kfroms
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by kfroms on Oct 3, 2014 19:40:57 GMT 1, Print just arrived - looks fantastic!! if you're framing, please post pics. would love to see what others are doing with theirs. i'm thinking something very, very simple is the way to go
Print just arrived - looks fantastic!! if you're framing, please post pics. would love to see what others are doing with theirs. i'm thinking something very, very simple is the way to go Will do - this is most likely going to be a simple black ( or white?) box with non reflective glass, similar to what HD posted. |
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by BrotherBern on Oct 3, 2014 21:27:57 GMT 1, I took it out of the tube and within a hour in was lovely and flat with only gravity to assist. Lovely quality print.
I took it out of the tube and within a hour in was lovely and flat with only gravity to assist. Lovely quality print.
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by behaviorist on Oct 3, 2014 22:23:42 GMT 1, Glad you like the print as much as we do! Thanks for asking about framing. We agree, simple is the way to go and here's how we've framed ours. We think the grey works really well to show off the striking colours. Tell us what you think? 
Glad you like the print as much as we do! Thanks for asking about framing. We agree, simple is the way to go and here's how we've framed ours. We think the grey works really well to show off the striking colours. Tell us what you think? is that museum glass? |
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bone
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by bone on Oct 3, 2014 22:27:06 GMT 1, If anyone is having regrets about purchasing this print and wants their money back, PM me.
If anyone is having regrets about purchasing this print and wants their money back, PM me.
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by skynet on Oct 4, 2014 17:28:52 GMT 1, Anxiously awaiting for mine to arrive. Thanks for all the framing advice...please keep the pics coming. Think I will also go with the dark grey frame, really brings out the dark outlines.
Anxiously awaiting for mine to arrive. Thanks for all the framing advice...please keep the pics coming. Think I will also go with the dark grey frame, really brings out the dark outlines.
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 18:02:39 GMT 1, Anyone able to enlighten me as to what this means please: 'Pigment print with silkscreen layering'
Anyone able to enlighten me as to what this means please: 'Pigment print with silkscreen layering'
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bone
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by bone on Oct 4, 2014 18:06:18 GMT 1, Anyone able to enlighten me as to what this means please: 'Pigment print with silkscreen layering'
Anyone able to enlighten me as to what this means please: 'Pigment print with silkscreen layering' giclee |
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by Deleted on Oct 4, 2014 18:07:54 GMT 1, Anyone able to enlighten me as to what this means please: 'Pigment print with silkscreen layering' giclee
Anyone able to enlighten me as to what this means please: 'Pigment print with silkscreen layering' giclee Cheers, I kind of got that from the 'pigment print', just don't know what 'silkscreen layering' would be in relation to this piece?? |
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Argiebaji
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by behaviorist on Feb 14, 2015 23:53:08 GMT 1, anyone on here get theirs framed up, so i can see what they've done?
anyone on here get theirs framed up, so i can see what they've done?
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by equis on Feb 15, 2015 17:34:31 GMT 1, Poor pict sorry .
My choice was a black frame .
Poor pict sorry . My choice was a black frame . |
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by iamzero on Feb 15, 2015 17:56:37 GMT 1, I've just seen this in Pure Evil gallery. Looks really clean and the colours are striking.
I've just seen this in Pure Evil gallery. Looks really clean and the colours are striking.
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by behaviorist on Feb 15, 2015 19:58:58 GMT 1, nice! really pops. i'll post pics when i've got mine. the framer suggested float mounted in a shadow box. should be interesting.
nice! really pops. i'll post pics when i've got mine. the framer suggested float mounted in a shadow box. should be interesting.
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HD Limited
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by HD Limited on Feb 16, 2015 11:24:15 GMT 1, Thanks for all the positive feedback on the first Pro176 edition. We are currently working with him on a couple of exciting new projects and the next edition. We have a couple of Astral Wave artist proofs. If you missed out on the release please send me a PM and I'll let you have details.
Thanks for all the positive feedback on the first Pro176 edition. We are currently working with him on a couple of exciting new projects and the next edition. We have a couple of Astral Wave artist proofs. If you missed out on the release please send me a PM and I'll let you have details.
