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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by .dappy on Dec 6, 2014 0:55:53 GMT 1,
... if I remember his artwork is up in penguins offices around the world ... 
... if I remember his artwork is up in penguins offices around the world ... |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Dungle on Dec 6, 2014 0:57:53 GMT 1, ... if I remember his artwork is up in penguins offices around the world ...
It is indeed, but I was thinking hypothetically.
... if I remember his artwork is up in penguins offices around the world ... It is indeed, but I was thinking hypothetically. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 1:10:06 GMT 1, Such vomit. Artists should be exempt from this constricting whiteman bulls**t. Whiteman. Really?
' O Captain! My Captain! Our fearful trip is done ...'
Such vomit. Artists should be exempt from this constricting whiteman bulls**t. Whiteman. Really? Of course, such wondrous linguistic reminiscences ' O Captain! My Captain! Our fearful trip is done ...' |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by natstan on Dec 6, 2014 1:23:50 GMT 1, Nuart, you raise some really good points. I never thought of the tagging as a criticism on the high art ballet depiction but thats a great viewpoint. While I agree that corporations have the means to enforce copyrights, and are often the one to do so, I think that the brunt of protections still are there for artists. A good example is the recent suit against American Eagle by street artist AholSniffsGlue. They used his art without his permission in an ad campaign and he was able to force them to stop by enforcing his copyrights.
I did a 'test' today. I chanced upon MW's latest IG photo today. This particular canvas with a biker on a high wheel bike stood out. I googled 'man on bike with big wheel front' and look how easily what I found? Any idea what this critique is about then?
m.ebay.com/itm/110708033343
People are gonna say I'm a hater again. But really, I am more than a little pissed how this can happen time and again with his works. I'm so glad I don't own any MW stuff.
Next year, to call myself an artist with an individual style, I'm gonna lift an image I want from the net, photoshop it and tear up comics to cover a portion of the image. Job done. Any takers??
Nuart, you raise some really good points. I never thought of the tagging as a criticism on the high art ballet depiction but thats a great viewpoint. While I agree that corporations have the means to enforce copyrights, and are often the one to do so, I think that the brunt of protections still are there for artists. A good example is the recent suit against American Eagle by street artist AholSniffsGlue. They used his art without his permission in an ad campaign and he was able to force them to stop by enforcing his copyrights. I did a 'test' today. I chanced upon MW's latest IG photo today. This particular canvas with a biker on a high wheel bike stood out. I googled 'man on bike with big wheel front' and look how easily what I found? Any idea what this critique is about then? m.ebay.com/itm/110708033343People are gonna say I'm a hater again. But really, I am more than a little pissed how this can happen time and again with his works. I'm so glad I don't own any MW stuff. Next year, to call myself an artist with an individual style, I'm gonna lift an image I want from the net, photoshop it and tear up comics to cover a portion of the image. Job done. Any takers?? |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Howard Johnson on Dec 6, 2014 2:14:25 GMT 1, Nuart, you raise some really good points. I never thought of the tagging as a criticism on the high art ballet depiction but thats a great viewpoint. While I agree that corporations have the means to enforce copyrights, and are often the one to do so, I think that the brunt of protections still are there for artists. A good example is the recent suit against American Eagle by street artist AholSniffsGlue. They used his art without his permission in an ad campaign and he was able to force them to stop by enforcing his copyrights. So could Penguin books sue Harland Miller?
Its possible, this sort of thing would infringe trademark rights as well as copyrights. However, the freedom of speech exceptions would likely cover him. Theres also a legal defense called "latches" which means that they cant sue if they were aware of it and didn't do anything to try and prevent it at the time.
Urban artists have pushed the boundaries of what can legally be appropriated, and the two major lawsuits that would have settled what level of appropriation is legally allowed (Shepard Fairey & Mr. Brainwash) both settled, so their really isn't any clear rules other than the Prince decision (which is a clusterfu**k of a rule). Courts tend to be realists when it comes to laying down these rules, and the sheer amount of appropriation that takes place, and is passively allowed, in the urban art scene suggests that they would likely expand the fair use exception beyond where its currently at.
