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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 22:02:15 GMT 1, Why are we spending so much effort on the possibility of and potential consequences resulting from people eventually selling a hypothetical print?
Getting it out if the way, and making sure the club members' interests are aligned with that of the club. I think I've said all I have to on the subject.
Why are we spending so much effort on the possibility of and potential consequences resulting from people eventually selling a hypothetical print? Getting it out if the way, and making sure the club members' interests are aligned with that of the club. I think I've said all I have to on the subject.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by doctor on Aug 6, 2014 22:11:15 GMT 1, A better way to get around flipping is to use lesser known artists. No offense, but if Dolk agreed to do this, and signed the print "To Steve who was born on November 22 and whose favorite color is green, and here is a sketch of his mother", and Steve didn't like the print and the forum is going coo coo for coco puffs over it, he's going to sell it. Maybe for cost like a cool guy, or maybe to make a little cash because he's the scummiest man who ever lived.
If however, a cool, up and coming artist, or a somewhat established but maybe not big in the print scene artists agreed (better chance on either I would imagine, *cough* maybe someone like Victor van Gaasbeek *cough*), then the flipping would be kept to a minimal, as they would not be overly hyped artists to begin with.
Also a slightly more realistic goal. And you could do a couple trial runs with the smaller/less hyped guys before trying for a big fish, which would give you a better idea as to the makeup of the group (ie weed out the bad apples before the opportunity presents itself for flipping a bigger name).
A better way to get around flipping is to use lesser known artists. No offense, but if Dolk agreed to do this, and signed the print "To Steve who was born on November 22 and whose favorite color is green, and here is a sketch of his mother", and Steve didn't like the print and the forum is going coo coo for coco puffs over it, he's going to sell it. Maybe for cost like a cool guy, or maybe to make a little cash because he's the scummiest man who ever lived.
If however, a cool, up and coming artist, or a somewhat established but maybe not big in the print scene artists agreed (better chance on either I would imagine, *cough* maybe someone like Victor van Gaasbeek *cough*), then the flipping would be kept to a minimal, as they would not be overly hyped artists to begin with.
Also a slightly more realistic goal. And you could do a couple trial runs with the smaller/less hyped guys before trying for a big fish, which would give you a better idea as to the makeup of the group (ie weed out the bad apples before the opportunity presents itself for flipping a bigger name).
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by johnnyh on Aug 6, 2014 22:14:16 GMT 1, While I still like this idea, being a nazi when people want to sell or trade a print they simply don't like, doesnt sound like a good idea. I mean you want to create an art club for people that like art, right? So what if the print that's being produced for my $400 isn't to my liking at all, should I still frame and hang it because I like 'art'? I always thought art was about having stuff on your walls that you like. I'm pretty sure nobody would want to feel forced to hang something they don't like, and that's essentially what you're doing when you are making it impossible for people to ever sell or trade their print. Because then it's just gonna sit in storage for eternity, after which your whole idea of people getting a print 'for the art' has vanished.
How hard is it?? What he is saying is if you don't like it and don't agree with the concept etc etc...don't join it.
As I recall it's his idea and his concept and as he says not for everyone.
All the people who say when can I sell it? What if I don't like It? Etc etc are the people he does not want to join.
Now whether it works or not who knows. But he is looking for a group of people who say ... Yeh fair enough I game for that and I'm in
Nothing wrong with either concept except he only wants the second group and likewise smart pee in the first group won't join as not for them.
