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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by Flashback on Nov 10, 2017 18:35:49 GMT 1, Unfortunately this is now typical, and seems to be acceptable by the wealth of flippers operating on here. Came across the following link earlier when looking for a miss universe print online; thesilverforum.com/topic/9037-flipping-art-easy-money/Even quotes these forums on it and recommends people to grab the Invader release. So frustrating! Fortunately his Roamcouch flip won't be worth anything as much of a fan as I am of his work the secondary demand seems limited.
Unfortunately this is now typical, and seems to be acceptable by the wealth of flippers operating on here. Came across the following link earlier when looking for a miss universe print online; thesilverforum.com/topic/9037-flipping-art-easy-money/Even quotes these forums on it and recommends people to grab the Invader release. So frustrating! Fortunately his Roamcouch flip won't be worth anything as much of a fan as I am of his work the secondary demand seems limited. If it's just about the investment for him, it doesn't make much sense to tell more people about buying a limited item therefore decreasing his chances. |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by Theories 123 on Nov 10, 2017 18:50:05 GMT 1, Came across the following link earlier when looking for a miss universe print online; thesilverforum.com/topic/9037-flipping-art-easy-money/Even quotes these forums on it and recommends people to grab the Invader release. So frustrating! Fortunately his Roamcouch flip won't be worth anything as much of a fan as I am of his work the secondary demand seems limited. If it's just about the investment for him, it doesn't make much sense to tell more people about buying a limited item therefore decreasing his chances.
True, but I guess it gains him popularity amongst members on that forum. I imagine most of their money making schemes require a good network of people.
Came across the following link earlier when looking for a miss universe print online; thesilverforum.com/topic/9037-flipping-art-easy-money/Even quotes these forums on it and recommends people to grab the Invader release. So frustrating! Fortunately his Roamcouch flip won't be worth anything as much of a fan as I am of his work the secondary demand seems limited. If it's just about the investment for him, it doesn't make much sense to tell more people about buying a limited item therefore decreasing his chances. True, but I guess it gains him popularity amongst members on that forum. I imagine most of their money making schemes require a good network of people. |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by Masong on Nov 10, 2017 18:51:41 GMT 1, Unfortunately this is now typical, and seems to be acceptable by the wealth of flippers operating on here. Came across the following link earlier when looking for a miss universe print online; thesilverforum.com/topic/9037-flipping-art-easy-money/Even quotes these forums on it and recommends people to grab the Invader release. So frustrating! Fortunately his Roamcouch flip won't be worth anything as much of a fan as I am of his work the secondary demand seems limited.
Heβs massively overpriced those Miss Universe prints. I had the gold and struggled to sell it. Got less than a third of what he reckons. Iβve still got a silver and there is no way itβs worth 3k
Unfortunately this is now typical, and seems to be acceptable by the wealth of flippers operating on here. Came across the following link earlier when looking for a miss universe print online; thesilverforum.com/topic/9037-flipping-art-easy-money/Even quotes these forums on it and recommends people to grab the Invader release. So frustrating! Fortunately his Roamcouch flip won't be worth anything as much of a fan as I am of his work the secondary demand seems limited. Heβs massively overpriced those Miss Universe prints. I had the gold and struggled to sell it. Got less than a third of what he reckons. Iβve still got a silver and there is no way itβs worth 3k |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 10, 2017 19:19:12 GMT 1, True, but I guess it gains him popularity amongst members on that forum. I imagine most of their money making schemes require a good network of people. ask him markj113 Hows the flipping going?
True, but I guess it gains him popularity amongst members on that forum. I imagine most of their money making schemes require a good network of people. ask him markj113 Hows the flipping going? Nice he's been outed! markj113 - I for one will never buy or interact with you! |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 10, 2017 22:31:53 GMT 1, Been outed lol. I have bought quite a few prints and sold some for a profit most of which was then spent on other prints. Really dont care if that upsets you or not. Currently have a small house and the room I have to display framed pieces is utilised, other prints are currently stored in a portfolio for when I get a larger house. The miss universe is also hanging proudly in my living room and I have no intention of selling as everyone comments its the spitting image of my daughter. @oxfordwelshchap ill cry myself to sleep tonight at the lack of your future interaction
By the way you need to quote me if you want me to see your hilarious responses... its such a shame the mods have no guts to ban you though.
