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Curious why no one seems to collect, care or talk about KAN., by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 1:58:08 GMT 1, Can't say I've heard of KAN before. Can't say I like that image either though. I have no desire to have some thug wearing a bandana mid riot staring down at me from the wall. KAN is a member of one of France's most well respected graffiti crews, namely, Da Mental Vaporz (DMV). Da Mental Vaporz is made up of: Dran, Blo, Gris-1, Sowat, Bom-K, Lek, Jaw, and KAN. KAN practices the discipline of Pointillism, which the great French artist Georges Seurat pioneered and mastered in the late 19th century: You can see some of these masterpieces close up in the renowned collection of the Courtauld Gallery at Somerset House, London. KAN also does less politically gritty images, that would be more suitable for hanging at home... Thoroughly recommend checking out his website for images of his process: kandmv.com/ Thanks for the thoughtful post.
I agree the image they / he chose for the PTA print is not typical...and a little try-hard for some street cred. His other images much more beautiful, connected to daily life and the world that people can relate to.
I see the pointillism connection, and for me I see him pursuing a clean, methodical version of what Sigmar Polke did with his fantastic CMYK Rasterbilder paintings. An idea I'm working with myself.
Can't say I've heard of KAN before. Can't say I like that image either though. I have no desire to have some thug wearing a bandana mid riot staring down at me from the wall. KAN is a member of one of France's most well respected graffiti crews, namely, Da Mental Vaporz (DMV). Da Mental Vaporz is made up of: Dran, Blo, Gris-1, Sowat, Bom-K, Lek, Jaw, and KAN. KAN practices the discipline of Pointillism, which the great French artist Georges Seurat pioneered and mastered in the late 19th century: You can see some of these masterpieces close up in the renowned collection of the Courtauld Gallery at Somerset House, London. KAN also does less politically gritty images, that would be more suitable for hanging at home... Thoroughly recommend checking out his website for images of his process: kandmv.com/ Thanks for the thoughtful post. I agree the image they / he chose for the PTA print is not typical...and a little try-hard for some street cred. His other images much more beautiful, connected to daily life and the world that people can relate to. I see the pointillism connection, and for me I see him pursuing a clean, methodical version of what Sigmar Polke did with his fantastic CMYK Rasterbilder paintings. An idea I'm working with myself.
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Curious why no one seems to collect, care or talk about KAN., by Deleted on Nov 4, 2015 2:18:38 GMT 1, Attacking works of other artists who have a following here will not win you or Kan any votes. Unfortunate, but not surprising. We all seek out what supports our own biases and lash out at that which threatens or attacks them. Defense & survival mechanism I guess.
(Doubt KAN sinks or swims based on anything I say.)
I'd be more interested in winning the vote of someone who could teach me what elevates Maya Hayuk's work above mere decoration. Looks like wrapping paper to me; had its turn as the tourist selfie BG in NYC. Good for turning a small profit if you bought prints from source.
I sense no historical, political or theoretical underpinnings to the work...no real depth, no deeper purpose.
I'm a member of places like this Forum to learn, and am happy to be educated. Just learned something good about Seth from this very post.
Thanks.
Attacking works of other artists who have a following here will not win you or Kan any votes. Unfortunate, but not surprising. We all seek out what supports our own biases and lash out at that which threatens or attacks them. Defense & survival mechanism I guess. (Doubt KAN sinks or swims based on anything I say.) I'd be more interested in winning the vote of someone who could teach me what elevates Maya Hayuk's work above mere decoration. Looks like wrapping paper to me; had its turn as the tourist selfie BG in NYC. Good for turning a small profit if you bought prints from source. I sense no historical, political or theoretical underpinnings to the work...no real depth, no deeper purpose. I'm a member of places like this Forum to learn, and am happy to be educated. Just learned something good about Seth from this very post. Thanks.