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by Liverpool ste123 on Feb 16, 2015 22:00:55 GMT 1, Thanks for all the positive feedback on the first Pro176 edition. We are currently working with him on a couple of exciting new projects and the next edition. We have a couple of Astral Wave artist proofs. If you missed out on the release please send me a PM and I'll let you have details. Have PM'd you...
Please reply with purchase details 
Thanks for all the positive feedback on the first Pro176 edition. We are currently working with him on a couple of exciting new projects and the next edition. We have a couple of Astral Wave artist proofs. If you missed out on the release please send me a PM and I'll let you have details. Have PM'd you...
Please reply with purchase details
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HD Limited
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by HD Limited on Feb 16, 2015 22:20:49 GMT 1, Thanks for all enquiries. All PMs have now been replied to with purchase details.
Thanks for all enquiries. All PMs have now been replied to with purchase details.
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by Jersey Phresh on Mar 23, 2015 16:38:39 GMT 1, Pro176 has straight up copied from Mykola Haleta.. I own works from Mykola and recognized the comic bits immediately. Pro176 stole images of Mykola's collage work and used a computer to distort the work into appearing wavy. Astral Waves was not Pro176's work at all.. Lost all respect for Pro176..
Pro176 has straight up copied from Mykola Haleta.. I own works from Mykola and recognized the comic bits immediately. Pro176 stole images of Mykola's collage work and used a computer to distort the work into appearing wavy. Astral Waves was not Pro176's work at all.. Lost all respect for Pro176..
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by BrotherBern on Mar 23, 2015 17:24:11 GMT 1, Pro176 has straight up copied from Mykola Haleta.. I own works from Mykola and recognized the comic bits immediately. Pro176 stole images of Mykola's collage work and used a computer to distort the work into appearing wavy. Astral Waves was not Pro176's work at all.. Lost all respect for Pro176..
Can you post a link to the piece copied please?
Pro176 has straight up copied from Mykola Haleta.. I own works from Mykola and recognized the comic bits immediately. Pro176 stole images of Mykola's collage work and used a computer to distort the work into appearing wavy. Astral Waves was not Pro176's work at all.. Lost all respect for Pro176.. Hi Can you post a link to the piece copied please? |
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by behaviorist on Mar 23, 2015 17:25:29 GMT 1, Pro176 has straight up copied from Mykola Haleta.. I own works from Mykola and recognized the comic bits immediately. Pro176 stole images of Mykola's collage work and used a computer to distort the work into appearing wavy. Astral Waves was not Pro176's work at all.. Lost all respect for Pro176..
Pro176 has straight up copied from Mykola Haleta.. I own works from Mykola and recognized the comic bits immediately. Pro176 stole images of Mykola's collage work and used a computer to distort the work into appearing wavy. Astral Waves was not Pro176's work at all.. Lost all respect for Pro176.. post pics? |
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by Happy Shopper on Mar 23, 2015 17:31:33 GMT 1, Well, you can see how that might work in theory. They do look similar, just without the waves... but I can't find a specific one that's copied exactly:
Well, you can see how that might work in theory. They do look similar, just without the waves... but I can't find a specific one that's copied exactly: |
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by Jersey Phresh on Mar 23, 2015 17:38:57 GMT 1, Mykola's work was manipulated and used as work done by Pro176, for profit and without credit. I'm working on side by side.. Obviously no interest in calling out a French artist without just cause. This is Mykola Haletas work without question..
Mykola's work was manipulated and used as work done by Pro176, for profit and without credit. I'm working on side by side.. Obviously no interest in calling out a French artist without just cause. This is Mykola Haletas work without question..
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by Jersey Phresh on Mar 23, 2015 17:56:48 GMT 1, I've been on this forum almost a decade and still don't know how to post pics!! I have at least 2 examples of direct copying.. Could I email the pics to a kind soul to post on this thread?
I've been on this forum almost a decade and still don't know how to post pics!! I have at least 2 examples of direct copying.. Could I email the pics to a kind soul to post on this thread?
