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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 19:30:07 GMT 1, "It is becoming a popular sales tactic / ploy to link an item, albeit worded very carefully, with Banksy.
If people are eager to help out a charity there are plenty to choose from, ie. give a homeless guy the $350.
If on the other hand people have profit in mind then the risk involved to that persons finances is of their own doing."
"It is becoming a popular sales tactic / ploy to link an item, albeit worded very carefully, with Banksy.
If people are eager to help out a charity there are plenty to choose from, ie. give a homeless guy the $350.
If on the other hand people have profit in mind then the risk involved to that persons finances is of their own doing."
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by bullysonzx10r on Jul 21, 2014 19:52:04 GMT 1, So I ordered more than 1 of the shirts, in fact I ordered 3. Now, before you start to lambast me as a flipper, my original thought was "Buy two that you can potentially frame if it has a front and back image, and one that you can wear."
After this whole thing happened, I hung in till BNE failed to provide the Faile COAs to everyone, which IMHO was an obvious admittance that he made WAY more than 100 of those shirts, and was being dishonest.
At that time, I cancelled 2 of my orders, and left one intact. I did this because... Why not? getting the money back wasn't going to make me rich, hoping it would go to the Water Charity could potentially help some people, and I'll be very honest, I probably would not have taken that money and sent it directly to a charity if I had it back in my bank account.
My Tee showed up this weekend, and it's probably going to end up being a workout Tee for me as opposed to anything else. Hell, I even purchased my first Six Print because of this whole incident (Pool Closed) and have it hanging in my living room -- looks great, Six.
With this new revelation, it'll be interesting to see if BNE continues to be full of shit, which I have every reason to believe he is, or to see if he was the Ring Master all along.
Worst case scenario, I spent way too much on a T-shirt that I'll probably only wear to the gym.
So I ordered more than 1 of the shirts, in fact I ordered 3. Now, before you start to lambast me as a flipper, my original thought was "Buy two that you can potentially frame if it has a front and back image, and one that you can wear."
After this whole thing happened, I hung in till BNE failed to provide the Faile COAs to everyone, which IMHO was an obvious admittance that he made WAY more than 100 of those shirts, and was being dishonest.
At that time, I cancelled 2 of my orders, and left one intact. I did this because... Why not? getting the money back wasn't going to make me rich, hoping it would go to the Water Charity could potentially help some people, and I'll be very honest, I probably would not have taken that money and sent it directly to a charity if I had it back in my bank account.
My Tee showed up this weekend, and it's probably going to end up being a workout Tee for me as opposed to anything else. Hell, I even purchased my first Six Print because of this whole incident (Pool Closed) and have it hanging in my living room -- looks great, Six.
With this new revelation, it'll be interesting to see if BNE continues to be full of shit, which I have every reason to believe he is, or to see if he was the Ring Master all along.
Worst case scenario, I spent way too much on a T-shirt that I'll probably only wear to the gym.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by microfluo on Jul 21, 2014 20:04:06 GMT 1, FFS not again. I totally forgot about this.
At first i thought it was legit because of all the well known artist involved so i decided to buy the collab T-shirt. Then Banksy denied having done a collab for world water day. At that time i had a real questioning to myself about charity vs Banksy and art. At the end i decided not asking a refund because i thought the water cause deserved more than an 100 quids and greedy things. I did that also sellfishly :not to have remorse getting my money back while the first aim was to help people in need. With that choice my mind was at ease!
Now the BNE's story is back again and i've just read that the money wasn't even given to world water charity. I hope is just a bad nightmare...Needless to talk about the mysterious print.
I just hope at the end of the money given will go to help a good cause !
FFS not again. I totally forgot about this.
At first i thought it was legit because of all the well known artist involved so i decided to buy the collab T-shirt. Then Banksy denied having done a collab for world water day. At that time i had a real questioning to myself about charity vs Banksy and art. At the end i decided not asking a refund because i thought the water cause deserved more than an 100 quids and greedy things. I did that also sellfishly :not to have remorse getting my money back while the first aim was to help people in need. With that choice my mind was at ease!
Now the BNE's story is back again and i've just read that the money wasn't even given to world water charity. I hope is just a bad nightmare...Needless to talk about the mysterious print.