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Curious why no one seems to collect, care or talk about KAN., by BKBOI on Nov 4, 2015 2:32:17 GMT 1, ^^^ not trying to defend Hayuk's work. same boat as you, beautiful wrapping paper. however, she is commercially succesful. her signature design was used by a major clothing company here in the US. her works have been shown in museums and she has been given privilege to paint the Bowery wall.
add edit: I do not own any works by Hayuk.
^^^ not trying to defend Hayuk's work. same boat as you, beautiful wrapping paper. however, she is commercially succesful. her signature design was used by a major clothing company here in the US. her works have been shown in museums and she has been given privilege to paint the Bowery wall.
add edit: I do not own any works by Hayuk.
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Curious why no one seems to collect, care or talk about KAN., by thesewalls on Nov 4, 2015 2:53:37 GMT 1, There was a time when the populace of this board were interested in the cultures anti authoritarian "content", its activist based nature and it's rejection of the mores and values of archaic conservative art institutions. That changed dramatically in around 2006/7 due to resale values picking up, UK economy being hammered and people shifting into "survival" mode ala USA culture. Combined with a decade of cuts and job losses, the younger collectors who came into the scene, FR etc came in it solely to profit financially. The art and it's meaning becoming secondary. The ethics and values behind why we supported these artists in the first place, shifted, the board was no longer here to support artists or the culture, but the other way around, artists were shouted down if they produced work that didn't shift instantly on the secondary market for a profit. The recent Jeff Gillete release is a perfect example, not one mention of the art, his ability to paint, his technique, the politics behind it, his history etc etc. So the more insipid, derivative, calculated and abstract start moving to the fore. Something you can make 50 quid on, becomes more important than a much greater piece of work that may not sell out and potentially generate a future profit, however small. KAN being a prime example. The forum is now a small self serving community that operates outside of Street Art culture, it occasionally dips its vulture beak into the world to pick out a flippable print, but otherwise, is becoming more irrelevant by the day ;-) Discuss.... Yup. When I noticed FR was a forum guardian or whatever they're calling it I had a laugh, thinking to myself 'now this place is truly irrelevant.' Fortunately that's not entirely true, as there are people like you to keep me coming back. And a few gems in the for sale section here and there
There was a time when the populace of this board were interested in the cultures anti authoritarian "content", its activist based nature and it's rejection of the mores and values of archaic conservative art institutions. That changed dramatically in around 2006/7 due to resale values picking up, UK economy being hammered and people shifting into "survival" mode ala USA culture. Combined with a decade of cuts and job losses, the younger collectors who came into the scene, FR etc came in it solely to profit financially. The art and it's meaning becoming secondary. The ethics and values behind why we supported these artists in the first place, shifted, the board was no longer here to support artists or the culture, but the other way around, artists were shouted down if they produced work that didn't shift instantly on the secondary market for a profit. The recent Jeff Gillete release is a perfect example, not one mention of the art, his ability to paint, his technique, the politics behind it, his history etc etc. So the more insipid, derivative, calculated and abstract start moving to the fore. Something you can make 50 quid on, becomes more important than a much greater piece of work that may not sell out and potentially generate a future profit, however small. KAN being a prime example. The forum is now a small self serving community that operates outside of Street Art culture, it occasionally dips its vulture beak into the world to pick out a flippable print, but otherwise, is becoming more irrelevant by the day ;-) Discuss.... Yup. When I noticed FR was a forum guardian or whatever they're calling it I had a laugh, thinking to myself 'now this place is truly irrelevant.' Fortunately that's not entirely true, as there are people like you to keep me coming back. And a few gems in the for sale section here and there
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Curious why no one seems to collect, care or talk about KAN., by thesewalls on Nov 4, 2015 2:59:09 GMT 1, I've never heard of KAN. I've also never heard of 100+ other graffiti artists and I f*cking love graffiti. And painting. And sculptures. Collage. Good luck KAN maybe this thread will launch you into stardom.
I've never heard of KAN. I've also never heard of 100+ other graffiti artists and I f*cking love graffiti. And painting. And sculptures. Collage. Good luck KAN maybe this thread will launch you into stardom.