So a huge amount of debate here but I am not sure why... Don 't like it don't join Do like it do join
It's DSS thing and concept no one has to join as far as I can see.everyone assumes it's an alian concept but galleries and artists have VIP lists where they offer things. So maybe some will do a special for a small group who knows whether the original list will. But to be fair they have not said no yet either
While I still like this idea, being a nazi when people want to sell or trade a print they simply don't like, doesnt sound like a good idea. I mean you want to create an art club for people that like art, right? So what if the print that's being produced for my $400 isn't to my liking at all, should I still frame and hang it because I like 'art'? I always thought art was about having stuff on your walls that you like. I'm pretty sure nobody would want to feel forced to hang something they don't like, and that's essentially what you're doing when you are making it impossible for people to ever sell or trade their print. Because then it's just gonna sit in storage for eternity, after which your whole idea of people getting a print 'for the art' has vanished. How hard is it?? What he is saying is if you don't like it and don't agree with the concept etc etc...don't join it. As I recall it's his idea and his concept and as he says not for everyone. All the people who say when can I sell it? What if I don't like It? Etc etc are the people he does not want to join. Now whether it works or not who knows. But he is looking for a group of people who say ... Yeh fair enough I game for that and I'm in Nothing wrong with either concept except he only wants the second group and likewise smart pee in the first group won't join as not for them. So a huge amount of debate here but I am not sure why... Don 't like it don't join Do like it do join It's DSS thing and concept no one has to join as far as I can see.everyone assumes it's an alian concept but galleries and artists have VIP lists where they offer things. So maybe some will do a special for a small group who knows whether the original list will. But to be fair they have not said no yet either
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by alittle on Aug 6, 2014 22:15:34 GMT 1, Who wants to walk when you can run?
Who wants to walk when you can run?
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by petro on Aug 6, 2014 22:18:07 GMT 1, Alright, this quickly went from exciting to annoying. You can take me off the list. I don't see this going anywhere good when a single person is dictating what the "member interests" are, without ever polling said members to get their opinion. Then threatening to "blacklist" members from UAA if they fail to comply with your rules. All while asking members to paypal you $40,000 per print. This has disaster written all over it. No thanks.
Alright, this quickly went from exciting to annoying. You can take me off the list. I don't see this going anywhere good when a single person is dictating what the "member interests" are, without ever polling said members to get their opinion. Then threatening to "blacklist" members from UAA if they fail to comply with your rules. All while asking members to paypal you $40,000 per print. This has disaster written all over it. No thanks.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Poster Bob on Aug 6, 2014 22:29:22 GMT 1, Alright, this quickly went from exciting to annoying. You can take me off the list. I don't see this going anywhere good when a single person is dictating what the "member interests" are, without ever polling said members to get their opinion. Then threatening to "blacklist" members from UAA if they fail to comply with your rules. All while asking members to paypal you $40,000 per print. This has disaster written all over it. No thanks. Mondo flipper?
Alright, this quickly went from exciting to annoying. You can take me off the list. I don't see this going anywhere good when a single person is dictating what the "member interests" are, without ever polling said members to get their opinion. Then threatening to "blacklist" members from UAA if they fail to comply with your rules. All while asking members to paypal you $40,000 per print. This has disaster written all over it. No thanks. Mondo flipper?
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by petro on Aug 6, 2014 22:31:06 GMT 1, Alright, this quickly went from exciting to annoying. You can take me off the list. I don't see this going anywhere good when a single person is dictating what the "member interests" are, without ever polling said members to get their opinion. Then threatening to "blacklist" members from UAA if they fail to comply with your rules. All while asking members to paypal you $40,000 per print. This has disaster written all over it. No thanks. Mondo flipper? Never sold a print in my life, dude. But you would know that if you read the thread.
Alright, this quickly went from exciting to annoying. You can take me off the list. I don't see this going anywhere good when a single person is dictating what the "member interests" are, without ever polling said members to get their opinion. Then threatening to "blacklist" members from UAA if they fail to comply with your rules. All while asking members to paypal you $40,000 per print. This has disaster written all over it. No thanks. Mondo flipper? Never sold a print in my life, dude. But you would know that if you read the thread.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Poster Bob on Aug 6, 2014 22:32:24 GMT 1, You're from Austin and don't like the inability to resell prints. It's a very logical conclusion.
You're from Austin and don't like the inability to resell prints. It's a very logical conclusion.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by petro on Aug 6, 2014 22:33:41 GMT 1, You're from Austin and don't like the inability to resell prints. It's a very logical conclusion. Not into movie posters. Never bought anything from Mondo. Sorry, can't help ya.
You're from Austin and don't like the inability to resell prints. It's a very logical conclusion. Not into movie posters. Never bought anything from Mondo. Sorry, can't help ya.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 22:34:26 GMT 1, Dont let the thread go tits up, its bound to have teething troubles which need ironing out so if your up for it hang in there, its only a few days old of an idea, if you dont agree with something then ask the OP and air your concerns, maybe it can be ironed out amicably.
