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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by LAZAKY on Dec 15, 2016 7:50:45 GMT 1, Same here! Finger crossed for a refund! Did you get any news? are your relics shipped?
Still nothing on my side...
Nope, nothing yet!
Anybody received a shipping confirmation?
Same here! Finger crossed for a refund! Did you get any news? are your relics shipped?
Still nothing on my side...
Nope, nothing yet! Anybody received a shipping confirmation? |
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by HRE on Dec 15, 2016 9:34:05 GMT 1, I got shipping notice and a reduced shipping cost. Expected deliver is the 20
I got shipping notice and a reduced shipping cost. Expected deliver is the 20
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by Poster Bob on Dec 15, 2016 10:11:48 GMT 1, All of my relics are now in hand, you should now have yours.
All of my relics are now in hand, you should now have yours.
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by Cutkillavince on Dec 15, 2016 10:24:35 GMT 1, I got shipping notice and a reduced shipping cost. Expected deliver is the 20
I got shipping notice and a reduced shipping cost. Expected deliver is the 20 Nice, so how much were the shipping costs at the end? |
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by shygetshigh83 on Dec 15, 2016 14:53:08 GMT 1, I mentioned the similarity on his Instagram. He said he did it first. Then deleted my comment and blocked me after I pointed to evidence of the contrary. Oh, and he called me homeboy. Haven't heard that one since the 90s. Any comments he doesn't like, he deletes then bans. Guy seems like a tool tbh. I'm selling the rest of my relics after this last release SaveSave
I mentioned the similarity on his Instagram. He said he did it first. Then deleted my comment and blocked me after I pointed to evidence of the contrary. Oh, and he called me homeboy. Haven't heard that one since the 90s. Any comments he doesn't like, he deletes then bans. Guy seems like a tool tbh. I'm selling the rest of my relics after this last release SaveSaveIf you sell the Relic 02 (the camera) let me know. |
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by ferg on Dec 15, 2016 15:31:45 GMT 1, Sellling big phone, cassette and clock prefer meet up in South East PM if interested Ferg
Sellling big phone, cassette and clock prefer meet up in South East PM if interested Ferg
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by randomname on Dec 15, 2016 16:51:23 GMT 1, I mentioned the similarity on his Instagram. He said he did it first. Then deleted my comment and blocked me after I pointed to evidence of the contrary. Oh, and he called me homeboy. Haven't heard that one since the 90s. Any comments he doesn't like, he deletes then bans. Guy seems like a tool tbh. I'm selling the rest of my relics after this last release SaveSave
Yep. Seemed like a bit of a cรผnt. As far as his work goes, it looks like style over substance. Trying to be conceptual with other people's concepts.
I mentioned the similarity on his Instagram. He said he did it first. Then deleted my comment and blocked me after I pointed to evidence of the contrary. Oh, and he called me homeboy. Haven't heard that one since the 90s. Any comments he doesn't like, he deletes then bans. Guy seems like a tool tbh. I'm selling the rest of my relics after this last release SaveSaveYep. Seemed like a bit of a cรผnt. As far as his work goes, it looks like style over substance. Trying to be conceptual with other people's concepts. |
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by brazzy on Dec 15, 2016 17:06:01 GMT 1, Any comments he doesn't like, he deletes then bans. Guy seems like a tool tbh. I'm selling the rest of my relics after this last release SaveSaveYep. Seemed like a bit of a cรผnt. As far as his work goes, it looks like style over substance. Trying to be conceptual with other people's concepts.
Any comments he doesn't like, he deletes then bans. Guy seems like a tool tbh. I'm selling the rest of my relics after this last release SaveSaveYep. Seemed like a bit of a cรผnt. As far as his work goes, it looks like style over substance. Trying to be conceptual with other people's concepts. A lot of artists are c**t. If you let an artist's personality ruin their art for you, you are going to deprive yourself of a lot of great art. |
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by randomname on Dec 15, 2016 17:13:15 GMT 1, Yep. Seemed like a bit of a cรผnt. As far as his work goes, it looks like style over substance. Trying to be conceptual with other people's concepts. A lot of artists are c**t. If you let an artist's personality ruin their art for you, you are going to deprive yourself of a lot of great art.