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Curious why no one seems to collect, care or talk about KAN., by alexdb on Nov 4, 2015 10:15:07 GMT 1, I have to admit that the print from Print them All doesn't look like his best piece, but now that people made me aware of his other work from past exhibition it looks much more of interest. I think he has more then sufficient potential to become aware here on the forums. I will follow him on instagram, see what happens.
Anyone has some work of him?
I have to admit that the print from Print them All doesn't look like his best piece, but now that people made me aware of his other work from past exhibition it looks much more of interest. I think he has more then sufficient potential to become aware here on the forums. I will follow him on instagram, see what happens.
Anyone has some work of him?
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Curious why no one seems to collect, care or talk about KAN., by Coach on Nov 4, 2015 12:39:09 GMT 1, So I came across this guy KAN and his work on the PTA site while checking up on that piece of overpriced decorative drivel by the High Priestess of Abstract Lite, Maya Hayuk. Thought his work fresh and popping.ย Never heard of him on this forum, or anywhere, actually.ย Curious why he seems to have no following. I think his work might be a bit too resolved, not enough unfinished left for the viewer to fill in, but really tight and focused.ย Looking into the prices of an original. Just a bit shocked that he can't sell 50 of these prints at 270 GBP when the same site sold out 99 copies of that insipid Seth Vortex at 300+ GBP...looks a half-baked mediocre illustration for a children's book. printthemall.com/prints/london.htmlAnyone here collect KAN?ย Got any insight or opinions on his work?ย Like to hear it. Thanks. There was a time when the populace of this board were interested in the cultures anti authoritarian "content", its activist based nature and it's rejection of the mores and values of archaic conservative art institutions. That changed dramatically in around 2006/7 due to resale values picking up, UK economy being hammered and people shifting into "survival" mode ala USA culture. Combined with a decade of cuts and job losses, the younger collectors who came into the scene, FR etc came in it solely to profit financially. The art and it's meaning becoming secondary. The ethics and values behind why we supported these artists in the first place, shifted, the board was no longer here to support artists or the culture, but the other way around, artists were shouted down if they produced work that didn't shift instantly on the secondary market for a profit. The recent Jeff Gillete release is a perfect example, not one mention of the art, his ability to paint, his technique, the politics behind it, his history etc etc. So the more insipid, derivative, calculated and abstract start moving to the fore. Something you can make 50 quid on, becomes more important than a much greater piece of work that may not sell out and potentially generate a future profit, however small. KAN being a prime example. The forum is now a small self serving community that operates outside of Street Art culture, it occasionally dips its vulture beak into the world to pick out a flippable print, but otherwise, is becoming more irrelevant by the day ;-) Discuss....
Missed this post until it was quoted by another. I think this fits in with the thread I started about change. Though I think there has been a more recent change. But Nu I do think that there are still people on here who want to share knowledge, talk about new artists, see pictures of street art etc. That has, all the time I've been here, sat alongside those who just want to make a quick profit or those that are only interested in their investment value. My concern was that recently the later was starting to outweigh the former. Still hopeful that we can get this place to be a vibrant place to talk about art. Most of the new mods are helping that too I think. Those interested in keeping this forum as a place to discuss art rather than what to flip need to ensure that is the case, I reckon. I'm not too concerned whether the forum is important within any scene. It being an honest informative amd enjoyable place to be is more important to me.