Been outed lol. I have bought quite a few prints and sold some for a profit most of which was then spent on other prints. Really dont care if that upsets you or not. Currently have a small house and the room I have to display framed pieces is utilised, other prints are currently stored in a portfolio for when I get a larger house. The miss universe is also hanging proudly in my living room and I have no intention of selling as everyone comments its the spitting image of my daughter. @oxfordwelshchap ill cry myself to sleep tonight at the lack of your future interaction I am sure you will cry yourself to sleep. A bit pathetic if you ask me, having to explain your flipping ways having been found commenting on us on the forum to your money grabbing friends elsewhere. Others will no doubt take note. By the way you need to quote me if you want me to see your hilarious responses... its such a shame the mods have no guts to ban you though. |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 10, 2017 22:41:18 GMT 1, Banned for what exactly? Please point out the forum rules I have broken or are you just a butt hurt price nazi.
Banned for what exactly? Please point out the forum rules I have broken or are you just a butt hurt price nazi. Nar I can't be bothered to be honest, I'm not a stickler for rules just a bit fed up of cocksuckers like you... |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 10, 2017 22:49:28 GMT 1, You cant be bothered as you have nothing to back your threats or abusive language. If you think something is too expensive dont buy it, its that simple. In a free market demand dictates price and I have paid over release price for several pieces but dont whine about it.
You cant be bothered as you have nothing to back your threats or abusive language. If you think something is too expensive dont buy it, its that simple. In a free market demand dictates price and I have paid over release price for several pieces but dont whine about it. lol such a funny little chap. I wouldn't buy from a flipper like you. You ll get abuse as long as you leech from others. Your the epitome of everything that is now wrong with this art forum. As I said earlier its such a shame the moderators can't get rid of you. |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 10, 2017 22:59:32 GMT 1, You cant grasp I really dont care what you think. Perhaps they should ban you abusive and aggressive off topic posting? I have nothing to do with this thread or the op so not sure why I was dragged into this in the first place.
You cant grasp I really dont care what you think. Perhaps they should ban you abusive and aggressive off topic posting? I have nothing to do with this thread or the op so not sure why I was dragged into this in the first place. If you don't care why do you keep responding. If your so worried maybe shut up? You were dragged in as you were exposed as trying to take advantage of members of this forum, talking to your buddies about abusing and taking advantage of us by buying art meant for collectors and putting the markj and co premium on it. I will always take people like you to task. I couldn't care less what you say or think, true collectors are fed up of you... |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 10, 2017 23:11:49 GMT 1, So every print that is currently listed on ebay, here or in a gallery that is for sale above release price is abusing you and other members of this forum. Or do you get to choose who can and cant sell for a profit and by what % ? Get a life you pathetic little snowflake, go crawl back into your safe place.
Oh there is no need to get your second persona mrcharm to like your comments, no one is watching...
So every print that is currently listed on ebay, here or in a gallery that is for sale above release price is abusing you and other members of this forum. Or do you get to choose who can and cant sell for a profit and by what % ? Get a life you pathetic little snowflake, go crawl back into your safe place. Oh I'm in my safe place, although I feel safe anywhere to be honest. I can enjoy this all night long. As for snowflake, that little english insult is hilarious. You sure your not a politician? Oh there is no need to get your second persona mrcharm to like your comments, no one is watching... |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 10, 2017 23:14:52 GMT 1, Congrats on making a comment without addressing a single point I made in the above post. Sure you aren't a politician?
Ah the edit function - useful when you know how.
Congrats on making a comment without addressing a single point I made in the above post. Sure you aren't a politician? What points did you make? That your a flipper trying to explain away your predatory behaviour by explaining that... 'but others on eBay do it' Ah the edit function - useful when you know how. |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 10, 2017 23:18:51 GMT 1, Yes, and... whats your point?
Yes, and... whats your point?
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by chevyav53 on Nov 10, 2017 23:19:04 GMT 1, 
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 10, 2017 23:19:29 GMT 1, or does your second profile need to comment?
or does your second profile need to comment?
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 10, 2017 23:21:05 GMT 1, yes, and?
yes, and?