The next two sentences after "cรผnt" would seem to nullify your response. If you take someone else's idea and claim it for your own, you're not making great art. Doesn't matter how pretty you make it.
Yep. Seemed like a bit of a cรผnt. As far as his work goes, it looks like style over substance. Trying to be conceptual with other people's concepts. A lot of artists are c**t. If you let an artist's personality ruin their art for you, you are going to deprive yourself of a lot of great art. The next two sentences after "cรผnt" would seem to nullify your response. If you take someone else's idea and claim it for your own, you're not making great art. Doesn't matter how pretty you make it. |
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by dundun on Dec 15, 2016 17:28:08 GMT 1, A lot of artists are c**t. If you let an artist's personality ruin their art for you, you are going to deprive yourself of a lot of great art. The next two sentences after "cรผnt" would seem to nullify your response. If you take someone else's idea and claim it for your own, you're not making great art. Doesn't matter how pretty you make it.
I'd argue that Daniel's take on these is much more succinct and relevant than the other metal ones. IMO casting those in metal loses the desired affect and they're really not good(even the Stipe ones).
A lot of artists are c**t. If you let an artist's personality ruin their art for you, you are going to deprive yourself of a lot of great art. The next two sentences after "cรผnt" would seem to nullify your response. If you take someone else's idea and claim it for your own, you're not making great art. Doesn't matter how pretty you make it. Completely disagree. Art isn't just about ideas. It's just as much about execution. Does KAWS have great ideas? Not really(and I'm the hugest fan), but his execution is flawless. Could say this for about pretty much every single artist if you want to nitpick. I'd argue that Daniel's take on these is much more succinct and relevant than the other metal ones. IMO casting those in metal loses the desired affect and they're really not good(even the Stipe ones). |
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by msobel3 on Dec 15, 2016 17:38:52 GMT 1, You international guys give this artist a lot of shit about shipping charges. The shipping charges within the US were extremely reasonable. He's a NYC based artist. And as a result, like most New Yorkers, probably a bit NY-centric. If you live here, it is clear to see that people think that NYC is the center of the universe.
randomname what did you want him to do? sit on instagram and go back and forth arguing with you? how would you respond if someone came into your place of work and started making accusations towards you or critiquing you? if you could simply block them, dont you think you might do it? Go accuse other artists of stealing ideas on instagram... i bet they will block you as well. And did you know that Daniel was in a group show at Perrotin back in 2004?
You guys complain terribly about shipping charges overseas, and i certainly agree that they are high, but realize that hes doing everyone a favor by even offering to ship internationally. He just as easily could have limited shipping to USA and that would have been that.
If you look through the for sale posts on this forum, you will see how many people refuse to ship overseas! And lets be honest, most of you guys knew that shipping charges were going to be prohibitively expensive. But it was only when the relic was sold out that people realized they wanted it. I didn't see many posts on this forum a week before release saying I am located overseas, would someone in the US be willing to purchase for me and then ship it to UK or Europe.
I find it hard to imagine that someone could find fault with this release compared to what else goes on, particularly on graffiti prints and the like. The release could not have been more smooth. It was simple to access, there was no smashing f5, there was no site crash, no robots to compete with. I mean come on, guys. Compared to most of the other releases that occur, this one was so much better, less stressful and easily successful for anyone who knew they wanted it and was on ebay at noon.
