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Banksy โข Paranoid Pictures, by Hubble Bubble on Jan 21, 2019 16:51:43 GMT 1, Maybe I speak to the wrong kind of athletes then. I do remember a conversation with someone once about how they were having highly oxygenated blood that they had taken out while in altitude training put back in before racing. Absolutely, you are right in the fact that I think it happens everywhere. I suspect that most athletes though, if and when challenged, would not resort to the appalling behaviour and arrogant 'catch me if you f**king can' attitude that Armstrong brazenly adopted. Well... now he's been caught and the opprobrium is justified.
Maybe I speak to the wrong kind of athletes then. I do remember a conversation with someone once about how they were having highly oxygenated blood that they had taken out while in altitude training put back in before racing. Absolutely, you are right in the fact that I think it happens everywhere. I suspect that most athletes though, if and when challenged, would not resort to the appalling behaviour and arrogant 'catch me if you f**king can' attitude that Armstrong brazenly adopted. Well... now he's been caught and the opprobrium is justified.
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Banksy โข Paranoid Pictures, by mehor on Jan 21, 2019 17:24:18 GMT 1, There are many athletes doing what he did to some extent. He just got caught. Going to disagree with you here, mate. ย Armstrong was almost unique both in the scale of the operation that he almost single handedly created and ran and also by how he viciously protected his lie by bullying and threatening. He ruined lives, careers and friendships to prevent what was common knowledge inside the peloton becoming public. ย
Seriously? Give me one sport where people do not use performance enhancing drugs? I believe people got caught with beta blocker at the Sydney olympics.....the competition was bow and arrow. The least monetary sport there is....
There are many athletes doing what he did to some extent. He just got caught. Going to disagree with you here, mate. ย Armstrong was almost unique both in the scale of the operation that he almost single handedly created and ran and also by how he viciously protected his lie by bullying and threatening. He ruined lives, careers and friendships to prevent what was common knowledge inside the peloton becoming public. ย Seriously? Give me one sport where people do not use performance enhancing drugs? I believe people got caught with beta blocker at the Sydney olympics.....the competition was bow and arrow. The least monetary sport there is....
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Banksy โข Paranoid Pictures, by mrpotatohead on Jan 21, 2019 17:35:38 GMT 1, The whole deal is quite a shame... at the end of the day vanity & ego superseded his love of the sport. Hopefully there was a time when only hard work and pure dedication as a competitor (within the limits of the rules) were his primary motivator. Not a good thing when winning at all costs overrides the passion for what an overall sport stands for... particularly since he could have still had the mechanics of a great athlete and leader with likely just an extra dose of humility. They should start bottling that up and handing it out
The whole deal is quite a shame... at the end of the day vanity & ego superseded his love of the sport. Hopefully there was a time when only hard work and pure dedication as a competitor (within the limits of the rules) were his primary motivator. Not a good thing when winning at all costs overrides the passion for what an overall sport stands for... particularly since he could have still had the mechanics of a great athlete and leader with likely just an extra dose of humility. They should start bottling that up and handing it out
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Banksy โข Paranoid Pictures, by coller on Jan 21, 2019 19:11:36 GMT 1, because 30 second ads suck
because 30 second ads suck
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Banksy โข Paranoid Pictures, by maven on Jan 21, 2019 19:21:29 GMT 1, He has those massive paintings of Ed Ruscha's Speed Racer and Safe and Effective Medication. The irony!
He has those massive paintings of Ed Ruscha's Speed Racer and Safe and Effective Medication. The irony!
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Banksy โข Paranoid Pictures, by Hubble Bubble on Jan 21, 2019 21:32:35 GMT 1, Going to disagree with you here, mate. ย Armstrong was almost unique both in the scale of the operation that he almost single handedly created and ran and also by how he viciously protected his lie by bullying and threatening. He ruined lives, careers and friendships to prevent what was common knowledge inside the peloton becoming public. ย Seriously? Give me one sport where people do not use performance enhancing drugs? I believe people got caught with beta blocker at the Sydney olympics.....the competition was bow and arrow. The least monetary sport there is....
I think you have misread my response. Iโm not doubting The widespread nature of drug cheating in sport... Iโm simply saying that the scale of Armstrongโs transgression and his attitude and belligerence towards his accusers makes him unique.
Going to disagree with you here, mate. ย Armstrong was almost unique both in the scale of the operation that he almost single handedly created and ran and also by how he viciously protected his lie by bullying and threatening. He ruined lives, careers and friendships to prevent what was common knowledge inside the peloton becoming public. ย Seriously? Give me one sport where people do not use performance enhancing drugs? I believe people got caught with beta blocker at the Sydney olympics.....the competition was bow and arrow. The least monetary sport there is.... I think you have misread my response. Iโm not doubting The widespread nature of drug cheating in sport... Iโm simply saying that the scale of Armstrongโs transgression and his attitude and belligerence towards his accusers makes him unique.
