on here attempt to defend him ?
FFS. this isnt what this scene was about when I got into it
he is a rascal isnt he.A proper free spirit. Its amazing what you can get away with when you wear an artists hat.
and people on here attempt to defend him ?
FFS. this isnt what this scene was about when I got into it
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David Choe , by Deleted on Jun 13, 2014 14:00:17 GMT 1, The bit I enjoy the most is watching moral barometers shift when it's a cool mate.... Almost as much as when it's some god awful third rate stencil art from a certain region.
The bit I enjoy the most is watching moral barometers shift when it's a cool mate.... Almost as much as when it's some god awful third rate stencil art from a certain region.
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David Choe , by Deleted on Jun 13, 2014 14:04:38 GMT 1, A crunt is a crunt in my book.
Crunts tend not to change their crunty spots.
They have PR companies for that.
A crunt is a crunt in my book.
Crunts tend not to change their crunty spots.
They have PR companies for that.
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David Choe , by Daniel Silk on Jun 13, 2014 14:08:39 GMT 1, Its well known that I dont like his work and everything I have seen about him as a person paints a picture of somebody who has got a bit carried away with his own fame.
Its well known that I dont like his work and everything I have seen about him as a person paints a picture of somebody who has got a bit carried away with his own fame.
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David Choe , by sixftjellybaby on Jun 13, 2014 15:04:18 GMT 1, Although I believe David Choe should be judged only by the relevant authorities that know the full story and all the details your post has made feel physically sick. I would like to remind you that rape, is in actual fact, a despicable crime and carries very serious consequences, there is NO grey area here, sex without consent is rape, even with a prostitute. And although you 'don't want to be racist' implying that the masseuse was 'probably' asian and therefore used to being raped is pig ignorant beyond belief. If you were aiming for the prestige of the most offensive post ever on this forum congratulations you just won - you must be very proud of yourself. Seriously if you really believe that it is OK to rape women to fulfill what you explain as 'normal' thoughts you very urgently need to see a therapist.
Tweety I am appalled at your post, every aspect of it. If I had the power to ban you I would and be assured I will be making that recommendation. This is the first time in all my years on this forum that I have been driven to make this request.
Totaly agree with harveyn,i have never read a post so sickening on here .......would like to have a big rant but im lost for words
Although I believe David Choe should be judged only by the relevant authorities that know the full story and all the details your post has made feel physically sick. I would like to remind you that rape, is in actual fact, a despicable crime and carries very serious consequences, there is NO grey area here, sex without consent is rape, even with a prostitute. And although you 'don't want to be racist' implying that the masseuse was 'probably' asian and therefore used to being raped is pig ignorant beyond belief. If you were aiming for the prestige of the most offensive post ever on this forum congratulations you just won - you must be very proud of yourself. Seriously if you really believe that it is OK to rape women to fulfill what you explain as 'normal' thoughts you very urgently need to see a therapist.
Tweety I am appalled at your post, every aspect of it. If I had the power to ban you I would and be assured I will be making that recommendation. This is the first time in all my years on this forum that I have been driven to make this request.
Totaly agree with harveyn,i have never read a post so sickening on here .......would like to have a big rant but im lost for words
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