Pattycakes
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pattycakes on Jun 27, 2017 20:35:44 GMT 1, No Phillips are always on point when it comes to sending out catalogues, that said I felt their recent sale was a little lacklustre to be honest, compared to the barnstormer they had in January.
Bonham's have I think been massively cutting costs and usually first to go are the catalogues, which is bloody stupid when they are possibly the most useful marketing tool an auction house has.
No Phillips are always on point when it comes to sending out catalogues, that said I felt their recent sale was a little lacklustre to be honest, compared to the barnstormer they had in January.
Bonham's have I think been massively cutting costs and usually first to go are the catalogues, which is bloody stupid when they are possibly the most useful marketing tool an auction house has.
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Eton Groover
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Eton Groover on Jun 27, 2017 20:59:27 GMT 1, Really very disappointing results but then Bonham's print sale really isn't the place to put up post-war or Banksy prints anyway so I'm not exactly surprised. They did 0 marketing for the sale, and I know of a number of very serious dealers who didn't even receive a catalogue for the sale.
Really? Poor excuse for soft results. I wouldn't consider myself to be a serious buyer but it doesn't take a lot to sign up to Bonhams mailing list, checking sources for when auctions are on, etc. Serious dealers really shouldn't need Bonhams to tell them there's a sale coming up. It's their business to know!
Really very disappointing results but then Bonham's print sale really isn't the place to put up post-war or Banksy prints anyway so I'm not exactly surprised. They did 0 marketing for the sale, and I know of a number of very serious dealers who didn't even receive a catalogue for the sale. Really? Poor excuse for soft results. I wouldn't consider myself to be a serious buyer but it doesn't take a lot to sign up to Bonhams mailing list, checking sources for when auctions are on, etc. Serious dealers really shouldn't need Bonhams to tell them there's a sale coming up. It's their business to know!
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rosac
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by rosac on Jun 27, 2017 21:36:00 GMT 1, I don't know how to add pics but you can see it on the catalog
This is what 65k gets you. worst condition GWRB ive ever seen
I don't know how to add pics but you can see it on the catalog This is what 65k gets you. worst condition GWRB ive ever seen
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 21:40:50 GMT 1, I wouldn't even pay 20k for that ..... and that's in Thai baht !! Someone's had a shocker there....
I wouldn't even pay 20k for that ..... and that's in Thai baht !! Someone's had a shocker there....
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Unica
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Unica on Jun 27, 2017 21:49:12 GMT 1, I don't know how to add pics but you can see it on the catalog This is what 65k gets you. worst condition GWRB ive ever seen Can an art restorer fix that up?
I don't know how to add pics but you can see it on the catalog This is what 65k gets you. worst condition GWRB ive ever seen Can an art restorer fix that up?
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Hubble Bubble
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Hubble Bubble on Jun 27, 2017 21:52:28 GMT 1, Can't fix the UV damage.
The ripples don't look right (curved) and appear on the backing board so I don't think they're on the print. Probably a photo resolution issue.
Can't fix the UV damage.
The ripples don't look right (curved) and appear on the backing board so I don't think they're on the print. Probably a photo resolution issue.
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rosac
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by rosac on Jun 27, 2017 21:56:25 GMT 1, Can't fix the UV damage. The ripples don't look right (curved) and appear on the backing board so I don't think they're on the print. Probably a photo resolution issue.
Agreed re resolution but print is wavey nether the less. Uv damage is horrid.
Can't fix the UV damage. The ripples don't look right (curved) and appear on the backing board so I don't think they're on the print. Probably a photo resolution issue. Agreed re resolution but print is wavey nether the less. Uv damage is horrid.
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Hubble Bubble
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Hubble Bubble on Jun 27, 2017 22:04:17 GMT 1, Can't fix the UV damage. The ripples don't look right (curved) and appear on the backing board so I don't think they're on the print. Probably a photo resolution issue. Agreed re resolution but print is wavey nether the less. Uv damage is horrid.
Wavy wouldn't worry me so much. If I'd been locked behind that mount for 13 years, I think I'd be a bit wavy on release.
Can't fix the UV damage. The ripples don't look right (curved) and appear on the backing board so I don't think they're on the print. Probably a photo resolution issue. Agreed re resolution but print is wavey nether the less. Uv damage is horrid. Wavy wouldn't worry me so much. If I'd been locked behind that mount for 13 years, I think I'd be a bit wavy on release.