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by Express Post on Nov 10, 2017 23:22:21 GMT 1, So every print that is currently listed on ebay, here or in a gallery that is for sale above release price is abusing you and other members of this forum. Or do you get to choose who can and cant sell for a profit and by what % ? Get a life you pathetic little snowflake, go crawl back into your safe place.
I think it has something to do with transparency. You say some things on the silver forum that have rubbed people up the wrong way.
You just got called out on your true intentions for being here. If the other sellers were identified, they'd probably get the same treatment.
So every print that is currently listed on ebay, here or in a gallery that is for sale above release price is abusing you and other members of this forum. Or do you get to choose who can and cant sell for a profit and by what % ? Get a life you pathetic little snowflake, go crawl back into your safe place. I think it has something to do with transparency. You say some things on the silver forum that have rubbed people up the wrong way. You just got called out on your true intentions for being here. If the other sellers were identified, they'd probably get the same treatment. |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 10, 2017 23:22:29 GMT 1, Oh don't worry little mark I have already checked that Im only messing with you as it annoys you...
Oh don't worry little mark I have already checked that Im only messing with you as it annoys you...
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 10, 2017 23:23:35 GMT 1, Oh I'm sure my IQ is very low, thats why I'm into street art
Oh I'm sure my IQ is very low, thats why I'm into street art
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 10, 2017 23:24:27 GMT 1, Oh gosh that would really annoy me please please don't do that...
Oh gosh that would really annoy me please please don't do that...
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by Express Post on Nov 10, 2017 23:26:02 GMT 1, Please take this to PM.
Apart from the gladiatorial spectacle, it is clogging up the 'latest posts'.
Please take this to PM.
Apart from the gladiatorial spectacle, it is clogging up the 'latest posts'.
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 10, 2017 23:28:05 GMT 1, Please take this to PM. Apart from the gladiatorial spectacle, it is clogging up the 'latest posts'.
Please take this to PM. Apart from the gladiatorial spectacle, it is clogging up the 'latest posts'. This is a fair point. I would love to continue this in PM and expresspost has a valid point markj this is using up the time of true collectors. |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by Express Post on Nov 10, 2017 23:29:42 GMT 1, I think it has something to do with transparency. You say some things on the silver forum that have rubbed people up the wrong way. You just got called out on your true intentions for being here. If the other sellers were identified, they'd probably get the same treatment. I posted it on a silver forum as there is a section on how people generate income from other methods to invest the money in precious metals.Β I have made money selling prints so added the information. If you would like me to make a post here on how to generate money from precious metals so you can buy prints I am happy to do so and im sure there wont be a similar thread to this on the silver forum cursing me lol.
I am genuinely interested in finding out more.
Please start a thread.
I think it has something to do with transparency. You say some things on the silver forum that have rubbed people up the wrong way. You just got called out on your true intentions for being here. If the other sellers were identified, they'd probably get the same treatment. I posted it on a silver forum as there is a section on how people generate income from other methods to invest the money in precious metals.Β I have made money selling prints so added the information. If you would like me to make a post here on how to generate money from precious metals so you can buy prints I am happy to do so and im sure there wont be a similar thread to this on the silver forum cursing me lol. I am genuinely interested in finding out more. Please start a thread. |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by Dive Jedi on Nov 10, 2017 23:31:28 GMT 1, I posted it on a silver forum as there is a section on how people generate income from other methods to invest the money in precious metals. I have made money selling prints so added the information. If you would like me to make a post here on how to generate money from precious metals so you can buy prints I am happy to do so and im sure there wont be a similar thread to this on the silver forum cursing me lol. I am genuinely interested in finding out more. Please start a thread.
Just a thought......
I posted it on a silver forum as there is a section on how people generate income from other methods to invest the money in precious metals. I have made money selling prints so added the information. If you would like me to make a post here on how to generate money from precious metals so you can buy prints I am happy to do so and im sure there wont be a similar thread to this on the silver forum cursing me lol. I am genuinely interested in finding out more. Please start a thread. Maybe you should join the silver forum then. Just a thought...... |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by oxfordwelshchap on Nov 10, 2017 23:32:04 GMT 1, ok a friend has dropped me a PM so i am out of this. Sorry to other members for the ranting.
ok a friend has dropped me a PM so i am out of this. Sorry to other members for the ranting.