So I came across this guy KAN and his work on the PTA site while checking up on that piece of overpriced decorative drivel by the High Priestess of Abstract Lite, Maya Hayuk. Thought his work fresh and popping.ย Never heard of him on this forum, or anywhere, actually.ย Curious why he seems to have no following. I think his work might be a bit too resolved, not enough unfinished left for the viewer to fill in, but really tight and focused.ย Looking into the prices of an original. Just a bit shocked that he can't sell 50 of these prints at 270 GBP when the same site sold out 99 copies of that insipid Seth Vortex at 300+ GBP...looks a half-baked mediocre illustration for a children's book. printthemall.com/prints/london.htmlAnyone here collect KAN?ย Got any insight or opinions on his work?ย Like to hear it. Thanks. There was a time when the populace of this board were interested in the cultures anti authoritarian "content", its activist based nature and it's rejection of the mores and values of archaic conservative art institutions. That changed dramatically in around 2006/7 due to resale values picking up, UK economy being hammered and people shifting into "survival" mode ala USA culture. Combined with a decade of cuts and job losses, the younger collectors who came into the scene, FR etc came in it solely to profit financially. The art and it's meaning becoming secondary. The ethics and values behind why we supported these artists in the first place, shifted, the board was no longer here to support artists or the culture, but the other way around, artists were shouted down if they produced work that didn't shift instantly on the secondary market for a profit. The recent Jeff Gillete release is a perfect example, not one mention of the art, his ability to paint, his technique, the politics behind it, his history etc etc. So the more insipid, derivative, calculated and abstract start moving to the fore. Something you can make 50 quid on, becomes more important than a much greater piece of work that may not sell out and potentially generate a future profit, however small. KAN being a prime example. The forum is now a small self serving community that operates outside of Street Art culture, it occasionally dips its vulture beak into the world to pick out a flippable print, but otherwise, is becoming more irrelevant by the day ;-) Discuss.... Missed this post until it was quoted by another. I think this fits in with the thread I started about change. Though I think there has been a more recent change. But Nu I do think that there are still people on here who want to share knowledge, talk about new artists, see pictures of street art etc. That has, all the time I've been here, sat alongside those who just want to make a quick profit or those that are only interested in their investment value. My concern was that recently the later was starting to outweigh the former. Still hopeful that we can get this place to be a vibrant place to talk about art. Most of the new mods are helping that too I think. Those interested in keeping this forum as a place to discuss art rather than what to flip need to ensure that is the case, I reckon. I'm not too concerned whether the forum is important within any scene. It being an honest informative amd enjoyable place to be is more important to me.
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Curious why no one seems to collect, care or talk about KAN., by nrgball on Nov 4, 2015 15:49:03 GMT 1, So I came across this guy KAN and his work on the PTA site while checking up on that piece of overpriced decorative drivel by the High Priestess of Abstract Lite, Maya Hayuk. Thought his work fresh and popping.ย Never heard of him on this forum, or anywhere, actually.ย Curious why he seems to have no following. I think his work might be a bit too resolved, not enough unfinished left for the viewer to fill in, but really tight and focused.ย Looking into the prices of an original. Just a bit shocked that he can't sell 50 of these prints at 270 GBP when the same site sold out 99 copies of that insipid Seth Vortex at 300+ GBP...looks a half-baked mediocre illustration for a children's book. printthemall.com/prints/london.htmlAnyone here collect KAN?ย Got any insight or opinions on his work?ย Like to hear it. Thanks. There was a time when the populace of this board were interested in the cultures anti authoritarian "content", its activist based nature and it's rejection of the mores and values of archaic conservative art institutions. That changed dramatically in around 2006/7 due to resale values picking up, UK economy being hammered and people shifting into "survival" mode ala USA culture. Combined with a decade of cuts and job losses, the younger collectors who came into the scene, FR etc came in it solely to profit financially. The art and it's meaning becoming secondary. The ethics and values behind why we supported these artists in the first place, shifted, the board was no longer here to support artists or the culture, but the other way around, artists were shouted down if they produced work that didn't shift instantly on the secondary market for a profit. The recent Jeff Gillete release is a perfect example, not one mention of the art, his ability to paint, his technique, the politics behind it, his history etc etc. So the more insipid, derivative, calculated and abstract start moving to the fore. Something you can make 50 quid on, becomes more important than a much greater piece of work that may not sell out and potentially generate a future profit, however small. KAN being a prime example. The forum is now a small self serving community that operates outside of Street Art culture, it occasionally dips its vulture beak into the world to pick out a flippable print, but otherwise, is becoming more irrelevant by the day ;-) Discuss....
Beautifully said. Where have all the fans gone to? I want to hang out in that forum.
