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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Coach on Mar 25, 2015 22:14:20 GMT 1, There is a thread for films, books, songs, etc, but not one for interesting radio programmes, so I thought I would start one. Mainly because I heard a cracker yesterday.
"A Wing and a Prayer".
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05nczjl
This programme collates interviews with fighter pilots from the Battle of Britain. It doesnt glorify war, just lets them tell their story, from their relationship with female ground crew (their coming to terms with women maintaining ther aircraft's engines - this was the 1940's), the relationship between the initial upper class pilots and the new breed of working class pilots, but builds to a gripping depiction of their flights, near misses, and near death experiences.
The blurb, from the bbc:
'Fighter pilots who took part in the Battle of Britain, all in their 90s, recall the daily reality of the summer of 1940 when they formed the country's last defence against Nazi invasion. Presented by Misha Glenny, their interviews provide matter-of-fact accounts of how flashes of extraordinary bravery interspersed daily routines.
Speaking in the twilight of their lives, the interviewees talk with the benefit of a lifetime of reflection on the events of the War. They come across as courageous, but also as bold independent spirits - as they had to be, fighting alone in the sky, frequently defying orders just to survive.
The programme is recorded at The Wing, a new heritage memorial centre on the white cliffs above Folkestone, which is officially opened on Thursday 26th March. The new building is constructed in the shape of a Spitfire wing and aims to explain for future generations the airborne battle which dominated the skies 75 years ago. The Wing is not a museum, since it has few exhibits, but it does bring the Battle of Britain to life in a uniquely 21st century style. This programme provides the first public glimpse of what is inside.''
There is a thread for films, books, songs, etc, but not one for interesting radio programmes, so I thought I would start one. Mainly because I heard a cracker yesterday. "A Wing and a Prayer". www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05nczjlThis programme collates interviews with fighter pilots from the Battle of Britain. It doesnt glorify war, just lets them tell their story, from their relationship with female ground crew (their coming to terms with women maintaining ther aircraft's engines - this was the 1940's), the relationship between the initial upper class pilots and the new breed of working class pilots, but builds to a gripping depiction of their flights, near misses, and near death experiences. The blurb, from the bbc: 'Fighter pilots who took part in the Battle of Britain, all in their 90s, recall the daily reality of the summer of 1940 when they formed the country's last defence against Nazi invasion. Presented by Misha Glenny, their interviews provide matter-of-fact accounts of how flashes of extraordinary bravery interspersed daily routines. Speaking in the twilight of their lives, the interviewees talk with the benefit of a lifetime of reflection on the events of the War. They come across as courageous, but also as bold independent spirits - as they had to be, fighting alone in the sky, frequently defying orders just to survive. The programme is recorded at The Wing, a new heritage memorial centre on the white cliffs above Folkestone, which is officially opened on Thursday 26th March. The new building is constructed in the shape of a Spitfire wing and aims to explain for future generations the airborne battle which dominated the skies 75 years ago. The Wing is not a museum, since it has few exhibits, but it does bring the Battle of Britain to life in a uniquely 21st century style. This programme provides the first public glimpse of what is inside.''
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Coach on Mar 25, 2015 22:37:48 GMT 1, One of my favorite story tellers.
If you haven't met David Sedaris, then "Meet David Sedaris"
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00rz0k6
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Feral Things on Mar 26, 2015 21:39:49 GMT 1, If you haven't listened to 'Serial' then I can't recommend it highly enough. It's a podcast spinoff from the 'This American Life' radio programme, rather than a radio programme itself, but it's much the same thing.
It retraces the 1999 murder of high-school senior Hae Min Lee in Baltimore and the subsequent police investigation and trial of her ex-boyfriend Adnan Syed. It's not giving away too much to say that there are more than a few holes in the case against Syed but it's a very balanced and engaging programme. There's 12 episodes in total but everyone I know that started listening to it was hooked after the first five minutes.
You can listen to it at serialpodcast.org or download it as a podcast from iTunes.
If you haven't listened to ' Serial' then I can't recommend it highly enough. It's a podcast spinoff from the ' This American Life' radio programme, rather than a radio programme itself, but it's much the same thing. It retraces the 1999 murder of high-school senior Hae Min Lee in Baltimore and the subsequent police investigation and trial of her ex-boyfriend Adnan Syed. It's not giving away too much to say that there are more than a few holes in the case against Syed but it's a very balanced and engaging programme. There's 12 episodes in total but everyone I know that started listening to it was hooked after the first five minutes. You can listen to it at serialpodcast.org or download it as a podcast from iTunes.
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 21:47:47 GMT 1, If you haven't listened to ' Serial' then I can't recommend it highly enough. It's a podcast spinoff from the ' This American Life' radio programme, rather than a radio programme itself, but it's much the same thing. It retraces the 1999 murder of high-school senior Hae Min Lee in Baltimore and the subsequent police investigation and trial of her ex-boyfriend Adnan Syed. It's not giving away too much to say that there are more than a few holes in the case against Syed but it's a very balanced and engaging programme. There's 12 episodes in total but everyone I know that started listening to it was hooked after the first five minutes. You can listen to it at serialpodcast.org or download it as a podcast from iTunes. On my 'to listen to' list. Thanks.
Cheers coach for starting this thread, excellent idea.
If you haven't listened to ' Serial' then I can't recommend it highly enough. It's a podcast spinoff from the ' This American Life' radio programme, rather than a radio programme itself, but it's much the same thing. It retraces the 1999 murder of high-school senior Hae Min Lee in Baltimore and the subsequent police investigation and trial of her ex-boyfriend Adnan Syed. It's not giving away too much to say that there are more than a few holes in the case against Syed but it's a very balanced and engaging programme. There's 12 episodes in total but everyone I know that started listening to it was hooked after the first five minutes. You can listen to it at serialpodcast.org or download it as a podcast from iTunes. On my 'to listen to' list. Thanks. Cheers coach for starting this thread, excellent idea.
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Deleted on Mar 30, 2015 22:39:36 GMT 1, If you haven't listened to ' Serial' then I can't recommend it highly enough. It's a podcast spinoff from the ' This American Life' radio programme, rather than a radio programme itself, but it's much the same thing. It retraces the 1999 murder of high-school senior Hae Min Lee in Baltimore and the subsequent police investigation and trial of her ex-boyfriend Adnan Syed. It's not giving away too much to say that there are more than a few holes in the case against Syed but it's a very balanced and engaging programme. There's 12 episodes in total but everyone I know that started listening to it was hooked after the first five minutes. You can listen to it at serialpodcast.org or download it as a podcast from iTunes. This is fantastic listening. Fascinating.
Reminded me of The Staircase, www.imdb.com/title/tt0388644/
If you haven't listened to ' Serial' then I can't recommend it highly enough. It's a podcast spinoff from the ' This American Life' radio programme, rather than a radio programme itself, but it's much the same thing. It retraces the 1999 murder of high-school senior Hae Min Lee in Baltimore and the subsequent police investigation and trial of her ex-boyfriend Adnan Syed. It's not giving away too much to say that there are more than a few holes in the case against Syed but it's a very balanced and engaging programme. There's 12 episodes in total but everyone I know that started listening to it was hooked after the first five minutes. You can listen to it at serialpodcast.org or download it as a podcast from iTunes. This is fantastic listening. Fascinating. Reminded me of The Staircase, www.imdb.com/title/tt0388644/
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by mojo on Apr 4, 2015 15:15:52 GMT 1, I'm mostly listening to Radio 6 nowadays ...... especially on Saturday afternoons Giles Peterson followed by Mr Craig Charles www.bbc.co.uk/6music ...... it's on now!
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I'm mostly listening to Radio 6 nowadays ...... especially on Saturday afternoons Giles Peterson followed by Mr Craig Charles www.bbc.co.uk/6music ...... it's on now! ............or mi soul mi-soul.com/
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by curiousgeorge on Apr 7, 2015 0:33:25 GMT 1, Just tripped over a radio 6 link and recalled this thread.. Perhaps not the typical content but a worthy addition.. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b054z9x9
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by curiousgeorge on Apr 18, 2015 0:12:34 GMT 1, Again lowering the tone… History of amen break in length with input from a LOT of drum and bass producers/dj's
Youtube vid of a radio show..
Again lowering the tone… History of amen break in length with input from a LOT of drum and bass producers/dj's
Youtube vid of a radio show..
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 9:16:53 GMT 1, Probably worth a listen for those of us old enough to remember how violent gigs once were. Radio 4. 11.30am today, and probabaly iplayer not long after broadcast. 'Too Much Fighting On The Dancefloor'. bc.co.uk/programmes/b068xrkt
www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34184563
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by mutatis on Sept 10, 2015 10:57:33 GMT 1, Will have to catch this on iplayer - thanks for the heads up.
