gorkie
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by gorkie on Feb 28, 2015 16:47:14 GMT 1, I would like to make one final thread here regarding the Sunset print by Dran.
My offer is $1500 (U.S.). I am not interested in paying more. I think this a pretty phenomenal return (3x) for what has been 2 weeks time.
If it makes you happier to put it up on ebay and see how much more you can get for it, I totally understand. Or you could make 3x now and make a true fan very happy. I will have to put money into the work for framing properly as well and so all things considered $1500 is my max plus shipping for this print.
I do also have some very generous trades I am willing to make as well if that is an option for you.
If this doesn't happen this time around, I am letting this one go for good. There is a lot I have witnessed regarding this print that, quite honestly, has really turned me off. And there is also quite a bit about how the show itself and how Dran and his people (not POW) have rolled that has really turned me off as well. As much as I love the guy's work I am really not liking the direction that he has taken with his life and the people he surrounds himself with. In my opinion, his prices are incredibly over-inflated. I understand it is supply and demand, but to me personally (a true fan of the work itself who is an educated collector all-around) I feel the market for Dran is in a ridiculously inflated bubble and I am getting really turned off by it all and my part of the "demand" side of the equation is very close to drying up for good and moving towards other artists who, quite honestly, I feel are priced correctly and whose work I love just as much if not more.
Thanks and if I hear from somebody after this post great. And if not, I am 150% ok with that.
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I would like to make one final thread here regarding the Sunset print by Dran. My offer is $1500 (U.S.). I am not interested in paying more. I think this a pretty phenomenal return (3x) for what has been 2 weeks time. If it makes you happier to put it up on ebay and see how much more you can get for it, I totally understand. Or you could make 3x now and make a true fan very happy. I will have to put money into the work for framing properly as well and so all things considered $1500 is my max plus shipping for this print. I do also have some very generous trades I am willing to make as well if that is an option for you. If this doesn't happen this time around, I am letting this one go for good. There is a lot I have witnessed regarding this print that, quite honestly, has really turned me off. And there is also quite a bit about how the show itself and how Dran and his people (not POW) have rolled that has really turned me off as well. As much as I love the guy's work I am really not liking the direction that he has taken with his life and the people he surrounds himself with. In my opinion, his prices are incredibly over-inflated. I understand it is supply and demand, but to me personally (a true fan of the work itself who is an educated collector all-around) I feel the market for Dran is in a ridiculously inflated bubble and I am getting really turned off by it all and my part of the "demand" side of the equation is very close to drying up for good and moving towards other artists who, quite honestly, I feel are priced correctly and whose work I love just as much if not more. Thanks and if I hear from somebody after this post great. And if not, I am 150% ok with that. Thanks |
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by meh. on Feb 28, 2015 16:56:12 GMT 1, I would like to make one final thread here regarding the Sunset print by Dran.ย My offer is $1500 (U.S.). I am not interested in paying more. I think this a pretty phenomenal return (3x) for what has been 2 weeks time.ย If if it makes you happier to put it up on ebay and see how much more you can get for it, I totally understand. Or you could make 3x now and make a true fan very happy. I will have to put money into the work for framing properly as well and so all things considered $1500 is my max plus shipping for this print. ย I do also have some very generous trades I am willing to make as well if that is an option for you.ย If this doesn't happen this time around, I am letting this one go for good. ย There is a lot I have witnessed regarding this print that, quite honestly, has really turned me off. ย And there is also quite a bit about how the show itself and how Dran and his people (not POW) have rolled that has really turned me off as well. As much as I love the guy's work I am really not liking the direction that he has taken with his life and the people he surrounds himself with. In my opinion, his prices are incredibly over-inflated. I understand it is supply and demand, but to me personally (a true fan of the work itself who is an educated collector all-around) I feel the market for Dran is in a ridiculously inflated bubble and I am getting really turned off by it all and my part of the "demand" side of the equation is very close to drying up for good and moving towards other artists who, quite honestly, I feel are priced correctly and whose work I love just as much if not more.ย Thanks and if I hear from somebody after this post great. And if not, I am 150% ok with that.ย Thanks :)
Cant you you just wait a few months and pay a lot less?