I just hope at the end of the money given will go to help a good cause !
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by bigp on Jul 21, 2014 20:09:31 GMT 1, The plot thickens .
The plot thickens .
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by .dappy on Jul 21, 2014 20:16:46 GMT 1,
... I posted this on the other BNE thread a few days ago ...
('if it moos it's a cow ... if it quacks it's a duck.')
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... it just gets better ...
instagram.com/p/qe2fWizadS/
BNE is now showing off art that he has just bought, quite an ironic print  ... and then when someone asks him tell us which charity the money went to as it has been 2 weeks now ... his reply is 'How about you have a little patience?' ... and that 'not everyone has received their orders yet' ...
and to insult to injury he finishes with THIS:
'Details will be announced...when WE are ready to do so.'
Forgive me - but how long is this 'person' (insert your own swear word) been holding on to peoples' money and thousands of $$$$ from the sale of all of the t-shirts.
(I have caps the 'we', but the guy is just taking the p!ss & he has started to use my ...)
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Brilliant ... Just Brilliant.
... I posted this on the other BNE thread a few days ago ... ('if it moos it's a cow ... if it quacks it's a duck.')
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ... it just gets better ... instagram.com/p/qe2fWizadS/ BNE is now showing off art that he has just bought, quite an ironic print ... and then when someone asks him tell us which charity the money went to as it has been 2 weeks now ... his reply is 'How about you have a little patience?' ... and that 'not everyone has received their orders yet' ... and to insult to injury he finishes with THIS: 'Details will be announced...when WE are ready to do so.' Forgive me - but how long is this 'person' (insert your own swear word) been holding on to peoples' money and thousands of $$$$ from the sale of all of the t-shirts. (I have caps the 'we', but the guy is just taking the p!ss & he has started to use my ...) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Brilliant ... Just Brilliant. |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 20:17:16 GMT 1, think you mean "the shit hardens"
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by bigp on Jul 21, 2014 20:31:39 GMT 1, Your probably right, but we will see...
Your probably right, but we will see...
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by behaviorist on Jul 21, 2014 21:20:05 GMT 1, I purchased and got refunded the moment BNE started talking about sticking it all those who asked for refunds, making them regret they'd ever done so. Just didn't sit right and I've not trusted BNE since; the facade of charity does him no favors.
That said, this is the gift that keeps giving. I've loved watching this unfold, every step of the way. Each development is like a fractal: the same story within a story within a story. I love it.
I purchased and got refunded the moment BNE started talking about sticking it all those who asked for refunds, making them regret they'd ever done so. Just didn't sit right and I've not trusted BNE since; the facade of charity does him no favors.
That said, this is the gift that keeps giving. I've loved watching this unfold, every step of the way. Each development is like a fractal: the same story within a story within a story. I love it.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by met on Jul 21, 2014 21:27:54 GMT 1, such a master in shady marketing. don't know what can flip for 6k these days that is not a signed Banksy (talking about the urban art scene of course).
There is no mastery involved; this is painting by numbers.
BNE's tactics are textbook โ tried and tested thousands of times.
Once the victim's confidence has been earned, the scammer then introduces a delay or monetary hurdle that prevents the deal from occurring as planned [...]. [T]he victim willingly transfers the money [...] and the scammer receives and pockets it. More delays and additional costs are added, always keeping the promise [...] alive, convincing the victim that the money the victim is currently paying is covered several times over by the payoff. Sometimes psychological pressure is added [...] by comparing the salary scale and living conditions in Africa to those in the West. Much of the time, however, the needed psychological pressure is self-applied; once the victims have provided money toward the payoff, they feel they have a vested interest in seeing the "deal" through.
