vei
Junior Member
๐จ๏ธ 1,830
๐๐ป 975
February 2013
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by vei on Nov 6, 2015 15:53:35 GMT 1, Can you imagine a flipper threatening Laz? 'I WANT MY PROFIT!! I DEMAND MY PROFIT!!! SEE YOU IN COURT!!!!' ............ 'When's the next Harrington print out?'
That made me snort milk out of my nose.
Can you imagine a flipper threatening Laz? 'I WANT MY PROFIT!! I DEMAND MY PROFIT!!! SEE YOU IN COURT!!!!' ............ 'When's the next Harrington print out?' That made me snort milk out of my nose. |
|
scarylarry
New Member
๐จ๏ธ 285
๐๐ป 126
July 2015
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by scarylarry on Nov 6, 2015 15:59:59 GMT 1, No, I donยดt. Sadly didnยดt even get one. I just read the upper posts about this issue. I understand that flippers are hated and morally they might be right, but legally, as soon as I buy something, neither the gallery nor the artist can decide what I am going to do with it. Keep, Sell, Burn, Walk on it, whatever I like. You think Laz don't know there own rules of contract? It is all about the reason they give on why an order is canceled. They might not even give you a reason.. but the most used one is "sorry we oversold"
Exactly that's all they have to say
No, I donยดt. Sadly didnยดt even get one. I just read the upper posts about this issue. I understand that flippers are hated and morally they might be right, but legally, as soon as I buy something, neither the gallery nor the artist can decide what I am going to do with it. Keep, Sell, Burn, Walk on it, whatever I like. You think Laz don't know there own rules of contract? It is all about the reason they give on why an order is canceled. They might not even give you a reason.. but the most used one is "sorry we oversold" Exactly that's all they have to say |
|
kel
Junior Member
๐จ๏ธ 1,111
๐๐ป 511
October 2008
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by kel on Nov 6, 2015 16:01:39 GMT 1, Anyway to add another positive to Laz just received a shipping confirmation. Now that was quick great work as always.
Just waiting to copy an image to my ebay listing and away we go. 
Anyway to add another positive to Laz just received a shipping confirmation. Now that was quick great work as always.
Just waiting to copy an image to my ebay listing and away we go.
|
|
natstan
Junior Member
๐จ๏ธ 1,807
๐๐ป 1,128
March 2013
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by natstan on Nov 6, 2015 16:10:29 GMT 1, No, a cancellation is not possible. The E-Mail with the order confirmation makes the purchase contract valid (check Lazarides Terms & Conditions point 3.6 - they say it themselves: ย "3.6 If we accept your order we will confirm our acceptance by sending you a separate confirmation email ("Order Confirmation"). The Contract between us will only be formed when we send you the Order Confirmation." ย ย ), and suspicions of possible eBay resells are no reason at all to cancel the purchase contract by seller side. Friend of mine had the same case with another gallery, they had to pay a compensation and hand him the ordered print.ย I think they will get some legal trouble if the go for that.
That's what I thought too. The moment the buyer makes payment and gets a confirmation, the contract is formed. The buyer has every right to do anything with the print from that point onwards isn't it?
No, a cancellation is not possible. The E-Mail with the order confirmation makes the purchase contract valid (check Lazarides Terms & Conditions point 3.6 - they say it themselves: ย "3.6 If we accept your order we will confirm our acceptance by sending you a separate confirmation email ("Order Confirmation"). The Contract between us will only be formed when we send you the Order Confirmation." ย ย ), and suspicions of possible eBay resells are no reason at all to cancel the purchase contract by seller side. Friend of mine had the same case with another gallery, they had to pay a compensation and hand him the ordered print.ย I think they will get some legal trouble if the go for that. That's what I thought too. The moment the buyer makes payment and gets a confirmation, the contract is formed. The buyer has every right to do anything with the print from that point onwards isn't it? |
|
kel
Junior Member
๐จ๏ธ 1,111
๐๐ป 511
October 2008
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by kel on Nov 6, 2015 16:18:09 GMT 1, No, a cancellation is not possible. The E-Mail with the order confirmation makes the purchase contract valid (check Lazarides Terms & Conditions point 3.6 - they say it themselves: "3.6 If we accept your order we will confirm our acceptance by sending you a separate confirmation email ("Order Confirmation"). The Contract between us will only be formed when we send you the Order Confirmation." ), and suspicions of possible eBay resells are no reason at all to cancel the purchase contract by seller side. Friend of mine had the same case with another gallery, they had to pay a compensation and hand him the ordered print. I think they will get some legal trouble if the go for that. That's what I thought too. The moment the buyer makes payment and gets a confirmation, the contract is formed. The buyer has every right to do anything with the print from that point onwards isn't it? I would have thought that the buyer can only do what they wish at the point it has been delivered as they will then have full ownership. In between anything could happen.