Bound to be problems.
Dont let the thread go tits up, its bound to have teething troubles which need ironing out so if your up for it hang in there, its only a few days old of an idea, if you dont agree with something then ask the OP and air your concerns, maybe it can be ironed out amicably.
Bound to be problems.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by South Bound on Aug 6, 2014 22:37:31 GMT 1, This went from Exciting > Annoying > Exciting again. I will take Petro in the 4th round.
This went from Exciting > Annoying > Exciting again. I will take Petro in the 4th round.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by petro on Aug 6, 2014 22:49:59 GMT 1, This went from Exciting > Annoying > Exciting again. I will take Petro in the 4th round. Nah, I'm out of here. But, I'll stop by again when this turns into another Outis or BNE thread.
This went from Exciting > Annoying > Exciting again. I will take Petro in the 4th round. Nah, I'm out of here. But, I'll stop by again when this turns into another Outis or BNE thread.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by lvanhoe on Aug 6, 2014 22:54:19 GMT 1, While I still like this idea, being a nazi when people want to sell or trade a print they simply don't like, doesnt sound like a good idea. I mean you want to create an art club for people that like art, right? So what if the print that's being produced for my $400 isn't to my liking at all, should I still frame and hang it because I like 'art'? I always thought art was about having stuff on your walls that you like. I'm pretty sure nobody would want to feel forced to hang something they don't like, and that's essentially what you're doing when you are making it impossible for people to ever sell or trade their print. Because then it's just gonna sit in storage for eternity, after which your whole idea of people getting a print 'for the art' has vanished. How hard is it?? What he is saying is if you don't like it and don't agree with the concept etc etc...don't join it. As I recall it's his idea and his concept and as he says not for everyone. All the people who say when can I sell it? What if I don't like It? Etc etc are the people he does not want to join. Now whether it works or not who knows. But he is looking for a group of people who say ... Yeh fair enough I game for that and I'm in Nothing wrong with either concept except he only wants the second group and likewise smart pee in the first group won't join as not for them. So a huge amount of debate here but I am not sure why... Don 't like it don't join Do like it do join It's DSS thing and concept no one has to join as far as I can see.everyone assumes it's an alian concept but galleries and artists have VIP lists where they offer things. So maybe some will do a special for a small group who knows whether the original list will. But to be fair they have not said no yet either I'm simply having an intellectual problem with the idea of a group that likes art for the image and not for the value of it (which, to me, sounds wonderful) while at the same time trying to prevent a member of said group from getting rid of an image he or she does not like (which, to me, sounds horrible).
Ideally you would have have 200/250 people on the interest list, you would then present them the name of the artist that's going to do the print and maybe a vague description of the style that's gonna be used, after which you decide on the size of the release and have people sign in for the release by paying $ upfront. If there are more people interested in the artist/style at hand, than the amount of prints released, you'd have a lottery that decides who gets the print.
Then, when someone does not like the final result, he gets the chance to pass it on to another member om the waitlist. But all that being said - it all depends on the morals of the people involved in this club. You only need a few flippers to make this a failure.