In regards to that bicycle photo, copyright only lasts for a certain amount of time (usually the life of the author plus 70 years) so that photo is probably in the public domain by now. However, another thing to consider is whats called a "right of publicity" which belongs to the person depicted in art and photographs. This right survives death and could be invoked by the estate of that old dude on the bicycle or the ballerina in the MW print.
Nuart, you raise some really good points. I never thought of the tagging as a criticism on the high art ballet depiction but thats a great viewpoint. While I agree that corporations have the means to enforce copyrights, and are often the one to do so, I think that the brunt of protections still are there for artists. A good example is the recent suit against American Eagle by street artist AholSniffsGlue. They used his art without his permission in an ad campaign and he was able to force them to stop by enforcing his copyrights. So could Penguin books sue Harland Miller? Its possible, this sort of thing would infringe trademark rights as well as copyrights. However, the freedom of speech exceptions would likely cover him. Theres also a legal defense called "latches" which means that they cant sue if they were aware of it and didn't do anything to try and prevent it at the time. Urban artists have pushed the boundaries of what can legally be appropriated, and the two major lawsuits that would have settled what level of appropriation is legally allowed (Shepard Fairey & Mr. Brainwash) both settled, so their really isn't any clear rules other than the Prince decision (which is a clusterfu**k of a rule). Courts tend to be realists when it comes to laying down these rules, and the sheer amount of appropriation that takes place, and is passively allowed, in the urban art scene suggests that they would likely expand the fair use exception beyond where its currently at. In regards to that bicycle photo, copyright only lasts for a certain amount of time (usually the life of the author plus 70 years) so that photo is probably in the public domain by now. However, another thing to consider is whats called a "right of publicity" which belongs to the person depicted in art and photographs. This right survives death and could be invoked by the estate of that old dude on the bicycle or the ballerina in the MW print. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 6, 2014 3:22:05 GMT 1, Nuart, you raise some really good points. I never thought of the tagging as a criticism on the high art ballet depiction but thats a great viewpoint. While I agree that corporations have the means to enforce copyrights, and are often the one to do so, I think that the brunt of protections still are there for artists. A good example is the recent suit against American Eagle by street artist AholSniffsGlue. They used his art without his permission in an ad campaign and he was able to force them to stop by enforcing his copyrights. I did a 'test' today. I chanced upon MW's latest IG photo today. This particular canvas with a biker on a high wheel bike stood out. I googled 'man on bike with big wheel front' and look how easily what I found? Any idea what this critique is about then? m.ebay.com/itm/110708033343People are gonna say I'm a hater again. But really, I am more than a little pissed how this can happen time and again with his works. I'm so glad I don't own any MW stuff. Next year, to call myself an artist with an individual style, I'm gonna lift an image I want from the net, photoshop it and tear up comics to cover a portion of the image. Job done. Any takers??
Haha what a joke. So lazy an artist. Being exposed left and right now. Wow.
Nuart, you raise some really good points. I never thought of the tagging as a criticism on the high art ballet depiction but thats a great viewpoint. While I agree that corporations have the means to enforce copyrights, and are often the one to do so, I think that the brunt of protections still are there for artists. A good example is the recent suit against American Eagle by street artist AholSniffsGlue. They used his art without his permission in an ad campaign and he was able to force them to stop by enforcing his copyrights. I did a 'test' today. I chanced upon MW's latest IG photo today. This particular canvas with a biker on a high wheel bike stood out. I googled 'man on bike with big wheel front' and look how easily what I found? Any idea what this critique is about then? m.ebay.com/itm/110708033343People are gonna say I'm a hater again. But really, I am more than a little pissed how this can happen time and again with his works. I'm so glad I don't own any MW stuff. Next year, to call myself an artist with an individual style, I'm gonna lift an image I want from the net, photoshop it and tear up comics to cover a portion of the image. Job done. Any takers?? Haha what a joke. So lazy an artist. Being exposed left and right now. Wow. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by thomasmer on Dec 6, 2014 3:48:52 GMT 1, Nuart, you raise some really good points. I never thought of the tagging as a criticism on the high art ballet depiction but thats a great viewpoint. While I agree that corporations have the means to enforce copyrights, and are often the one to do so, I think that the brunt of protections still are there for artists. A good example is the recent suit against American Eagle by street artist AholSniffsGlue. They used his art without his permission in an ad campaign and he was able to force them to stop by enforcing his copyrights. I did a 'test' today. I chanced upon MW's latest IG photo today. This particular canvas with a biker on a high wheel bike stood out. I googled 'man on bike with big wheel front' and look how easily what I found? Any idea what this critique is about then? m.ebay.com/itm/110708033343People are gonna say I'm a hater again. But really, I am more than a little pissed how this can happen time and again with his works. I'm so glad I don't own any MW stuff. Next year, to call myself an artist with an individual style, I'm gonna lift an image I want from the net, photoshop it and tear up comics to cover a portion of the image. Job done. Any takers??