You international guys give this artist a lot of shit about shipping charges. The shipping charges within the US were extremely reasonable. He's a NYC based artist. And as a result, like most New Yorkers, probably a bit NY-centric. If you live here, it is clear to see that people think that NYC is the center of the universe. randomname what did you want him to do? sit on instagram and go back and forth arguing with you? how would you respond if someone came into your place of work and started making accusations towards you or critiquing you? if you could simply block them, dont you think you might do it? Go accuse other artists of stealing ideas on instagram... i bet they will block you as well. And did you know that Daniel was in a group show at Perrotin back in 2004? You guys complain terribly about shipping charges overseas, and i certainly agree that they are high, but realize that hes doing everyone a favor by even offering to ship internationally. He just as easily could have limited shipping to USA and that would have been that. If you look through the for sale posts on this forum, you will see how many people refuse to ship overseas! And lets be honest, most of you guys knew that shipping charges were going to be prohibitively expensive. But it was only when the relic was sold out that people realized they wanted it. I didn't see many posts on this forum a week before release saying I am located overseas, would someone in the US be willing to purchase for me and then ship it to UK or Europe. I find it hard to imagine that someone could find fault with this release compared to what else goes on, particularly on graffiti prints and the like. The release could not have been more smooth. It was simple to access, there was no smashing f5, there was no site crash, no robots to compete with. I mean come on, guys. Compared to most of the other releases that occur, this one was so much better, less stressful and easily successful for anyone who knew they wanted it and was on ebay at noon. |
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by Shoot Again on Dec 15, 2016 18:20:04 GMT 1, You international guys give this artist a lot ofs**t about shipping charges. The shipping charges within the US were extremely reasonable. He's a NYC based artist. And as a result, like most New Yorkers, probably a bit NY-centric. If you live here, it is clear to see that people think that NYC is the center of the universe. randomname what did you want him to do? sit on instagram and go back and forth arguing with you? how would you respond if someone came into your place of work and started making accusations towards you or critiquing you? if you could simply block them, dont you think you might do it? Go accuse other artists of stealing ideas on instagram... i bet they will block you as well. And did you know that Daniel was in a group show at Perrotin back in 2004? You guys complain terribly about shipping charges overseas, and i certainly agree that they are high, but realize that hes doing everyone a favor by even offering to ship internationally. He just as easily could have limited shipping to USA and that would have been that. If you look through the for sale posts on this forum, you will see how many people refuse to ship overseas! And lets be honest, most of you guys knew that shipping charges were going to be prohibitively expensive. But it was only when the relic was sold out that people realized they wanted it. I didn't see many posts on this forum a week before release saying I am located overseas, would someone in the US be willing to purchase for me and then ship it to UK or Europe. I find it hard to imagine that someone could find fault with this release compared to what else goes on, particularly on graffiti prints and the like. The release could not have been more smooth. It was simple to access, there was no smashing f5, there was no site crash, no robots to compete with. I mean come on, guys. Compared to most of the other releases that occur, this one was so much better, less stressful and easily successful for anyone who knew they wanted it and was on ebay at noon.
You international guys give this artist a lot ofs**t about shipping charges. The shipping charges within the US were extremely reasonable. He's a NYC based artist. And as a result, like most New Yorkers, probably a bit NY-centric. If you live here, it is clear to see that people think that NYC is the center of the universe. randomname what did you want him to do? sit on instagram and go back and forth arguing with you? how would you respond if someone came into your place of work and started making accusations towards you or critiquing you? if you could simply block them, dont you think you might do it? Go accuse other artists of stealing ideas on instagram... i bet they will block you as well. And did you know that Daniel was in a group show at Perrotin back in 2004? You guys complain terribly about shipping charges overseas, and i certainly agree that they are high, but realize that hes doing everyone a favor by even offering to ship internationally. He just as easily could have limited shipping to USA and that would have been that. If you look through the for sale posts on this forum, you will see how many people refuse to ship overseas! And lets be honest, most of you guys knew that shipping charges were going to be prohibitively expensive. But it was only when the relic was sold out that people realized they wanted it. I didn't see many posts on this forum a week before release saying I am located overseas, would someone in the US be willing to purchase for me and then ship it to UK or Europe. I find it hard to imagine that someone could find fault with this release compared to what else goes on, particularly on graffiti prints and the like. The release could not have been more smooth. It was simple to access, there was no smashing f5, there was no site crash, no robots to compete with. I mean come on, guys. Compared to most of the other releases that occur, this one was so much better, less stressful and easily successful for anyone who knew they wanted it and was on ebay at noon. I have to agree with pretty much everything you said here (including that New Yorkers are probably a bit NY-centric !). I knew the shipping fees would be massive and I was able to buy one very easily and even with some time to think about it twice... still much cheaper than a STIK print ! Bargain in my books ;-) |
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by randomname on Dec 15, 2016 18:25:14 GMT 1, The next two sentences after "cรผnt" would seem to nullify your response. If you take someone else's idea and claim it for your own, you're not making great art. Doesn't matter how pretty you make it. Completely disagree. Art isn't just about ideas. It's just as much about execution. Does KAWS have great ideas? Not really(and I'm the hugest fan), but his execution is flawless. Could say this for about pretty much every single artist if you want to nitpick. I'd argue that Daniel's take on these is much more succinct and relevant than the other metal ones. IMO casting those in metal loses the desired affect and they're really not good(even the Stipe ones).
