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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Ottomatik on Apr 10, 2014 17:59:51 GMT 1, 2:
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by randomname on Apr 10, 2014 18:07:22 GMT 1, Seems like an all-around class act. Don't think I'll be buying anything from him.
Seems like an all-around class act. Don't think I'll be buying anything from him.
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by easycraig on Apr 11, 2014 7:38:46 GMT 1, Might as well add Dirty Pilot to my boycott list. Stop supporting this homophobic idiot!
for many of years.... i have only had nothing but positive transactions with them.
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Might as well add Dirty Pilot to my boycott list. Stop supporting this homophobic idiot! i don't think the above quote is a fair assessment.... -having dealt with dirty pilot for many of years.... i have only had nothing but positive transactions with them. ec |
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by iamzero on Apr 11, 2014 7:53:55 GMT 1, Are we expecting our artists to be squeaky clean these days then? They're street artists, not Cliff Richards.
Are we expecting our artists to be squeaky clean these days then? They're street artists, not Cliff Richards.
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Dungle on Apr 11, 2014 9:20:49 GMT 1, Are we expecting our artists to be squeaky clean these days then? They're street artists, not Cliff Richards.
I expect them to behave like normal human beings, not homophobic.
Being a street artist does not mean that you should be worshipped and be able to behave as you like.
Are we expecting our artists to be squeaky clean these days then? They're street artists, not Cliff Richards. I expect them to behave like normal human beings, not homophobic. Being a street artist does not mean that you should be worshipped and be able to behave as you like. |
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Deleted on Apr 11, 2014 9:34:43 GMT 1, Are we expecting our artists to be squeaky clean these days then? They're street artists, not Cliff Richards. I expect them to behave like normal human beings, not homophobic. Being a street artist does not mean that you should be worshipped and be able to behave as you like. 
Are we expecting our artists to be squeaky clean these days then? They're street artists, not Cliff Richards. I expect them to behave like normal human beings, not homophobic. Being a street artist does not mean that you should be worshipped and be able to behave as you like. Worshipped ? Well check COPE2 email address in the article poster above => COPE2GOD@yah(something).com |
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Dungle on Apr 11, 2014 9:38:39 GMT 1, I expect them to behave like normal human beings, not homophobic. Being a street artist does not mean that you should be worshipped and be able to behave as you like. Worshipped ? Well check COPE2 email address in the article poster above => COPE2GOD@yah(something).com
Indeed. I follow him on IG for some reason and he comes across as a complete knob on that too.
I expect them to behave like normal human beings, not homophobic. Being a street artist does not mean that you should be worshipped and be able to behave as you like. Worshipped ? Well check COPE2 email address in the article poster above => COPE2GOD@yah(something).com Indeed. I follow him on IG for some reason and he comes across as a complete knob on that too. |
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Petrusino on Apr 11, 2014 13:02:33 GMT 1, Honestly I do not think Cope2 is homophobic. I think he's a graffiti legend who studied the good manners in the College of the street, in the Bronx ghettos, not at the Oxford University. However, I hope he say sorry via twitter or Instagram to anyone feels offended from his words.
Honestly I do not think Cope2 is homophobic. I think he's a graffiti legend who studied the good manners in the College of the street, in the Bronx ghettos, not at the Oxford University. However, I hope he say sorry via twitter or Instagram to anyone feels offended from his words.
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Ottomatik
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Ottomatik on Apr 11, 2014 13:06:55 GMT 1, Might as well add Dirty Pilot to my boycott list. Stop supporting this homophobic idiot! i don't think the above quote is a fair assessment.... ย -having dealt with dirty pilotย for many of years.... ย i have only had nothing but positive transactions with them.ย ec
EC- As a gay man living in the US, I am not allowed(at this time) to marry the man I've lived with for 12 years. (We are going on our 14th year together.)
Yes, it's fair for me to not support any person/company/gallery that supports anything to do with homophobia.
DirtyPilot is now on that list.
They need to 'know their product.' That IS their responsibility.
cope2 has been notorious with his childish, hate filled homophobic comments. Which have been brought to members attention many times on this forum and EBeans.