While I still like this idea, being a nazi when people want to sell or trade a print they simply don't like, doesnt sound like a good idea. I mean you want to create an art club for people that like art, right? So what if the print that's being produced for my $400 isn't to my liking at all, should I still frame and hang it because I like 'art'? I always thought art was about having stuff on your walls that you like. I'm pretty sure nobody would want to feel forced to hang something they don't like, and that's essentially what you're doing when you are making it impossible for people to ever sell or trade their print. Because then it's just gonna sit in storage for eternity, after which your whole idea of people getting a print 'for the art' has vanished. How hard is it?? What he is saying is if you don't like it and don't agree with the concept etc etc...don't join it. As I recall it's his idea and his concept and as he says not for everyone. All the people who say when can I sell it? What if I don't like It? Etc etc are the people he does not want to join. Now whether it works or not who knows. But he is looking for a group of people who say ... Yeh fair enough I game for that and I'm in Nothing wrong with either concept except he only wants the second group and likewise smart pee in the first group won't join as not for them. So a huge amount of debate here but I am not sure why... Don 't like it don't join Do like it do join It's DSS thing and concept no one has to join as far as I can see.everyone assumes it's an alian concept but galleries and artists have VIP lists where they offer things. So maybe some will do a special for a small group who knows whether the original list will. But to be fair they have not said no yet either I'm simply having an intellectual problem with the idea of a group that likes art for the image and not for the value of it (which, to me, sounds wonderful) while at the same time trying to prevent a member of said group from getting rid of an image he or she does not like (which, to me, sounds horrible). Ideally you would have have 200/250 people on the interest list, you would then present them the name of the artist that's going to do the print and maybe a vague description of the style that's gonna be used, after which you decide on the size of the release and have people sign in for the release by paying $ upfront. If there are more people interested in the artist/style at hand, than the amount of prints released, you'd have a lottery that decides who gets the print. Then, when someone does not like the final result, he gets the chance to pass it on to another member om the waitlist. But all that being said - it all depends on the morals of the people involved in this club. You only need a few flippers to make this a failure.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 23:47:44 GMT 1, Update - club is at 154 members after withdrawals, which doesn't include members whose information I still need (full name and email). Realistically it is around 170.
Update - club is at 154 members after withdrawals, which doesn't include members whose information I still need (full name and email). Realistically it is around 170.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Deleted on Aug 6, 2014 23:47:57 GMT 1, too much talk about flipping/reselling at this point... i think coller has a great idea and as the idea progresses he'll get a better idea of what works and what doesn't work and incorporate it into the plan.... still too early for people to be taking hard stances, since I think this thread was just to gauge the interest of the forum.
too much talk about flipping/reselling at this point... i think coller has a great idea and as the idea progresses he'll get a better idea of what works and what doesn't work and incorporate it into the plan.... still too early for people to be taking hard stances, since I think this thread was just to gauge the interest of the forum.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by natstan on Aug 7, 2014 2:36:26 GMT 1, Before even starting on anything in this whole endeavour, some legal questions to ask - whose name will be entering into a formal contract with the said artists? If anything goes wrong (artists not fulfilling their commitment within a stipulated timeframe, squabbles during the process due to artists not conforming or agreeing to the way the club wants it), who will be the one handling the messy situation? And if we were to form a club, does that mean there will need to be a few members coming together to form a company in order to clearly define the 2 parties in a formal legal contract? Does that change things because it will now be deemed a legal entity?
In a small one-to-one commissions, it might be simple. But when we are talking about 170 people and 1 artist, the going gets tough. I joined but would be extremely uncomfortable if there is no contractual obligations formed for any commissions. Those are big names with other obligations throughout the year, so it's logical to think they might even take years to fulfill a commission, especially one for a 'small' online art forum. Can one stay sane and wait that long if it happens?
Before even starting on anything in this whole endeavour, some legal questions to ask - whose name will be entering into a formal contract with the said artists? If anything goes wrong (artists not fulfilling their commitment within a stipulated timeframe, squabbles during the process due to artists not conforming or agreeing to the way the club wants it), who will be the one handling the messy situation? And if we were to form a club, does that mean there will need to be a few members coming together to form a company in order to clearly define the 2 parties in a formal legal contract? Does that change things because it will now be deemed a legal entity?
In a small one-to-one commissions, it might be simple. But when we are talking about 170 people and 1 artist, the going gets tough. I joined but would be extremely uncomfortable if there is no contractual obligations formed for any commissions. Those are big names with other obligations throughout the year, so it's logical to think they might even take years to fulfill a commission, especially one for a 'small' online art forum. Can one stay sane and wait that long if it happens?