As a survivor, I have to say those were the good old days ..... and a reflection of the times and the music ...
Literally it was tribal warfare.
Most violent gigs for bands I attended fairly regularly tended to be:
Sham 69 (the fans themselves were crazy)
Crass (outsiders thinking they could beat up anarchist hippy types .... WRONG!)
The Antz prior to the Antz Invasion Tour 1980 (Adam's s&m antics encouraging the crowd to beat him up, plus the fact that everybody else hated them meant that they soon amassed a traveling fighting army of Antz)
Madness: simply too violent to go to until (around early 1980) when they started doing Saturday Morning Madness (matinee shows for the kids) and then I lost interest haha!
I may be wrong but the further you got outside of London the worse the violence became ....
Anyone remember the long walk up the tunnel out of Finsbury Park to the Rainbow?
Will have to catch this on iplayer - thanks for the heads up. As a survivor, I have to say those were the good old days ..... and a reflection of the times and the music ... Literally it was tribal warfare. Most violent gigs for bands I attended fairly regularly tended to be: Sham 69 (the fans themselves were crazy) Crass (outsiders thinking they could beat up anarchist hippy types .... WRONG!) The Antz prior to the Antz Invasion Tour 1980 (Adam's s&m antics encouraging the crowd to beat him up, plus the fact that everybody else hated them meant that they soon amassed a traveling fighting army of Antz) Madness: simply too violent to go to until (around early 1980) when they started doing Saturday Morning Madness (matinee shows for the kids) and then I lost interest haha! I may be wrong but the further you got outside of London the worse the violence became .... Anyone remember the long walk up the tunnel out of Finsbury Park to the Rainbow?
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 11:57:00 GMT 1, Will have to catch this on iplayer - thanks for the heads up. As a survivor, I have to say those were the good old days ..... and a reflection of the times and the music ... Literally it was tribal warfare. Most violent gigs for bands I attended fairly regularly tended to be: Sham 69 (the fans themselves were crazy) Crass (outsiders thinking they could beat up anarchist hippy types .... WRONG!) The Antz prior to the Antz Invasion Tour 1980 (Adam's s&m antics encouraging the crowd to beat him up, plus the fact that everybody else hated them meant that they soon amassed a traveling fighting army of Antz) Madness: simply too violent to go to until (around early 1980) when they started doing Saturday Morning Madness (matinee shows for the kids) and then I lost interest haha! I may be wrong but the further you got outside of London the worse the violence became .... Anyone remember the long walk up the tunnel out of Finsbury Park to the Rainbow? Judging by your post, I get the impression you're slightly older than my 50 years?
My first experience of violence was a Stiff Little Fingers gig, but by far the worst was a gig at the Rainbow, 'Woodstock Revisted' I think was it's title. Basically the arse-end of town, a mixture of punk, Oi and skinhead bands. Just awful. Skins beating up punks, dogs being brought in by bouncers and then staying to encircle the front of stage for the remainder of the gig. And yes, that walk back to the tube station. I did a few of the anarcho-bands, but never Crass. Too scared! A mate saw them at Reading and it was an out and out riot. Even the train journeys into town were scary, especially as my journey was via Aldershot - a squaddie town!
Will have to catch this on iplayer - thanks for the heads up. As a survivor, I have to say those were the good old days ..... and a reflection of the times and the music ... Literally it was tribal warfare. Most violent gigs for bands I attended fairly regularly tended to be: Sham 69 (the fans themselves were crazy) Crass (outsiders thinking they could beat up anarchist hippy types .... WRONG!) The Antz prior to the Antz Invasion Tour 1980 (Adam's s&m antics encouraging the crowd to beat him up, plus the fact that everybody else hated them meant that they soon amassed a traveling fighting army of Antz) Madness: simply too violent to go to until (around early 1980) when they started doing Saturday Morning Madness (matinee shows for the kids) and then I lost interest haha! I may be wrong but the further you got outside of London the worse the violence became .... Anyone remember the long walk up the tunnel out of Finsbury Park to the Rainbow? Judging by your post, I get the impression you're slightly older than my 50 years? My first experience of violence was a Stiff Little Fingers gig, but by far the worst was a gig at the Rainbow, 'Woodstock Revisted' I think was it's title. Basically the arse-end of town, a mixture of punk, Oi and skinhead bands. Just awful. Skins beating up punks, dogs being brought in by bouncers and then staying to encircle the front of stage for the remainder of the gig. And yes, that walk back to the tube station. I did a few of the anarcho-bands, but never Crass. Too scared! A mate saw them at Reading and it was an out and out riot. Even the train journeys into town were scary, especially as my journey was via Aldershot - a squaddie town!
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by mojo on Sept 10, 2015 13:06:03 GMT 1, John Lydon on Radcliffe and Maconie 14.30 this afternoon. www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_6music
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Coach on Sept 10, 2015 13:42:47 GMT 1, Will have to catch this on iplayer - thanks for the heads up. As a survivor, I have to say those were the good old days ..... and a reflection of the times and the music ... Literally it was tribal warfare. Most violent gigs for bands I attended fairly regularly tended to be: Sham 69 (the fans themselves were crazy) Crass (outsiders thinking they could beat up anarchist hippy types .... WRONG!) The Antz prior to the Antz Invasion Tour 1980 (Adam's s&m antics encouraging the crowd to beat him up, plus the fact that everybody else hated them meant that they soon amassed a traveling fighting army of Antz) Madness: simply too violent to go to until (around early 1980) when they started doing Saturday Morning Madness (matinee shows for the kids) and then I lost interest haha! I may be wrong but the further you got outside of London the worse the violence became .... Anyone remember the long walk up the tunnel out of Finsbury Park to the Rainbow? Judging by your post, I get the impression you're slightly older than my 50 years? My first experience of violence was a Stiff Little Fingers gig, but by far the worst was a gig at the Rainbow, 'Woodstock Revisted' I think was it's title. Basically the arse-end of town, a mixture of punk, Oi and skinhead bands. Just awful. Skins beating up punks, dogs being brought in by bouncers and then staying to encircle the front of stage for the remainder of the gig. And yes, that walk back to the tube station. I did a few of the anarcho-bands, but never Crass. Too scared! A mate saw them at Reading and it was an out and out riot. Even the train journeys into town were scary, especially as my journey was via Aldershot - a squaddie town!
In the mid eighties psychobilly gigs could be rather raucous. King Kurt gigs were fine, just a bit of a laugh. But Meteors and Guana Batz gigs were quite aggressive! Not fighting per se, but the purpose of the dancing seemed to be to hit people! (I had a short phase!!(psychobilly, not hitting people!)).
Will have to catch this on iplayer - thanks for the heads up. As a survivor, I have to say those were the good old days ..... and a reflection of the times and the music ... Literally it was tribal warfare. Most violent gigs for bands I attended fairly regularly tended to be: Sham 69 (the fans themselves were crazy) Crass (outsiders thinking they could beat up anarchist hippy types .... WRONG!) The Antz prior to the Antz Invasion Tour 1980 (Adam's s&m antics encouraging the crowd to beat him up, plus the fact that everybody else hated them meant that they soon amassed a traveling fighting army of Antz) Madness: simply too violent to go to until (around early 1980) when they started doing Saturday Morning Madness (matinee shows for the kids) and then I lost interest haha! I may be wrong but the further you got outside of London the worse the violence became .... Anyone remember the long walk up the tunnel out of Finsbury Park to the Rainbow? Judging by your post, I get the impression you're slightly older than my 50 years? My first experience of violence was a Stiff Little Fingers gig, but by far the worst was a gig at the Rainbow, 'Woodstock Revisted' I think was it's title. Basically the arse-end of town, a mixture of punk, Oi and skinhead bands. Just awful. Skins beating up punks, dogs being brought in by bouncers and then staying to encircle the front of stage for the remainder of the gig. And yes, that walk back to the tube station. I did a few of the anarcho-bands, but never Crass. Too scared! A mate saw them at Reading and it was an out and out riot. Even the train journeys into town were scary, especially as my journey was via Aldershot - a squaddie town! In the mid eighties psychobilly gigs could be rather raucous. King Kurt gigs were fine, just a bit of a laugh. But Meteors and Guana Batz gigs were quite aggressive! Not fighting per se, but the purpose of the dancing seemed to be to hit people! (I had a short phase!!(psychobilly, not hitting people!)).
