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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by dashboll on Dec 18, 2014 21:51:37 GMT 1,
wish he'd go and "win the war" on the shit art you see in some public galleries instead
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Deleted on Dec 18, 2014 23:34:59 GMT 1, I would have wound him up if I was there.
He seems to be trying to rope graffiti artists in with vandals and yobs who break wing mirrors off cars etc.
Also there is no chance him ever catching or prosecuting Banksy as no property owner will make a complaint against Banksy or any other half decent street art I hope for that matter.
He seems corporate too in that he is working for the railway companies etc which is fair enough.
He also says basically if any graffiti artist wants to get caught that he has access to their emails and probably gets info from people who know the artist.
Sweeney tactics 
I bet he reads this forum too.
I would have wound him up if I was there.
He seems to be trying to rope graffiti artists in with vandals and yobs who break wing mirrors off cars etc.
Also there is no chance him ever catching or prosecuting Banksy as no property owner will make a complaint against Banksy or any other half decent street art I hope for that matter.
He seems corporate too in that he is working for the railway companies etc which is fair enough.
He also says basically if any graffiti artist wants to get caught that he has access to their emails and probably gets info from people who know the artist.
Sweeney tactics
I bet he reads this forum too.
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by flaggy on Dec 19, 2014 0:35:14 GMT 1, That b****rd was the one who knicked me many years ago!
That b****rd was the one who knicked me many years ago!
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by balibob on Dec 19, 2014 11:08:34 GMT 1, I haven't got a problem with the police targeting those individuals who just like to see their name or tag on as many buildings as possible, but I would hate to think that those artists who are producing absolutely stunning art on buildings around the country are getting actively pursued. Probably the wrong place to air my views on taggers, so please fire away if you feel the need.
I haven't got a problem with the police targeting those individuals who just like to see their name or tag on as many buildings as possible, but I would hate to think that those artists who are producing absolutely stunning art on buildings around the country are getting actively pursued. Probably the wrong place to air my views on taggers, so please fire away if you feel the need.
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 12:31:00 GMT 1, I like his eyes, and such a caring face.
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Sturban Has Saggy Tits on Dec 19, 2014 12:53:13 GMT 1, I like his eyes, and such a caring face. 
If I was Banksy, I would cheer him up by going round his house and painting a lovely mural on the outside of his house 
I like his eyes, and such a caring face. What a grumpy looking b*stard If I was Banksy, I would cheer him up by going round his house and painting a lovely mural on the outside of his house |
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by blackdogprints on Dec 19, 2014 12:54:26 GMT 1, spray cans ready we can't be stopped
spray cans ready we can't be stopped
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Bill Hicks on Dec 19, 2014 12:56:31 GMT 1, "This is the reason bald-headed men are uptight" Yes it is a wig!
"This is the reason bald-headed men are uptight" Yes it is a wig!
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 13:08:50 GMT 1, 
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by porkus on Dec 19, 2014 13:31:32 GMT 1, Best quote I found in the replies "mikewr :
Well done constable. The fear of graffiti artists often keeps me awake at night. I know I can sleep soundly knowing you are on the case."
Best quote I found in the replies "mikewr : Well done constable. The fear of graffiti artists often keeps me awake at night. I know I can sleep soundly knowing you are on the case." |
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by met on Dec 19, 2014 21:43:12 GMT 1,
Differences of opinion aside, I have great admiration for people like Colin Saysell. They may be the enemy, but they believe in something and have the courage to stand by their convictions — including in largely hostile environments like the Graffiti Sessions event earlier this month. They do their jobs well, with passion (if not obsession), diligence and dogged determination.
Saysell comes across as the type of character Tommy Lee Jones might play. I suspect his mindset is not that dissimilar to many of the writers he relentlessly pursues.
The same may be the case with Fred Radtke (a.k.a. the Grey Ghost) in New Orleans and Joe Connolly (a.k.a. the Graffiti Guerrilla) in Los Angeles. A good reminder to re-watch Vigilante Vigilante.
And where would graffiti be without worthy adversaries? Where would the real fun be? Those who argue it's just a form of creative expression are either a bit clueless or disingenuous.