I would like to make one final thread here regarding the Sunset print by Dran.ย My offer is $1500 (U.S.). I am not interested in paying more. I think this a pretty phenomenal return (3x) for what has been 2 weeks time.ย If if it makes you happier to put it up on ebay and see how much more you can get for it, I totally understand. Or you could make 3x now and make a true fan very happy. I will have to put money into the work for framing properly as well and so all things considered $1500 is my max plus shipping for this print. ย I do also have some very generous trades I am willing to make as well if that is an option for you.ย If this doesn't happen this time around, I am letting this one go for good. ย There is a lot I have witnessed regarding this print that, quite honestly, has really turned me off. ย And there is also quite a bit about how the show itself and how Dran and his people (not POW) have rolled that has really turned me off as well. As much as I love the guy's work I am really not liking the direction that he has taken with his life and the people he surrounds himself with. In my opinion, his prices are incredibly over-inflated. I understand it is supply and demand, but to me personally (a true fan of the work itself who is an educated collector all-around) I feel the market for Dran is in a ridiculously inflated bubble and I am getting really turned off by it all and my part of the "demand" side of the equation is very close to drying up for good and moving towards other artists who, quite honestly, I feel are priced correctly and whose work I love just as much if not more.ย Thanks and if I hear from somebody after this post great. And if not, I am 150% ok with that.ย Thanks :) Cant you you just wait a few months and pay a lot less? |
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gorkie
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by gorkie on Feb 28, 2015 16:59:47 GMT 1, Sure I could. But if I can work out the deal that I, and a possible seller, are comfortable with now that is fine.
And, quite honestly, I think in a few months I am going to have an aversion to this print and will not even want to go back to it at all if it doesn't happen sooner with somebody who never really intended to hold on to it anyway.
Sure I could. But if I can work out the deal that I, and a possible seller, are comfortable with now that is fine.
And, quite honestly, I think in a few months I am going to have an aversion to this print and will not even want to go back to it at all if it doesn't happen sooner with somebody who never really intended to hold on to it anyway.
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cmodart
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by cmodart on Feb 28, 2015 17:04:40 GMT 1, Yep. Look at the recent Harrington prints, eelus the same.
Yep. Look at the recent Harrington prints, eelus the same.
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dranfan14
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by dranfan14 on Feb 28, 2015 17:11:40 GMT 1, There is a lot I have witnessed regarding this print that, quite honestly, has really turned me off. And there is also quite a bit about how the show itself and how Dran and his people (not POW) have rolled that has really turned me off as well. As much as I love the guy's work I am really not liking the direction that he has taken with his life and the people he surrounds himself with.
There is a lot I have witnessed regarding this print that, quite honestly, has really turned me off. And there is also quite a bit about how the show itself and how Dran and his people (not POW) have rolled that has really turned me off as well. As much as I love the guy's work I am really not liking the direction that he has taken with his life and the people he surrounds himself with. interesting comments? can you elaborate on this?? |
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alittle
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by alittle on Feb 28, 2015 17:19:45 GMT 1, FS threads coming?
FS threads coming?
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gorkie
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by gorkie on Feb 28, 2015 17:20:02 GMT 1, I appreciate and understand why you would ask for more info.
But I won't elaborate any further than what I have already said. It would not be right at this time.
I appreciate and understand why you would ask for more info.
But I won't elaborate any further than what I have already said. It would not be right at this time.
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Dexter Bulldog
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by Dexter Bulldog on Feb 28, 2015 17:40:29 GMT 1, i just scroll through "Active threads" so I got all excited for a second there thinking this was a for sale thread... oh well, kinda what gorkie said. but also its not like there hasnt been a lot of interest in dran to warrant some of these prices compared to some of the other artists out there. so it seems like if there is "demand" to push prices up it is because maybe a lot of other people feel how op does and love his work. the 35% increase in chalks overnight seems silly, so its simple to me, i just wont pay it. i like sunset but there were better pieces he could have gone with for this show.
side note- all the sunsets on ebay are the maroon/pink but the one they have on expresso beans is purple/green, was that a special variation or are they all different colors and everyone on ebay using the same image?
i just scroll through "Active threads" so I got all excited for a second there thinking this was a for sale thread... oh well, kinda what gorkie said. but also its not like there hasnt been a lot of interest in dran to warrant some of these prices compared to some of the other artists out there. so it seems like if there is "demand" to push prices up it is because maybe a lot of other people feel how op does and love his work. the 35% increase in chalks overnight seems silly, so its simple to me, i just wont pay it. i like sunset but there were better pieces he could have gone with for this show.
side note- all the sunsets on ebay are the maroon/pink but the one they have on expresso beans is purple/green, was that a special variation or are they all different colors and everyone on ebay using the same image?
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alittle
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by alittle on Feb 28, 2015 17:43:32 GMT 1, In person was the red/magenta sky (approx. 65), online was the purple sky (approx. 10)
In person was the red/magenta sky (approx. 65), online was the purple sky (approx. 10)
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Dexter Bulldog
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by Dexter Bulldog on Feb 28, 2015 17:45:39 GMT 1, In person was the red/magenta sky (approx. 65), online was the purple sky (approx. 10)
In person was the red/magenta sky (approx. 65), online was the purple sky (approx. 10) thanks for clearing that up.. i think i like the purple better |
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 17:51:44 GMT 1, If I had one I'd jump at the offer rather than the hassle and fees of ebay
If I had one I'd jump at the offer rather than the hassle and fees of ebay
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joecool91
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by joecool91 on Feb 28, 2015 19:46:51 GMT 1, I think you're bang on with this one Gorkie!