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by Jersey Phresh on Mar 23, 2015 18:23:10 GMT 1, 
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by Jersey Phresh on Mar 23, 2015 18:24:52 GMT 1, 
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by DameHoracia on Mar 23, 2015 18:34:24 GMT 1, Minus internet, I'm pretty sure that many would just get away with their plans to 'recreate' other peoples work and think it will never be found out. It's a shame, but am I glad I didn't spend money on one of his originals a while back.
Minus internet, I'm pretty sure that many would just get away with their plans to 'recreate' other peoples work and think it will never be found out. It's a shame, but am I glad I didn't spend money on one of his originals a while back.
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by Mirus Gallery Poesia on Mar 24, 2015 0:44:37 GMT 1, Wow this has been Drama the last 24 hrs. Here was my response to Michael after an almost 30 min conversation with him on FB.
"Again to summarize our long conversation. The work you collaged does not belong to you, the inking, the color palette, the coloring in of the ink, the overall aesthetic none of it belonged to you. You appropriated it into a collage. So it is ironic that you are fighting over imagery that belongs to another artist. Your collage was cut and pasted into a composition. That was the extent of your contribution. Even if it took you 1000 hours to cut and your hands were bleeding you did not draw or color any of the original artwork. So when you accuse another artist of stealing something you took its ironic. If an artist googled comic art and yours came up and he used it as reference that artist was still sampling the original work if they changed or manipulated the work in any way. The same way you manipulated it when you took it. This is art and people use other art to create new art, its nothing new and nothing so outrageous. If your work was unique or orginal then I could understand possibly, but your work is collage of another real artists work who drew them then another artist came along and hand painted the work. Its a Ironic circle and your claim to fame is that someone actually saw your work and used it as reference, without ever referencing the original artist you took from. As stated in this long conversation over and over again"
Wow this has been Drama the last 24 hrs. Here was my response to Michael after an almost 30 min conversation with him on FB.
"Again to summarize our long conversation. The work you collaged does not belong to you, the inking, the color palette, the coloring in of the ink, the overall aesthetic none of it belonged to you. You appropriated it into a collage. So it is ironic that you are fighting over imagery that belongs to another artist. Your collage was cut and pasted into a composition. That was the extent of your contribution. Even if it took you 1000 hours to cut and your hands were bleeding you did not draw or color any of the original artwork. So when you accuse another artist of stealing something you took its ironic. If an artist googled comic art and yours came up and he used it as reference that artist was still sampling the original work if they changed or manipulated the work in any way. The same way you manipulated it when you took it. This is art and people use other art to create new art, its nothing new and nothing so outrageous. If your work was unique or orginal then I could understand possibly, but your work is collage of another real artists work who drew them then another artist came along and hand painted the work. Its a Ironic circle and your claim to fame is that someone actually saw your work and used it as reference, without ever referencing the original artist you took from. As stated in this long conversation over and over again"
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by Mirus Gallery Poesia on Mar 24, 2015 0:56:11 GMT 1, I had a bitter tone as you can see because this artist was acting aggressively, insulting me and generally not listening to reason or open to debate. Pro also understands the dilemna, but if you are familiar with Pro's work or have his book you can see Pro has a real progression of the imagery in his work, it was not all stolen from this one artist who unfortunately he did use as reference to a handful of paintings as he googled images and the artists work came up. he has googled and referenced tons of other work from comics so its an honest mistake, it in no way dictates that either artist owns the original aesthetic or work. Michael is upset because someone if currently relevant and thinks Pro's success is solely based on his work which if he did research is absurd. Pro had utilized this aesthetic in paintings before and after he referenced a set of paintings from Michael.
I do see why he is upset, but I do think that its ironic as he is using collage of another artists work that he would take ownership of the aesthetic all together, anyone that has seen pro's pieces in person can see that they are above and beyond great paintings. They are hand painted meticulously with vibrant amazing color as he has enhanced the original images and created something fresh. Michael has cut and pasted without adding much of his own hand to the pieces which is ok, collage is cool but I think I prefer some of the artists hand in appropriated work. Pro has since moved onto to other reference material as this was only a series of paintings, and Its a mute point really. Michael used an analog way of deconstruction with collage, Pro used a digital way of deconstruction utilizing photoshop and recreating the work with painting. Both are the same concept but both appropriating another artists aesthetic.
