buffin
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by buffin on Sept 24, 2020 20:09:03 GMT 1, Did you read the first sentence? I did - at first I thought you were after an evaluation - to which I thought there is no one in world atm who has a clue what is the current market value.ย ย But then you go on about providing current banksy market paperwork - so I then thought - COA. Is this a riddle? Do I have to guess what you're after?ย
Fair play to you. Very polite reply given the uncalled for response you got.
Did you read the first sentence? I did - at first I thought you were after an evaluation - to which I thought there is no one in world atm who has a clue what is the current market value.ย ย But then you go on about providing current banksy market paperwork - so I then thought - COA. Is this a riddle? Do I have to guess what you're after?ย Fair play to you. Very polite reply given the uncalled for response you got.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by lv90210 on Sept 24, 2020 20:14:11 GMT 1, I don't think anyone can tell you that atm - prices are all over the place - September 18th - Jack and Jill Signed sold ยฃ62,500
- September 23rd - Jack and Jill Signed sold for ยฃ112,500
Pink ap a quarter of a milly ?
I don't think anyone can tell you that atm - prices are all over the place - September 18th - Jack and Jill Signed sold ยฃ62,500
- September 23rd - Jack and Jill Signed sold for ยฃ112,500
Pink ap a quarter of a milly ?
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by cest on Sept 24, 2020 21:01:18 GMT 1, Looking for a an art appraiser in the usa who can provide "current" banksy market paperwork
To answer my own question... Georgetown frame shoppe is doing it for me. I had bought some things from there in the past, and they were happy to do the valuation.
Once again, I have nothing but great things to say about them
Looking for a an art appraiser in the usa who can provide "current" banksy market paperwork To answer my own question... Georgetown frame shoppe is doing it for me. I had bought some things from there in the past, and they were happy to do the valuation. Once again, I have nothing but great things to say about them
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by glap86 on Oct 2, 2020 23:16:23 GMT 1, Is that Christieโs auction result on the NOLA (white) (127k gbp) an outlier or do we think thatโs where Nola prices really are right now?
Is that Christieโs auction result on the NOLA (white) (127k gbp) an outlier or do we think thatโs where Nola prices really are right now?
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by artdelight on Oct 3, 2020 18:29:17 GMT 1, Is that Christieโs auction result on the NOLA (white) (127k gbp) an outlier or do we think thatโs where Nola prices really are right now?
Prices will go up.
Is that Christieโs auction result on the NOLA (white) (127k gbp) an outlier or do we think thatโs where Nola prices really are right now? Prices will go up.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by samo on Oct 3, 2020 18:51:32 GMT 1, Is that Christieโs auction result on the NOLA (white) (127k gbp) an outlier or do we think thatโs where Nola prices really are right now? Prices will go up.
Maybe Newton's law of gravitation doesn't apply to the Banksy market ๐
Is that Christieโs auction result on the NOLA (white) (127k gbp) an outlier or do we think thatโs where Nola prices really are right now? Prices will go up.
Maybe Newton's law of gravitation doesn't apply to the Banksy market ๐
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by artdelight on Oct 3, 2020 22:58:09 GMT 1,
Maybe Newton's law of gravitation doesn't apply to the Banksy market ๐
Newton lost his fortune in a stock market, so his opinion doesn't count.
Maybe Newton's law of gravitation doesn't apply to the Banksy market ๐
Newton lost his fortune in a stock market, so his opinion doesn't count.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by glap86 on Oct 4, 2020 5:55:00 GMT 1, Is that Christieโs auction result on the NOLA (white) (127k gbp) an outlier or do we think thatโs where Nola prices really are right now? Prices will go up.
Thatโs wild. There was one on prescription art a few months ago for like half that. Lucky buyer.
Is that Christieโs auction result on the NOLA (white) (127k gbp) an outlier or do we think thatโs where Nola prices really are right now? Prices will go up. Thatโs wild. There was one on prescription art a few months ago for like half that. Lucky buyer.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by blerd on Oct 4, 2020 6:29:20 GMT 1, How much do we think CYW Ed 25 is?
How much do we think CYW Ed 25 is?