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by Express Post on Nov 10, 2017 23:38:27 GMT 1, I am genuinely interested in finding out more. Please start a thread. Maybe you should join the silver forum then. Just a thought......
That move would only serve me and will be selfish.
If Mark can distill it on here, it will be more efficient and benefit more than myself.
I am genuinely interested in finding out more. Please start a thread. Maybe you should join the silver forum then. Just a thought...... That move would only serve me and will be selfish. If Mark can distill it on here, it will be more efficient and benefit more than myself. |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by Dive Jedi on Nov 10, 2017 23:57:56 GMT 1, Maybe you should join the silver forum then. Just a thought...... That move would only serve me and will be selfish. If Mark can distill it on here, it will be more efficient and benefit more than myself.
It's just that this is an art forum. Not a speculation forum.
Nothing wrong with speculation - I'm all for that.
But it will cluther the latest post thread with non-art related posts just like Bitcoins did/does.
Which will be less efficient and not very benificial.
Maybe you should join the silver forum then. Just a thought...... That move would only serve me and will be selfish. If Mark can distill it on here, it will be more efficient and benefit more than myself. Very thoughtful of you. It's just that this is an art forum. Not a speculation forum. Nothing wrong with speculation - I'm all for that. But it will cluther the latest post thread with non-art related posts just like Bitcoins did/does. Which will be less efficient and not very benificial. |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 2:15:33 GMT 1, Just as I don't get someone who would go through the hassle of flipping a print for a couple of 100$, I guess flippers just don't get how it makes someone feel who wants a specific image they absolutely love to hang on their walls, only to have it snagged by someone that has absolutely no interest in the image or the artist itself and sell it at a price they can't logically afford.
I mean, flipping the new Banksy print? Meh, I still hate it, but I could see the merit in filling in your email addy and finding out, a few weeks later, that you just bought a 10k print for $500, from an established artist that presumably doesn't need the money anymore. I own a few Banksy's and as much as I like the images, they are partly investment. I like my Nick Walker - Love Vandal way way way more than all my my Banksy prints combined.
But this? A print from an upcoming artist? Which people actually love and enjoy for what he is and what he creates? Fuck off flipping that shit within a week and leave it to the people actually loving the art.
Just as I don't get someone who would go through the hassle of flipping a print for a couple of 100$, I guess flippers just don't get how it makes someone feel who wants a specific image they absolutely love to hang on their walls, only to have it snagged by someone that has absolutely no interest in the image or the artist itself and sell it at a price they can't logically afford.
I mean, flipping the new Banksy print? Meh, I still hate it, but I could see the merit in filling in your email addy and finding out, a few weeks later, that you just bought a 10k print for $500, from an established artist that presumably doesn't need the money anymore. I own a few Banksy's and as much as I like the images, they are partly investment. I like my Nick Walker - Love Vandal way way way more than all my my Banksy prints combined.
But this? A print from an upcoming artist? Which people actually love and enjoy for what he is and what he creates? Fuck off flipping that shit within a week and leave it to the people actually loving the art.
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by nobokov on Nov 11, 2017 3:05:03 GMT 1, Just as I don't get someone who would go through the hassle of flipping a print for a couple of 100$, I guess flippers just don't get how it makes someone feel who wants a specific image they absolutely love to hang on their walls, only to have it snagged by someone that has absolutely no interest in the image or the artist itself and sell it at a price they can't logically afford. I mean, flipping the new Banksy print? Meh, I still hate it, but I could see the merit in filling in your email addy and finding out, a few weeks later, that you just bought a 10k print for $500, from an established artist that presumably doesn't need the money anymore. I own a few Banksy's and as much as I like the images, they are partly investment. I like my Nick Walker - Love Vandal way way way more than all my my Banksy prints combined. But this? A print from an upcoming artist? Which people actually love and enjoy for what he is and what he creates? f**koff flipping thats**t within a week and leave it to the people actually loving the art.