Might as well add Dirty Pilot to my boycott list. Stop supporting this homophobic idiot! i don't think the above quote is a fair assessment.... ย -having dealt with dirty pilotย for many of years.... ย i have only had nothing but positive transactions with them.ย ec EC- As a gay man living in the US, I am not allowed(at this time) to marry the man I've lived with for 12 years. (We are going on our 14th year together.) Yes, it's fair for me to not support any person/company/gallery that supports anything to do with homophobia. DirtyPilot is now on that list. They need to 'know their product.' That IS their responsibility. cope2 has been notorious with his childish, hate filled homophobic comments. Which have been brought to members attention many times on this forum and EBeans. |
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Emile on Apr 11, 2014 13:07:52 GMT 1, Anyone else think the little yellow blue photo of cope2 is annoying on these pieces?
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Btw.. are these comments really the definition of homophobic? He's using the words "homo" and "faggot" as interchangable with "a**hole".
I definitely see why this is wrong and hurtful and im also not trying to defend it/him. Just wondering whether cope2 is aware of the implications his comments have.
Anyone else think the little yellow blue photo of cope2 is annoying on these pieces?
Edit:
Btw.. are these comments really the definition of homophobic? He's using the words "homo" and "faggot" as interchangable with "a**hole".
I definitely see why this is wrong and hurtful and im also not trying to defend it/him. Just wondering whether cope2 is aware of the implications his comments have.
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Ottomatik
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Ottomatik on Apr 11, 2014 13:13:59 GMT 1, Honestly I do not think Cope2 is homophobic. I think....
Honestly I do not think Cope2 is homophobic. I think.... |
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Feral Things on Apr 11, 2014 13:27:51 GMT 1, Emile - I think you've answered your own question as to whether "...these comments [are] really the definition of homophobic?" in your following sentence when you say that "He's using the words "homo" and "faggot" as interchangable with "a**hole"."
Emile - I think you've answered your own question as to whether "...these comments [are] really the definition of homophobic?" in your following sentence when you say that "He's using the words "homo" and "faggot" as interchangable with "a**hole"."
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Ottomatik
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Ottomatik on Apr 11, 2014 13:34:07 GMT 1, .. are these comments really the definition of homophobic? .
Um......yes.
It's offensive, meant to be offensive, and just an all around negative word. In my opinion, I can't ever think of a situation where it would be ok to use it.
.. are these comments really the definition of homophobic? . Um......yes. It's offensive, meant to be offensive, and just an all around negative word. In my opinion, I can't ever think of a situation where it would be ok to use it. |
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by randomname on Apr 11, 2014 13:38:11 GMT 1, Anyone else think the little yellow blue photo of cope2 is annoying on these pieces? Edit: Btw.. are these comments really the definition of homophobic? He's using the words "homo" and "faggot" as interchangable with "a**hole". I definitely see why this is wrong and hurtful and im also not trying to defend it/him. Just wondering whether cope2 is aware of the implications his comments have.
For the record, he has and does. And it is racist. I've seen his posts on Instagram. One guy wrote something to the effect of "Great work man. Too expensive for me." And he replied with "Fuck you, you broke ass n-----r. Get a fucking job." He deleted it a few minutes later, but the guy he was talking to was black. From what I can tell, Cope2 is a piece of shit on many levels.
Anyone else think the little yellow blue photo of cope2 is annoying on these pieces? Edit: Btw.. are these comments really the definition of homophobic? He's using the words "homo" and "faggot" as interchangable with "a**hole". I definitely see why this is wrong and hurtful and im also not trying to defend it/him. Just wondering whether cope2 is aware of the implications his comments have. And if he used the n-word, it wouldn't be racist? For the record, he has and does. And it is racist. I've seen his posts on Instagram. One guy wrote something to the effect of "Great work man. Too expensive for me." And he replied with "Fuck you, you broke ass n-----r. Get a fucking job." He deleted it a few minutes later, but the guy he was talking to was black. From what I can tell, Cope2 is a piece of shit on many levels. |
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Petrusino on Apr 11, 2014 13:38:49 GMT 1, I would like to know if the guy he has offended is gay or not; if that guy is not gay, it is possible that Cope2 has chosen only a bad wrong word to offend an heterosexual. However I enjoy his art, and I hope he apologizes
I would like to know if the guy he has offended is gay or not; if that guy is not gay, it is possible that Cope2 has chosen only a bad wrong word to offend an heterosexual. However I enjoy his art, and I hope he apologizes
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by randomname on Apr 11, 2014 13:42:38 GMT 1, I wondered who bought that shit.
I wondered who bought that shit. |
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by randomname on Apr 11, 2014 13:48:07 GMT 1, I would like to know if the guy he has offended is gay or not; if that guy is not gay, it is possible that Cope2 has chosen only a bad wrong word to offend an heterosexual. However I enjoy his art, and I hope he apologizes
I don't know what good an apology would do. He's constantly saying homophobic and racist stuff online. And he's often called out for doing it. Yet he keeps right on doing it. At the end of the day, he is who he is.