You're welcome to disagree. There's nothing wrong with being wrong.
Part of what makes great art great is originality. Kaws, while not my cup of tea, did something original. I don't think you would look at his work and say another artist did the exact same thing first.
And in case you didn't notice, the Future Fossils by Bughouse were cast in concrete. Daniel copied the idea exactly, only leaving off the patina.
Taking another artist's idea is not only unoriginal, it's dishonest and unethical. I find that collectors tend to mirror the ethics (or lack thereof) of the artists they collect more often than not.
The next two sentences after "cรผnt" would seem to nullify your response. If you take someone else's idea and claim it for your own, you're not making great art. Doesn't matter how pretty you make it. Completely disagree. Art isn't just about ideas. It's just as much about execution. Does KAWS have great ideas? Not really(and I'm the hugest fan), but his execution is flawless. Could say this for about pretty much every single artist if you want to nitpick. I'd argue that Daniel's take on these is much more succinct and relevant than the other metal ones. IMO casting those in metal loses the desired affect and they're really not good(even the Stipe ones). You're welcome to disagree. There's nothing wrong with being wrong. Part of what makes great art great is originality. Kaws, while not my cup of tea, did something original. I don't think you would look at his work and say another artist did the exact same thing first. And in case you didn't notice, the Future Fossils by Bughouse were cast in concrete. Daniel copied the idea exactly, only leaving off the patina. Taking another artist's idea is not only unoriginal, it's dishonest and unethical. I find that collectors tend to mirror the ethics (or lack thereof) of the artists they collect more often than not. |
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 18:27:37 GMT 1, You international guys give this artist a lot ofs**t about shipping charges. The shipping charges within the US were extremely reasonable. He's a NYC based artist. And as a result, like most New Yorkers, probably a bit NY-centric. If you live here, it is clear to see that people think that NYC is the center of the universe. randomname what did you want him to do? sit on instagram and go back and forth arguing with you? how would you respond if someone came into your place of work and started making accusations towards you or critiquing you? if you could simply block them, dont you think you might do it? Go accuse other artists of stealing ideas on instagram... i bet they will block you as well. And did you know that Daniel was in a group show at Perrotin back in 2004? You guys complain terribly about shipping charges overseas, and i certainly agree that they are high, but realize that hes doing everyone a favor by even offering to ship internationally. He just as easily could have limited shipping to USA and that would have been that. If you look through the for sale posts on this forum, you will see how many people refuse to ship overseas! And lets be honest, most of you guys knew that shipping charges were going to be prohibitively expensive. But it was only when the relic was sold out that people realized they wanted it. I didn't see many posts on this forum a week before release saying I am located overseas, would someone in the US be willing to purchase for me and then ship it to UK or Europe. I find it hard to imagine that someone could find fault with this release compared to what else goes on, particularly on graffiti prints and the like. The release could not have been more smooth. It was simple to access, there was no smashing f5, there was no site crash, no robots to compete with. I mean come on, guys. Compared to most of the other releases that occur, this one was so much better, less stressful and easily successful for anyone who knew they wanted it and was on ebay at noon.
You international guys give this artist a lot ofs**t about shipping charges. The shipping charges within the US were extremely reasonable. He's a NYC based artist. And as a result, like most New Yorkers, probably a bit NY-centric. If you live here, it is clear to see that people think that NYC is the center of the universe. randomname what did you want him to do? sit on instagram and go back and forth arguing with you? how would you respond if someone came into your place of work and started making accusations towards you or critiquing you? if you could simply block them, dont you think you might do it? Go accuse other artists of stealing ideas on instagram... i bet they will block you as well. And did you know that Daniel was in a group show at Perrotin back in 2004? You guys complain terribly about shipping charges overseas, and i certainly agree that they are high, but realize that hes doing everyone a favor by even offering to ship internationally. He just as easily could have limited shipping to USA and that would have been that. If you look through the for sale posts on this forum, you will see how many people refuse to ship overseas! And lets be honest, most of you guys knew that shipping charges were going to be prohibitively expensive. But it was only when the relic was sold out that people realized they wanted it. I didn't see many posts on this forum a week before release saying I am located overseas, would someone in the US be willing to purchase for me and then ship it to UK or Europe. I find it hard to imagine that someone could find fault with this release compared to what else goes on, particularly on graffiti prints and the like. The release could not have been more smooth. It was simple to access, there was no smashing f5, there was no site crash, no robots to compete with. I mean come on, guys. Compared to most of the other releases that occur, this one was so much better, less stressful and easily successful for anyone who knew they wanted it and was on ebay at noon. Hi Daniel |
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by randomname on Dec 15, 2016 18:42:03 GMT 1, randomname what did you want him to do? sit on instagram and go back and forth arguing with you? how would you respond if someone came into your place of work and started making accusations towards you or critiquing you? if you could simply block them, dont you think you might do it? Go accuse other artists of stealing ideas on instagram... i bet they will block you as well. And did you know that Daniel was in a group show at Perrotin back in 2004?