Differences of opinion aside, I have great admiration for people like Colin Saysell. They may be the enemy, but they believe in something and have the courage to stand by their convictions — including in largely hostile environments like the Graffiti Sessions event earlier this month. They do their jobs well, with passion (if not obsession), diligence and dogged determination. Saysell comes across as the type of character Tommy Lee Jones might play. I suspect his mindset is not that dissimilar to many of the writers he relentlessly pursues. The same may be the case with Fred Radtke (a.k.a. the Grey Ghost) in New Orleans and Joe Connolly (a.k.a. the Graffiti Guerrilla) in Los Angeles. A good reminder to re-watch Vigilante Vigilante. And where would graffiti be without worthy adversaries? Where would the real fun be? Those who argue it's just a form of creative expression are either a bit clueless or disingenuous. |
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Feral Things on Dec 19, 2014 23:17:51 GMT 1, I haven't got a problem with the police targeting those individuals who just like to see their name or tag on as many buildings as possible, but I would hate to think that those artists who are producing absolutely stunning art on buildings around the country are getting actively pursued. Probably the wrong place to air my views on taggers, so please fire away if you feel the need.
Also, the vast majority of the street artists now painting large scale murals on buildings will have started out tagging and many still do tag. So if the police are actively pursuing people for tagging, by default, they will be pursuing many of the people who paint murals. Personally, I love a tag that's got style but I appreciate I'm probably in the minority here. How can you not love those C'est Bon or Grease tags?
I haven't got a problem with the police targeting those individuals who just like to see their name or tag on as many buildings as possible, but I would hate to think that those artists who are producing absolutely stunning art on buildings around the country are getting actively pursued. Probably the wrong place to air my views on taggers, so please fire away if you feel the need. I hope this just comes across as another perspective; I definitely don't mean it to sound like I'm firing into anyone. I think it's important to remember that street art was born out of graffiti and that the foundation of graffiti is tagging. Without the likes of Cornbread and Taki 183 tagging Philadelphia and New York we probably wouldn't have Os Gemeos and Etam Cru painting beautiful buildings now. Also, the vast majority of the street artists now painting large scale murals on buildings will have started out tagging and many still do tag. So if the police are actively pursuing people for tagging, by default, they will be pursuing many of the people who paint murals. Personally, I love a tag that's got style but I appreciate I'm probably in the minority here. How can you not love those C'est Bon or Grease tags? |
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Pipes on Dec 20, 2014 4:04:58 GMT 1, I think it's important to remember that street art was born out of graffiti and that the foundation of graffiti is tagging.
I think it's important to remember that street art was born out of graffiti and that the foundation of graffiti is tagging. Nail. On. Head. |
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Pipes on Dec 20, 2014 4:12:22 GMT 1, Differences of opinion aside, I have great admiration for people like Colin Saysell. They may be the enemy, but they believe in something and have the courage to stand by their convictions — including in largely hostile environments like the Graffiti Sessions event earlier this month. They do their jobs well, with passion (if not obsession), diligence and dogged determination. Saysell comes across as the type of character Tommy Lee Jones might play. I suspect his mindset is not that dissimilar to many of the writers he relentlessly pursues. The same may be the case with Fred Radtke (a.k.a. the Grey Ghost) in New Orleans and Joe Connolly (a.k.a. the Graffiti Guerrilla) in Los Angeles. A good reminder to re-watch Vigilante Vigilante. And where would graffiti be without worthy adversaries? Where would the real fun be? Those who argue it's just a form of creative expression are either a bit clueless or disingenuous.
What?
Not just admiration, "great admiration"
Because he stands by his convictions? I'm sure there are many people on this planet do that who equally deserve your undying admiration. Maybe Ai Weiwei, Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning..etc...