โ Extract from the Wikipedia page for 419 scams.
such a master in shady marketing. don't know what can flip for 6k these days that is not a signed Banksy (talking about the urban art scene of course). There is no mastery involved; this is painting by numbers. BNE's tactics are textbook โ tried and tested thousands of times. Once the victim's confidence has been earned, the scammer then introduces a delay or monetary hurdle that prevents the deal from occurring as planned [...]. [T]he victim willingly transfers the money [...] and the scammer receives and pockets it. More delays and additional costs are added, always keeping the promise [...] alive, convincing the victim that the money the victim is currently paying is covered several times over by the payoff. Sometimes psychological pressure is added [...] by comparing the salary scale and living conditions in Africa to those in the West. Much of the time, however, the needed psychological pressure is self-applied; once the victims have provided money toward the payoff, they feel they have a vested interest in seeing the "deal" through. โ Extract from the Wikipedia page for 419 scams. |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by met on Jul 21, 2014 22:41:32 GMT 1, I purchased and got refunded the moment BNE started talking about sticking it all those who asked for refunds, making them regret they'd ever done so. Just didn't sit right and I've not trusted BNE since; the facade of charity does him no favors. That said, this is the gift that keeps giving. I've loved watching this unfold, every step of the way. Each development is like a fractal: the same story within a story within a story. I love it.
The story is indeed entertaining โ albeit in a depressing way, given it's at the expense of the naive, the gullible, and those who, quite admirably, tend to give strangers the benefit of the doubt. The exploitation of the charity card also does little to restore one's faith in humanity.
In following the story, I'm just relieved I can do it from some distance.
From a purely visual perspective, at least the Obey, Invader and Faile t-shirts are well designed. But unfortunately they too are forever tainted by their association with a chancer-fraudster.
I would no longer wear one of these t-shirts myself. It would equate to publicly supporting BNE and condoning his actions โ which I couldn't do without embarrassment, a feeling of moral compromise, and even (strong word) shame.
If I had purchased one of these t-shirts, I'd now be sorting out a credit card chargeback on the basis that the item received was not as described, i.e. it wasn't from a limited edition of 100. This was very clearly demonstrated by the way BNE dealt with the COAs produced by Faile.
I purchased and got refunded the moment BNE started talking about sticking it all those who asked for refunds, making them regret they'd ever done so. Just didn't sit right and I've not trusted BNE since; the facade of charity does him no favors. That said, this is the gift that keeps giving. I've loved watching this unfold, every step of the way. Each development is like a fractal: the same story within a story within a story. I love it. The story is indeed entertaining โ albeit in a depressing way, given it's at the expense of the naive, the gullible, and those who, quite admirably, tend to give strangers the benefit of the doubt. The exploitation of the charity card also does little to restore one's faith in humanity. In following the story, I'm just relieved I can do it from some distance. From a purely visual perspective, at least the Obey, Invader and Faile t-shirts are well designed. But unfortunately they too are forever tainted by their association with a chancer-fraudster. I would no longer wear one of these t-shirts myself. It would equate to publicly supporting BNE and condoning his actions โ which I couldn't do without embarrassment, a feeling of moral compromise, and even (strong word) shame. If I had purchased one of these t-shirts, I'd now be sorting out a credit card chargeback on the basis that the item received was not as described, i.e. it wasn't from a limited edition of 100. This was very clearly demonstrated by the way BNE dealt with the COAs produced by Faile. |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 22:43:20 GMT 1, Not that im really interested but Ive never seen this BNE bloke?, who is he and what does he look like?.
Not that im really interested but Ive never seen this BNE bloke?, who is he and what does he look like?.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Jul 21, 2014 22:45:08 GMT 1, Not that im really interested but Ive never seen this BNE bloke?, who is he and what does he look like?. 
Not that im really interested but Ive never seen this BNE bloke?, who is he and what does he look like?. |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Chrisp on Jul 21, 2014 23:38:26 GMT 1, I reckon all those that paid the shirt money and did not take the refund will pay the $350 and then have something like, payment for 12" dildo on their bank statement. 
I reckon all those that paid the shirt money and did not take the refund will pay the $350 and then have something like, payment for 12" dildo on their bank statement. |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by strongsauzej on Jul 22, 2014 11:45:31 GMT 1, If it's what I think it is, I'm not sure I'd pay $350 for it, but each to their own. 
the 6 should be behind at least one 0, reading $0600, if following how they did the shirts... 
If it's what I think it is, I'm not sure I'd pay $350 for it, but each to their own. the 6 should be behind at least one 0, reading $0600, if following how they did the shirts... |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by joecool91 on Jul 22, 2014 17:22:20 GMT 1, I've seen the future and the print will be plain grey and will say;
"Bansky has not made any print for a water charity"
In all seriousness though a print run of 500 worth $6k - he's clearly implying it's a banksy without saying it this time.
