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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by geranio on Jun 2, 2021 20:34:23 GMT 1, Hello, i've bought some Keith Haring serigraphies, with Keith Haring foundation seal, in velin paper 70x50cm 150 units numbered limited edition. I know they are "after", anyway, I would like to know the value, thanks.
Hello, i've bought some Keith Haring serigraphies, with Keith Haring foundation seal, in velin paper 70x50cm 150 units numbered limited edition. I know they are "after", anyway, I would like to know the value, thanks.
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by Sixty Bells on Sept 22, 2021 15:02:02 GMT 1,
Are these not still available from source?
Are these not still available from source?
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by Masong on Sept 22, 2021 15:10:09 GMT 1, Are these not still available from source?
Quite possibly if you contact them direct. I thought they were over ยฃ400 now and they must be running out of good condition ones. Just thought the one on eBay was a possible good deal. Anywhere around the ยฃ400 mark is a good deal for these. Mines on the wall and they look great.
Are these not still available from source? Quite possibly if you contact them direct. I thought they were over ยฃ400 now and they must be running out of good condition ones. Just thought the one on eBay was a possible good deal. Anywhere around the ยฃ400 mark is a good deal for these. Mines on the wall and they look great.
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by Sam Am on Oct 20, 2021 18:46:03 GMT 1, Went pumpkin picking. (Yes Early)
Went pumpkin picking. (Yes Early)
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by stuckeyc on Nov 4, 2021 0:41:35 GMT 1, Been offered a haring baby drawing from someone who met keith on the streets of nyc in the 88. Thoughts on a fair price
Been offered a haring baby drawing from someone who met keith on the streets of nyc in the 88. Thoughts on a fair price
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by stuckeyc on Nov 19, 2021 15:06:48 GMT 1, Been offered a haring baby drawing from someone who met keith on the streets of nyc in the 88. Thoughts on a fair price
Anyone?
Been offered a haring baby drawing from someone who met keith on the streets of nyc in the 88. Thoughts on a fair price Anyone?
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by shaneray on Nov 19, 2021 17:10:22 GMT 1, Been offered a haring baby drawing from someone who met keith on the streets of nyc in the 88. Thoughts on a fair price
Iโd steer clear of any original works not obtained through Martin Lawrence Gallery. IMO
Been offered a haring baby drawing from someone who met keith on the streets of nyc in the 88. Thoughts on a fair price Iโd steer clear of any original works not obtained through Martin Lawrence Gallery. IMO
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by stuckeyc on Nov 19, 2021 17:13:13 GMT 1, I am certain it is legit. So working under that assumption anybody have a fair price?
I am certain it is legit. So working under that assumption anybody have a fair price?
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by shaneray on Nov 19, 2021 17:18:29 GMT 1, I am certain it is legit. So working under that assumption anybody have a fair price?
LJCal would probably be the best to answer, seems to have the best knowledge of Haring Prices and Works imo.
I am certain it is legit. So working under that assumption anybody have a fair price? LJCal would probably be the best to answer, seems to have the best knowledge of Haring Prices and Works imo.
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by met on Nov 28, 2021 22:18:25 GMT 1, Been offered a haring baby drawing from someone who met keith on the streets of nyc in the 88. Thoughts on a fair price Been offered a haring baby drawing from someone who met keith on the streets of nyc in the 88. Thoughts on a fair price Anyone?Been offered a haring baby drawing from someone who met keith on the streets of nyc in the 88. Thoughts on a fair price Iโd steer clear of any original works not obtained through Martin Lawrence Gallery. IMO I am certain it is legit. So working under that assumption anybody have a fair price?
Your question cannot be properly considered in isolation, or directly replied to โ because the answer would first require knowing additional details, which have thus far been left undisclosed.
In addition, I would posit that you are working under the wrong assumption.
__________
As a quick preface, the focus of this post excludes safer-bet items like Keith Haring's widely-recognised limited editions, and works previously given the nod by the Keith Haring Foundation's authentication committee before it was dissolved in 2012.
__________
For collectors of genuine artworks, the Haring market is exceptionally high-risk due to a massive prevalence of fakes. And "massive" is no overstatement. The counterfeiting industry with Haring has long been fuelled by his unremitting popularity, his art-world status, the resulting great demand for his works, and therefore the high prices they command.
Great demand and high prices tick the Motive box. Not just for counterfeiters, but for their art-world enablers and facilitators too โ the corrupt sellers and resellers, whether they be collector-individuals or institutions, dealers, gallerists, or auction-house staff.
Moreover, with:
(i) his cartoon style being so deliberately basic, i.e. easy to replicate; and
(ii) his preferred art materials (acrylic, chalk, marker, pen and pencil) being so readily accessible, familiar, and simple to master,
Keith Haring could well be the most faked artist on the planet. He is a regular favourite of professional fraudsters, as well as hordes of amateur opportunistic ones.