randomname what did you want him to do? sit on instagram and go back and forth arguing with you? how would you respond if someone came into your place of work and started making accusations towards you or critiquing you? if you could simply block them, dont you think you might do it? Go accuse other artists of stealing ideas on instagram... i bet they will block you as well. And did you know that Daniel was in a group show at Perrotin back in 2004? According to him, his first Future Relics show was in 2011. Looking at his bio, I'd guess it was "Dig" in NYC. So I don't think an unrelated show in 2004 is particularly relevant. |
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by LAZAKY on Dec 15, 2016 21:00:46 GMT 1, You international guys give this artist a lot ofs**t about shipping charges. The shipping charges within the US were extremely reasonable. He's a NYC based artist. And as a result, like most New Yorkers, probably a bit NY-centric. If you live here, it is clear to see that people think that NYC is the center of the universe. randomname what did you want him to do? sit on instagram and go back and forth arguing with you? how would you respond if someone came into your place of work and started making accusations towards you or critiquing you? if you could simply block them, dont you think you might do it? Go accuse other artists of stealing ideas on instagram... i bet they will block you as well. And did you know that Daniel was in a group show at Perrotin back in 2004? You guys complain terribly about shipping charges overseas, and i certainly agree that they are high, but realize that hes doing everyone a favor by even offering to ship internationally. He just as easily could have limited shipping to USA and that would have been that. If you look through the for sale posts on this forum, you will see how many people refuse to ship overseas! And lets be honest, most of you guys knew that shipping charges were going to be prohibitively expensive. But it was only when the relic was sold out that people realized they wanted it. I didn't see many posts on this forum a week before release saying I am located overseas, would someone in the US be willing to purchase for me and then ship it to UK or Europe. I find it hard to imagine that someone could find fault with this release compared to what else goes on, particularly on graffiti prints and the like. The release could not have been more smooth. It was simple to access, there was no smashing f5, there was no site crash, no robots to compete with. I mean come on, guys. Compared to most of the other releases that occur, this one was so much better, less stressful and easily successful for anyone who knew they wanted it and was on ebay at noon.
As arsham said, and he is proving his honesty, eBay sorted the shipping fees and his team is doing their best to refund extra shipping so everything is alright but you can't say that he is doing kind of favor to the rest of the world by offering international shipping! He is not even a New Yorker! An artist like him can't count only on his country fans, this is about business here! The release is a $200k thing so I do believe that for his pocket and his hype he need a sold out in less than 10 minutes and an international release ! And I respect that, this about art but business too !
I was lucky enough to got funds for the release but I think it's sad for other fans that wanted that piece so much and been stopped by the shipping fees, like many people on the board!