So I came across this guy KAN and his work on the PTA site while checking up on that piece of overpriced decorative drivel by the High Priestess of Abstract Lite, Maya Hayuk. Thought his work fresh and popping.ย Never heard of him on this forum, or anywhere, actually.ย Curious why he seems to have no following. I think his work might be a bit too resolved, not enough unfinished left for the viewer to fill in, but really tight and focused.ย Looking into the prices of an original. Just a bit shocked that he can't sell 50 of these prints at 270 GBP when the same site sold out 99 copies of that insipid Seth Vortex at 300+ GBP...looks a half-baked mediocre illustration for a children's book. printthemall.com/prints/london.htmlAnyone here collect KAN?ย Got any insight or opinions on his work?ย Like to hear it. Thanks. There was a time when the populace of this board were interested in the cultures anti authoritarian "content", its activist based nature and it's rejection of the mores and values of archaic conservative art institutions. That changed dramatically in around 2006/7 due to resale values picking up, UK economy being hammered and people shifting into "survival" mode ala USA culture. Combined with a decade of cuts and job losses, the younger collectors who came into the scene, FR etc came in it solely to profit financially. The art and it's meaning becoming secondary. The ethics and values behind why we supported these artists in the first place, shifted, the board was no longer here to support artists or the culture, but the other way around, artists were shouted down if they produced work that didn't shift instantly on the secondary market for a profit. The recent Jeff Gillete release is a perfect example, not one mention of the art, his ability to paint, his technique, the politics behind it, his history etc etc. So the more insipid, derivative, calculated and abstract start moving to the fore. Something you can make 50 quid on, becomes more important than a much greater piece of work that may not sell out and potentially generate a future profit, however small. KAN being a prime example. The forum is now a small self serving community that operates outside of Street Art culture, it occasionally dips its vulture beak into the world to pick out a flippable print, but otherwise, is becoming more irrelevant by the day ;-) Discuss.... Beautifully said. Where have all the fans gone to? I want to hang out in that forum.
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Curious why no one seems to collect, care or talk about KAN., by mojo on Nov 5, 2015 10:41:21 GMT 1, So I came across this guy KAN and his work on the PTA site while checking up on that piece of overpriced decorative drivel by the High Priestess of Abstract Lite, Maya Hayuk. Thought his work fresh and popping. Never heard of him on this forum, or anywhere, actually. Curious why he seems to have no following. I think his work might be a bit too resolved, not enough unfinished left for the viewer to fill in, but really tight and focused. Looking into the prices of an original. Just a bit shocked that he can't sell 50 of these prints at 270 GBP when the same site sold out 99 copies of that insipid Seth Vortex at 300+ GBP...looks a half-baked mediocre illustration for a children's book. printthemall.com/prints/london.htmlAnyone here collect KAN? Got any insight or opinions on his work? Like to hear it. Thanks. There was a time when the populace of this board were interested in the cultures anti authoritarian "content", its activist based nature and it's rejection of the mores and values of archaic conservative art institutions. That changed dramatically in around 2006/7 due to resale values picking up, UK economy being hammered and people shifting into "survival" mode ala USA culture. Combined with a decade of cuts and job losses, the younger collectors who came into the scene, FR etc came in it solely to profit financially. The art and it's meaning becoming secondary. The ethics and values behind why we supported these artists in the first place, shifted, the board was no longer here to support artists or the culture, but the other way around, artists were shouted down if they produced work that didn't shift instantly on the secondary market for a profit. The recent Jeff Gillete release is a perfect example, not one mention of the art, his ability to paint, his technique, the politics behind it, his history etc etc. So the more insipid, derivative, calculated and abstract start moving to the fore. Something you can make 50 quid on, becomes more important than a much greater piece of work that may not sell out and potentially generate a future profit, however small. KAN being a prime example. The forum is now a small self serving community that operates outside of Street Art culture, it occasionally dips its vulture beak into the world to pick out a flippable print, but otherwise, is becoming more irrelevant by the day ;-) Discuss.... Great post nuart the original street art scene certainly lost its mojo around 2006/7 When art becomes more about the money instead of the creativity it attracts a very different type of person. I appreciate that throughout history art and money have gone hand in hand and that people need to have money to make money....but at what cost?