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 22:09:07 GMT 1, That two tone is awesome.... anyone know the number out of 150 ? #stayclearofthatprint
That two tone is awesome.... anyone know the number out of 150 ? #stayclearofthatprint
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Pattycakes
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Pattycakes on Jun 27, 2017 22:11:32 GMT 1, @etongroover you're right they do know or at least should, but it's bloody stupid to take people off of a mailing list who are buyers at the top level, all to save a few quid.
@etongroover you're right they do know or at least should, but it's bloody stupid to take people off of a mailing list who are buyers at the top level, all to save a few quid.
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mla
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by mla on Jun 27, 2017 22:18:34 GMT 1, Really very disappointing results but then Bonham's print sale really isn't the place to put up post-war or Banksy prints anyway so I'm not exactly surprised. They did 0 marketing for the sale, and I know of a number of very serious dealers who didn't even receive a catalogue for the sale. Really? Poor excuse for soft results. I wouldn't consider myself to be a serious buyer but it doesn't take a lot to sign up to Bonhams mailing list, checking sources for when auctions are on, etc. Serious dealers really shouldn't need Bonhams to tell them there's a sale coming up. It's their business to know! I was thinking the same thing.
Anyone serious about art, especially dealers, are well aware of upcoming sales from major auction houses. Hell, even as a relative peasant, I see Banksy lots in various auctions from lower tier houses that don't even get discussed here.
Really very disappointing results but then Bonham's print sale really isn't the place to put up post-war or Banksy prints anyway so I'm not exactly surprised. They did 0 marketing for the sale, and I know of a number of very serious dealers who didn't even receive a catalogue for the sale. Really? Poor excuse for soft results. I wouldn't consider myself to be a serious buyer but it doesn't take a lot to sign up to Bonhams mailing list, checking sources for when auctions are on, etc. Serious dealers really shouldn't need Bonhams to tell them there's a sale coming up. It's their business to know! I was thinking the same thing. Anyone serious about art, especially dealers, are well aware of upcoming sales from major auction houses. Hell, even as a relative peasant, I see Banksy lots in various auctions from lower tier houses that don't even get discussed here.
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jluhiex
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by jluhiex on Jun 27, 2017 22:36:21 GMT 1, Really very disappointing results but then Bonham's print sale really isn't the place to put up post-war or Banksy prints anyway so I'm not exactly surprised. They did 0 marketing for the sale, and I know of a number of very serious dealers who didn't even receive a catalogue for the sale. Bonhams is really where to find deals as a buyer but never as a seller. I've purchased through Bonhams Los Angeles office and they were about 20-30% lower than other major auction houses. In fact I was following 2 auctions at the same exact time (Phillips Prints and Editions & Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4/28/17) where the exact same print sold for 25% less at Bonhams.
Really very disappointing results but then Bonham's print sale really isn't the place to put up post-war or Banksy prints anyway so I'm not exactly surprised. They did 0 marketing for the sale, and I know of a number of very serious dealers who didn't even receive a catalogue for the sale. Bonhams is really where to find deals as a buyer but never as a seller. I've purchased through Bonhams Los Angeles office and they were about 20-30% lower than other major auction houses. In fact I was following 2 auctions at the same exact time (Phillips Prints and Editions & Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4/28/17) where the exact same print sold for 25% less at Bonhams.