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by artdelight on Oct 4, 2020 7:10:49 GMT 1, How much do we think Choose Your Weapon Ed 25 is?
Ed 25 Choose your weapon 135000 ยฃ
How much do we think Choose Your Weapon Ed 25 is? Ed 25 Choose your weapon 135000 ยฃ
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Sundowner on Oct 4, 2020 8:07:51 GMT 1, How much do we think Choose Your Weapon Ed 25 is? Ed 25 Choose your weapon 135000 ยฃ
Very much colour dependent. A khaki sold recently at ยฃ95k.
How much do we think Choose Your Weapon Ed 25 is? Ed 25 Choose your weapon 135000 ยฃ Very much colour dependent. A khaki sold recently at ยฃ95k.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by fusion0001 on Oct 4, 2020 9:37:34 GMT 1, I wanted to post here a short report I pulled together with some nice data on price development for Banksy prints in 2020. I posted it on banksy-value last week, but wanted to post the full thing here for discussion:
What do the numbers say?
Banksy print prices have performed well during 2020 with an overall increase of 104% in Banksy Price Index, implying on average doubling of print value. While the recent rally make most of us feel like the performance was totally immune to the pandemic this was not necessarily the case. During early 2020 there was a clear and pronounced "hesitation" in the market, as shown in the figure below, which has been indexed vs August 2019 price levels. The downside was minimal, which definitely has helped with the confidence in print pricing over the summer and contributed towards the rally over last months.
At the same time we have seen a significant volume of auctions. While the volumes and prices achieved at auction may feel high, they are fully in line with historical volumes and auction premiums vs Banksy Print Index.ย During last 12 months there has been 314 Banksy prints sold at auction, while during previous period the number was 300. This is only a 5% increase, while same increase last year was >45%. Despite what it may feel like, we are not seeing much more prints flowing to auction. Average print price at auction has also increased from ยฃ23k to 42.5kยฃ, which seems below the value increase of prints, but is likely justified by increased number of lower-end unsigned prints coming to auction. These trends are illustrated below (keep in mind that the data is mapped in periods from September to September to make it comparable to last 12 months).
Is the price increaseย unprecedented?
We have never seen a 50% month-on-month price increase in Banksy Print Index and we have also never seen a 100% increase year-on-year. However, there are a few situations that have come close:
- >10% increases are fairly common month-on-month with strong performance on major auctions, last one being the 14% increase on Sotheby's Online in September 2019
- >50% annual increases have also happened several times:
55% increase in 2017, 60% increase from mid-2014 to mid-2015, 45% increase from mid-2010 to mid-2011ย
Are there differences across prints?ย
There are indeed significant differences in performance across prints. Firstly, signed have clearly outperformed unsigned. The value increase in unsigned has been as far as 2x compared to signed prints. Historically there has never been such separation in value.
There has also been separation in performance of different print categories. I have split all prints into high-end and low-end to illustrate this. As high-end I have defined signed with value ยฃ>75k as of September and unsigned with value ยฃ>45k, while other prints fall into low-end. The resulting chart is interesting, as it shows that low-end unsigned have by far outperformed other print segments (e.g. prints like Flags, Napalm and Toxic Mary that were unwanted last year are now selling in ยฃ30k range), while for signed prints the high-end prints have performed better than low-end.
I wanted to post here a short report I pulled together with some nice data on price development for Banksy prints in 2020. I posted it on banksy-value last week, but wanted to post the full thing here for discussion: What do the numbers say?