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Colin Saysell
Differences of opinion aside, I have great admiration for people like Colin Saysell. They may be the enemy, but they believe in something and have the courage to stand by their convictions — including in largely hostile environments like the Graffiti Sessions event earlier this month. They do their jobs well, with passion (if not obsession), diligence and dogged determination. Saysell comes across as the type of character Tommy Lee Jones might play. I suspect his mindset is not that dissimilar to many of the writers he relentlessly pursues. The same may be the case with Fred Radtke (a.k.a. the Grey Ghost) in New Orleans and Joe Connolly (a.k.a. the Graffiti Guerrilla) in Los Angeles. A good reminder to re-watch Vigilante Vigilante. And where would graffiti be without worthy adversaries? Where would the real fun be? Those who argue it's just a form of creative expression are either a bit clueless or disingenuous. What? Not just admiration, " great admiration" Because he stands by his convictions? I'm sure there are many people on this planet do that who equally deserve your undying admiration. Maybe Ai Weiwei, Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning..etc... or Colin Saysell |
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by dashboll on Dec 20, 2014 9:08:20 GMT 1, If the world lived in peace and harmony with no injustice then there would be no police but also nothing to stand up to or against, no need for graffiti, no need for a channel to vent against the system, which I'm guessing would mean no tagging and no street art. The world needs to be a bit fucked up for it to work and to see creativity that would not otherwise be expressed, all walking round like robots
If the world lived in peace and harmony with no injustice then there would be no police but also nothing to stand up to or against, no need for graffiti, no need for a channel to vent against the system, which I'm guessing would mean no tagging and no street art. The world needs to be a bit fucked up for it to work and to see creativity that would not otherwise be expressed, all walking round like robots
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by dashboll on Dec 20, 2014 9:10:34 GMT 1, ....that's what frustates my about some (but not all) traditional art in some galleries, they tend to depict events or bits of history rather than having a message that you have to stop and think about, the world is turning into a free street art gallery with something for everyone
....that's what frustates my about some (but not all) traditional art in some galleries, they tend to depict events or bits of history rather than having a message that you have to stop and think about, the world is turning into a free street art gallery with something for everyone
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 10:14:54 GMT 1, ....that's what frustates my about some (but not all) traditional art in some galleries, they tend to depict events or bits of history rather than having a message that you have to stop and think about, the world is turning into a free street art gallery with something for everyone 
....that's what frustates my about some (but not all) traditional art in some galleries, they tend to depict events or bits of history rather than having a message that you have to stop and think about, the world is turning into a free street art gallery with something for everyone Its a matter of taste, if everybody liked the same thing it wouldnt be very interesting, if i hung only works i like i'd be out of business pretty quick, I agree there is a lot of dreary traditional art and commercially produced pretty landscape pictures etc, i dealt in traditional and contemporary art for 10 years before Urban art (still do)and in my opinion the urban art world isnt much different, theres just as much mundane art sold in this market, again its subjective, what i like the next person could hate, more interesting that way |
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 13:49:09 GMT 1, Without bad there would be no good, and that would be bad.
Keeps both parties on their toes.
Without bad there would be no good, and that would be bad.
Keeps both parties on their toes.
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 16:14:02 GMT 1, Saysell will probably write a book about his 30 years hunting down and catching notorious and imaginary graffiti artists and then do the lecture circuits in his Savile Row suit and Roger Moore.
I bet he's a fan of Minder too.
Saysell will probably write a book about his 30 years hunting down and catching notorious and imaginary graffiti artists and then do the lecture circuits in his Savile Row suit and Roger Moore.
I bet he's a fan of Minder too.
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Deleted on Dec 20, 2014 16:33:41 GMT 1, Saysell needs to show proof of any outstanding crimes committed by Banksy.
Or it looks like he is using Banksy to promote himself.
As for graffiti being a Gateway to criminality, some would say joining the met can be a Gateway to criminality too.
In other words it's bollocks and I doubt saysell or his buddies would be remotely interested in investigating if someones car got keyed or even if they were burgled or had their car stolen.
Saysell needs to show proof of any outstanding crimes committed by Banksy.
Or it looks like he is using Banksy to promote himself.
As for graffiti being a Gateway to criminality, some would say joining the met can be a Gateway to criminality too.
In other words it's bollocks and I doubt saysell or his buddies would be remotely interested in investigating if someones car got keyed or even if they were burgled or had their car stolen.
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by overend on Dec 25, 2014 20:38:07 GMT 1, He never found who Lenny was did he? Not as smart as he likes to think he is.
It must grate having posters advertising Bristol street art on his stations.
He never found who Lenny was did he? Not as smart as he likes to think he is.
It must grate having posters advertising Bristol street art on his stations.
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 21:55:31 GMT 1, One of the only art forms where your training, lessons, mistakes and triumphs are all in the public eye. 2% of those shitty taggers will be awesome one day.