Again this movement was built on the stealing of google images, sadly an ugly ballerina and a penny farthing rider were a waste of these tools in my eyes but loads of people like it so he must be doing something right!
Nuart, you raise some really good points. I never thought of the tagging as a criticism on the high art ballet depiction but thats a great viewpoint. While I agree that corporations have the means to enforce copyrights, and are often the one to do so, I think that the brunt of protections still are there for artists. A good example is the recent suit against American Eagle by street artist AholSniffsGlue. They used his art without his permission in an ad campaign and he was able to force them to stop by enforcing his copyrights. I did a 'test' today. I chanced upon MW's latest IG photo today. This particular canvas with a biker on a high wheel bike stood out. I googled 'man on bike with big wheel front' and look how easily what I found? Any idea what this critique is about then? m.ebay.com/itm/110708033343People are gonna say I'm a hater again. But really, I am more than a little pissed how this can happen time and again with his works. I'm so glad I don't own any MW stuff. Next year, to call myself an artist with an individual style, I'm gonna lift an image I want from the net, photoshop it and tear up comics to cover a portion of the image. Job done. Any takers?? He's hardly going to go take a photo of a leotard wearing penny farthing riding guy from the 1900's is he inspector! Again this movement was built on the stealing of google images, sadly an ugly ballerina and a penny farthing rider were a waste of these tools in my eyes but loads of people like it so he must be doing something right! |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by thomasmer on Dec 6, 2014 4:42:03 GMT 1, Street art will end up getting ruined and pushed into the same corner as hip hop, with their use of sampling and beats, both were born on the use of other people work, then the snitches came along.
Did anyone ever find out who ratted Martin in?
Street art will end up getting ruined and pushed into the same corner as hip hop, with their use of sampling and beats, both were born on the use of other people work, then the snitches came along.
Did anyone ever find out who ratted Martin in?
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Chrisp on Dec 6, 2014 6:07:23 GMT 1, Not looked in on this for 20 odd pages. Can someone outline what's happened?
Not looked in on this for 20 odd pages. Can someone outline what's happened?
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by natstan on Dec 6, 2014 6:52:58 GMT 1, Not looked in on this for 20 odd pages. Can someone outline what's happened?
Apparently MW just took images off the net without permission and gave them a spin to make it his own.
Not looked in on this for 20 odd pages. Can someone outline what's happened? Apparently MW just took images off the net without permission and gave them a spin to make it his own. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by petro on Dec 6, 2014 7:23:42 GMT 1, All of Whatson's pieces are pictures grabbed off the internet and fed through live trace in Illustrator. That has been painfully obvious to me since he first came on the scene. That's also why I've never collected his work. 
All of Whatson's pieces are pictures grabbed off the internet and fed through live trace in Illustrator. That has been painfully obvious to me since he first came on the scene. That's also why I've never collected his work. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by .dappy on Dec 6, 2014 8:57:48 GMT 1,
... you can't beat an astronaut with a butterfly  ...
... you can't beat an astronaut with a butterfly ... |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by mutatis on Dec 6, 2014 11:10:45 GMT 1, ... you can't beat an astronaut with a butterfly ...