I would like to know if the guy he has offended is gay or not; if that guy is not gay, it is possible that Cope2 has chosen only a bad wrong word to offend an heterosexual. However I enjoy his art, and I hope he apologizes Unless I'm missing something, Ottomatik is โฆ and posted a screen grab of Cope2 calling him a ... I don't know what good an apology would do. He's constantly saying homophobic and racist stuff online. And he's often called out for doing it. Yet he keeps right on doing it. At the end of the day, he is who he is. |
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Ottomatik
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Ottomatik on Apr 11, 2014 13:50:27 GMT 1, I would like to know if the guy he has offended is gay or not; if that guy is not gay, it is possible that Cope2 has chosen only a bad wrong word to offend an heterosexual. However I enjoy his art, and I hope he apologizes
You seem a little clueless....
I'm not sure if the guy was gay or not, or if they were offended. I can't speak for other folk.
However, I can say that I am offended. And to me...that's what matters.
I would like to know if the guy he has offended is gay or not; if that guy is not gay, it is possible that Cope2 has chosen only a bad wrong word to offend an heterosexual. However I enjoy his art, and I hope he apologizes You seem a little clueless.... I'm not sure if the guy was gay or not, or if they were offended. I can't speak for other folk. However, I can say that I am offended. And to me...that's what matters. |
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Hairbland on Apr 11, 2014 14:15:16 GMT 1, I would like to know if the guy he has offended is gay or not; if that guy is not gay, it is possible that Cope2 has chosen only a bad wrong word to offend an heterosexual. However I enjoy his art, and I hope he apologizes
here's how it works in 2014 (and the last 5-10 years) - whether the guy Cope2 is referring to is gay or not means nothing. these words are used as hate words, to weaken. they are used by people of limited intelligence. and generally those who use them with the frequency of Cope2 are usually on the DL, ashamed of their own true sexuality.
there is no excuse to use these words. ever.
I would like to know if the guy he has offended is gay or not; if that guy is not gay, it is possible that Cope2 has chosen only a bad wrong word to offend an heterosexual. However I enjoy his art, and I hope he apologizes hey Petrusino...I'm a straight man in NYC, lived here my whole life. I'm educated, and liberal. here's how it works in 2014 (and the last 5-10 years) - whether the guy Cope2 is referring to is gay or not means nothing. these words are used as hate words, to weaken. they are used by people of limited intelligence. and generally those who use them with the frequency of Cope2 are usually on the DL, ashamed of their own true sexuality. there is no excuse to use these words. ever. |
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by soam24 on Apr 11, 2014 14:16:24 GMT 1, Don't support Cope2 for all the hateful reasons posted in this thread.
Don't support Cope2 for all the hateful reasons posted in this thread.
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by iamzero on Apr 11, 2014 14:42:28 GMT 1, So if you boycott cope2 and dirty pilot for supporting him do you also boycott Obey/ Shep Fairey for working with him and any other graffiti legend that happens to be friends with him?
So if you boycott cope2 and dirty pilot for supporting him do you also boycott Obey/ Shep Fairey for working with him and any other graffiti legend that happens to be friends with him?
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Coach on Apr 11, 2014 15:00:18 GMT 1, I would like to know if the guy he has offended is gay or not; if that guy is not gay, it is possible that Cope2 has chosen only a bad wrong word to offend an heterosexual. However I enjoy his art, and I hope he apologizes
In my humble opinion, it doesn't make a difference.
Using the word faggot as an insult, directed at whomever, is homophobic and, in my opinion, offensive.
I would like to know if the guy he has offended is gay or not; if that guy is not gay, it is possible that Cope2 has chosen only a bad wrong word to offend an heterosexual. However I enjoy his art, and I hope he apologizes In my humble opinion, it doesn't make a difference. Using the word faggot as an insult, directed at whomever, is homophobic and, in my opinion, offensive. |
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Petrusino on Apr 11, 2014 15:24:19 GMT 1, I do not think Martha Cooper would never been her friend if he was homophobic. I know guys, he is indefensible. I admire his art and I hope he apologize publicly. I also do not want to buy art by an homophobic artist. you are right
I do not think Martha Cooper would never been her friend if he was homophobic. I know guys, he is indefensible. I admire his art and I hope he apologize publicly. I also do not want to buy art by an homophobic artist. you are right
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by nrgball on Apr 11, 2014 15:31:29 GMT 1, The truth is that in this day and age his behavior is inexcusable. The rest of the truth is that we have no clue as to the world that this man came from. He obviously hold a tremendous amout of rage. It most likely comes from experiences that most of us have had the privilege of avoiding in our lives. I feel sorry for this man. He has to live with himself.