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Shoot Again
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Shoot Again on Jun 28, 2017 8:21:00 GMT 1, This is what 65k gets you. worst condition GWRB ive ever seen Can an art restorer fix that up? Bonhams told me the answer to that question was "no"
This is what 65k gets you. worst condition GWRB ive ever seen Can an art restorer fix that up? Bonhams told me the answer to that question was "no"
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Shoot Again
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Shoot Again on Jun 28, 2017 8:21:56 GMT 1, That two tone is awesome.... anyone know the number out of 150 ? #stayclearofthatprint #22
That two tone is awesome.... anyone know the number out of 150 ? #stayclearofthatprint #22
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Shoot Again
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Shoot Again on Jun 28, 2017 8:23:26 GMT 1, Really very disappointing results but then Bonham's print sale really isn't the place to put up post-war or Banksy prints anyway so I'm not exactly surprised. They did 0 marketing for the sale, and I know of a number of very serious dealers who didn't even receive a catalogue for the sale. Bonhams is really where to find deals as a buyer but never as a seller. I've purchased through Bonhams Los Angeles office and they were about 20-30% lower than other major auction houses. In fact I was following 2 auctions at the same exact time (Phillips Prints and Editions & Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4/28/17) where the exact same print sold for 25% less at Bonhams. Agree, great place to hunt for bargains. That's where I bought my MINT (colour) Gangsta Rat (edition of 1) for a fraction of what I was expecting to pay ;-)
Really very disappointing results but then Bonham's print sale really isn't the place to put up post-war or Banksy prints anyway so I'm not exactly surprised. They did 0 marketing for the sale, and I know of a number of very serious dealers who didn't even receive a catalogue for the sale. Bonhams is really where to find deals as a buyer but never as a seller. I've purchased through Bonhams Los Angeles office and they were about 20-30% lower than other major auction houses. In fact I was following 2 auctions at the same exact time (Phillips Prints and Editions & Bonhams Prints and Multiples 4/28/17) where the exact same print sold for 25% less at Bonhams. Agree, great place to hunt for bargains. That's where I bought my MINT (colour) Gangsta Rat (edition of 1) for a fraction of what I was expecting to pay ;-)
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Shoot Again
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Shoot Again on Jun 28, 2017 8:25:26 GMT 1, Ouch to the sellers, woohooo to the buyers They really do need to sort this out before Bonhams close yet another department they are quickly becoming the poor boy i would be seriously pissed as a seller That's debatable as the seller of that GWB must be well happy to have achieved ยฃ52K for a "turkey" thanks to Bonhams ! Considering its condition (which I confirmed here after having inspected it myself) I honestly think it wouldn't have fetched ยฃ20K if offered here !
Ouch to the sellers, woohooo to the buyers They really do need to sort this out before Bonhams close yet another department they are quickly becoming the poor boy i would be seriously pissed as a seller That's debatable as the seller of that GWB must be well happy to have achieved ยฃ52K for a "turkey" thanks to Bonhams ! Considering its condition (which I confirmed here after having inspected it myself) I honestly think it wouldn't have fetched ยฃ20K if offered here !
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Jun 28, 2017 8:52:51 GMT 1, Ouch to the sellers, woohooo to the buyers They really do need to sort this out before Bonhams close yet another department they are quickly becoming the poor boy i would be seriously pissed as a seller That's debatable as the seller of that Girl With Balloon must be well happy to have achieved ยฃ52K for a "turkey" thanks to Bonhams ! Considering its condition (which I confirmed here after having inspected it myself) I honestly think it wouldn't have fetched ยฃ20K if offered here ! Ok, so If as a seller you have good quality prints steer clear of Bonhams as you will get below market prices
Though
Bonhams is a good place to get rid of damaged prints as you'll get above market
Ouch to the sellers, woohooo to the buyers They really do need to sort this out before Bonhams close yet another department they are quickly becoming the poor boy i would be seriously pissed as a seller That's debatable as the seller of that Girl With Balloon must be well happy to have achieved ยฃ52K for a "turkey" thanks to Bonhams ! Considering its condition (which I confirmed here after having inspected it myself) I honestly think it wouldn't have fetched ยฃ20K if offered here ! Ok, so If as a seller you have good quality prints steer clear of Bonhams as you will get below market prices Though Bonhams is a good place to get rid of damaged prints as you'll get above market
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rosac
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by rosac on Jun 28, 2017 9:13:28 GMT 1, Bonhams is a great place to sell art. providing its a write-off
Bonhams is a great place to sell art. providing its a write-off
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barsukauk