I've seen the future and the print will be plain grey and will say;
"Bansky has not made any print for a water charity"
In all seriousness though a print run of 500 worth $6k - he's clearly implying it's a banksy without saying it this time.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 17:44:12 GMT 1, I've seen the future and the print will be plain grey and will say; "Bansky has not made any print for a water charity" In all seriousness though a print run of 500 worth $6k - he's clearly implying it's a banksy without saying it this time.
I've seen the future and the print will be plain grey and will say; "Bansky has not made any print for a water charity" In all seriousness though a print run of 500 worth $6k - he's clearly implying it's a banksy without saying it this time. but since when has Banksy charged $6K for a print run of 500? 600 is more like it |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by A.R.T. on Jul 22, 2014 18:00:56 GMT 1, It's only $350 for those who stuck by their orders. It's 6k for those who didn't.
I've seen the future and the print will be plain grey and will say; "Bansky has not made any print for a water charity" In all seriousness though a print run of 500 worth $6k - he's clearly implying it's a banksy without saying it this time. but since when has Banksy charged $6K for a print run of 500?ย 600 is more like it
It's only $350 for those who stuck by their orders. It's 6k for those who didn't. I've seen the future and the print will be plain grey and will say; "Bansky has not made any print for a water charity" In all seriousness though a print run of 500 worth $6k - he's clearly implying it's a banksy without saying it this time. but since when has Banksy charged $6K for a print run of 500?ย 600 is more like it |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Happy Shopper on Jul 22, 2014 18:11:15 GMT 1, I've seen the future and the print will be plain grey and will say; "Bansky has not made any print for a water charity" In all seriousness though a print run of 500 worth $6k - he's clearly implying it's a banksy without saying it this time.
Exactly what he's up to... except Outis beat him to it on this scam.
We can't be fooled twice...... can we !? 
I've seen the future and the print will be plain grey and will say; "Bansky has not made any print for a water charity" In all seriousness though a print run of 500 worth $6k - he's clearly implying it's a banksy without saying it this time. Exactly what he's up to... except Outis beat him to it on this scam. We can't be fooled twice...... can we !? |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by maddoghoek100 on Jul 22, 2014 19:19:30 GMT 1, dont be ridiculous. he is in no way implying that it is a banksy. it could just as easily be a hand finished faile which would retail for 6k
i would put it at equal probability that it is a Faile print as a Banksy print 0%
In all seriousness though a print run of 500 worth $6k - he's clearly implying it's a banksy without saying it this time.
dont be ridiculous. he is in no way implying that it is a banksy. it could just as easily be a hand finished faile which would retail for 6k i would put it at equal probability that it is a Faile print as a Banksy print 0% In all seriousness though a print run of 500 worth $6k - he's clearly implying it's a banksy without saying it this time. |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Dungle on Jul 22, 2014 19:31:26 GMT 1, It's only $350 for those who stuck by their orders. It's 6k for those who didn't. but since when has Banksy charged $6K for a print run of 500? 600 is more like it
It's only $350 for those who stuck by their orders. It's 6k for those who didn't. but since when has Banksy charged $6K for a print run of 500? 600 is more like it It's not a Banksy |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 19:36:09 GMT 1, if anyone is still holding out hope - shoot Jo Brooks an email. I'm sure she'll set the record straight
if anyone is still holding out hope - shoot Jo Brooks an email. I'm sure she'll set the record straight |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 20:17:07 GMT 1, if anyone is still holding out hope - shoot Jo Brooks an email. I'm sure she'll set the record straight
if anyone is still holding out hope - shoot Jo Brooks an email. I'm sure she'll set the record straight Dont bank on that. |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Dr Plip on Jul 22, 2014 20:25:42 GMT 1, dont be ridiculous. he is in no way implying that it is a banksy. it could just as easily be a hand finished faile which would retail for 6k i would put it at equal probability that it is a Faile print as a Banksy print 0% In all seriousness though a print run of 500 worth $6k - he's clearly implying it's a banksy without saying it this time.
dont be ridiculous. he is in no way implying that it is a banksy. it could just as easily be a hand finished faile which would retail for 6k i would put it at equal probability that it is a Faile print as a Banksy print 0% In all seriousness though a print run of 500 worth $6k - he's clearly implying it's a banksy without saying it this time. I believe BNE has some exclusive Faile Scuba Horse prints lying around. |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Dr Plip on Jul 22, 2014 20:30:29 GMT 1, I may have missed it in my art history class, but was it ever revealed what BNE stands for?