So I came across this guy KAN and his work on the PTA site while checking up on that piece of overpriced decorative drivel by the High Priestess of Abstract Lite, Maya Hayuk. Thought his work fresh and popping. Never heard of him on this forum, or anywhere, actually. Curious why he seems to have no following. I think his work might be a bit too resolved, not enough unfinished left for the viewer to fill in, but really tight and focused. Looking into the prices of an original. Just a bit shocked that he can't sell 50 of these prints at 270 GBP when the same site sold out 99 copies of that insipid Seth Vortex at 300+ GBP...looks a half-baked mediocre illustration for a children's book. printthemall.com/prints/london.htmlAnyone here collect KAN? Got any insight or opinions on his work? Like to hear it. Thanks. There was a time when the populace of this board were interested in the cultures anti authoritarian "content", its activist based nature and it's rejection of the mores and values of archaic conservative art institutions. That changed dramatically in around 2006/7 due to resale values picking up, UK economy being hammered and people shifting into "survival" mode ala USA culture. Combined with a decade of cuts and job losses, the younger collectors who came into the scene, FR etc came in it solely to profit financially. The art and it's meaning becoming secondary. The ethics and values behind why we supported these artists in the first place, shifted, the board was no longer here to support artists or the culture, but the other way around, artists were shouted down if they produced work that didn't shift instantly on the secondary market for a profit. The recent Jeff Gillete release is a perfect example, not one mention of the art, his ability to paint, his technique, the politics behind it, his history etc etc. So the more insipid, derivative, calculated and abstract start moving to the fore. Something you can make 50 quid on, becomes more important than a much greater piece of work that may not sell out and potentially generate a future profit, however small. KAN being a prime example. The forum is now a small self serving community that operates outside of Street Art culture, it occasionally dips its vulture beak into the world to pick out a flippable print, but otherwise, is becoming more irrelevant by the day ;-) Discuss.... Great post nuart the original street art scene certainly lost its mojo around 2006/7 When art becomes more about the money instead of the creativity it attracts a very different type of person. I appreciate that throughout history art and money have gone hand in hand and that people need to have money to make money....but at what cost?
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Curious why no one seems to collect, care or talk about KAN., by aymar75 on Nov 7, 2015 17:41:34 GMT 1, Was at his show in Paris this afternoon. Great pieces of artwork and a strong theme: LA GANGZ. The art is pointillist up to 20k points. It is like you needed an autofocus to find the picture in it. Love it. I think i Will to for one. Also the artist was there. Very nice Guy. Hope he will get more forum love Anyway if you are in Paris, go for it!
Was at his show in Paris this afternoon. Great pieces of artwork and a strong theme: LA GANGZ. The art is pointillist up to 20k points. It is like you needed an autofocus to find the picture in it. Love it. I think i Will to for one. Also the artist was there. Very nice Guy. Hope he will get more forum love Anyway if you are in Paris, go for it!
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Curious why no one seems to collect, care or talk about KAN., by met on Nov 10, 2015 2:32:48 GMT 1, Personally, I think Kan's work is really interesting and seems to have something genuine to say about protest and social disorder across Europe. The original piece that the PTM print is based upon was created with 20,299 individual dots using Krink and spraypaint and the choice of source images is deliberate. The subjects of those original source images obviously have their own backstories and motivations; they're real people with all the complexities that comes with that. But the continued use of these particular images by the mainstream media as stock images to represent, for example, the London riots or anti-austerity riots in Athens as a whole has strips out all context and nuance. Kan's distortion and simplification of the images through pixelation/pointillism therefore underscores the media's reductionist approach to complex issues and highlights that many of our opinions about these issues are formed through the lens of the media. I think there's plenty of interest out there in Kan's work but there's lots of artists (especially those from mainland Europe for some reason) that aren't discussed on forums. There's a thread about his last show with links to photos and interviews here elsewhere. Great post. Thanks for the insight and viewpoint. It's changed the way I look at the artist's work.