Banksy print prices have performed well during 2020 with an overall increase of 104% in Banksy Price Index, implying on average doubling of print value. While the recent rally make most of us feel like the performance was totally immune to the pandemic this was not necessarily the case. During early 2020 there was a clear and pronounced "hesitation" in the market, as shown in the figure below, which has been indexed vs August 2019 price levels. The downside was minimal, which definitely has helped with the confidence in print pricing over the summer and contributed towards the rally over last months. At the same time we have seen a significant volume of auctions. While the volumes and prices achieved at auction may feel high, they are fully in line with historical volumes and auction premiums vs Banksy Print Index.ย During last 12 months there has been 314 Banksy prints sold at auction, while during previous period the number was 300. This is only a 5% increase, while same increase last year was >45%. Despite what it may feel like, we are not seeing much more prints flowing to auction. Average print price at auction has also increased from ยฃ23k to 42.5kยฃ, which seems below the value increase of prints, but is likely justified by increased number of lower-end unsigned prints coming to auction. These trends are illustrated below (keep in mind that the data is mapped in periods from September to September to make it comparable to last 12 months). Is the price increaseย unprecedented?We have never seen a 50% month-on-month price increase in Banksy Print Index and we have also never seen a 100% increase year-on-year. However, there are a few situations that have come close: - >10% increases are fairly common month-on-month with strong performance on major auctions, last one being the 14% increase on Sotheby's Online in September 2019
- >50% annual increases have also happened several times:
55% increase in 2017, 60% increase from mid-2014 to mid-2015, 45% increase from mid-2010 to mid-2011ย
Are there differences across prints?ย
There are indeed significant differences in performance across prints. Firstly, signed have clearly outperformed unsigned. The value increase in unsigned has been as far as 2x compared to signed prints. Historically there has never been such separation in value. There has also been separation in performance of different print categories. I have split all prints into high-end and low-end to illustrate this. As high-end I have defined signed with value ยฃ>75k as of September and unsigned with value ยฃ>45k, while other prints fall into low-end. The resulting chart is interesting, as it shows that low-end unsigned have by far outperformed other print segments (e.g. prints like Flags, Napalm and Toxic Mary that were unwanted last year are now selling in ยฃ30k range), while for signed prints the high-end prints have performed better than low-end.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by singyart on Oct 4, 2020 10:12:59 GMT 1, Ed 25 Choose your weapon 135000 ยฃ Very much colour dependent. A khaki sold recently at ยฃ95k. Where and when did that sell? After the gold and silver colours, I would say khaki is one of the best colours and looks amazing. ยฃ95k sounds like a bargain at todayโs banksy valuations.
Ed 25 Choose your weapon 135000 ยฃ Very much colour dependent. A khaki sold recently at ยฃ95k. Where and when did that sell? After the gold and silver colours, I would say khaki is one of the best colours and looks amazing. ยฃ95k sounds like a bargain at todayโs banksy valuations.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by blerd on Oct 4, 2020 10:36:13 GMT 1, Very much colour dependent. A khaki sold recently at ยฃ95k. Where and when did that sell? After the gold and silver colours, I would say khaki is one of the best colours and looks amazing. ยฃ95k sounds like a bargain at todayโs banksy valuations. Khaki and olive have historically traded below the brighter ones.
Very much colour dependent. A khaki sold recently at ยฃ95k. Where and when did that sell? After the gold and silver colours, I would say khaki is one of the best colours and looks amazing. ยฃ95k sounds like a bargain at todayโs banksy valuations. Khaki and olive have historically traded below the brighter ones.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by singyart on Oct 4, 2020 13:41:32 GMT 1, Where and when did that sell? After the gold and silver colours, I would say khaki is one of the best colours and looks amazing. ยฃ95k sounds like a bargain at todayโs banksy valuations. Khaki and olive have historically traded below the brighter ones. Agree, but that was historically. Banksy is far more in demand at the moment and CYW is relatively rare as you donโt see them for sale that often. I donโt think an olive or khaki colour would be worth any less than any other colour now, especially not 2/3rd of the price of another brighter colour as they are all editions of 25 prints. Either the ยฃ95k was quite a while ago or an absolute bargain, I would expect any 25 edition CYW to sell for at least ยฃ150k at the moment.