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by mutatis on Sept 10, 2015 15:38:53 GMT 1, Will have to catch this on iplayer - thanks for the heads up. As a survivor, I have to say those were the good old days ..... and a reflection of the times and the music ... Literally it was tribal warfare. Most violent gigs for bands I attended fairly regularly tended to be: Sham 69 (the fans themselves were crazy) Crass (outsiders thinking they could beat up anarchist hippy types .... WRONG!) The Antz prior to the Antz Invasion Tour 1980 (Adam's s&m antics encouraging the crowd to beat him up, plus the fact that everybody else hated them meant that they soon amassed a traveling fighting army of Antz) Madness: simply too violent to go to until (around early 1980) when they started doing Saturday Morning Madness (matinee shows for the kids) and then I lost interest haha! I may be wrong but the further you got outside of London the worse the violence became .... Anyone remember the long walk up the tunnel out of Finsbury Park to the Rainbow? Judging by your post, I get the impression you're slightly older than my 50 years? My first experience of violence was a Stiff Little Fingers gig, but by far the worst was a gig at the Rainbow, 'Woodstock Revisted' I think was it's title. Basically the arse-end of town, a mixture of punk, Oi and skinhead bands. Just awful. Skins beating up punks, dogs being brought in by bouncers and then staying to encircle the front of stage for the remainder of the gig. And yes, that walk back to the tube station. I did a few of the anarcho-bands, but never Crass. Too scared! A mate saw them at Reading and it was an out and out riot. Even the train journeys into town were scary, especially as my journey was via Aldershot - a squaddie town! @xxxxx we're the same age - I started very early. First gig was the ROCK against Racism and Anti-Nazi League shindig with the Tom Robinson Band headlining The Clash, Steel Pulse, X-Ray Spex and some others at Victoria Park, Hackney. A very peaceful day. The rest was downhill from there! Post-punk gigs could be boisterous but were a breeze compared to punk, skinhead, oi bands, two-tone gigs. Cockney Rejects at the Bridge House in Canning Town was always a tasty affair.... in fact Cockney Rejects anywhere.....
Years later, Morrissey when asked about the boisterousness, celebratory almost violent atmosphere at Smiths gigs, condoned it and said that people had very little opportunity in society other than football to let off steam. I guess he was right. I'd go to Crass, Conflict, Poison Girls and their ilk all day as the people who went there in my view didn't go there to fight but would defend themselves when attacked.
Ironically when I "grew up" I was too scared to go to football matches till the late 90s and all-seater stadiums. Call me a coward .
Will have to catch this on iplayer - thanks for the heads up. As a survivor, I have to say those were the good old days ..... and a reflection of the times and the music ... Literally it was tribal warfare. Most violent gigs for bands I attended fairly regularly tended to be: Sham 69 (the fans themselves were crazy) Crass (outsiders thinking they could beat up anarchist hippy types .... WRONG!) The Antz prior to the Antz Invasion Tour 1980 (Adam's s&m antics encouraging the crowd to beat him up, plus the fact that everybody else hated them meant that they soon amassed a traveling fighting army of Antz) Madness: simply too violent to go to until (around early 1980) when they started doing Saturday Morning Madness (matinee shows for the kids) and then I lost interest haha! I may be wrong but the further you got outside of London the worse the violence became .... Anyone remember the long walk up the tunnel out of Finsbury Park to the Rainbow? Judging by your post, I get the impression you're slightly older than my 50 years? My first experience of violence was a Stiff Little Fingers gig, but by far the worst was a gig at the Rainbow, 'Woodstock Revisted' I think was it's title. Basically the arse-end of town, a mixture of punk, Oi and skinhead bands. Just awful. Skins beating up punks, dogs being brought in by bouncers and then staying to encircle the front of stage for the remainder of the gig. And yes, that walk back to the tube station. I did a few of the anarcho-bands, but never Crass. Too scared! A mate saw them at Reading and it was an out and out riot. Even the train journeys into town were scary, especially as my journey was via Aldershot - a squaddie town! @xxxxx we're the same age - I started very early. First gig was the ROCK against Racism and Anti-Nazi League shindig with the Tom Robinson Band headlining The Clash, Steel Pulse, X-Ray Spex and some others at Victoria Park, Hackney. A very peaceful day. The rest was downhill from there! Post-punk gigs could be boisterous but were a breeze compared to punk, skinhead, oi bands, two-tone gigs. Cockney Rejects at the Bridge House in Canning Town was always a tasty affair.... in fact Cockney Rejects anywhere.....
Years later, Morrissey when asked about the boisterousness, celebratory almost violent atmosphere at Smiths gigs, condoned it and said that people had very little opportunity in society other than football to let off steam. I guess he was right. I'd go to Crass, Conflict, Poison Girls and their ilk all day as the people who went there in my view didn't go there to fight but would defend themselves when attacked.
Ironically when I "grew up" I was too scared to go to football matches till the late 90s and all-seater stadiums. Call me a coward .
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by searchandrescue on Sept 10, 2015 17:57:32 GMT 1, Judging by your post, I get the impression you're slightly older than my 50 years? My first experience of violence was a Stiff Little Fingers gig, but by far the worst was a gig at the Rainbow, 'Woodstock Revisted' I think was it's title. Basically the arse-end of town, a mixture of punk, Oi and skinhead bands. Just awful. Skins beating up punks, dogs being brought in by bouncers and then staying to encircle the front of stage for the remainder of the gig. And yes, that walk back to the tube station. I did a few of the anarcho-bands, but never Crass. Too scared! A mate saw them at Reading and it was an out and out riot. Even the train journeys into town were scary, especially as my journey was via Aldershot - a squaddie town! @xxxxx we're the same age - I started very early. First gig was the ROCK against Racism and Anti-Nazi League shindig with the Tom Robinson Band headlining The Clash, Steel Pulse, X-Ray Spex and some others at Victoria Park, Hackney. A very peaceful day. The rest was downhill from there! Post-punk gigs could be boisterous but were a breeze compared to punk, skinhead, oi bands, two-tone gigs. Cockney Rejects at the Bridge House in Canning Town was always a tasty affair.... in fact Cockney Rejects anywhere.....
Years later, Morrissey when asked about the boisterousness, celebratory almost violent atmosphere at Smiths gigs, condoned it and said that people had very little opportunity in society other than football to let off steam. I guess he was right. I'd go to Crass, Conflict, Poison Girls and their ilk all day as the people who went there in my view didn't go there to fight but would defend themselves when attacked.
Ironically when I "grew up" I was too scared to go to football matches till the late 90s and all-seater stadiums. Call me a coward . thanks guys for these awesome posts! Just amazing, feel privileged to read them. Believe me you are eternal! I'm prob. just a bit younger than you, but not much! But the "I was there!" testimony from such true music fans is amazing. Thanks to all who provide these snippets / good deeds, that make this forum worth visiting.
Judging by your post, I get the impression you're slightly older than my 50 years? My first experience of violence was a Stiff Little Fingers gig, but by far the worst was a gig at the Rainbow, 'Woodstock Revisted' I think was it's title. Basically the arse-end of town, a mixture of punk, Oi and skinhead bands. Just awful. Skins beating up punks, dogs being brought in by bouncers and then staying to encircle the front of stage for the remainder of the gig. And yes, that walk back to the tube station. I did a few of the anarcho-bands, but never Crass. Too scared! A mate saw them at Reading and it was an out and out riot. Even the train journeys into town were scary, especially as my journey was via Aldershot - a squaddie town! @xxxxx we're the same age - I started very early. First gig was the ROCK against Racism and Anti-Nazi League shindig with the Tom Robinson Band headlining The Clash, Steel Pulse, X-Ray Spex and some others at Victoria Park, Hackney. A very peaceful day. The rest was downhill from there! Post-punk gigs could be boisterous but were a breeze compared to punk, skinhead, oi bands, two-tone gigs. Cockney Rejects at the Bridge House in Canning Town was always a tasty affair.... in fact Cockney Rejects anywhere.....
Years later, Morrissey when asked about the boisterousness, celebratory almost violent atmosphere at Smiths gigs, condoned it and said that people had very little opportunity in society other than football to let off steam. I guess he was right. I'd go to Crass, Conflict, Poison Girls and their ilk all day as the people who went there in my view didn't go there to fight but would defend themselves when attacked.
Ironically when I "grew up" I was too scared to go to football matches till the late 90s and all-seater stadiums. Call me a coward . thanks guys for these awesome posts! Just amazing, feel privileged to read them. Believe me you are eternal! I'm prob. just a bit younger than you, but not much! But the "I was there!" testimony from such true music fans is amazing. Thanks to all who provide these snippets / good deeds, that make this forum worth visiting.