One of the only art forms where your training, lessons, mistakes and triumphs are all in the public eye. 2% of those shitty taggers will be awesome one day.
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Winter on Jan 4, 2015 22:20:40 GMT 1, I think the way to really raise his profile would be to go after Bambi. That said, there would be a danger that it might backfire and give Bambi some undeserved credibility
I think the way to really raise his profile would be to go after Bambi. That said, there would be a danger that it might backfire and give Bambi some undeserved credibility
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 14:28:06 GMT 1, Have any graffiti artists or taggers sprayed or tagged their own property?
Would they be annoyed if someone tagged their house or cardboard box?
Have any graffiti artists or taggers sprayed or tagged their own property?
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 15:45:02 GMT 1, Have any graffiti artists or taggers sprayed or tagged their own property?
Would they be annoyed if someone tagged their house or cardboard box?
You're against illegal graffiti? Is that your stance?
Have any graffiti artists or taggers sprayed or tagged their own property?
Would they be annoyed if someone tagged their house or cardboard box? Id say yes. Their bedrooms, and apts are fully vandalized inside and out. You're against illegal graffiti? Is that your stance? |
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by t3c on Jan 5, 2015 15:53:19 GMT 1, I like his eyes, and such a caring face.
I like his eyes, and such a caring face. He looks like a bulldog licking piss off a stinging nettle |
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 22:21:14 GMT 1, Have any graffiti artists or taggers sprayed or tagged their own property?
Would they be annoyed if someone tagged their house or cardboard box? Id say yes. Their bedrooms, and apts are fully vandalized inside and out. You're against illegal graffiti? Is that your stance?
i'm not at all against illegal graffiti at all.
It's a good thing in some places and I don't find it any more offensive than someone smoking a cigarette upwind and good for protest and making a statement whether artistic political or closing down sale.
I don't think people should go to prison for it and if a property owner or an authority is against it.
Surely it's better if anyone is done for it for the judge to order they clean the graffiti off themselves instead of sending them to prison.
I was just wondering though if some taggers would be offended if someone tagged their property or car etc?
Have any graffiti artists or taggers sprayed or tagged their own property?
Would they be annoyed if someone tagged their house or cardboard box? Id say yes. Their bedrooms, and apts are fully vandalized inside and out. You're against illegal graffiti? Is that your stance?
i'm not at all against illegal graffiti at all.
It's a good thing in some places and I don't find it any more offensive than someone smoking a cigarette upwind and good for protest and making a statement whether artistic political or closing down sale.
I don't think people should go to prison for it and if a property owner or an authority is against it.
Surely it's better if anyone is done for it for the judge to order they clean the graffiti off themselves instead of sending them to prison.
I was just wondering though if some taggers would be offended if someone tagged their property or car etc?
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 22:29:44 GMT 1, Yeah I see. of course they would, but there are also unwritten rules. You dont tag cars, or personal property. You tag city property and especially advertisers properties. Of course some young scumbags break these rules, but for the most part theyre followed. Otherwise youd see LOTS of messed up cars, etc...
Yeah I see. of course they would, but there are also unwritten rules. You dont tag cars, or personal property. You tag city property and especially advertisers properties. Of course some young scumbags break these rules, but for the most part theyre followed. Otherwise youd see LOTS of messed up cars, etc...
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No regrets for police officer who wants to whitewash Banksy, by Deleted on Jan 6, 2015 22:53:04 GMT 1, Yeah I see. of course they would, but there are also unwritten rules. You dont tag cars, or personal property. You tag city property and especially advertisers properties. Of course some young scumbags break these rules, but for the most part theyre followed. Otherwise youd see LOTS of messed up cars, etc... we get lots of messed up cars down here,
the usual stuff cars set on fire, winscreens and windows smashed and tyres slashed over the new year
but not one tag sprayed on any cars so that is positive
Yeah I see. of course they would, but there are also unwritten rules. You dont tag cars, or personal property. You tag city property and especially advertisers properties. Of course some young scumbags break these rules, but for the most part theyre followed. Otherwise youd see LOTS of messed up cars, etc... we get lots of messed up cars down here,
the usual stuff cars set on fire, winscreens and windows smashed and tyres slashed over the new year
but not one tag sprayed on any cars so that is positive
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