Where and when did that sell? After the gold and silver colours, I would say khaki is one of the best colours and looks amazing. ยฃ95k sounds like a bargain at todayโs banksy valuations. Khaki and olive have historically traded below the brighter ones. Agree, but that was historically. Banksy is far more in demand at the moment and CYW is relatively rare as you donโt see them for sale that often. I donโt think an olive or khaki colour would be worth any less than any other colour now, especially not 2/3rd of the price of another brighter colour as they are all editions of 25 prints. Either the ยฃ95k was quite a while ago or an absolute bargain, I would expect any 25 edition CYW to sell for at least ยฃ150k at the moment.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Sundowner on Oct 4, 2020 13:52:09 GMT 1, Khaki and olive have historically traded below the brighter ones. Agree, but that was historically. Banksy is far more in demand at the moment and Choose Your Weapon is relatively rare as you donโt see them for sale that often. I donโt think an olive or khaki colour would be worth any less than any other colour now, especially not 2/3rd of the price of another brighter colour as they are all editions of 25 prints. Either the ยฃ95k was quite a while ago or an absolute bargain, I would expect any 25 edition Choose Your Weapon to sell for at least ยฃ150k at the moment. It was two weeks ago and I bought it (and yes it was cheap).....
Khaki and olive have historically traded below the brighter ones. Agree, but that was historically. Banksy is far more in demand at the moment and Choose Your Weapon is relatively rare as you donโt see them for sale that often. I donโt think an olive or khaki colour would be worth any less than any other colour now, especially not 2/3rd of the price of another brighter colour as they are all editions of 25 prints. Either the ยฃ95k was quite a while ago or an absolute bargain, I would expect any 25 edition Choose Your Weapon to sell for at least ยฃ150k at the moment. It was two weeks ago and I bought it (and yes it was cheap).....
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by singyart on Oct 4, 2020 14:37:28 GMT 1, Agree, but that was historically. Banksy is far more in demand at the moment and Choose Your Weapon is relatively rare as you donโt see them for sale that often. I donโt think an olive or khaki colour would be worth any less than any other colour now, especially not 2/3rd of the price of another brighter colour as they are all editions of 25 prints. Either the ยฃ95k was quite a while ago or an absolute bargain, I would expect any 25 edition Choose Your Weapon to sell for at least ยฃ150k at the moment. It was two weeks ago and I bought it (and yes it was cheap)..... Congrats on the purchase, great print and great colour, they look great in Khaki and being neutral in colour they look good in most homes on the wall.
I wouldnโt call it cheap, but definitely a great price compared to where the market is currently and how rarely these come up for sale. Wouldnโt be surprised if it more than doubles in price over the next 12 to 18 months.
Agree, but that was historically. Banksy is far more in demand at the moment and Choose Your Weapon is relatively rare as you donโt see them for sale that often. I donโt think an olive or khaki colour would be worth any less than any other colour now, especially not 2/3rd of the price of another brighter colour as they are all editions of 25 prints. Either the ยฃ95k was quite a while ago or an absolute bargain, I would expect any 25 edition Choose Your Weapon to sell for at least ยฃ150k at the moment. It was two weeks ago and I bought it (and yes it was cheap)..... Congrats on the purchase, great print and great colour, they look great in Khaki and being neutral in colour they look good in most homes on the wall. I wouldnโt call it cheap, but definitely a great price compared to where the market is currently and how rarely these come up for sale. Wouldnโt be surprised if it more than doubles in price over the next 12 to 18 months.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by jp226 on Oct 5, 2020 7:42:20 GMT 1, What unsigned prints are available in the $30-$35K USD range?
What unsigned prints are available in the $30-$35K USD range?
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by fusion0001 on Oct 5, 2020 7:45:23 GMT 1, What unsigned prints are available in the $30-$35K USD range?
There is really nothing under 36-39k USD unless you are looking at prints with condition issues. Your best shot would be Flag or WSM
What unsigned prints are available in the $30-$35K USD range? There is really nothing under 36-39k USD unless you are looking at prints with condition issues. Your best shot would be Flag or WSM
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by jp226 on Oct 5, 2020 7:47:23 GMT 1, What unsigned prints are available in the $30-$35K USD range? There is really nothing under 36-39k USD unless you are looking at prints with condition issues. Your best shot would be Flag or WSM Yeah, I thought flags for sure. If anyone is selling DM me.