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 20:23:26 GMT 1, Judging by your post, I get the impression you're slightly older than my 50 years? My first experience of violence was a Stiff Little Fingers gig, but by far the worst was a gig at the Rainbow, 'Woodstock Revisted' I think was it's title. Basically the arse-end of town, a mixture of punk, Oi and skinhead bands. Just awful. Skins beating up punks, dogs being brought in by bouncers and then staying to encircle the front of stage for the remainder of the gig. And yes, that walk back to the tube station. I did a few of the anarcho-bands, but never Crass. Too scared! A mate saw them at Reading and it was an out and out riot. Even the train journeys into town were scary, especially as my journey was via Aldershot - a squaddie town! @xxxxx we're the same age - I started very early. First gig was the ROCK against Racism and Anti-Nazi League shindig with the Tom Robinson Band headlining The Clash, Steel Pulse, X-Ray Spex and some others at Victoria Park, Hackney. A very peaceful day. The rest was downhill from there! Post-punk gigs could be boisterous but were a breeze compared to punk, skinhead, oi bands, two-tone gigs. Cockney Rejects at the Bridge House in Canning Town was always a tasty affair.... in fact Cockney Rejects anywhere.....
Years later, Morrissey when asked about the boisterousness, celebratory almost violent atmosphere at Smiths gigs, condoned it and said that people had very little opportunity in society other than football to let off steam. I guess he was right. I'd go to Crass, Conflict, Poison Girls and their ilk all day as the people who went there in my view didn't go there to fight but would defend themselves when attacked.
Ironically when I "grew up" I was too scared to go to football matches till the late 90s and all-seater stadiums. Call me a coward . Not sure if you've seen the Cockney Rejects film ( East End Babylon ), but worth a viewing as the level of violence at their gigs was relentless. I was also at plenty of anarcho gigs, and you're right about these gigs being relatively trouble free, atleast inside the venue. Outside was a different matter because your dress sense, badges, clothes etc labelled you. I think it was at the squats, and inparticular the Anarchy Centre ( which I never went to ) that the threat of violence was a constant. I do remember a New Model Army gig at the Hacienda ( a Yorkshire band inside Manchester/Lancashire ) which involved plenty of fighting. Most of my early London gigs were at the Lyceum on a Sunday evening as it was just over the bridge from Waterloo and we could get the last train home ( most of the time ). But you still had to have your wits about you until the safety of your parents car at the other end. And I take my hat off to my father for having the patience to stay up to pick me up in the early hours. Not sure he knew exactly what I'd been up to.
Bizarrely, one of my favourite memories is Killing Joke at Reading Top Rank in 1981 I think it was where they'd had The Stray Cats in the week before and because damage had been done to the wooden parquet flooring in front of the stage, the management made everyone take their boots off before going in. I was a naiive 16 year old who's trousers weren't as short and narrow as they should have been so was one of the few people who got in with footwear. My memory doesn't stretch to remembering what time the gig finished but I do remember piles and piles of DM's and ringing a mates Dad up from the pay phone in the venue to get him to pick us up as we were going to miss the last train.
Judging by your post, I get the impression you're slightly older than my 50 years? My first experience of violence was a Stiff Little Fingers gig, but by far the worst was a gig at the Rainbow, 'Woodstock Revisted' I think was it's title. Basically the arse-end of town, a mixture of punk, Oi and skinhead bands. Just awful. Skins beating up punks, dogs being brought in by bouncers and then staying to encircle the front of stage for the remainder of the gig. And yes, that walk back to the tube station. I did a few of the anarcho-bands, but never Crass. Too scared! A mate saw them at Reading and it was an out and out riot. Even the train journeys into town were scary, especially as my journey was via Aldershot - a squaddie town! @xxxxx we're the same age - I started very early. First gig was the ROCK against Racism and Anti-Nazi League shindig with the Tom Robinson Band headlining The Clash, Steel Pulse, X-Ray Spex and some others at Victoria Park, Hackney. A very peaceful day. The rest was downhill from there! Post-punk gigs could be boisterous but were a breeze compared to punk, skinhead, oi bands, two-tone gigs. Cockney Rejects at the Bridge House in Canning Town was always a tasty affair.... in fact Cockney Rejects anywhere.....
Years later, Morrissey when asked about the boisterousness, celebratory almost violent atmosphere at Smiths gigs, condoned it and said that people had very little opportunity in society other than football to let off steam. I guess he was right. I'd go to Crass, Conflict, Poison Girls and their ilk all day as the people who went there in my view didn't go there to fight but would defend themselves when attacked.
Ironically when I "grew up" I was too scared to go to football matches till the late 90s and all-seater stadiums. Call me a coward . Not sure if you've seen the Cockney Rejects film ( East End Babylon ), but worth a viewing as the level of violence at their gigs was relentless. I was also at plenty of anarcho gigs, and you're right about these gigs being relatively trouble free, atleast inside the venue. Outside was a different matter because your dress sense, badges, clothes etc labelled you. I think it was at the squats, and inparticular the Anarchy Centre ( which I never went to ) that the threat of violence was a constant. I do remember a New Model Army gig at the Hacienda ( a Yorkshire band inside Manchester/Lancashire ) which involved plenty of fighting. Most of my early London gigs were at the Lyceum on a Sunday evening as it was just over the bridge from Waterloo and we could get the last train home ( most of the time ). But you still had to have your wits about you until the safety of your parents car at the other end. And I take my hat off to my father for having the patience to stay up to pick me up in the early hours. Not sure he knew exactly what I'd been up to. Bizarrely, one of my favourite memories is Killing Joke at Reading Top Rank in 1981 I think it was where they'd had The Stray Cats in the week before and because damage had been done to the wooden parquet flooring in front of the stage, the management made everyone take their boots off before going in. I was a naiive 16 year old who's trousers weren't as short and narrow as they should have been so was one of the few people who got in with footwear. My memory doesn't stretch to remembering what time the gig finished but I do remember piles and piles of DM's and ringing a mates Dad up from the pay phone in the venue to get him to pick us up as we were going to miss the last train.
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by searchandrescue on Sept 10, 2015 20:48:12 GMT 1, There is a thread for films, books, songs, etc, but not one for interesting radio programmes, so I thought I would start one. Mainly because I heard a cracker yesterday. "A Wing and a Prayer". www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05nczjlThis programme collates interviews with fighter pilots from the Battle of Britain. It doesnt glorify war, just lets them tell their story, from their relationship with female ground crew (their coming to terms with women maintaining ther aircraft's engines - this was the 1940's), the relationship between the initial upper class pilots and the new breed of working class pilots, but builds to a gripping depiction of their flights, near misses, and near death experiences. The blurb, from the bbc: 'Fighter pilots who took part in the Battle of Britain, all in their 90s, recall the daily reality of the summer of 1940 when they formed the country's last defence against Nazi invasion. Presented by Misha Glenny, their interviews provide matter-of-fact accounts of how flashes of extraordinary bravery interspersed daily routines. Speaking in the twilight of their lives, the interviewees talk with the benefit of a lifetime of reflection on the events of the War. They come across as courageous, but also as bold independent spirits - as they had to be, fighting alone in the sky, frequently defying orders just to survive. The programme is recorded at The Wing, a new heritage memorial centre on the white cliffs above Folkestone, which is officially opened on Thursday 26th March. The new building is constructed in the shape of a Spitfire wing and aims to explain for future generations the airborne battle which dominated the skies 75 years ago. The Wing is not a museum, since it has few exhibits, but it does bring the Battle of Britain to life in a uniquely 21st century style. This programme provides the first public glimpse of what is inside.'' thanks coach, my great uncle flew Spitfires and Hurricanes over Europe & North Africa during the war. Was lucky enough to have him tell me some amazing stories as a young boy. Sadly he's no longer with us but his courage as well as all of those who serve now and in the past still inspires me as an adult.
There is a thread for films, books, songs, etc, but not one for interesting radio programmes, so I thought I would start one. Mainly because I heard a cracker yesterday. "A Wing and a Prayer". www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b05nczjlThis programme collates interviews with fighter pilots from the Battle of Britain. It doesnt glorify war, just lets them tell their story, from their relationship with female ground crew (their coming to terms with women maintaining ther aircraft's engines - this was the 1940's), the relationship between the initial upper class pilots and the new breed of working class pilots, but builds to a gripping depiction of their flights, near misses, and near death experiences. The blurb, from the bbc: 'Fighter pilots who took part in the Battle of Britain, all in their 90s, recall the daily reality of the summer of 1940 when they formed the country's last defence against Nazi invasion. Presented by Misha Glenny, their interviews provide matter-of-fact accounts of how flashes of extraordinary bravery interspersed daily routines. Speaking in the twilight of their lives, the interviewees talk with the benefit of a lifetime of reflection on the events of the War. They come across as courageous, but also as bold independent spirits - as they had to be, fighting alone in the sky, frequently defying orders just to survive. The programme is recorded at The Wing, a new heritage memorial centre on the white cliffs above Folkestone, which is officially opened on Thursday 26th March. The new building is constructed in the shape of a Spitfire wing and aims to explain for future generations the airborne battle which dominated the skies 75 years ago. The Wing is not a museum, since it has few exhibits, but it does bring the Battle of Britain to life in a uniquely 21st century style. This programme provides the first public glimpse of what is inside.'' thanks coach, my great uncle flew Spitfires and Hurricanes over Europe & North Africa during the war. Was lucky enough to have him tell me some amazing stories as a young boy. Sadly he's no longer with us but his courage as well as all of those who serve now and in the past still inspires me as an adult.