Easily-copied style and readily-accessible art materials tick both the Means and Opportunity boxes, for just about the entire population.
To illustrate, if given 72 hours to practice the requisite arm and hand-flow techniques, execution speed, and application pressure, I am confident that I myself could produce signed fakes convincing enough to dupe a frightening number of Keith Haring collectors, let alone novice Haring enthusiasts.
In fact, 10-year-old schoolchildren in art class might also achieve reasonable success with this exercise.
And based on years-long, casual but regular observations of the market, my completely unscientific assessment would be that less than 1% of unauthenticated purported Harings which come up for sale on various platforms are actually genuine.
Show me, for example, an auction house that repeatedly sells unauthenticated Harings, and I'll show you one where it's a near-certainty the directors, specialists, or other decision-makers are corrupt scumbags. They will have made the conscious decision to turn a blind eye, prioritise profits over probity, and defraud the more ignorant among their own buyer-clients.
Either that, or those decision-makers are seriously incompetent and naive, but to a degree that is truly incredible. A degree that stretches credulity. In other words, if such auction-house professionals really do exist, then they must surely fall within the hyper-exclusive target market of fight attendants who tell us how to put on our seatbelts.
__________
This was a longwinded way of saying that, for an unauthenticated Haring, there can be no guesstimate as to what constitutes a "fair price" without first evaluating the strength of the seller's evidence in support of authenticity and provenance.
If there is, say, accompanying video footage or a photograph of Haring actually drawing the work, or taken immediately afterwards (e.g. showing Haring and the seller holding up the drawing), then things do become interesting.
Perhaps less-strong but still-compelling evidence could in some cases include the seller having a verifiably-documented professional or personal relationship with Haring.
Provided this evidentiary prerequisite has been satisfied, other factors relating to the work can then be considered, including:
(i) whether or not signed and dated;
(ii) size (e.g. small doodle vs larger drawing on US Letter-sized paper);
(iii) specific medium (e.g. ballpoint pen vs thin marker vs wide chisel-tip marker);
(iv) historical or other interest that the substrate may hold (e.g. a drawing on a gallery show card, receipt, restaurant napkin, dollar bill, etc. โ especially if the substrate has some connection with the artist, and/or the location where or timeframe when the drawing was purportedly created);
(v) quality of the drawing, its visual appeal, and the apparent care taken during its execution; and
(vi) condition of the drawing.
However, in absence of any objectively-persuasive evidence of authenticity and provenance being offered by the seller (as I suspect is the case in your situation), for the reasons expressed above, I would value the drawing at $0.00. Or possibly a negative sum, given the opportunity costs involved in taking the time to consider the purchase.
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Regarding your certainty that the drawing is legitimate, that could well influence its personal value to you, and the price you might be willing to pay. Sentimental factors may increase that price level too. For example, if the seller happens to be a family member or an old friend of yours.
But none of this has significant relevance to the drawing's market value โ which is what you appear to be asking for guidance on.
Market value is just another term for resale value. And you knowing that an artwork is genuine matters little, unless you can also prove it (on the balance of probabilities, if not beyond a reasonable doubt) to the next buyer down the chain.
Without credible evidence, your pool of future potential buyers would pretty much be restricted to:
(a) the tragically ignorant or stupid (in other words, the kind of vulnerable collectors each of us has the choice of either exploiting or not); and
(b) anyone who, rather amazingly, is privy to documents or other information supporting authenticity and provenance, which not even your seller currently has access to.