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by johnnyh on Aug 7, 2014 5:03:40 GMT 1, How hard is it?? What he is saying is if you don't like it and don't agree with the concept etc etc...don't join it. As I recall it's his idea and his concept and as he says not for everyone. All the people who say when can I sell it? What if I don't like It? Etc etc are the people he does not want to join. Now whether it works or not who knows. But he is looking for a group of people who say ... Yeh fair enough I game for that and I'm in Nothing wrong with either concept except he only wants the second group and likewise smart pee in the first group won't join as not for them. So a huge amount of debate here but I am not sure why... Don 't like it don't join Do like it do join It's DSS thing and concept no one has to join as far as I can see.everyone assumes it's an alian concept but galleries and artists have VIP lists where they offer things. So maybe some will do a special for a small group who knows whether the original list will. But to be fair they have not said no yet either I'm simply having an intellectual problem with the idea of a group that likes art for the image and not for the value of it (which, to me, sounds wonderful) while at the same time trying to prevent a member of said group from getting rid of an image he or she does not like (which, to me, sounds horrible). Ideally you would have have 200/250 people on the interest list, you would then present them the name of the artist that's going to do the print and maybe a vague description of the style that's gonna be used, after which you decide on the size of the release and have people sign in for the release by paying $ upfront. If there are more people interested in the artist/style at hand, than the amount of prints released, you'd have a lottery that decides who gets the print. Then, when someone does not like the final result, he gets the chance to pass it on to another member om the waitlist. But all that being said - it all depends on the morals of the people involved in this club. You only need a few flippers to make this a failure. That's All fine Ivan. You can wish it pink as well and want all the prints for free etc etc. I am just saying simply read DSS descriptions of the club and that is what he is forming.
his concept is a group of people who commit to the concept, put the money in upfront when an artist has greed to do it, the artist does it you get the print etc etc. his concept has no after sales and passing it on. If the prints are flipped etc the artists may not do the commissions.
he does not have a sales format if you dislike the print. Lots of people want this and are coming up with ways but that's not what he is trying to solve as he wants people who won't sell them on for any reason. Will this change who knows but I doubt it reading his posts. He wants the artists to dedicate or name the prints to the person who buys not sure if you dislike it you can"t send it back to the artist and change the name etc. he also said in his very first post on the concept if you flip it you will get kicked out of the group. now you or I can like or dislike the concept but as far as I have read that is what it is. He has also said if that's not for you don't join it as it's quite obviously not for everyone.
as said before let's wait till he has organised things and worked through the details before jumping to conclusions but I do think people should read what he is saying as it seems relatively clear to me. Yes there are gaps etc but the base concept is quite clear.
Yet there are pages and pages of people telling him it will never work. But you know may be it will time will tell.
How hard is it?? What he is saying is if you don't like it and don't agree with the concept etc etc...don't join it. As I recall it's his idea and his concept and as he says not for everyone. All the people who say when can I sell it? What if I don't like It? Etc etc are the people he does not want to join. Now whether it works or not who knows. But he is looking for a group of people who say ... Yeh fair enough I game for that and I'm in Nothing wrong with either concept except he only wants the second group and likewise smart pee in the first group won't join as not for them. So a huge amount of debate here but I am not sure why... Don 't like it don't join Do like it do join It's DSS thing and concept no one has to join as far as I can see.everyone assumes it's an alian concept but galleries and artists have VIP lists where they offer things. So maybe some will do a special for a small group who knows whether the original list will. But to be fair they have not said no yet either I'm simply having an intellectual problem with the idea of a group that likes art for the image and not for the value of it (which, to me, sounds wonderful) while at the same time trying to prevent a member of said group from getting rid of an image he or she does not like (which, to me, sounds horrible). Ideally you would have have 200/250 people on the interest list, you would then present them the name of the artist that's going to do the print and maybe a vague description of the style that's gonna be used, after which you decide on the size of the release and have people sign in for the release by paying $ upfront. If there are more people interested in the artist/style at hand, than the amount of prints released, you'd have a lottery that decides who gets the print. Then, when someone does not like the final result, he gets the chance to pass it on to another member om the waitlist. But all that being said - it all depends on the morals of the people involved in this club. You only need a few flippers to make this a failure. That's All fine Ivan. You can wish it pink as well and want all the prints for free etc etc. I am just saying simply read DSS descriptions of the club and that is what he is forming. his concept is a group of people who commit to the concept, put the money in upfront when an artist has greed to do it, the artist does it you get the print etc etc. his concept has no after sales and passing it on. If the prints are flipped etc the artists may not do the commissions. he does not have a sales format if you dislike the print. Lots of people want this and are coming up with ways but that's not what he is trying to solve as he wants people who won't sell them on for any reason. Will this change who knows but I doubt it reading his posts. He wants the artists to dedicate or name the prints to the person who buys not sure if you dislike it you can"t send it back to the artist and change the name etc. he also said in his very first post on the concept if you flip it you will get kicked out of the group. now you or I can like or dislike the concept but as far as I have read that is what it is. He has also said if that's not for you don't join it as it's quite obviously not for everyone. as said before let's wait till he has organised things and worked through the details before jumping to conclusions but I do think people should read what he is saying as it seems relatively clear to me. Yes there are gaps etc but the base concept is quite clear. Yet there are pages and pages of people telling him it will never work. But you know may be it will time will tell.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by stvro22 on Aug 7, 2014 6:56:00 GMT 1, dss111 I hope you have a lot of free time on your hands. Sounds like a nice idea but I see a headache in the making. I hope I'm wrong. Best of luck.