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by mutatis on Sept 10, 2015 21:15:55 GMT 1, Judging by your post, I get the impression you're slightly older than my 50 years? My first experience of violence was a Stiff Little Fingers gig, but by far the worst was a gig at the Rainbow, 'Woodstock Revisted' I think was it's title. Basically the arse-end of town, a mixture of punk, Oi and skinhead bands. Just awful. Skins beating up punks, dogs being brought in by bouncers and then staying to encircle the front of stage for the remainder of the gig. And yes, that walk back to the tube station. I did a few of the anarcho-bands, but never Crass. Too scared! A mate saw them at Reading and it was an out and out riot. Even the train journeys into town were scary, especially as my journey was via Aldershot - a squaddie town! In the mid eighties psychobilly gigs could be rather raucous. King Kurt gigs were fine, just a bit of a laugh. But Meteors and Guana Batz gigs were quite aggressive! Not fighting per se, but the purpose of the dancing seemed to be to hit people! (I had a short phase!!(psychobilly, not hitting people!)). Meteors, Guana Batz and Highliners were bands I was not necessarily fond of but saw a fair few times particularly the Meteors as they used to crop up on bills particularly at Klub Foot in Hammersmith and the Lyceum in the Strand because I think they were managed by John Curd the main promoter at both venues. So you'd get a psychobilly band at the bottom of a punky bill that nobody but 200 fans wanted to see and boy would the psychobillies "express themselves". King Kurt were a laugh as you say ..... will never forget the pigs head on a pole confiscated from someone outside The Fridge in Brixton. You could follow the trail of flour and entrails up the high street to the venue wherever they played. Too messy for me.
As you say it was not fighting per se and not even really a moshpit. More like a ring would form for a chicken dance-off with flailing elbows and flying forearms. Venturing near one you pretty soon realised that it was a bit different to the school playground - but there was strangely a code of honour as it was more a display of feather unfurling than mindless violence.
Judging by your post, I get the impression you're slightly older than my 50 years? My first experience of violence was a Stiff Little Fingers gig, but by far the worst was a gig at the Rainbow, 'Woodstock Revisted' I think was it's title. Basically the arse-end of town, a mixture of punk, Oi and skinhead bands. Just awful. Skins beating up punks, dogs being brought in by bouncers and then staying to encircle the front of stage for the remainder of the gig. And yes, that walk back to the tube station. I did a few of the anarcho-bands, but never Crass. Too scared! A mate saw them at Reading and it was an out and out riot. Even the train journeys into town were scary, especially as my journey was via Aldershot - a squaddie town! In the mid eighties psychobilly gigs could be rather raucous. King Kurt gigs were fine, just a bit of a laugh. But Meteors and Guana Batz gigs were quite aggressive! Not fighting per se, but the purpose of the dancing seemed to be to hit people! (I had a short phase!!(psychobilly, not hitting people!)). Meteors, Guana Batz and Highliners were bands I was not necessarily fond of but saw a fair few times particularly the Meteors as they used to crop up on bills particularly at Klub Foot in Hammersmith and the Lyceum in the Strand because I think they were managed by John Curd the main promoter at both venues. So you'd get a psychobilly band at the bottom of a punky bill that nobody but 200 fans wanted to see and boy would the psychobillies "express themselves". King Kurt were a laugh as you say ..... will never forget the pigs head on a pole confiscated from someone outside The Fridge in Brixton. You could follow the trail of flour and entrails up the high street to the venue wherever they played. Too messy for me. As you say it was not fighting per se and not even really a moshpit. More like a ring would form for a chicken dance-off with flailing elbows and flying forearms. Venturing near one you pretty soon realised that it was a bit different to the school playground - but there was strangely a code of honour as it was more a display of feather unfurling than mindless violence.
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Coach on Sept 10, 2015 21:26:05 GMT 1, In the mid eighties psychobilly gigs could be rather raucous. King Kurt gigs were fine, just a bit of a laugh. But Meteors and Guana Batz gigs were quite aggressive! Not fighting per se, but the purpose of the dancing seemed to be to hit people! (I had a short phase!!(psychobilly, not hitting people!)). Meteors, Guana Batz and Highliners were bands I was not necessarily fond of but saw a fair few times particularly the Meteors as they used to crop up on bills particularly at Klub Foot in Hammersmith and the Lyceum in the Strand because I think they were managed by John Curd the main promoter at both venues. So you'd get a psychobilly band at the bottom of a punky bill that nobody but 200 fans wanted to see and boy would the psychobillies "express themselves". King Kurt were a laugh as you say ..... will never forget the pigs head on a pole confiscated from someone outside The Fridge in Brixton. You could follow the trail of flour and entrails up the high street to the venue wherever they played. Too messy for me. As you say it was not fighting per se and not even really a moshpit. More like a ring would form for a chicken dance-off with flailing elbows and flying forearms. Venturing near one you pretty soon realised that it was a bit different to the school playground - but there was strangely a code of honour as it was more a display of feather unfurling than mindless violence.
You describe it perfectly. Much more eloquently than I did. I saw King Kurt play a makeshift stage between two pubs in derby. They had been banned from all the proper venues. Will have been around '83 or '84 I think. They came on for twenty minutes or so just to piss about, throw stuff amd have it thrown at them. Eggs, flower, grunge, beer and god knows what else. Everyone was covered head to toe. They came back again to play their set. I did thoroughly enjoy myself!
In the mid eighties psychobilly gigs could be rather raucous. King Kurt gigs were fine, just a bit of a laugh. But Meteors and Guana Batz gigs were quite aggressive! Not fighting per se, but the purpose of the dancing seemed to be to hit people! (I had a short phase!!(psychobilly, not hitting people!)). Meteors, Guana Batz and Highliners were bands I was not necessarily fond of but saw a fair few times particularly the Meteors as they used to crop up on bills particularly at Klub Foot in Hammersmith and the Lyceum in the Strand because I think they were managed by John Curd the main promoter at both venues. So you'd get a psychobilly band at the bottom of a punky bill that nobody but 200 fans wanted to see and boy would the psychobillies "express themselves". King Kurt were a laugh as you say ..... will never forget the pigs head on a pole confiscated from someone outside The Fridge in Brixton. You could follow the trail of flour and entrails up the high street to the venue wherever they played. Too messy for me. As you say it was not fighting per se and not even really a moshpit. More like a ring would form for a chicken dance-off with flailing elbows and flying forearms. Venturing near one you pretty soon realised that it was a bit different to the school playground - but there was strangely a code of honour as it was more a display of feather unfurling than mindless violence. You describe it perfectly. Much more eloquently than I did. I saw King Kurt play a makeshift stage between two pubs in derby. They had been banned from all the proper venues. Will have been around '83 or '84 I think. They came on for twenty minutes or so just to piss about, throw stuff amd have it thrown at them. Eggs, flower, grunge, beer and god knows what else. Everyone was covered head to toe. They came back again to play their set. I did thoroughly enjoy myself!
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 21:35:15 GMT 1, They came on for twenty minutes or so just to piss about, throw stuff amd have it thrown at them. Eggs, flower, grunge, beer and god knows what else. Everyone was covered head to toe. They came back again to play their set. I did thoroughly enjoy myself! Sounds like everyone got 'battered'.
I'll get my coat.
They came on for twenty minutes or so just to piss about, throw stuff amd have it thrown at them. Eggs, flower, grunge, beer and god knows what else. Everyone was covered head to toe. They came back again to play their set. I did thoroughly enjoy myself! Sounds like everyone got 'battered'. I'll get my coat.
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Coach on Sept 10, 2015 21:42:42 GMT 1, They came on for twenty minutes or so just to piss about, throw stuff amd have it thrown at them. Eggs, flower, grunge, beer and god knows what else. Everyone was covered head to toe. They came back again to play their set. I did thoroughly enjoy myself! Sounds like everyone got 'battered'. I'll get my coat.
Boom boom!!
They came on for twenty minutes or so just to piss about, throw stuff amd have it thrown at them. Eggs, flower, grunge, beer and god knows what else. Everyone was covered head to toe. They came back again to play their set. I did thoroughly enjoy myself! Sounds like everyone got 'battered'. I'll get my coat. Boom boom!!