Been offered a haring baby drawing from someone who met keith on the streets of nyc in the 88. Thoughts on a fair price Been offered a haring baby drawing from someone who met keith on the streets of nyc in the 88. Thoughts on a fair price Anyone?Been offered a haring baby drawing from someone who met keith on the streets of nyc in the 88. Thoughts on a fair price Iโd steer clear of any original works not obtained through Martin Lawrence Gallery. IMO I am certain it is legit. So working under that assumption anybody have a fair price? Your question cannot be properly considered in isolation, or directly replied to โ because the answer would first require knowing additional details, which have thus far been left undisclosed. In addition, I would posit that you are working under the wrong assumption. __________ As a quick preface, the focus of this post excludes safer-bet items like Keith Haring's widely-recognised limited editions, and works previously given the nod by the Keith Har ing Foundation's authentication committee before it was dissolved in 2012. __________ For collectors of genuine artworks, the Haring market is exceptionally high-risk due to a massive prevalence of fakes. And "massive" is no overstatement. The counterfeiting industry with Har ing has long been fuelled by his unremitting popularity, his art-world status, the resulting great demand for his works, and therefore the high prices they command. Great demand and high prices tick the Motive box. Not just for counterfeiters, but for their art-world enablers and facilitators too โ the corrupt sellers and resellers, whether they be collector-individuals or institutions, dealers, gallerists, or auction-house staff. Moreover, with: (i) his cartoon style being so deliberately basic, i.e. easy to replicate; and (ii) his preferred art materials (acrylic, chalk, marker, pen and pencil) being so readily accessible, familiar, and simple to master, Keith Har ing could well be the most faked artist on the planet. He is a regular favourite of professional fraudsters, as well as hordes of amateur opportunistic ones. Easily-copied style and readily-accessible art materials tick both the Means and Opportunity boxes, for just about the entire population. To illustrate, if given 72 hours to practice the requisite arm and hand-flow techniques, execution speed, and application pressure, I am confident that I myself could produce signed fakes convincing enough to dupe a frightening number of Keith Har ing collectors, let alone novice Har ing enthusiasts. In fact, 10-year-old schoolchildren in art class might also achieve reasonable success with this exercise. And based on years-long, casual but regular observations of the market, my completely unscientific assessment would be that less than 1% of unauthenticated purported Har ings which come up for sale on various platforms are actually genuine. Show me, for example, an auction house that repeatedly sells unauthenticated Har ings, and I'll show you one where it's a near-certainty the directors, specialists, or other decision-makers are corrupt scumbags. They will have made the conscious decision to turn a blind eye, prioritise profits over probity, and defraud the more ignorant among their own buyer-clients. Either that, or those decision-makers are seriously incompetent and naive, but to a degree that is truly incredible. A degree that stretches credulity. In other words, if such auction-house professionals really do exist, then they must surely fall within the hyper-exclusive target market of fight attendants who tell us how to put on our seatbelts. __________ This was a longwinded way of saying that, for an unauthenticated Har ing, there can be no guesstimate as to what constitutes a "fair price" without first evaluating the strength of the seller's evidence in support of authenticity and provenance. If there is, say, accompanying video footage or a photograph of Har ing actually drawing the work, or taken immediately afterwards (e.g. showing Har ing and the seller holding up the drawing), then things do become interesting. Perhaps less-strong but still-compelling evidence could in some cases include the seller having a verifiably-documented professional or personal relationship with Har ing. Provided this evidentiary prerequisite has been satisfied, other factors relating to the work can then be considered, including: (i) whether or not signed and dated; (ii) size (e.g. small doodle vs larger drawing on US Letter-sized paper); (iii) specific medium (e.g. ballpoint pen vs thin marker vs wide chisel-tip marker); (iv) historical or other interest that the substrate may hold (e.g. a drawing on a gallery show card, receipt, restaurant napkin, dollar bill, etc. โ especially if the substrate has some connection with the artist, and/or the location where or timeframe when the drawing was purportedly created); (v) quality of the drawing, its visual appeal, and the apparent care taken during its execution; and (vi) condition of the drawing. However, in absence of any objectively-persuasive evidence of authenticity and provenance being offered by the seller (as I suspect is the case in your situation), for the reasons expressed above, I would value the drawing at $0.00. Or possibly a negative sum, given the opportunity costs involved in taking the time to consider the purchase. __________ Regarding your certainty that the drawing is legitimate, that could well influence its personal value to you, and the price you might be willing to pay. Sentimental factors may increase that price level too. For example, if the seller happens to be a family member or an old friend of yours. But none of this has significant relevance to the drawing's market value โ which is what you appear to be asking for guidance on. Market value is just another term for resale value. And you knowing that an artwork is genuine matters little, unless you can also prove it (on the balance of probabilities, if not beyond a reasonable doubt) to the next buyer down the chain. Without credible evidence, your pool of future potential buyers would pretty much be restricted to: (a) the tragically ignorant or stupid (in other words, the kind of vulnerable collectors each of us has the choice of either exploiting or not); and (b) anyone who, rather amazingly, is privy to documents or other information supporting authenticity and provenance, which not even your seller currently has access to.
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by zeff66 on Mar 22, 2022 12:29:23 GMT 1, Looking for a Haring Silence Equals Death 1989
Looking for a Haring Silence Equals Death 1989
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by Someone Like You on Mar 23, 2022 18:59:30 GMT 1, Hello someone have for sell Keith Haring 1983 published by Lucio Amelio, Napoli, Italy full set? Thanks
Hello someone have for sell Keith Haring 1983 published by Lucio Amelio, Napoli, Italy full set? Thanks
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by Sam Am on May 14, 2022 14:21:26 GMT 1, Afternoon all. Off to NYC again today, does anyone know if this is still in existence ? Thanks !
Afternoon all. Off to NYC again today, does anyone know if this is still in existence ? Thanks !