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by barsukauk on Jun 28, 2017 9:32:06 GMT 1, Ouch to the sellers, woohooo to the buyers They really do need to sort this out before Bonhams close yet another department they are quickly becoming the poor boy i would be seriously pissed as a seller That's debatable as the seller of that Girl With Balloon must be well happy to have achieved ยฃ52K for a "turkey" thanks to Bonhams ! Considering its condition (which I confirmed here after having inspected it myself) I honestly think it wouldn't have fetched ยฃ20K if offered here ! the same damage on a UN GWRB, was for sale in the forum and the peoples on the forum value it at 28k
Ouch to the sellers, woohooo to the buyers They really do need to sort this out before Bonhams close yet another department they are quickly becoming the poor boy i would be seriously pissed as a seller That's debatable as the seller of that Girl With Balloon must be well happy to have achieved ยฃ52K for a "turkey" thanks to Bonhams ! Considering its condition (which I confirmed here after having inspected it myself) I honestly think it wouldn't have fetched ยฃ20K if offered here ! the same damage on a UN GWRB, was for sale in the forum and the peoples on the forum value it at 28k
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Shoot Again
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Shoot Again on Jun 28, 2017 9:33:57 GMT 1, That's debatable as the seller of that Girl With Balloon must be well happy to have achieved ยฃ52K for a "turkey" thanks to Bonhams ! Considering its condition (which I confirmed here after having inspected it myself) I honestly think it wouldn't have fetched ยฃ20K if offered here ! the same damage on a UN GWRB, was for sale in the forum and the peoples on the forum value it at 28k I didn't ... but I hear you, crazy ;-)
That's debatable as the seller of that Girl With Balloon must be well happy to have achieved ยฃ52K for a "turkey" thanks to Bonhams ! Considering its condition (which I confirmed here after having inspected it myself) I honestly think it wouldn't have fetched ยฃ20K if offered here ! the same damage on a UN GWRB, was for sale in the forum and the peoples on the forum value it at 28k I didn't ... but I hear you, crazy ;-)
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mla
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by mla on Jun 29, 2017 16:32:53 GMT 1, Didn't see a thread for this. Currently in progress.
www.bonhams.com/auctions/24226/
Banksy canvases at lots 20, 22 and 23
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dotdot
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by dotdot on Jun 29, 2017 17:01:47 GMT 1, ...240... ! #1 ..
...240... ! #1 ..
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mla
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by mla on Jun 29, 2017 17:02:02 GMT 1, Lot 20 BANKSY (British, born 1975) Laugh Now But One Day We'll Be In Charge 2000
Sold for ยฃ240,000 [hammer price]
Lot 20 BANKSY (British, born 1975) Laugh Now But One Day We'll Be In Charge 2000
Sold for ยฃ240,000 [hammer price]
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dotdot
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by dotdot on Jun 29, 2017 17:02:21 GMT 1, scary numbers...
scary numbers...
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Nick on Jun 29, 2017 17:10:15 GMT 1, nice payday for the original owner!
nice payday for the original owner!
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rosac
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by rosac on Jun 29, 2017 17:12:17 GMT 1, This banksy fella is getting quite big time
This banksy fella is getting quite big time
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Fake on Jun 29, 2017 17:19:28 GMT 1, Lot 20 BANKSY (British, born 1975) Laugh Now But One Day We'll Be In Charge 2000 Sold for ยฃ240,000 [hammer price]
For that price you could have the swat bus 6 months ago
Lot 20 BANKSY (British, born 1975) Laugh Now But One Day We'll Be In Charge 2000 Sold for ยฃ240,000 [hammer price] For that price you could have the swat bus 6 months ago
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Harveyn
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Harveyn on Jun 29, 2017 17:19:38 GMT 1, Lot 20AR โ Laugh Now But One Day We'll Be In Charge 2000
Sold for ยฃ293,000 inc. premium - 61cm x 61cm
Lot 22AR Keep It Real 2002
Sold for ยฃ100,000 inc. premium - 20cm x 20cm
Lot 23AR Gangsta Rat 2004
Sold for ยฃ125,000 inc. premium - 40cm x 30cm
Lot 20AR โ Laugh Now But One Day We'll Be In Charge 2000
Sold for ยฃ293,000 inc. premium - 61cm x 61cm
Lot 22AR Keep It Real 2002
Sold for ยฃ100,000 inc. premium - 20cm x 20cm
Lot 23AR Gangsta Rat 2004
Sold for ยฃ125,000 inc. premium - 40cm x 30cm
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breezied
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by breezied on Nov 28, 2017 14:55:45 GMT 1, Estimates less than aspirational... Maybe it's me but the descriptions come accross a bit half arsed too... goo.gl/4bgqvP
Estimates less than aspirational... Maybe it's me but the descriptions come accross a bit half arsed too... goo.gl/4bgqvP
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Bonhams โข Art Auctions โข London ๐ฌ๐ง, by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 15:41:56 GMT 1, A lot of ambiguity, the Warhol has "presumably" trimmed margins. How can they not figure that out, aren't they the "experts?"
A lot of ambiguity, the Warhol has "presumably" trimmed margins. How can they not figure that out, aren't they the "experts?"
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