I may have missed it in my art history class, but was it ever revealed what BNE stands for?
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by A.R.T. on Jul 22, 2014 20:55:40 GMT 1, Re-read my post. I never said it was Banksy. I only clarified the prices.
It's only $350 for those who stuck by their orders. It's 6k for those who didn't. It's not a Banksy
Re-read my post. I never said it was Banksy. I only clarified the prices. It's only $350 for those who stuck by their orders. It's 6k for those who didn't. It's not a Banksy |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by JAlternatiรณn on Jul 22, 2014 21:03:27 GMT 1, He has only said that those who bought The T-shirt can buy the print for $350, and everyone else will have to pay $6000 if they want it. That's called hype. Doesn't mean the print is worth $6000 at all. Just that $6k would be the asking price for him to sell to that group.
I have a poo that won't flush in my 2nd toilet. I've tried 3 times now, including a devastating amount of bog roll on the last one. Still won't flush. It's a bloody miracle, therefore my asking price is $1000, whereas it actually isn't really worth much to anyone who isn't a scientist dealing in everlasting materials.
If BNE is in this for charity, and this was a way to get Banksy's to 'real fans' at a good price and then charging $6k to non-fans, why wouldn't he charge $1k for a Banksy print? Everyone would still think it was a steal, and the charity would get loads more money.
Anyway, good luck to you, and if anyone wants my poo, PM me.
He has only said that those who bought The T-shirt can buy the print for $350, and everyone else will have to pay $6000 if they want it. That's called hype. Doesn't mean the print is worth $6000 at all. Just that $6k would be the asking price for him to sell to that group.
I have a poo that won't flush in my 2nd toilet. I've tried 3 times now, including a devastating amount of bog roll on the last one. Still won't flush. It's a bloody miracle, therefore my asking price is $1000, whereas it actually isn't really worth much to anyone who isn't a scientist dealing in everlasting materials.
If BNE is in this for charity, and this was a way to get Banksy's to 'real fans' at a good price and then charging $6k to non-fans, why wouldn't he charge $1k for a Banksy print? Everyone would still think it was a steal, and the charity would get loads more money.
Anyway, good luck to you, and if anyone wants my poo, PM me.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 21:20:16 GMT 1, This was entertaining at first; now it's honestly a problem.
He's likely scamming more people to pay for his legal bills; notice how this one has less mention of charity (i.e. no explicit percent of sales, or specific charity noted).
This was entertaining at first; now it's honestly a problem.
He's likely scamming more people to pay for his legal bills; notice how this one has less mention of charity (i.e. no explicit percent of sales, or specific charity noted).
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by randomname on Jul 22, 2014 22:30:26 GMT 1, For anyone who lost money on the "Bansky" shirt, here's the FBI contact form for internet scams. If enough people report it, he'll likely be investigated. If not, he'll just keep right on going.
complaint.ic3.gov/default.aspx?
For anyone who lost money on the "Bansky" shirt, here's the FBI contact form for internet scams. If enough people report it, he'll likely be investigated. If not, he'll just keep right on going. complaint.ic3.gov/default.aspx? |
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by coa on Jul 23, 2014 1:53:21 GMT 1, He just put a message on his latest IG post: #banksy
I guess that's disclosure.
He just put a message on his latest IG post: #banksy
I guess that's disclosure.
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BNE ๐บ๐ธ BNE Was Here โข Stickers โข Street Art, by Deleted on Jul 23, 2014 3:29:16 GMT 1, I may have missed it in my art history class, but was it ever revealed what BNE stands for?
I may have missed it in my art history class, but was it ever revealed what BNE stands for? Short for BENET. He used to do massive rollers in SF, probably easier to roll three letters. |
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... and then when someone asks him tell us which charity the money went to as it has been 2 weeks now ... his reply is 'How about you have a little patience?' ... and that 'not everyone has received their orders yet' ...