Aesthetically I think his work is very strong. Personally, I'm done with collecting it. To each their own.
The truth is that in this day and age his behavior is inexcusable. The rest of the truth is that we have no clue as to the world that this man came from. He obviously hold a tremendous amout of rage. It most likely comes from experiences that most of us have had the privilege of avoiding in our lives. I feel sorry for this man. He has to live with himself.
Aesthetically I think his work is very strong. Personally, I'm done with collecting it. To each their own.
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by soam24 on Apr 11, 2014 15:51:32 GMT 1, So if you boycott cope2 and dirty pilot for supporting him do you also boycott Obey/ Shep Fairey for working with him and any other graffiti legend that happens to be friends with him?
No, because their feelings / actions are not the same. But i wouldn't buy anything w/ his name on it.
So if you boycott cope2 and dirty pilot for supporting him do you also boycott Obey/ Shep Fairey for working with him and any other graffiti legend that happens to be friends with him? No, because their feelings / actions are not the same. But i wouldn't buy anything w/ his name on it. |
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by randomname on Apr 11, 2014 17:01:01 GMT 1, So if you boycott cope2 and dirty pilot for supporting him do you also boycott Obey/ Shep Fairey for working with him and any other graffiti legend that happens to be friends with him? No, because their feelings / actions are not the same. But i wouldn't buy anything w/ his name on it.
I also doubt Shepard Fairey spends much time reading comments on Instagram. Or that it comes up in conversation. He probably doesn't know. And given Shep's track record, I doubt he would have worked with him if he did know.
So if you boycott cope2 and dirty pilot for supporting him do you also boycott Obey/ Shep Fairey for working with him and any other graffiti legend that happens to be friends with him? No, because their feelings / actions are not the same. But i wouldn't buy anything w/ his name on it. I also doubt Shepard Fairey spends much time reading comments on Instagram. Or that it comes up in conversation. He probably doesn't know. And given Shep's track record, I doubt he would have worked with him if he did know. |
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Petrusino on Apr 11, 2014 17:11:52 GMT 1, However seems that he loves Madonna, Lady Gaga and Lana del Ray which are all famous gay icons
However seems that he loves Madonna, Lady Gaga and Lana del Ray which are all famous gay icons
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by Emile on Apr 11, 2014 17:16:25 GMT 1, Hey guys just wanted to apologize for my questioning
The way I'm reading your posts, it seems you were a little offended
Just wanted to make sure its clear that this was never my intention
All I wanted to do was ask a question which I needed an answer to. Not state an opinion in any way
Hope thats clear (or at least cleared up)
Thanks guys
(this is mainly for Feral Things Ottomatik and randomname)
Hey guys just wanted to apologize for my questioning The way I'm reading your posts, it seems you were a little offended Just wanted to make sure its clear that this was never my intention All I wanted to do was ask a question which I needed an answer to. Not state an opinion in any way Hope thats clear (or at least cleared up) Thanks guys (this is mainly for Feral Things Ottomatik and randomname) |
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Cope2 ๐บ๐ธ New York Graffiti โข Fernando Carlo, by randomname on Apr 11, 2014 17:21:21 GMT 1, Hey guys just wanted to apologize for my questioning The way I'm reading your posts, it seems you were a little offended Just wanted to make sure its clear that this was never my intention All I wanted to do was ask a question which I needed an answer to. Not state an opinion in any way Hope thats clear (or at least cleared up) Thanks guys (this is mainly for Feral Things Ottomatik and randomname)
I wasn't offended by anything you said. I just think Cope2 is a complete tool.
Once you reach a certain age, some behavior is never acceptable and you're old enough to have learned that no matter where you come from.
Hey guys just wanted to apologize for my questioning The way I'm reading your posts, it seems you were a little offended Just wanted to make sure its clear that this was never my intention All I wanted to do was ask a question which I needed an answer to. Not state an opinion in any way Hope thats clear (or at least cleared up) Thanks guys (this is mainly for Feral Things Ottomatik and randomname) I wasn't offended by anything you said. I just think Cope2 is a complete tool. Once you reach a certain age, some behavior is never acceptable and you're old enough to have learned that no matter where you come from. |
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