The market is insane with these prices for what is essentially a cartoon of the back of a lion & gazelle's head. I love Dran's work (Exhibit, I have Chalks, I even love "Poulet Dinosaur") but this and HoC just don't do it for me at all.
The concept behind the show was a great idea but these prints for me made it seem cheap!
If I was anyone with this print I'd take the $1500 and run with it!
I think you're bang on with this one Gorkie!
The market is insane with these prices for what is essentially a cartoon of the back of a lion & gazelle's head. I love Dran's work (Exhibit, I have Chalks, I even love "Poulet Dinosaur") but this and HoC just don't do it for me at all.
The concept behind the show was a great idea but these prints for me made it seem cheap!
If I was anyone with this print I'd take the $1500 and run with it!
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by met on Feb 28, 2015 21:00:39 GMT 1, i just scroll through "Active threads" so I got all excited for a second there thinking this was a for sale thread... oh well, kinda what gorkie said. but also its not like there hasnt been a lot of interest in dran to warrant some of these prices compared to some of the other artists out there. so it seems like if there is "demand" to push prices up it is because maybe a lot of other people feel how op does and love his work. the 35% increase in chalks overnight seems silly, so its simple to me, i just wont pay it. i like sunset but there were better pieces he could have gone with for this show. side note- all the sunsets on ebay are the maroon/pink but the one they have on expresso beans is purple/green, was that a special variation or are they all different colors and everyone on ebay using the same image?
This interests me because I believe that, from the print options available at the time, Sunset was the strongest.
The idea seems to have been to sell a multiple of an image featured at the show. The release was on the morning of Saturday 21 February. Work on the print would have commenced, at the very latest, on Thursday 19 February or Friday 20 February.
Of the other Public Execution pieces that were complete on 19 February, which ones do you believe were better?
i just scroll through "Active threads" so I got all excited for a second there thinking this was a for sale thread... oh well, kinda what gorkie said. but also its not like there hasnt been a lot of interest in dran to warrant some of these prices compared to some of the other artists out there. so it seems like if there is "demand" to push prices up it is because maybe a lot of other people feel how op does and love his work. the 35% increase in chalks overnight seems silly, so its simple to me, i just wont pay it. i like sunset but there were better pieces he could have gone with for this show. side note- all the sunsets on ebay are the maroon/pink but the one they have on expresso beans is purple/green, was that a special variation or are they all different colors and everyone on ebay using the same image? This interests me because I believe that, from the print options available at the time, Sunset was the strongest. The idea seems to have been to sell a multiple of an image featured at the show. The release was on the morning of Saturday 21 February. Work on the print would have commenced, at the very latest, on Thursday 19 February or Friday 20 February. Of the other Public Execution pieces that were complete on 19 February, which ones do you believe were better? |
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by Poster Bob on Feb 28, 2015 21:07:08 GMT 1, Anything hand finished with a variation in each print would have been great. I was hoping for Spiderman. I prefer his subtle, playful work.
Anything hand finished with a variation in each print would have been great. I was hoping for Spiderman. I prefer his subtle, playful work.
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alittle
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by alittle on Feb 28, 2015 21:15:14 GMT 1, I thought Sunset was a great choice. Still disappointed to be refunded on it, but life moves on.
Good luck, gorkie. I think someone will come around soon enough and help you out.
I thought Sunset was a great choice. Still disappointed to be refunded on it, but life moves on.
Good luck, gorkie. I think someone will come around soon enough and help you out.
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gorkie
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by gorkie on Feb 28, 2015 22:19:17 GMT 1, Thanks A. Appreciate that. And sorry that happened to you. Really crappy.
Thanks A. Appreciate that. And sorry that happened to you. Really crappy.
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Sunset by Dran $1500 , by dueuomo on Mar 14, 2015 3:08:53 GMT 1, Honestly, in my opinion, the problem is also that there is a very limited set of collectors that over time acquired an unusual number of works by Dran. Unfortunately, just to resell them at the pick of the market.
This is very different from the Banksy market, where the increase in price is mainly demand driven.
For Dran, given the much smaller fan base, I believe there would have been a much healthier market if not for the bargaining power acquired by few people over time. Very good investment strategy for them, but very bad for people willing to buy for the long term.
As a "chicago boy", I hate this, which is the quintessence of market manipulation.
Honestly, in my opinion, the problem is also that there is a very limited set of collectors that over time acquired an unusual number of works by Dran. Unfortunately, just to resell them at the pick of the market.
This is very different from the Banksy market, where the increase in price is mainly demand driven.
For Dran, given the much smaller fan base, I believe there would have been a much healthier market if not for the bargaining power acquired by few people over time. Very good investment strategy for them, but very bad for people willing to buy for the long term.
As a "chicago boy", I hate this, which is the quintessence of market manipulation.
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