You international guys give this artist a lot ofs**t about shipping charges. The shipping charges within the US were extremely reasonable. He's a NYC based artist. And as a result, like most New Yorkers, probably a bit NY-centric. If you live here, it is clear to see that people think that NYC is the center of the universe. randomname what did you want him to do? sit on instagram and go back and forth arguing with you? how would you respond if someone came into your place of work and started making accusations towards you or critiquing you? if you could simply block them, dont you think you might do it? Go accuse other artists of stealing ideas on instagram... i bet they will block you as well. And did you know that Daniel was in a group show at Perrotin back in 2004? You guys complain terribly about shipping charges overseas, and i certainly agree that they are high, but realize that hes doing everyone a favor by even offering to ship internationally. He just as easily could have limited shipping to USA and that would have been that. If you look through the for sale posts on this forum, you will see how many people refuse to ship overseas! And lets be honest, most of you guys knew that shipping charges were going to be prohibitively expensive. But it was only when the relic was sold out that people realized they wanted it. I didn't see many posts on this forum a week before release saying I am located overseas, would someone in the US be willing to purchase for me and then ship it to UK or Europe. I find it hard to imagine that someone could find fault with this release compared to what else goes on, particularly on graffiti prints and the like. The release could not have been more smooth. It was simple to access, there was no smashing f5, there was no site crash, no robots to compete with. I mean come on, guys. Compared to most of the other releases that occur, this one was so much better, less stressful and easily successful for anyone who knew they wanted it and was on ebay at noon. As arsham said, and he is proving his honesty, eBay sorted the shipping fees and his team is doing their best to refund extra shipping so everything is alright but you can't say that he is doing kind of favor to the rest of the world by offering international shipping! He is not even a New Yorker! An artist like him can't count only on his country fans, this is about business here! The release is a $200k thing so I do believe that for his pocket and his hype he need a sold out in less than 10 minutes and an international release ! And I respect that, this about art but business too ! I was lucky enough to got funds for the release but I think it's sad for other fans that wanted that piece so much and been stopped by the shipping fees, like many people on the board! |
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by shygetshigh83 on Dec 15, 2016 23:19:59 GMT 1, Arrived!!!
Arrived!!!
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by Cutkillavince on Dec 16, 2016 6:54:44 GMT 1, Still not shipped and still no news, I hope it will arrive before Xmas...
Still not shipped and still no news, I hope it will arrive before Xmas...
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by F*X on Dec 16, 2016 10:13:04 GMT 1, Hi Ferg
What price are you loking for the big phone.
Regards
F*X
Hi Ferg
What price are you loking for the big phone.
Regards
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by ferg on Dec 16, 2016 10:26:38 GMT 1, Hi FX ยฃ600 cash f2f meeting never been opened Ferg
Hi FX ยฃ600 cash f2f meeting never been opened Ferg
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by ferg on Dec 16, 2016 10:29:57 GMT 1, Have the cassette clock and camera too Pls pm if interested Ferg
Have the cassette clock and camera too Pls pm if interested Ferg
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by london on Dec 16, 2016 14:09:13 GMT 1, how did you get the shipping refund?
still not heard anything and nothing has been shipped yet?
how did you get the shipping refund?
still not heard anything and nothing has been shipped yet?
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Cutkillavince
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by Cutkillavince on Dec 16, 2016 19:47:31 GMT 1, I finally got a shipping confirmation email 30mn ago, but still no refund nor email. Also the item was shipped via USPS whereas it should have been via UPS Worldwide Express Plus as mentioned in the order description...
I finally got a shipping confirmation email 30mn ago, but still no refund nor email. Also the item was shipped via USPS whereas it should have been via UPS Worldwide Express Plus as mentioned in the order description...
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by dundun on Dec 16, 2016 20:19:53 GMT 1, Completely disagree. Art isn't just about ideas. It's just as much about execution. Does KAWS have great ideas? Not really(and I'm the hugest fan), but his execution is flawless. Could say this for about pretty much every single artist if you want to nitpick. I'd argue that Daniel's take on these is much more succinct and relevant than the other metal ones. IMO casting those in metal loses the desired affect and they're really not good(even the Stipe ones). You're welcome to disagree. There's nothing wrong with being wrong. Part of what makes great art great is originality. Kaws, while not my cup of tea, did something original. I don't think you would look at his work and say another artist did the exact same thing first. And in case you didn't notice, the Future Fossils by Bughouse were cast in concrete. Daniel copied the idea exactly, only leaving off the patina. Taking another artist's idea is not only unoriginal, it's dishonest and unethical. I find that collectors tend to mirror the ethics (or lack thereof) of the artists they collect more often than not.
Please explain to me what KAWS or BANKSY did that's so original? Painting your character over adverts isn't exactly new and neither is making ironic social commentary using stencils. I mean KAWS admits his Companion and Chum characters are his take on Mickey Mouse and the Michelin man. Not original at all. In fact nothing is original anymore. Almost everything has been done and it's just a matter of time until someone unearths an artists source. There's a famous Einstein quote about that.