Just as I don't get someone who would go through the hassle of flipping a print for a couple of 100$, I guess flippers just don't get how it makes someone feel who wants a specific image they absolutely love to hang on their walls, only to have it snagged by someone that has absolutely no interest in the image or the artist itself and sell it at a price they can't logically afford. I mean, flipping the new Banksy print? Meh, I still hate it, but I could see the merit in filling in your email addy and finding out, a few weeks later, that you just bought a 10k print for $500, from an established artist that presumably doesn't need the money anymore. I own a few Banksy's and as much as I like the images, they are partly investment. I like my Nick Walker - Love Vandal way way way more than all my my Banksy prints combined. But this? A print from an upcoming artist? Which people actually love and enjoy for what he is and what he creates? f**koff flipping thats**t within a week and leave it to the people actually loving the art. Is it just me, or does that sound a bit hypocritical? I think that if you're gonna take the anti-flipping stance, wouldn't it make sense to be against all flipping? Or is the problem that their profit margin isn't large enough? |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by Deleted on Nov 11, 2017 3:17:24 GMT 1, Just as I don't get someone who would go through the hassle of flipping a print for a couple of 100$, I guess flippers just don't get how it makes someone feel who wants a specific image they absolutely love to hang on their walls, only to have it snagged by someone that has absolutely no interest in the image or the artist itself and sell it at a price they can't logically afford. I mean, flipping the new Banksy print? Meh, I still hate it, but I could see the merit in filling in your email addy and finding out, a few weeks later, that you just bought a 10k print for $500, from an established artist that presumably doesn't need the money anymore. I own a few Banksy's and as much as I like the images, they are partly investment. I like my Nick Walker - Love Vandal way way way more than all my my Banksy prints combined. But this? A print from an upcoming artist? Which people actually love and enjoy for what he is and what he creates? f**koff flipping thats**t within a week and leave it to the people actually loving the art. Is it just me, or does that sound a bit hypocritical? I think that if you're gonna take the anti-flipping stance, wouldn't it make sense to be against all flipping? Or is the problem that their profit margin isn't large enough?
But morally, I mean come on. There's a fine line somewhere and I strongly believe that flipping prints from emerging artists where people actually have a strong desire to frame and hang the print is over that line.
Just as I don't get someone who would go through the hassle of flipping a print for a couple of 100$, I guess flippers just don't get how it makes someone feel who wants a specific image they absolutely love to hang on their walls, only to have it snagged by someone that has absolutely no interest in the image or the artist itself and sell it at a price they can't logically afford. I mean, flipping the new Banksy print? Meh, I still hate it, but I could see the merit in filling in your email addy and finding out, a few weeks later, that you just bought a 10k print for $500, from an established artist that presumably doesn't need the money anymore. I own a few Banksy's and as much as I like the images, they are partly investment. I like my Nick Walker - Love Vandal way way way more than all my my Banksy prints combined. But this? A print from an upcoming artist? Which people actually love and enjoy for what he is and what he creates? f**koff flipping thats**t within a week and leave it to the people actually loving the art. Is it just me, or does that sound a bit hypocritical? I think that if you're gonna take the anti-flipping stance, wouldn't it make sense to be against all flipping? Or is the problem that their profit margin isn't large enough? To me it's a pretty hard question as I'm pretty much a right wing capitalist kinda guy myself. I believe in property rights, so in a theoretical way I'm fine with people using opportunities to create value for themselves. But morally, I mean come on. There's a fine line somewhere and I strongly believe that flipping prints from emerging artists where people actually have a strong desire to frame and hang the print is over that line. |
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PEZ π«π· Pierre-Yves Riveau β’ New Release β’ Art For Sale, by chevyav53 on Nov 11, 2017 3:27:27 GMT 1, Is this guy even flipping it for more? I thought he said at cost? Offer him cost and mark this as sold.
I too have lost out to prints I wanted. But Iβve also sold some to pay for new ones, sometimes right away as these damn releases come fast these days, so cant hate. But if the secondary market had patience it could get pieces essentially at cost as there are a lot of people trying to flip that are not able to hold onto the art too long. In summary canβt hate someone for trying to make money because if they knocked on your door asking for food because they were hungry youβd probably say F&(#( off or get a job.
Is this guy even flipping it for more? I thought he said at cost? Offer him cost and mark this as sold.
I too have lost out to prints I wanted. But Iβve also sold some to pay for new ones, sometimes right away as these damn releases come fast these days, so cant hate. But if the secondary market had patience it could get pieces essentially at cost as there are a lot of people trying to flip that are not able to hold onto the art too long. In summary canβt hate someone for trying to make money because if they knocked on your door asking for food because they were hungry youβd probably say F&(#( off or get a job.
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