This. From thread page 3.
dss111 I hope you have a lot of free time on your hands. Sounds like a nice idea but I see a headache in the making. I hope I'm wrong. Best of luck. This. From thread page 3.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Someones Brain on Aug 7, 2014 7:31:57 GMT 1, Again, I see more open legal and moral questions re: this club than answers given here. I wish you all the best with this idea.
If I should like one of the prints produced for the club I'll buy an AP directly from the artist ... just kidding
Again, I see more open legal and moral questions re: this club than answers given here. I wish you all the best with this idea. If I should like one of the prints produced for the club I'll buy an AP directly from the artist ... just kidding
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Art Fan 2011 on Aug 7, 2014 8:40:32 GMT 1, Il just pick one up from one of the members who declares that his "Girlfriend" does`nt like it / car has broken down / Tax bill too pay or pet hamster needs a heart bypass, so he needs to sell
Il just pick one up from one of the members who declares that his "Girlfriend" does`nt like it / car has broken down / Tax bill too pay or pet hamster needs a heart bypass, so he needs to sell
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by bonesy on Aug 7, 2014 14:30:20 GMT 1, I personally wouldn't take this commission if I were an artist, to many things can go wrong and the buyers will whine to the commissioned artist. My guess is that Banksy is no longer doing prints because of the issues with the last print release and the NOLA online sales.
I personally wouldn't take this commission if I were an artist, to many things can go wrong and the buyers will whine to the commissioned artist. My guess is that Banksy is no longer doing prints because of the issues with the last print release and the NOLA online sales.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 14:38:09 GMT 1, Il just pick one up from one of the members who declares that his "Girlfriend" does`nt like it / car has broken down / Tax bill too pay or pet hamster needs a heart bypass, so he needs to sell are you implying that my girlfriend doesn't exist? She's 5'11", blonde, gorgeous, but she lives out of state so no, you can't meet her
Il just pick one up from one of the members who declares that his "Girlfriend" does`nt like it / car has broken down / Tax bill too pay or pet hamster needs a heart bypass, so he needs to sell are you implying that my girlfriend doesn't exist? She's 5'11", blonde, gorgeous, but she lives out of state so no, you can't meet her
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Art Fan 2011
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Art Fan 2011 on Aug 7, 2014 15:23:22 GMT 1, Il just pick one up from one of the members who declares that his "Girlfriend" does`nt like it / car has broken down / Tax bill too pay or pet hamster needs a heart bypass, so he needs to sell are you implying that my girlfriend doesn't exist? She's 5'11", blonde, gorgeous, but she lives out of state so no, you can't meet her She sounds nice! If she does`nt like the commission piece if and when it goes ahead drop me a PM
Il just pick one up from one of the members who declares that his "Girlfriend" does`nt like it / car has broken down / Tax bill too pay or pet hamster needs a heart bypass, so he needs to sell are you implying that my girlfriend doesn't exist? She's 5'11", blonde, gorgeous, but she lives out of state so no, you can't meet her She sounds nice! If she does`nt like the commission piece if and when it goes ahead drop me a PM
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January 1970
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 16:57:45 GMT 1, This went from Exciting > Annoying > Exciting again. I will take Petro in the 4th round. Nah, I'm out of here. But, I'll stop by again when this turns into another Outis or BNE thread. Perhaps we could add BNE to the list of artists? I would like some new lip balm .... And i thought we were going to ask Outis Banksy too?
coller Great idea, I am in btw!