I still think the future fossil series is crap and Daniel's execution is miles better. You can tell me I'm wrong about that, but you can't debate that almost all art is derivative in one form or another. The challenge/beauty lies in the execution and I'll stand by that.
Completely disagree. Art isn't just about ideas. It's just as much about execution. Does KAWS have great ideas? Not really(and I'm the hugest fan), but his execution is flawless. Could say this for about pretty much every single artist if you want to nitpick. I'd argue that Daniel's take on these is much more succinct and relevant than the other metal ones. IMO casting those in metal loses the desired affect and they're really not good(even the Stipe ones). You're welcome to disagree. There's nothing wrong with being wrong. Part of what makes great art great is originality. Kaws, while not my cup of tea, did something original. I don't think you would look at his work and say another artist did the exact same thing first. And in case you didn't notice, the Future Fossils by Bughouse were cast in concrete. Daniel copied the idea exactly, only leaving off the patina. Taking another artist's idea is not only unoriginal, it's dishonest and unethical. I find that collectors tend to mirror the ethics (or lack thereof) of the artists they collect more often than not. Ha. That's a pretty pompous claim when you're debating opinion. Please explain to me what KAWS or BANKSY did that's so original? Painting your character over adverts isn't exactly new and neither is making ironic social commentary using stencils. I mean KAWS admits his Companion and Chum characters are his take on Mickey Mouse and the Michelin man. Not original at all. In fact nothing is original anymore. Almost everything has been done and it's just a matter of time until someone unearths an artists source. There's a famous Einstein quote about that. I still think the future fossil series is crap and Daniel's execution is miles better. You can tell me I'm wrong about that, but you can't debate that almost all art is derivative in one form or another. The challenge/beauty lies in the execution and I'll stand by that. |
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Cutkillavince
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by Cutkillavince on Dec 16, 2016 20:37:10 GMT 1, I finally got a shipping confirmation email 30mn ago, but still no refund nor email. Also the item was shipped via USPS whereas it should have been via UPS Worldwide Express Plus as mentioned in the order description...
I'm quoting myself  I was contacted by Daniel Arsham's team just few minutes ago, see below
"Yes we are working on adjusting the shipping costs and sending refunds for the difference in cost. You should receive the shipping refund later today. Thanks for your patience while we sort this out. There was some problem with the eBay sale this time and it charged everyone so much! We are fixing it!"
EDIT: I've just received a partial refund of $238, cool
I finally got a shipping confirmation email 30mn ago, but still no refund nor email. Also the item was shipped via USPS whereas it should have been via UPS Worldwide Express Plus as mentioned in the order description...
I'm quoting myself I was contacted by Daniel Arsham's team just few minutes ago, see below
"Yes we are working on adjusting the shipping costs and sending refunds for the difference in cost. You should receive the shipping refund later today. Thanks for your patience while we sort this out. There was some problem with the eBay sale this time and it charged everyone so much! We are fixing it!"
EDIT: I've just received a partial refund of $238, cool
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by Dr Plip on Dec 16, 2016 21:10:56 GMT 1,
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by ferg on Dec 17, 2016 9:56:42 GMT 1, Only 2 left cassette ยฃ400 clock ยฃ500
Only 2 left cassette ยฃ400 clock ยฃ500
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by ferg on Dec 17, 2016 9:58:43 GMT 1, Only cassette and Clock left ยฃ400 and ยฃ500
Only cassette and Clock left ยฃ400 and ยฃ500
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by vytis33 on Dec 17, 2016 14:31:10 GMT 1, Mine landed yesterday and packaging was impeccable. Very pleased
Mine landed yesterday and packaging was impeccable. Very pleased
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Daniel Arsham ๐บ๐ธ New York โข Eroded Future Relic, by Sturban Has Saggy Tits on Dec 17, 2016 14:45:03 GMT 1, This guy sounds like a right prize.. Glad I've never handed over my money to him.
He's a Kanye West fan too. My mother always told me to be wary of Kanye West fans 
This guy sounds like a right prize.. Glad I've never handed over my money to him. He's a Kanye West fan too. My mother always told me to be wary of Kanye West fans |
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I was contacted by Daniel Arsham's team just few minutes ago, see below