What unsigned prints are available in the $30-$35K USD range? There is really nothing under 36-39k USD unless you are looking at prints with condition issues. Your best shot would be Flag or WSM Yeah, I thought flags for sure. If anyone is selling DM me.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Unica on Oct 5, 2020 8:11:20 GMT 1, There is really nothing under 36-39k USD unless you are looking at prints with condition issues. Your best shot would be Flag or WSM Yeah, I thought flags for sure. If anyone is selling DM me. I've seen quite a few for sale on this forum and a nice one on ebay
There is really nothing under 36-39k USD unless you are looking at prints with condition issues. Your best shot would be Flag or WSM Yeah, I thought flags for sure. If anyone is selling DM me. I've seen quite a few for sale on this forum and a nice one on ebay
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by artdelight on Oct 5, 2020 10:23:25 GMT 1, What unsigned prints are available in the $30-$35K USD range?
Toxic Mary, Napalm, middle england.
What unsigned prints are available in the $30-$35K USD range? Toxic Mary, Napalm, middle england.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by lv90210 on Oct 5, 2020 10:48:58 GMT 1, What unsigned prints are available in the $30-$35K USD range?
I would say zero, not sure you would get a flags that isnโt battered in that price range.
Go back to your piggy bank and dig deeper.
What unsigned prints are available in the $30-$35K USD range? I would say zero, not sure you would get a flags that isnโt battered in that price range. Go back to your piggy bank and dig deeper.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Spenie on Oct 5, 2020 14:21:49 GMT 1, What unsigned prints are available in the $30-$35K USD range? I would say zero, not sure you would get a flags that isnโt battered in that price range. Go back to your piggy bank and dig deeper. Should have added sweetheart, sound even more condesending.
What unsigned prints are available in the $30-$35K USD range? I would say zero, not sure you would get a flags that isnโt battered in that price range. Go back to your piggy bank and dig deeper. Should have added sweetheart, sound even more condesending.
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jp226
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by jp226 on Oct 5, 2020 16:52:13 GMT 1, I would say zero, not sure you would get a flags that isnโt battered in that price range. Go back to your piggy bank and dig deeper. Should have added sweetheart, sound even more condesending. I mean, you're talking to IV.... he's the hypebeast king of the forums.
I would say zero, not sure you would get a flags that isnโt battered in that price range. Go back to your piggy bank and dig deeper. Should have added sweetheart, sound even more condesending. I mean, you're talking to IV.... he's the hypebeast king of the forums.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by joglu on Oct 6, 2020 19:10:39 GMT 1, So what are the current paid prices for the bristol museum show posters, excluding monkey parliament? Stored flat like new
So what are the current paid prices for the bristol museum show posters, excluding monkey parliament? Stored flat like new
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Foolsgold on Oct 6, 2020 20:55:11 GMT 1, So what are the current paid prices for the bristol museum show posters, excluding monkey parliament? Stored flat like new
I sold my set of minters for ยฃ500 in April....reckon they're probably worth double that now.
So what are the current paid prices for the bristol museum show posters, excluding monkey parliament? Stored flat like new I sold my set of minters for ยฃ500 in April....reckon they're probably worth double that now.
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by cest on Oct 7, 2020 2:43:45 GMT 1, What unsigned prints are available in the $30-$35K USD range? Toxic Mary, Napalm, middle england.
Wsm
What unsigned prints are available in the $30-$35K USD range? Toxic Mary, Napalm, middle england. Wsm
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by Jeezuz Jones Snr on Oct 7, 2020 3:54:44 GMT 1, Hi guys
I am looking to sell my chocolate donuts signed print, I am based in Australia, hopefully sell privately and not through auction. It has been a bit crazy of late with prices and what's the thoughts on current value on chocolate donuts?.
I searched the forum and found a post that 'hang up' sold one for 60k pounds, any others sold recently?
Thanks
Hi guys
I am looking to sell my chocolate donuts signed print, I am based in Australia, hopefully sell privately and not through auction. It has been a bit crazy of late with prices and what's the thoughts on current value on chocolate donuts?.
I searched the forum and found a post that 'hang up' sold one for 60k pounds, any others sold recently?
Thanks
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Banksy Artwork, VALUATION, by artdelight on Oct 7, 2020 5:22:37 GMT 1, So what are the current paid prices for the bristol museum show posters, excluding monkey parliament? Stored flat like new
1300 ยฃ each piece
So what are the current paid prices for the bristol museum show posters, excluding monkey parliament? Stored flat like new 1300 ยฃ each piece
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