Got any examples you'd care to share? ;-)
... you can't beat an astronaut with a butterfly ... Got any examples you'd care to share? ;-) |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by daveart on Dec 6, 2014 13:53:18 GMT 1, Martin Whatson is a very nice guy . He is open to talking about these questions some people have. He is aware of these issues and told me that he does seek out permission where needed . That he is in cases using his own photographs or photographs of pictures he has purchased rights to. In other cases as mentioned above the photos are very old and not much is needed. Maybe also he has made some mistakes .. I have not knowledge of how the legalities of all these things work .. I do believe To say he is simply steeling and not adding any talent or value is a bit harsh in my opinion
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Martin Whatson is a very nice guy . He is open to talking about these questions some people have. He is aware of these issues and told me that he does seek out permission where needed . That he is in cases using his own photographs or photographs of pictures he has purchased rights to. In other cases as mentioned above the photos are very old and not much is needed. Maybe also he has made some mistakes .. I have not knowledge of how the legalities of all these things work .. I do believe To say he is simply steeling and not adding any talent or value is a bit harsh in my opinion
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Poster Bob on Dec 6, 2014 14:14:58 GMT 1, That's from 1880 and should be considered public domain so there's no issue there unless you simply prefer wholely original work.
I did a 'test' today. I chanced upon MW's latest IG photo today. This particular canvas with a biker on a high wheel bike stood out. I googled 'man on bike with big wheel front' and look how easily what I found? Any idea what this critique is about then? m.ebay.com/itm/110708033343People are gonna say I'm a hater again. But really, I am more than a little pissed how this can happen time and again with his works. I'm so glad I don't own any MW stuff. Next year, to call myself an artist with an individual style, I'm gonna lift an image I want from the net, photoshop it and tear up comics to cover a portion of the image. Job done. Any takers?? Haha what a joke. So lazy an artist. Being exposed left and right now. Wow.
That's from 1880 and should be considered public domain so there's no issue there unless you simply prefer wholely original work. I did a 'test' today. I chanced upon MW's latest IG photo today. This particular canvas with a biker on a high wheel bike stood out. I googled 'man on bike with big wheel front' and look how easily what I found? Any idea what this critique is about then? m.ebay.com/itm/110708033343People are gonna say I'm a hater again. But really, I am more than a little pissed how this can happen time and again with his works. I'm so glad I don't own any MW stuff. Next year, to call myself an artist with an individual style, I'm gonna lift an image I want from the net, photoshop it and tear up comics to cover a portion of the image. Job done. Any takers?? Haha what a joke. So lazy an artist. Being exposed left and right now. Wow. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Hairbland on Dec 6, 2014 14:58:34 GMT 1, Street art will end up getting ruined and pushed into the same corner as hip hop, with their use of sampling and beats, both were born on the use of other people work, then the snitches came along. Did anyone ever find out who ratted Martin in?
A great many sampled classic hip hop records continued to come out after. They just had to clear the samples.
As to street art...it's how the artist interprets...which really holds true of most art. But if Martin Whatson or Sandra Chevrier, for example, are street artists that's news to me. They both seem like artists, good or bad or in between, riding a scene.
Street art will end up getting ruined and pushed into the same corner as hip hop, with their use of sampling and beats, both were born on the use of other people work, then the snitches came along. Did anyone ever find out who ratted Martin in? Actually not true, I worked in the music biz during this time. The sampling became an issue because everyone heard the samples and thus they were easily identifiable, and the hits made lots of money. And much like the recurrent images we see here, many used the same samples over and over so it was impossible to ignore. Nobody snitched - you heard the songs on the radio. So rights holders, on behalf of people like James Brown and others being ripped off sued. Those sampling were then forced to get approvals or manufacturing plants wouldn't manufacture. And by the way in many cases the sample, or pre-existing work, was the best part of the song - the hook. A great many sampled classic hip hop records continued to come out after. They just had to clear the samples. As to street art...it's how the artist interprets...which really holds true of most art. But if Martin Whatson or Sandra Chevrier, for example, are street artists that's news to me. They both seem like artists, good or bad or in between, riding a scene. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by petro on Dec 6, 2014 17:25:04 GMT 1, That's from 1880 and should be considered public domain so there's no issue there unless you simply prefer wholely original work. Haha what a joke. So lazy an artist. Being exposed left and right now. Wow.