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mehor
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Banksy โข Paranoid Pictures, by mehor on Jan 21, 2019 21:43:26 GMT 1, Seriously? Give me one sport where people do not use performance enhancing drugs? I believe people got caught with beta blocker at the Sydney olympics.....the competition was bow and arrow. The least monetary sport there is.... I think you have misread my response. Iโm not doubting The widespread nature of drug cheating in sport... Iโm simply saying that the scale of Armstrongโs transgression and his attitude and belligerence towards his accusers makes him unique.
Agree.
Seriously? Give me one sport where people do not use performance enhancing drugs? I believe people got caught with beta blocker at the Sydney olympics.....the competition was bow and arrow. The least monetary sport there is.... I think you have misread my response. Iโm not doubting The widespread nature of drug cheating in sport... Iโm simply saying that the scale of Armstrongโs transgression and his attitude and belligerence towards his accusers makes him unique. Agree.
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Banksy โข Paranoid Pictures, by hibster on Jan 25, 2019 14:39:33 GMT 1, I think you have misread my response. Iโm not doubting The widespread nature of drug cheating in sport... Iโm simply saying that the scale of Armstrongโs transgression and his attitude and belligerence towards his accusers makes him unique. Agree. thirded
it's the career ruining & bullying, through his contacts, though chasing down of people that threatened him, refusing to allow them in breaks regardless of the lack of tactical benefit to him and so on
I think you have misread my response. Iโm not doubting The widespread nature of drug cheating in sport... Iโm simply saying that the scale of Armstrongโs transgression and his attitude and belligerence towards his accusers makes him unique. Agree. thirded
it's the career ruining & bullying, through his contacts, though chasing down of people that threatened him, refusing to allow them in breaks regardless of the lack of tactical benefit to him and so on
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Banksy โข Paranoid Pictures, by mehor on Jan 25, 2019 16:43:09 GMT 1, thirded
it's the career ruining & bullying,ย through his contacts, though chasing down of people that threatened him, refusing to allow them in breaks regardless of the lack of tactical benefit to him and so on
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Agree again. Even though i never liked him. The way he trained, the way he rode and his killer instinct were special imho. Ullrich for example had more god given talent, especially his body constitution and lung volume, but Armstrong killed him. And Ulle was juiced pretty good as well ๐
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it's the career ruining & bullying,ย through his contacts, though chasing down of people that threatened him, refusing to allow them in breaks regardless of the lack of tactical benefit to him and so on
[b Agree again. Even though i never liked him. The way he trained, the way he rode and his killer instinct were special imho. Ullrich for example had more god given talent, especially his body constitution and lung volume, but Armstrong killed him. And Ulle was juiced pretty good as well ๐
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Banksy โข Paranoid Pictures, by Smokeidaeye on Jan 26, 2019 0:26:54 GMT 1, It's amazing that he still has the beautiful home(s) and art collection after being sued for $100mil+. Obviously he has great lawyers!
It's amazing that he still has the beautiful home(s) and art collection after being sued for $100mil+. Obviously he has great lawyers!
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Banksy โข Paranoid Pictures, by jluhiex on Jan 26, 2019 0:34:15 GMT 1, It's amazing that he still has the beautiful home(s) and art collection after being sued for $100mil+. Obviously he has great lawyers!
100 mil is chump change for him. He owns 2.7% of uber. Once they take the company public he'll be worth well over a billion.
It's amazing that he still has the beautiful home(s) and art collection after being sued for $100mil+. Obviously he has great lawyers! 100 mil is chump change for him. He owns 2.7% of uber. Once they take the company public he'll be worth well over a billion.
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Banksy โข Paranoid Pictures, by Deleted on Jan 26, 2019 0:44:41 GMT 1, It's amazing that he still has the beautiful home(s) and art collection after being sued for $100mil+. Obviously he has great lawyers! 100 mil is chump change for him. He owns 2.7% of uber. Once they take the company public he'll be worth well over a billion.
he invested 100k
www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2018/12/07/lance-armstrong-uber-investment-saved-family/
and they say Uber could be worth as much as 90 billion
This is a mad mad world we live in
bloody disgrace,
It's amazing that he still has the beautiful home(s) and art collection after being sued for $100mil+. Obviously he has great lawyers! 100 mil is chump change for him. He owns 2.7% of uber. Once they take the company public he'll be worth well over a billion. he invested 100k www.telegraph.co.uk/cycling/2018/12/07/lance-armstrong-uber-investment-saved-family/and they say Uber could be worth as much as 90 billion This is a mad mad world we live in bloody disgrace,
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