Personally, I think Kan's work is really interesting and seems to have something genuine to say about protest and social disorder across Europe. The original piece that the PTM print is based upon was created with 20,299 individual dots using Krink and spraypaint and the choice of source images is deliberate. The subjects of those original source images obviously have their own backstories and motivations; they're real people with all the complexities that comes with that. But the continued use of these particular images by the mainstream media as stock images to represent, for example, the London riots or anti-austerity riots in Athens as a whole has strips out all context and nuance. Kan's distortion and simplification of the images through pixelation/pointillism therefore underscores the media's reductionist approach to complex issues and highlights that many of our opinions about these issues are formed through the lens of the media. I think there's plenty of interest out there in Kan's work but there's lots of artists (especially those from mainland Europe for some reason) that aren't discussed on forums. There's a thread about his last show with links to photos and interviews here elsewhere. Great post. Thanks for the insight and viewpoint. It's changed the way I look at the artist's work.
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Curious why no one seems to collect, care or talk about KAN., by Mirus Gallery Poesia on Nov 10, 2015 9:35:53 GMT 1, I think many of the comments in are a direct reflection of how different we all are and what we appreciate as art. I dont really appreciate 75% what I see in here, but Im ok with saying that. I dont think bashing anyone or their taste helps but this thread did get some good conversation going for once. I dont take it personal when people dont like what I like, I actually prefer it that way most times. I do appreciate it when someone does get what I am trying to do as an artist/curator etc, Thats enough for me.
The points that have been made are great but maybe off topic from Kan as an artist. I cant believe me and @nuartfestival stand on the same side of argument for once haha. But he makes some good points. In the end people need to realize that all artists have history, it is this history that you should look at and look for answers in their work. I am not a fan of Illustrative work like Seth but he seems like a good guy and I am sure his work means something to him and it obviously is appreciated in here, but to get upset cause someone says they dont like makes no sense. Not everyone will see what you see or like what you like.
Back to History, I can say I might not like the work of Seth but then I look towards his history what was he doing 2 years ago, 5 years ago, 10, 20 years ago as an artist. To me this is something that means more to me then there current direction or if I like their work personally. If I see some consistency and a history with the artist some progression and originality in their history then I give them my respect regardless of what my taste is. A Fan of Maya Hayuk now who likes all these bright colors and so forth might not even know her history and progression as an artist, or those that hate her work as derivative might not take the time to learn how this current body of work progressed over the last 10 years of her painting, or her history with great artists who have shaped the last decade of urban art. You have to try to look at the whole picture. Today is only a moment of an artists life.
Now back to the original topic Kan, his History is there for me. I appreciate his work for different reasons and have watched him progress and make new work recently that he has been working on for years. Not everyone needs to release a print every 6 month or do every mural festival on the circuit. There are great artists like Kan who have tons of respect from those that matter, their peers and are patient with the process of making art. So maybe thats why people are not talking about it. And from most of the comments about it you just dont get it, which is ok we all have our eyes for art and can see what we see. I try to look deeper than aesthetics, subject matter, will this fit on my wall, or is this is so cool cause its activist art. I see it differently, and the best way to see it differently is maybe read his press releases, read interviews and reviews or email the artist with questions. You would be amazed how easy it is to get some insight from an artist.
When I look at the work of Kan i dont see the obvious pointilism, or photorealistic techniques. I search for symbolism in his images what is he trying to say so directly but subtly. His process of painting with graffiti markers and spray paint relates directly back to his history and keeps his roots in what he knows best as a medium. This is important for me personally as it reflects a conceptual aspect that might be overlooked. The idea of taking media images, representing it in a way that we consume it is also overlooked. Dots are the basis of how we consume the media, whether it be on the TV screen in the millions or in the newspaper printed in offset we see news, events and life through this medium of dots that we forget are not real do to the new technology that hides their flaws. Overall he is a great painter who I have deep respect for and I am lucky to own a piece of artwork from him. My collection is from friends and other artists so I disclose it here for transparency and in no way care what value has to do with things. True value has already been gained through my understanding and appreciation of his work.