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by Lunch Special on May 14, 2022 14:23:49 GMT 1, Afternoon all. ย Off to NYC again today, does anyone know if this is still in existence ? Thanks !ย
Was under construction as of recently. Might be done.
Where you heading?
Afternoon all. ย Off to NYC again today, does anyone know if this is still in existence ? Thanks !ย Was under construction as of recently. Might be done. Where you heading?
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by yomike888 on Jul 27, 2022 20:27:45 GMT 1, Hi! Mike here from Hamilton-Selway Fine Art. I am interested in your Icons suite. How much? Thank you
Mike
Hi! Mike here from Hamilton-Selway Fine Art. I am interested in your Icons suite. How much? Thank you
Mike
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by concrete jungle on Jul 27, 2022 23:40:32 GMT 1, Hi! Mike here from Hamilton-Selway Fine Art. I am interested in your Icons suite. How much? Thank you Mike If you check the posts, the Icons suite sales were from over 5 years ago. Long gone Iโd guess tbhโฆ..
Hi! Mike here from Hamilton-Selway Fine Art. I am interested in your Icons suite. How much? Thank you Mike If you check the posts, the Icons suite sales were from over 5 years ago. Long gone Iโd guess tbhโฆ..
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by weymesworld on Aug 6, 2022 10:35:57 GMT 1, hi. I have a hand written letter from KH in response to a fan letter I wrote to him shortly before he died. Itโs got a cute drawing of a plane on the handwritten envelope , and the letter is on his own headed notepaper.. any idea of its value ?
hi. I have a hand written letter from KH in response to a fan letter I wrote to him shortly before he died. Itโs got a cute drawing of a plane on the handwritten envelope , and the letter is on his own headed notepaper.. any idea of its value ?
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by sejoh on Feb 7, 2023 17:21:05 GMT 1, sold
sold
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by LJCal on Oct 27, 2023 0:47:21 GMT 1, Had this a while but just reframed, my favourite series of his. I have a couple from the series if anyone is looking to buy.
Had this a while but just reframed, my favourite series of his. I have a couple from the series if anyone is looking to buy.
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by begs on Oct 27, 2023 13:22:29 GMT 1, I am looking to purchase my first works ,can you please Pm me with images of what your selling and price please
I am looking to purchase my first works ,can you please Pm me with images of what your selling and price please
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by Onket on Feb 27, 2024 15:57:27 GMT 1, Any more examples of a framed Watari poster, please? I'm sure I saw one somewhere which had picked out the red/pink in the spacer.
Any more examples of a framed Watari poster, please? I'm sure I saw one somewhere which had picked out the red/pink in the spacer.
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by treweman on Feb 27, 2024 17:10:15 GMT 1, Can we have a look at your OG piece please.. would be great to see. As a collector who owns a Haring OG (well, I think I do ๐), I would suggest that provenance is a significant issue. Keith was known to be very generous with his time, but much (most?) of what he signed has no formal provenance. Everyoneโs favorite, eBay, has claimed that Haring is one of the five artists with the most fakes available for sale. Given market prices, I canโt recommend that new collectors rush out to acquire one of Keithโs pieces without doing considerable research first, and maybe without getting expert help in the purchasing process. In short, prices and provenance are serious barriers to entry. Five years later, I respond โฆ
Can we have a look at your OG piece please.. would be great to see. As a collector who owns a Haring OG (well, I think I do ๐), I would suggest that provenance is a significant issue. Keith was known to be very generous with his time, but much (most?) of what he signed has no formal provenance. Everyoneโs favorite, eBay, has claimed that Haring is one of the five artists with the most fakes available for sale. Given market prices, I canโt recommend that new collectors rush out to acquire one of Keithโs pieces without doing considerable research first, and maybe without getting expert help in the purchasing process. In short, prices and provenance are serious barriers to entry. Five years later, I respond โฆ
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by treweman on Feb 27, 2024 17:12:22 GMT 1,
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by Bendy Man on Feb 27, 2024 17:39:54 GMT 1, Any more examples of a framed Watari poster, please? I'm sure I saw one somewhere which had picked out the red/pink in the spacer.
Any more examples of a framed Watari poster, please? I'm sure I saw one somewhere which had picked out the red/pink in the spacer.
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by radarrat on Apr 26, 2024 12:21:30 GMT 1, Looking for Keith haring Against All Odds book Thank you
Looking for Keith haring Against All Odds book Thank you
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by Daniel Silk on Jul 25, 2024 14:52:50 GMT 1,
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Keith Haring ๐บ๐ธ Pop Art โข New York Graffiti, by tapesta on Jul 25, 2024 20:22:51 GMT 1, I am investigating a Haring canvas signed in 87.
Any experts on here who can help?
I am investigating a Haring canvas signed in 87.
Any experts on here who can help?
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