I had a bitter tone as you can see because this artist was acting aggressively, insulting me and generally not listening to reason or open to debate. Pro also understands the dilemna, but if you are familiar with Pro's work or have his book you can see Pro has a real progression of the imagery in his work, it was not all stolen from this one artist who unfortunately he did use as reference to a handful of paintings as he googled images and the artists work came up. he has googled and referenced tons of other work from comics so its an honest mistake, it in no way dictates that either artist owns the original aesthetic or work. Michael is upset because someone if currently relevant and thinks Pro's success is solely based on his work which if he did research is absurd. Pro had utilized this aesthetic in paintings before and after he referenced a set of paintings from Michael.
I do see why he is upset, but I do think that its ironic as he is using collage of another artists work that he would take ownership of the aesthetic all together, anyone that has seen pro's pieces in person can see that they are above and beyond great paintings. They are hand painted meticulously with vibrant amazing color as he has enhanced the original images and created something fresh. Michael has cut and pasted without adding much of his own hand to the pieces which is ok, collage is cool but I think I prefer some of the artists hand in appropriated work. Pro has since moved onto to other reference material as this was only a series of paintings, and Its a mute point really. Michael used an analog way of deconstruction with collage, Pro used a digital way of deconstruction utilizing photoshop and recreating the work with painting. Both are the same concept but both appropriating another artists aesthetic.
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WOOF
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by WOOF on Mar 24, 2015 1:22:41 GMT 1, I don't really have time to respond right now, but I've gotta say, I couldn't agree less with your argument. There's a massive difference between spending the time to collage an image from images that were never meant to be put together, and taking that finalized image and warping it in photoshop. Massive.
I don't really have time to respond right now, but I've gotta say, I couldn't agree less with your argument. There's a massive difference between spending the time to collage an image from images that were never meant to be put together, and taking that finalized image and warping it in photoshop. Massive.
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by Jersey Phresh on Mar 24, 2015 3:42:47 GMT 1, Pro176 used image after image taken directly from Michael Mykola Haleta's website of archived collages that were completed 2001-2015..
futuristictexturesfromthefuture.blogspot.com/?m=1
This was not a case of one time appropriation of a stumbled across image on found on Google. This is more like artistic identity theft. Image after image stolen, photoshopped, twisted, price tag.. Passed on by Pro176 as his own work which was offered for sale on this forum..
I have collected originals from Michael for years and almost spit coffee through my nose when I saw a picture of Pro176 standing in front of a blown up twisty version of Haleta's work.
At least Pro176 has admitted his lifting of Michael's collage work to his gallerist and said he would stop offering Haleta's work for sale. Thank you for a sensible conversation Poesia..
Pro176 used image after image taken directly from Michael Mykola Haleta's website of archived collages that were completed 2001-2015.. futuristictexturesfromthefuture.blogspot.com/?m=1This was not a case of one time appropriation of a stumbled across image on found on Google. This is more like artistic identity theft. Image after image stolen, photoshopped, twisted, price tag.. Passed on by Pro176 as his own work which was offered for sale on this forum.. I have collected originals from Michael for years and almost spit coffee through my nose when I saw a picture of Pro176 standing in front of a blown up twisty version of Haleta's work. At least Pro176 has admitted his lifting of Michael's collage work to his gallerist and said he would stop offering Haleta's work for sale. Thank you for a sensible conversation Poesia.. |
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PRO176 "Astral Wave" New Print, by thriftypix on Mar 24, 2015 4:17:47 GMT 1, I don't really have time to respond right now, but I've gotta say, I couldn't agree less with your argument. There's a massive difference between spending the time to collage an image from images that were never meant to be put together, and taking that finalized image and warping it in photoshop. Massive.
I don't really have time to respond right now, but I've gotta say, I couldn't agree less with your argument. There's a massive difference between spending the time to collage an image from images that were never meant to be put together, and taking that finalized image and warping it in photoshop. Massive. Agreed. It's night and day, black and white, no doubt about it. I can only imagine how angry and exploited Mykola Haleta must feel. This whole story is bizarre and disturbing. |
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