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by mutatis on Sept 10, 2015 21:49:48 GMT 1, @xxxxx we're the same age - I started very early. First gig was the ROCK against Racism and Anti-Nazi League shindig with the Tom Robinson Band headlining The Clash, Steel Pulse, X-Ray Spex and some others at Victoria Park, Hackney. A very peaceful day. The rest was downhill from there! Post-punk gigs could be boisterous but were a breeze compared to punk, skinhead, oi bands, two-tone gigs. Cockney Rejects at the Bridge House in Canning Town was always a tasty affair.... in fact Cockney Rejects anywhere.....
Years later, Morrissey when asked about the boisterousness, celebratory almost violent atmosphere at Smiths gigs, condoned it and said that people had very little opportunity in society other than football to let off steam. I guess he was right. I'd go to Crass, Conflict, Poison Girls and their ilk all day as the people who went there in my view didn't go there to fight but would defend themselves when attacked.
Ironically when I "grew up" I was too scared to go to football matches till the late 90s and all-seater stadiums. Call me a coward . Not sure if you've seen the Cockney Rejects film ( East End Babylon ), but worth a viewing as the level of violence at their gigs was relentless. I was also at plenty of anarcho gigs, and you're right about these gigs being relatively trouble free, atleast inside the venue. Outside was a different matter because your dress sense, badges, clothes etc labelled you. I think it was at the squats, and inparticular the Anarchy Centre ( which I never went to ) that the threat of violence was a constant. I do remember a New Model Army gig at the Hacienda ( a Yorkshire band inside Manchester/Lancashire ) which involved plenty of fighting. Most of my early London gigs were at the Lyceum on a Sunday evening as it was just over the bridge from Waterloo and we could get the last train home ( most of the time ). But you still had to have your wits about you until the safety of your parents car at the other end. And I take my hat off to my father for having the patience to stay up to pick me up in the early hours. Not sure he knew exactly what I'd been up to. Bizarrely, one of my favourite memories is Killing Joke at Reading Top Rank in 1981 I think it was where they'd had The Stray Cats in the week before and because damage had been done to the wooden parquet flooring in front of the stage, the management made everyone take their boots off before going in. I was a naiive 16 year old who's trousers weren't as short and narrow as they should have been so was one of the few people who got in with footwear. My memory doesn't stretch to remembering what time the gig finished but I do remember piles and piles of DM's and ringing a mates Dad up from the pay phone in the venue to get him to pick us up as we were going to miss the last train. Haven't seen the Cockney Rejects film and I'm sure a lot of the footage would be reminiscent of Saturday afternoon on the terraces at West Ham. The Sunday nights at the Lyceum were simply fantastic - great bills - diverse music - in that it wasn't all punk. It was pure escapism for me and i went as often as I could as it was relatively cheap (I didn't drink) and it never really finished too late. Disclaimer: I was not into the Chron-Gen Anti-pasti, Anti-Nowhere League and Vice Squad bands that took over for a bit....I am sure we were at some of the same gigs.
Killing Joke were a band I still like from that era. One last whizz down memory lane - I have great memories of Killing Joke - none of them violent. I remember them playing at the Hammersmith Palais early 82 with Charge, UK Decay and Aztec Camera - yes AZTEC CAMERA. I liked Aztec Camera but to this day I always thought it was a sick joke to have them on the bill. Anyway Before Aztec Camera had even come on fans were on the front of the stage chanting for KJ. Aztec Camera were greeted with flying beakers of dubious liquids and loads of spit which often landed short. Roddy Frame battled on but had to quit the stage after about three songs covered in gunk. I like to think that i was close enough to see his eyes lightly moisten and mine did too as he was still a teenager like me .... Needless to say their departure was roundly welcomed and made the arrival of KJ all the more exciting .....
Oh nostalgia ... now to listen to that iplayer link that set me off .....
@xxxxx we're the same age - I started very early. First gig was the ROCK against Racism and Anti-Nazi League shindig with the Tom Robinson Band headlining The Clash, Steel Pulse, X-Ray Spex and some others at Victoria Park, Hackney. A very peaceful day. The rest was downhill from there! Post-punk gigs could be boisterous but were a breeze compared to punk, skinhead, oi bands, two-tone gigs. Cockney Rejects at the Bridge House in Canning Town was always a tasty affair.... in fact Cockney Rejects anywhere.....
Years later, Morrissey when asked about the boisterousness, celebratory almost violent atmosphere at Smiths gigs, condoned it and said that people had very little opportunity in society other than football to let off steam. I guess he was right. I'd go to Crass, Conflict, Poison Girls and their ilk all day as the people who went there in my view didn't go there to fight but would defend themselves when attacked.
Ironically when I "grew up" I was too scared to go to football matches till the late 90s and all-seater stadiums. Call me a coward . Not sure if you've seen the Cockney Rejects film ( East End Babylon ), but worth a viewing as the level of violence at their gigs was relentless. I was also at plenty of anarcho gigs, and you're right about these gigs being relatively trouble free, atleast inside the venue. Outside was a different matter because your dress sense, badges, clothes etc labelled you. I think it was at the squats, and inparticular the Anarchy Centre ( which I never went to ) that the threat of violence was a constant. I do remember a New Model Army gig at the Hacienda ( a Yorkshire band inside Manchester/Lancashire ) which involved plenty of fighting. Most of my early London gigs were at the Lyceum on a Sunday evening as it was just over the bridge from Waterloo and we could get the last train home ( most of the time ). But you still had to have your wits about you until the safety of your parents car at the other end. And I take my hat off to my father for having the patience to stay up to pick me up in the early hours. Not sure he knew exactly what I'd been up to. Bizarrely, one of my favourite memories is Killing Joke at Reading Top Rank in 1981 I think it was where they'd had The Stray Cats in the week before and because damage had been done to the wooden parquet flooring in front of the stage, the management made everyone take their boots off before going in. I was a naiive 16 year old who's trousers weren't as short and narrow as they should have been so was one of the few people who got in with footwear. My memory doesn't stretch to remembering what time the gig finished but I do remember piles and piles of DM's and ringing a mates Dad up from the pay phone in the venue to get him to pick us up as we were going to miss the last train. Haven't seen the Cockney Rejects film and I'm sure a lot of the footage would be reminiscent of Saturday afternoon on the terraces at West Ham. The Sunday nights at the Lyceum were simply fantastic - great bills - diverse music - in that it wasn't all punk. It was pure escapism for me and i went as often as I could as it was relatively cheap (I didn't drink) and it never really finished too late. Disclaimer: I was not into the Chron-Gen Anti-pasti, Anti-Nowhere League and Vice Squad bands that took over for a bit....I am sure we were at some of the same gigs. Killing Joke were a band I still like from that era. One last whizz down memory lane - I have great memories of Killing Joke - none of them violent. I remember them playing at the Hammersmith Palais early 82 with Charge, UK Decay and Aztec Camera - yes AZTEC CAMERA. I liked Aztec Camera but to this day I always thought it was a sick joke to have them on the bill. Anyway Before Aztec Camera had even come on fans were on the front of the stage chanting for KJ. Aztec Camera were greeted with flying beakers of dubious liquids and loads of spit which often landed short. Roddy Frame battled on but had to quit the stage after about three songs covered in gunk. I like to think that i was close enough to see his eyes lightly moisten and mine did too as he was still a teenager like me .... Needless to say their departure was roundly welcomed and made the arrival of KJ all the more exciting ..... Oh nostalgia ... now to listen to that iplayer link that set me off .....