That's from 1880 and should be considered public domain so there's no issue there unless you simply prefer wholely original work. Haha what a joke. So lazy an artist. Being exposed left and right now. Wow. Yeah, that's my problem with him. If you're going to call yourself an artist, you should be able to draw. I could care less about the copyright infringement aspect. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Chrisp on Dec 6, 2014 18:12:27 GMT 1, That's from 1880 and should be considered public domain so there's no issue there unless you simply prefer wholely original work. Yeah, that's my problem with him. If you're going to call yourself an artist, you should be able to draw. I could care less about the copyright infringement aspect.
That's from 1880 and should be considered public domain so there's no issue there unless you simply prefer wholely original work. Yeah, that's my problem with him. If you're going to call yourself an artist, you should be able to draw. I could care less about the copyright infringement aspect. Thats 50% of the art world out then. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Fairxat on Dec 6, 2014 18:56:50 GMT 1, I did a 'test' today. I chanced upon MW's latest IG photo today. This particular canvas with a biker on a high wheel bike stood out. I googled 'man on bike with big wheel front' and look how easily what I found? Any idea what this critique is about then? m.ebay.com/itm/110708033343People are gonna say I'm a hater again. But really, I am more than a little pissed how this can happen time and again with his works. I'm so glad I don't own any MW stuff. Next year, to call myself an artist with an individual style, I'm gonna lift an image I want from the net, photoshop it and tear up comics to cover a portion of the image. Job done. Any takers?? Haha what a joke. So lazy an artist. Being exposed left and right now. Wow.
m.ebay.co.uk/itm/251740022475?nav=SEARCH
Whats the problem ? Facing the opposite direction !
Any takers
I did a 'test' today. I chanced upon MW's latest IG photo today. This particular canvas with a biker on a high wheel bike stood out. I googled 'man on bike with big wheel front' and look how easily what I found? Any idea what this critique is about then? m.ebay.com/itm/110708033343People are gonna say I'm a hater again. But really, I am more than a little pissed how this can happen time and again with his works. I'm so glad I don't own any MW stuff. Next year, to call myself an artist with an individual style, I'm gonna lift an image I want from the net, photoshop it and tear up comics to cover a portion of the image. Job done. Any takers?? Haha what a joke. So lazy an artist. Being exposed left and right now. Wow. Whats the problem ? Facing the opposite direction ! Any takers |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Hairbland on Dec 6, 2014 20:07:35 GMT 1, Yeah, that's my problem with him. If you're going to call yourself an artist, you should be able to draw. I could care less about the copyright infringement aspect. Thats 50% of the art world out then.
With this case of the old cyclist, I just don't see how the image works in any way...what does the cyclist represent, and why is it tagged?
Personally, to me it looks like a really lame-*ss dorm print canvas sold anywhere. And I thought the same when I saw the images from the show this was hung at.
i mean, really...what's the point?
Lame copped prettified images with no message? How "street"! Edgy!
I call bs.
Yeah, that's my problem with him. If you're going to call yourself an artist, you should be able to draw. I could care less about the copyright infringement aspect. Thats 50% of the art world out then. Maybe, maybe not - certainly a very broad generalization. With this case of the old cyclist, I just don't see how the image works in any way...what does the cyclist represent, and why is it tagged? Personally, to me it looks like a really lame-*ss dorm print canvas sold anywhere. And I thought the same when I saw the images from the show this was hung at. i mean, really...what's the point? Lame copped prettified images with no message? How "street"! Edgy! I call bs. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Rouen Cathedral on Dec 6, 2014 22:23:06 GMT 1, That's from 1880 and should be considered public domain so there's no issue there unless you simply prefer wholely original work. Yeah, that's my problem with him. If you're going to call yourself an artist, you should be able to draw. I could care less about the copyright infringement aspect.