This went from Exciting > Annoying > Exciting again. I will take Petro in the 4th round. Nah, I'm out of here. But, I'll stop by again when this turns into another Outis or BNE thread. Perhaps we could add BNE to the list of artists? I would like some new lip balm .... And i thought we were going to ask Outis Banksy too? coller Great idea, I am in btw!
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January 1970
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 17:01:45 GMT 1, As an alternative; what about a flipper club - the primary objectives will be to hype obscure artists and create false demand for the ugliest \ bland \ repetitive prints - if you flip within 6 weeks you stay - if you make minimum 300% you get elite membership where you get all the extra spoils that the main club would never see - am i being cynical thinking the guy thats dropping 20k for a commission would be getting access to allsorts of other gems that the membership minions wouldnnt even be aware of (AP's, sketches, Studio visits....) - of course im being overly cyncial - all of this will be shared with the 350 + members signed up The only rule in flipper club is; If your still holding a flipper club print after 6 weeks then your'e out - you'll have to join that other 'never flip-it' club Already in existence.
As an alternative; what about a flipper club - the primary objectives will be to hype obscure artists and create false demand for the ugliest \ bland \ repetitive prints - if you flip within 6 weeks you stay - if you make minimum 300% you get elite membership where you get all the extra spoils that the main club would never see - am i being cynical thinking the guy thats dropping 20k for a commission would be getting access to allsorts of other gems that the membership minions wouldnnt even be aware of (AP's, sketches, Studio visits....) - of course im being overly cyncial - all of this will be shared with the 350 + members signed up The only rule in flipper club is; If your still holding a flipper club print after 6 weeks then your'e out - you'll have to join that other 'never flip-it' club Already in existence.
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johnnyh
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by johnnyh on Aug 7, 2014 17:18:39 GMT 1, It's kind of interesting for a street art forum that someone suggests or tries something a bit different which is based upon people buying art and keeping it.
And you get 9 pages of that will never work, loads of people will want to sell, if I don't like it instantly I want to sell it. What about legal and contracts, none of the artist will do it etc etc
I actually think that someone trying something different is a good thing. Who knows how it will or won't work but I certainly commend DSS for giving it ago.
just surprises me how many negative posts there are. And how many click a like on each negative post.
Nice too see such positivity on the forum. I can understand people not wanting to do it but am surprised at so many waiting and wanting it to fail. Particularly those with a fair number of stars who should no better and those with a few posts who just don't know better but should maybe wait a little longer.
I for one wish him luck in the concept and fair play you had an idea good luck trying to make it work.
makes a pleasant change from the send me an offer for this print I bought yesterday threads!!
It's kind of interesting for a street art forum that someone suggests or tries something a bit different which is based upon people buying art and keeping it.
And you get 9 pages of that will never work, loads of people will want to sell, if I don't like it instantly I want to sell it. What about legal and contracts, none of the artist will do it etc etc
I actually think that someone trying something different is a good thing. Who knows how it will or won't work but I certainly commend DSS for giving it ago.
just surprises me how many negative posts there are. And how many click a like on each negative post.
Nice too see such positivity on the forum. I can understand people not wanting to do it but am surprised at so many waiting and wanting it to fail. Particularly those with a fair number of stars who should no better and those with a few posts who just don't know better but should maybe wait a little longer.
I for one wish him luck in the concept and fair play you had an idea good luck trying to make it work.
makes a pleasant change from the send me an offer for this print I bought yesterday threads!!