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Coach on Sept 10, 2015 22:00:37 GMT 1, Not sure if you've seen the Cockney Rejects film ( East End Babylon ), but worth a viewing as the level of violence at their gigs was relentless. I was also at plenty of anarcho gigs, and you're right about these gigs being relatively trouble free, atleast inside the venue. Outside was a different matter because your dress sense, badges, clothes etc labelled you. I think it was at the squats, and inparticular the Anarchy Centre ( which I never went to ) that the threat of violence was a constant. I do remember a New Model Army gig at the Hacienda ( a Yorkshire band inside Manchester/Lancashire ) which involved plenty of fighting. Most of my early London gigs were at the Lyceum on a Sunday evening as it was just over the bridge from Waterloo and we could get the last train home ( most of the time ). But you still had to have your wits about you until the safety of your parents car at the other end. And I take my hat off to my father for having the patience to stay up to pick me up in the early hours. Not sure he knew exactly what I'd been up to. Bizarrely, one of my favourite memories is Killing Joke at Reading Top Rank in 1981 I think it was where they'd had The Stray Cats in the week before and because damage had been done to the wooden parquet flooring in front of the stage, the management made everyone take their boots off before going in. I was a naiive 16 year old who's trousers weren't as short and narrow as they should have been so was one of the few people who got in with footwear. My memory doesn't stretch to remembering what time the gig finished but I do remember piles and piles of DM's and ringing a mates Dad up from the pay phone in the venue to get him to pick us up as we were going to miss the last train. Haven't seen the Cockney Rejects film and I'm sure a lot of the footage would be reminiscent of Saturday afternoon on the terraces at West Ham. The Sunday nights at the Lyceum were simply fantastic - great bills - diverse music - in that it wasn't all punk. It was pure escapism for me and i went as often as I could as it was relatively cheap (I didn't drink) and it never really finished too late. Disclaimer: I was not into the Chron-Gen Anti-pasti, Anti-Nowhere League and Vice Squad bands that took over for a bit....I am sure we were at some of the same gigs. Killing Joke were a band I still like from that era. One last whizz down memory lane - I have great memories of Killing Joke - none of them violent. I remember them playing at the Hammersmith Palais early 82 with Charge, UK Decay and Aztec Camera - yes AZTEC CAMERA. I liked Aztec Camera but to this day I always thought it was a sick joke to have them on the bill. Anyway Before Aztec Camera had even come on fans were on the front of the stage chanting for KJ. Aztec Camera were greeted with flying beakers of dubious liquids and loads of spit which often landed short. Roddy Frame battled on but had to quit the stage after about three songs covered in gunk. I like to think that i was close enough to see his eyes lightly moisten and mine did too as he was still a teenager like me .... Needless to say their departure was roundly welcomed and made the arrival of KJ all the more exciting ..... Oh nostalgia ... now to listen to that iplayer link that set me off .....
Anti Pasti - best band to come out of derby! Lead singer used to have a clothes shop in derby selling punk gear. It was a cool place to hang around.
Not sure if you've seen the Cockney Rejects film ( East End Babylon ), but worth a viewing as the level of violence at their gigs was relentless. I was also at plenty of anarcho gigs, and you're right about these gigs being relatively trouble free, atleast inside the venue. Outside was a different matter because your dress sense, badges, clothes etc labelled you. I think it was at the squats, and inparticular the Anarchy Centre ( which I never went to ) that the threat of violence was a constant. I do remember a New Model Army gig at the Hacienda ( a Yorkshire band inside Manchester/Lancashire ) which involved plenty of fighting. Most of my early London gigs were at the Lyceum on a Sunday evening as it was just over the bridge from Waterloo and we could get the last train home ( most of the time ). But you still had to have your wits about you until the safety of your parents car at the other end. And I take my hat off to my father for having the patience to stay up to pick me up in the early hours. Not sure he knew exactly what I'd been up to. Bizarrely, one of my favourite memories is Killing Joke at Reading Top Rank in 1981 I think it was where they'd had The Stray Cats in the week before and because damage had been done to the wooden parquet flooring in front of the stage, the management made everyone take their boots off before going in. I was a naiive 16 year old who's trousers weren't as short and narrow as they should have been so was one of the few people who got in with footwear. My memory doesn't stretch to remembering what time the gig finished but I do remember piles and piles of DM's and ringing a mates Dad up from the pay phone in the venue to get him to pick us up as we were going to miss the last train. Haven't seen the Cockney Rejects film and I'm sure a lot of the footage would be reminiscent of Saturday afternoon on the terraces at West Ham. The Sunday nights at the Lyceum were simply fantastic - great bills - diverse music - in that it wasn't all punk. It was pure escapism for me and i went as often as I could as it was relatively cheap (I didn't drink) and it never really finished too late. Disclaimer: I was not into the Chron-Gen Anti-pasti, Anti-Nowhere League and Vice Squad bands that took over for a bit....I am sure we were at some of the same gigs. Killing Joke were a band I still like from that era. One last whizz down memory lane - I have great memories of Killing Joke - none of them violent. I remember them playing at the Hammersmith Palais early 82 with Charge, UK Decay and Aztec Camera - yes AZTEC CAMERA. I liked Aztec Camera but to this day I always thought it was a sick joke to have them on the bill. Anyway Before Aztec Camera had even come on fans were on the front of the stage chanting for KJ. Aztec Camera were greeted with flying beakers of dubious liquids and loads of spit which often landed short. Roddy Frame battled on but had to quit the stage after about three songs covered in gunk. I like to think that i was close enough to see his eyes lightly moisten and mine did too as he was still a teenager like me .... Needless to say their departure was roundly welcomed and made the arrival of KJ all the more exciting ..... Oh nostalgia ... now to listen to that iplayer link that set me off ..... Anti Pasti - best band to come out of derby! Lead singer used to have a clothes shop in derby selling punk gear. It was a cool place to hang around.
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by mutatis on Sept 10, 2015 22:09:32 GMT 1, Haven't seen the Cockney Rejects film and I'm sure a lot of the footage would be reminiscent of Saturday afternoon on the terraces at West Ham. The Sunday nights at the Lyceum were simply fantastic - great bills - diverse music - in that it wasn't all punk. It was pure escapism for me and i went as often as I could as it was relatively cheap (I didn't drink) and it never really finished too late. Disclaimer: I was not into the Chron-Gen Anti-pasti, Anti-Nowhere League and Vice Squad bands that took over for a bit....I am sure we were at some of the same gigs. Killing Joke were a band I still like from that era. One last whizz down memory lane - I have great memories of Killing Joke - none of them violent. I remember them playing at the Hammersmith Palais early 82 with Charge, UK Decay and Aztec Camera - yes AZTEC CAMERA. I liked Aztec Camera but to this day I always thought it was a sick joke to have them on the bill. Anyway Before Aztec Camera had even come on fans were on the front of the stage chanting for KJ. Aztec Camera were greeted with flying beakers of dubious liquids and loads of spit which often landed short. Roddy Frame battled on but had to quit the stage after about three songs covered in gunk. I like to think that i was close enough to see his eyes lightly moisten and mine did too as he was still a teenager like me .... Needless to say their departure was roundly welcomed and made the arrival of KJ all the more exciting ..... Oh nostalgia ... now to listen to that iplayer link that set me off ..... Anti Pasti - best band to come out of derby! Lead singer used to have a clothes shop in derby selling punk gear. It was a cool place to hang around. Are they one of those bands that are still playing? They must have been real local heroes as for a while we couldn't "escape" them down here?
Haven't seen the Cockney Rejects film and I'm sure a lot of the footage would be reminiscent of Saturday afternoon on the terraces at West Ham. The Sunday nights at the Lyceum were simply fantastic - great bills - diverse music - in that it wasn't all punk. It was pure escapism for me and i went as often as I could as it was relatively cheap (I didn't drink) and it never really finished too late. Disclaimer: I was not into the Chron-Gen Anti-pasti, Anti-Nowhere League and Vice Squad bands that took over for a bit....I am sure we were at some of the same gigs. Killing Joke were a band I still like from that era. One last whizz down memory lane - I have great memories of Killing Joke - none of them violent. I remember them playing at the Hammersmith Palais early 82 with Charge, UK Decay and Aztec Camera - yes AZTEC CAMERA. I liked Aztec Camera but to this day I always thought it was a sick joke to have them on the bill. Anyway Before Aztec Camera had even come on fans were on the front of the stage chanting for KJ. Aztec Camera were greeted with flying beakers of dubious liquids and loads of spit which often landed short. Roddy Frame battled on but had to quit the stage after about three songs covered in gunk. I like to think that i was close enough to see his eyes lightly moisten and mine did too as he was still a teenager like me .... Needless to say their departure was roundly welcomed and made the arrival of KJ all the more exciting ..... Oh nostalgia ... now to listen to that iplayer link that set me off ..... Anti Pasti - best band to come out of derby! Lead singer used to have a clothes shop in derby selling punk gear. It was a cool place to hang around. Are they one of those bands that are still playing? They must have been real local heroes as for a while we couldn't "escape" them down here?
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Coach on Sept 10, 2015 22:20:19 GMT 1, Anti Pasti - best band to come out of derby! Lead singer used to have a clothes shop in derby selling punk gear. It was a cool place to hang around. Are they one of those bands that are still playing? They must have been real local heroes as for a while we couldn't "escape" them down here?
No idea whether they are still playing. But we were proud of them at the time!
Anti Pasti - best band to come out of derby! Lead singer used to have a clothes shop in derby selling punk gear. It was a cool place to hang around. Are they one of those bands that are still playing? They must have been real local heroes as for a while we couldn't "escape" them down here? No idea whether they are still playing. But we were proud of them at the time!