I think many of the comments in are a direct reflection of how different we all are and what we appreciate as art. I dont really appreciate 75% what I see in here, but Im ok with saying that. I dont think bashing anyone or their taste helps but this thread did get some good conversation going for once. I dont take it personal when people dont like what I like, I actually prefer it that way most times. I do appreciate it when someone does get what I am trying to do as an artist/curator etc, Thats enough for me.
The points that have been made are great but maybe off topic from Kan as an artist. I cant believe me and @nuartfestival stand on the same side of argument for once haha. But he makes some good points. In the end people need to realize that all artists have history, it is this history that you should look at and look for answers in their work. I am not a fan of Illustrative work like Seth but he seems like a good guy and I am sure his work means something to him and it obviously is appreciated in here, but to get upset cause someone says they dont like makes no sense. Not everyone will see what you see or like what you like.
Back to History, I can say I might not like the work of Seth but then I look towards his history what was he doing 2 years ago, 5 years ago, 10, 20 years ago as an artist. To me this is something that means more to me then there current direction or if I like their work personally. If I see some consistency and a history with the artist some progression and originality in their history then I give them my respect regardless of what my taste is. A Fan of Maya Hayuk now who likes all these bright colors and so forth might not even know her history and progression as an artist, or those that hate her work as derivative might not take the time to learn how this current body of work progressed over the last 10 years of her painting, or her history with great artists who have shaped the last decade of urban art. You have to try to look at the whole picture. Today is only a moment of an artists life.
Now back to the original topic Kan, his History is there for me. I appreciate his work for different reasons and have watched him progress and make new work recently that he has been working on for years. Not everyone needs to release a print every 6 month or do every mural festival on the circuit. There are great artists like Kan who have tons of respect from those that matter, their peers and are patient with the process of making art. So maybe thats why people are not talking about it. And from most of the comments about it you just dont get it, which is ok we all have our eyes for art and can see what we see. I try to look deeper than aesthetics, subject matter, will this fit on my wall, or is this is so cool cause its activist art. I see it differently, and the best way to see it differently is maybe read his press releases, read interviews and reviews or email the artist with questions. You would be amazed how easy it is to get some insight from an artist.
When I look at the work of Kan i dont see the obvious pointilism, or photorealistic techniques. I search for symbolism in his images what is he trying to say so directly but subtly. His process of painting with graffiti markers and spray paint relates directly back to his history and keeps his roots in what he knows best as a medium. This is important for me personally as it reflects a conceptual aspect that might be overlooked. The idea of taking media images, representing it in a way that we consume it is also overlooked. Dots are the basis of how we consume the media, whether it be on the TV screen in the millions or in the newspaper printed in offset we see news, events and life through this medium of dots that we forget are not real do to the new technology that hides their flaws. Overall he is a great painter who I have deep respect for and I am lucky to own a piece of artwork from him. My collection is from friends and other artists so I disclose it here for transparency and in no way care what value has to do with things. True value has already been gained through my understanding and appreciation of his work.
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Curious why no one seems to collect, care or talk about KAN., by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 14:45:40 GMT 1, He is certainly talented and has a lot of potential to do more than Invader which is just milking the name and copying cartoon characters to turn into very basic mosaics.
Probably dkan doesn't have enough publicity in the right places and maybe needs to make his art more vibrant colours and plastic looking.
Which people like.
Good thing is for collectors who are not brainwashed and know the difference they can buy Kan's art for affordable prices.
He is certainly talented and has a lot of potential to do more than Invader which is just milking the name and copying cartoon characters to turn into very basic mosaics.
Probably dkan doesn't have enough publicity in the right places and maybe needs to make his art more vibrant colours and plastic looking.
Which people like.
Good thing is for collectors who are not brainwashed and know the difference they can buy Kan's art for affordable prices.
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