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lvanhoe
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by lvanhoe on Aug 7, 2014 17:21:22 GMT 1, It's kind of interesting for a street art forum that someone suggests or tries something a bit different which is based upon people buying art and keeping it. And you get 9 pages of that will never work, loads of people will want to sell, if I don't like it instantly I want to sell it. What about legal and contracts, none of the artist will do it etc etc I actually think that someone trying something different is a good thing. Who knows how it will or won't work but I certainly commend DSS for giving it ago. just surprises me how many negative posts there are. And how many click a like on each negative post. Nice too see such positivity on the forum. I can understand people not wanting to do it but am surprised at so many waiting and wanting it to fail. Particularly those with a fair number of stars who should no better and those with a few posts who just don't know better but should maybe wait a little longer. That coming from a guy that kept spamming my newbie question threads with random hatred is pretty funny.
It's kind of interesting for a street art forum that someone suggests or tries something a bit different which is based upon people buying art and keeping it. And you get 9 pages of that will never work, loads of people will want to sell, if I don't like it instantly I want to sell it. What about legal and contracts, none of the artist will do it etc etc I actually think that someone trying something different is a good thing. Who knows how it will or won't work but I certainly commend DSS for giving it ago. just surprises me how many negative posts there are. And how many click a like on each negative post. Nice too see such positivity on the forum. I can understand people not wanting to do it but am surprised at so many waiting and wanting it to fail. Particularly those with a fair number of stars who should no better and those with a few posts who just don't know better but should maybe wait a little longer. That coming from a guy that kept spamming my newbie question threads with random hatred is pretty funny.
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alittle
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November 2012
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by alittle on Aug 7, 2014 17:32:39 GMT 1, johnnyh, what is so new about this concept? The movie poster fanatics on EB have been doing this for years, and their most recent foray in to the "urban" art world with Eelus is what prompted this very thread. coller is looking for a utopia, but he is never going to find it. You simply cannot control the intentions of others, nor what they choose to do with their own possessions.
johnnyh, what is so new about this concept? The movie poster fanatics on EB have been doing this for years, and their most recent foray in to the "urban" art world with Eelus is what prompted this very thread. coller is looking for a utopia, but he is never going to find it. You simply cannot control the intentions of others, nor what they choose to do with their own possessions.
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johnnyh
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March 2011
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by johnnyh on Aug 7, 2014 17:34:05 GMT 1, Well Ivan exactly. Your commenting on this thread a lot. Yet last week you didn't know how to take a print out if a tube.
Here is my post to you where I directed you to the information. Which you replied was all from 2007 which plainly wasn't true. So sorry chap I just then regarded you as an idiot. ----------------- Ivan you have a shed load of threads going nothing wrong with that....however you might want to go to the home page and go to the framing and art care bit. All this stuff is covered in great detail you will find it very useful as loads of threads with all your type of storage queries, flat ting prints etc on
Read more: urbanartassociation.com/thread/119354/moving-house-looking-quality-storage#ixzz39iy0MbR5
So as you can see my post to you was quite pleasant and offered a bit of helpful advice to a new member I Thought..so not negative at all.
Well Ivan exactly. Your commenting on this thread a lot. Yet last week you didn't know how to take a print out if a tube. Here is my post to you where I directed you to the information. Which you replied was all from 2007 which plainly wasn't true. So sorry chap I just then regarded you as an idiot. ----------------- Ivan you have a shed load of threads going nothing wrong with that....however you might want to go to the home page and go to the framing and art care bit. All this stuff is covered in great detail you will find it very useful as loads of threads with all your type of storage queries, flat ting prints etc on Read more: urbanartassociation.com/thread/119354/moving-house-looking-quality-storage#ixzz39iy0MbR5So as you can see my post to you was quite pleasant and offered a bit of helpful advice to a new member I Thought..so not negative at all.
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PRINT COMMISSION CLUB - Seed Thread, by Deleted on Aug 7, 2014 17:40:45 GMT 1, Moral questions have been answered, IMO. We have several people from the Eelus commission group as members, as well as members from other private commission groups, so will be discussing the legal aspects with them, but I don't personally see why we need to form a corporation for this to work. We will see.
Moral questions have been answered, IMO. We have several people from the Eelus commission group as members, as well as members from other private commission groups, so will be discussing the legal aspects with them, but I don't personally see why we need to form a corporation for this to work. We will see.
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