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Deleted on Sept 10, 2015 22:40:09 GMT 1, Not sure if you've seen the Cockney Rejects film ( East End Babylon ), but worth a viewing as the level of violence at their gigs was relentless. I was also at plenty of anarcho gigs, and you're right about these gigs being relatively trouble free, atleast inside the venue. Outside was a different matter because your dress sense, badges, clothes etc labelled you. I think it was at the squats, and inparticular the Anarchy Centre ( which I never went to ) that the threat of violence was a constant. I do remember a New Model Army gig at the Hacienda ( a Yorkshire band inside Manchester/Lancashire ) which involved plenty of fighting. Most of my early London gigs were at the Lyceum on a Sunday evening as it was just over the bridge from Waterloo and we could get the last train home ( most of the time ). But you still had to have your wits about you until the safety of your parents car at the other end. And I take my hat off to my father for having the patience to stay up to pick me up in the early hours. Not sure he knew exactly what I'd been up to. Bizarrely, one of my favourite memories is Killing Joke at Reading Top Rank in 1981 I think it was where they'd had The Stray Cats in the week before and because damage had been done to the wooden parquet flooring in front of the stage, the management made everyone take their boots off before going in. I was a naiive 16 year old who's trousers weren't as short and narrow as they should have been so was one of the few people who got in with footwear. My memory doesn't stretch to remembering what time the gig finished but I do remember piles and piles of DM's and ringing a mates Dad up from the pay phone in the venue to get him to pick us up as we were going to miss the last train. Haven't seen the Cockney Rejects film and I'm sure a lot of the footage would be reminiscent of Saturday afternoon on the terraces at West Ham. The Sunday nights at the Lyceum were simply fantastic - great bills - diverse music - in that it wasn't all punk. It was pure escapism for me and i went as often as I could as it was relatively cheap (I didn't drink) and it never really finished too late. Disclaimer: I was not into the Chron-Gen Anti-pasti, Anti-Nowhere League and Vice Squad bands that took over for a bit....I am sure we were at some of the same gigs. Killing Joke were a band I still like from that era. One last whizz down memory lane - I have great memories of Killing Joke - none of them violent. I remember them playing at the Hammersmith Palais early 82 with Charge, UK Decay and Aztec Camera - yes AZTEC CAMERA. I liked Aztec Camera but to this day I always thought it was a sick joke to have them on the bill. Anyway Before Aztec Camera had even come on fans were on the front of the stage chanting for KJ. Aztec Camera were greeted with flying beakers of dubious liquids and loads of spit which often landed short. Roddy Frame battled on but had to quit the stage after about three songs covered in gunk. I like to think that i was close enough to see his eyes lightly moisten and mine did too as he was still a teenager like me .... Needless to say their departure was roundly welcomed and made the arrival of KJ all the more exciting ..... Oh nostalgia ... now to listen to that iplayer link that set me off ..... That KJ gig is legendary. Had to stop a mate of mine from getting on stage when Aztec Camera were on.
Not sure if you've seen the Cockney Rejects film ( East End Babylon ), but worth a viewing as the level of violence at their gigs was relentless. I was also at plenty of anarcho gigs, and you're right about these gigs being relatively trouble free, atleast inside the venue. Outside was a different matter because your dress sense, badges, clothes etc labelled you. I think it was at the squats, and inparticular the Anarchy Centre ( which I never went to ) that the threat of violence was a constant. I do remember a New Model Army gig at the Hacienda ( a Yorkshire band inside Manchester/Lancashire ) which involved plenty of fighting. Most of my early London gigs were at the Lyceum on a Sunday evening as it was just over the bridge from Waterloo and we could get the last train home ( most of the time ). But you still had to have your wits about you until the safety of your parents car at the other end. And I take my hat off to my father for having the patience to stay up to pick me up in the early hours. Not sure he knew exactly what I'd been up to. Bizarrely, one of my favourite memories is Killing Joke at Reading Top Rank in 1981 I think it was where they'd had The Stray Cats in the week before and because damage had been done to the wooden parquet flooring in front of the stage, the management made everyone take their boots off before going in. I was a naiive 16 year old who's trousers weren't as short and narrow as they should have been so was one of the few people who got in with footwear. My memory doesn't stretch to remembering what time the gig finished but I do remember piles and piles of DM's and ringing a mates Dad up from the pay phone in the venue to get him to pick us up as we were going to miss the last train. Haven't seen the Cockney Rejects film and I'm sure a lot of the footage would be reminiscent of Saturday afternoon on the terraces at West Ham. The Sunday nights at the Lyceum were simply fantastic - great bills - diverse music - in that it wasn't all punk. It was pure escapism for me and i went as often as I could as it was relatively cheap (I didn't drink) and it never really finished too late. Disclaimer: I was not into the Chron-Gen Anti-pasti, Anti-Nowhere League and Vice Squad bands that took over for a bit....I am sure we were at some of the same gigs. Killing Joke were a band I still like from that era. One last whizz down memory lane - I have great memories of Killing Joke - none of them violent. I remember them playing at the Hammersmith Palais early 82 with Charge, UK Decay and Aztec Camera - yes AZTEC CAMERA. I liked Aztec Camera but to this day I always thought it was a sick joke to have them on the bill. Anyway Before Aztec Camera had even come on fans were on the front of the stage chanting for KJ. Aztec Camera were greeted with flying beakers of dubious liquids and loads of spit which often landed short. Roddy Frame battled on but had to quit the stage after about three songs covered in gunk. I like to think that i was close enough to see his eyes lightly moisten and mine did too as he was still a teenager like me .... Needless to say their departure was roundly welcomed and made the arrival of KJ all the more exciting ..... Oh nostalgia ... now to listen to that iplayer link that set me off ..... That KJ gig is legendary. Had to stop a mate of mine from getting on stage when Aztec Camera were on.
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Coach on Oct 14, 2015 20:13:06 GMT 1, First time a serving MI5 boss has ever given a live interview.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p032qcgm
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What are you listening to .... on the Radio, by Coach on Oct 23, 2015 13:45:17 GMT 1, Highway 61 - 50 Years On
For all the Dylan fans. This is a smashing programme.
From the blurb:
Andy Kershaw re-examines the Bob Dylan album that changed popular music and his life.
Beginning with the resounding hit of a snare drum, Like A Rolling Stone starts Bob Dylan's first fully electrified album, Highway 61 Revisited. When he first heard the song in his mother's car, Bruce Springsteen said it was "like somebody kicked open the door to your mind." The album represents the birth of rock music, as opposed to the pop or beat music that preceded its release.
It sounds as subversive now as it did fifty years ago.
Besides revolutionising popular music, the album transformed the life of broadcaster Andy Kershaw. For him, nothing would be the same after Highway 61.
Andy travels to America to meet the surviving musicians and hear the extraordinary stories behind the recording sessions. Dylan was only 24 years old when he walked into Columbia Studio A in New York City to record the album in June 1965. For a masterpiece record, it is all the more remarkable that almost no preparation, and absolutely no rehearsal, went into it.
Al Kooper, who was brought in as an observer, tells how he mistakenly and fortunately found himself playing the organ on Like A Rolling Stone, discovering the song's melody on the spot. Bassist Harvey Brooks talks about the patience that was required to work with the unorthodox Dylan. Legendary Nashville musician Charlie McCoy describes how he was accidentally brought in to play the memorable Spanish-sounding guitar on Desolation Row. And Keith Richards provides a surprising take on Highway 61's legacy.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06gtk2l
Highway 61 - 50 Years On For all the Dylan fans. This is a smashing programme. From the blurb: Andy Kershaw re-examines the Bob Dylan album that changed popular music and his life. Beginning with the resounding hit of a snare drum, Like A Rolling Stone starts Bob Dylan's first fully electrified album, Highway 61 Revisited. When he first heard the song in his mother's car, Bruce Springsteen said it was "like somebody kicked open the door to your mind." The album represents the birth of rock music, as opposed to the pop or beat music that preceded its release. It sounds as subversive now as it did fifty years ago. Besides revolutionising popular music, the album transformed the life of broadcaster Andy Kershaw. For him, nothing would be the same after Highway 61. Andy travels to America to meet the surviving musicians and hear the extraordinary stories behind the recording sessions. Dylan was only 24 years old when he walked into Columbia Studio A in New York City to record the album in June 1965. For a masterpiece record, it is all the more remarkable that almost no preparation, and absolutely no rehearsal, went into it. Al Kooper, who was brought in as an observer, tells how he mistakenly and fortunately found himself playing the organ on Like A Rolling Stone, discovering the song's melody on the spot. Bassist Harvey Brooks talks about the patience that was required to work with the unorthodox Dylan. Legendary Nashville musician Charlie McCoy describes how he was accidentally brought in to play the memorable Spanish-sounding guitar on Desolation Row. And Keith Richards provides a surprising take on Highway 61's legacy. www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b06gtk2l
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