Yes this piece 'legal' due to public domain. At least what's on fixed that issue. Lol
I find it so lazy though. As others have said it's taken an image. Using live trace and using what comes out without any idea of artist liberty. It's a shame and shows a lot about his 'style'.
Can someone live trace that photo and see if whatson at least touched it at all? It doesn't really seem like it.
That's from 1880 and should be considered public domain so there's no issue there unless you simply prefer wholely original work. Yeah, that's my problem with him. If you're going to call yourself an artist, you should be able to draw. I could care less about the copyright infringement aspect. Yes this piece 'legal' due to public domain. At least what's on fixed that issue. Lol I find it so lazy though. As others have said it's taken an image. Using live trace and using what comes out without any idea of artist liberty. It's a shame and shows a lot about his 'style'. Can someone live trace that photo and see if whatson at least touched it at all? It doesn't really seem like it. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 14:23:27 GMT 1, Such vomit. Artists should be exempt from this constricting whiteman bulls**t.
Such vomit. Artists should be exempt from this constricting whiteman bulls**t. I don't know what you mean but I agree |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 14:32:23 GMT 1, Nuart, you raise some really good points. I never thought of the tagging as a criticism on the high art ballet depiction but thats a great viewpoint. While I agree that corporations have the means to enforce copyrights, and are often the one to do so, I think that the brunt of protections still are there for artists. A good example is the recent suit against American Eagle by street artist AholSniffsGlue. They used his art without his permission in an ad campaign and he was able to force them to stop by enforcing his copyrights. So could Penguin books sue Harland Miller? Harland Miller makes large oïl paintings depicting penguin book covers so it's not breach of copyright as he is not stealing penguin book designs and re selling as books.
He is basically painting still lifes with books as the subjects.
Sandra Chevrier created original art and used collage in an innovative way on her orginal paintings. So very much doubt it's breach of copyright.
Whatson might use tagging which millions of graffiti sprayers have done on cars and things and police horses etc which is fine.
He didn't invent tagging and the use of ancient and old out of copyright images is fair game but actually taking a contemporary artists painting from Google or the web etc and scaling it up then making a stencil and spraying some tags on it is still ripping off the artist who made the original painting.
For some reason Whatson makes awful faces too and who knows if it is his intention, if he does it deliberately or is just a bad artist?
Nuart, you raise some really good points. I never thought of the tagging as a criticism on the high art ballet depiction but thats a great viewpoint. While I agree that corporations have the means to enforce copyrights, and are often the one to do so, I think that the brunt of protections still are there for artists. A good example is the recent suit against American Eagle by street artist AholSniffsGlue. They used his art without his permission in an ad campaign and he was able to force them to stop by enforcing his copyrights. So could Penguin books sue Harland Miller? Harland Miller makes large oïl paintings depicting penguin book covers so it's not breach of copyright as he is not stealing penguin book designs and re selling as books.
He is basically painting still lifes with books as the subjects.
Sandra Chevrier created original art and used collage in an innovative way on her orginal paintings. So very much doubt it's breach of copyright.
Whatson might use tagging which millions of graffiti sprayers have done on cars and things and police horses etc which is fine.
He didn't invent tagging and the use of ancient and old out of copyright images is fair game but actually taking a contemporary artists painting from Google or the web etc and scaling it up then making a stencil and spraying some tags on it is still ripping off the artist who made the original painting.
For some reason Whatson makes awful faces too and who knows if it is his intention, if he does it deliberately or is just a bad artist?
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by curiousgeorge on Dec 8, 2014 15:13:57 GMT 1, The purpose of copyright law is to protect artists. Every single working artist (visual artists, authors, filmmakers) relys on these protections to make a living. Possibly in a pre-digital age, but copyright law was hijacked by corporations long ago, it's now generally employed by corporate lawyers as a tool to propagate fear amongst your average consumer in order to protect the interests of the 1%. I'm with Thomasmer. As for "MW's image does not not contain the same type of direct criticism"Employing tags (and everything they inherently stand for) on elements taken from "high" culture and nature (Ballet Dancers, Michelangelo's David etc etc) would be regarded as "direct criticism". That's what tagging is. That's what tagging does. 
The purpose of copyright law is to protect artists. Every single working artist (visual artists, authors, filmmakers) relys on these protections to make a living. Possibly in a pre-digital age, but copyright law was hijacked by corporations long ago, it's now generally employed by corporate lawyers as a tool to propagate fear amongst your average consumer in order to protect the interests of the 1%. I'm with Thomasmer. As for "MW's image does not not contain the same type of direct criticism"Employing tags (and everything they inherently stand for) on elements taken from "high" culture and nature (Ballet Dancers, Michelangelo's David etc etc) would be regarded as "direct criticism". That's what tagging is. That's what tagging does. What is tagging again? What does it represent? To be clear…. |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Chrisp on Dec 8, 2014 15:35:45 GMT 1, Tagging is all about 'getting up' so to speak, it way for humans to do what's called in the animal world 'spreading their scent'.
Tagging is pretty different in the UK to what it can mean in the US. Brief description.
Tagging is all about 'getting up' so to speak, it way for humans to do what's called in the animal world 'spreading their scent'.
Tagging is pretty different in the UK to what it can mean in the US. Brief description.
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by natstan on Dec 8, 2014 15:54:15 GMT 1, Read the other recent thread on jason seife. The audacity and extent in which images are lifted and then combined to call it his own is just, in my opinion, jaw-dropping.
Read the other recent thread on jason seife. The audacity and extent in which images are lifted and then combined to call it his own is just, in my opinion, jaw-dropping.
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by sal on Jan 20, 2016 11:30:58 GMT 1, Martin Whatson generously donated the following works to solidARTy.org and the auctions are ending later today!
“My kingdom for a crown”
Mini canvas ed 12.
20×30 cm spray paint and marker on canvas
Signed and numbered
Bid here!
“Napoleon”
Collaboration with Dot Dot Dot
Signed by both artists
65×65 cm handfinsihed screenprint
Ed. 5 (#5/5)
Bid here!
“Eternal Reflection”
60×80 cm screenprint
Hand finished with marker
ed. 1/1
Bid here!
All the works are shipping from Norway! Good luck!
Martin Whatson generously donated the following works to solidARTy.org and the auctions are ending later today! “My kingdom for a crown” Mini canvas ed 12. 20×30 cm spray paint and marker on canvas Signed and numbered Bid here!“Napoleon” Collaboration with Dot Dot Dot Signed by both artists 65×65 cm handfinsihed screenprint Ed. 5 (#5/5) Bid here!“Eternal Reflection” 60×80 cm screenprint Hand finished with marker ed. 1/1 Bid here!All the works are shipping from Norway! Good luck! |
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Martin Whatson En Pointe Print Release, by Zippy on Jan 20, 2016 12:31:36 GMT 1, Martin Whatson generously donated the following works to solidARTy.org and the auctions are ending later today! “My kingdom for a crown” Mini canvas ed 12. 20×30 cm spray paint and marker on canvas Signed and numbered Bid here!“Napoleon” Collaboration with Dot Dot Dot Signed by both artists 65×65 cm handfinsihed screenprint Ed. 5 (#5/5) Bid here!“Eternal Reflection” 60×80 cm screenprint Hand finished with marker ed. 1/1 Bid here!All the works are shipping from Norway! Good luck!
Very generous of the Artist to donate and to a great cause. I hope it raises good money for the charity.
Martin Whatson generously donated the following works to solidARTy.org and the auctions are ending later today! “My kingdom for a crown” Mini canvas ed 12. 20×30 cm spray paint and marker on canvas Signed and numbered Bid here!“Napoleon” Collaboration with Dot Dot Dot Signed by both artists 65×65 cm handfinsihed screenprint Ed. 5 (#5/5) Bid here!“Eternal Reflection” 60×80 cm screenprint Hand finished with marker ed. 1/1 Bid here!All the works are shipping from Norway! Good luck! Very generous of the Artist to donate and to a great cause. I hope it raises good money for the charity. |
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