Also if an image used in an eBay listing is from a website highly likely to be copyrighted.
No, a cancellation is not possible. The E-Mail with the order confirmation makes the purchase contract valid (check Lazarides Terms & Conditions point 3.6 - they say it themselves: "3.6 If we accept your order we will confirm our acceptance by sending you a separate confirmation email ("Order Confirmation"). The Contract between us will only be formed when we send you the Order Confirmation." ), and suspicions of possible eBay resells are no reason at all to cancel the purchase contract by seller side. Friend of mine had the same case with another gallery, they had to pay a compensation and hand him the ordered print. I think they will get some legal trouble if the go for that. That's what I thought too. The moment the buyer makes payment and gets a confirmation, the contract is formed. The buyer has every right to do anything with the print from that point onwards isn't it? I would have thought that the buyer can only do what they wish at the point it has been delivered as they will then have full ownership. In between anything could happen.
Also if an image used in an eBay listing is from a website highly likely to be copyrighted.
|
|
|
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by Con Art Studio on Nov 6, 2015 16:21:47 GMT 1, No, a cancellation is not possible. The E-Mail with the order confirmation makes the purchase contract valid (check Lazarides Terms & Conditions point 3.6 - they say it themselves: "3.6 If we accept your order we will confirm our acceptance by sending you a separate confirmation email ("Order Confirmation"). The Contract between us will only be formed when we send you the Order Confirmation." ), and suspicions of possible eBay resells are no reason at all to cancel the purchase contract by seller side. Friend of mine had the same case with another gallery, they had to pay a compensation and hand him the ordered print. I think they will get some legal trouble if the go for that.
www.lazinc.com/website-terms#website-trading-terms
"3.4 We may reject any orders at our discretion and without explanation. Acceptance and fulfilment of orders will be subject to availability. You acknowledge and accept that some Artwork is unique or there may be limited availability. We will not be liable to you if the Artwork that you wish to order is unavailable for any reason."
they can and will cancel any orders that they want to, you agreed to the above terms when placing an order.
it's not a moral issue, nor is it a legal issue, that they can cancel or reject any orders. it's a business decision that they can exercise and they are choosing to do so.
next time maybe you will actually wait to have the print in your possession before trying to resell it. also, last i checked, it's against ebay's rules to sell something you don't actually have, therefore your eBay listing was most likely against their selling terms.
No, a cancellation is not possible. The E-Mail with the order confirmation makes the purchase contract valid (check Lazarides Terms & Conditions point 3.6 - they say it themselves: "3.6 If we accept your order we will confirm our acceptance by sending you a separate confirmation email ("Order Confirmation"). The Contract between us will only be formed when we send you the Order Confirmation." ), and suspicions of possible eBay resells are no reason at all to cancel the purchase contract by seller side. Friend of mine had the same case with another gallery, they had to pay a compensation and hand him the ordered print. I think they will get some legal trouble if the go for that. "3.4 We may reject any orders at our discretion and without explanation. Acceptance and fulfilment of orders will be subject to availability. You acknowledge and accept that some Artwork is unique or there may be limited availability. We will not be liable to you if the Artwork that you wish to order is unavailable for any reason." they can and will cancel any orders that they want to, you agreed to the above terms when placing an order. it's not a moral issue, nor is it a legal issue, that they can cancel or reject any orders. it's a business decision that they can exercise and they are choosing to do so. next time maybe you will actually wait to have the print in your possession before trying to resell it. also, last i checked, it's against ebay's rules to sell something you don't actually have, therefore your eBay listing was most likely against their selling terms. |
|
|
|
mreeves
New Member
๐จ๏ธ 25
๐๐ป 43
February 2013
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by mreeves on Nov 6, 2015 16:27:20 GMT 1, I was in meetings all day yesterday and this was the one print I've been desperate to get on my wall!
If anyone has second thoughts on theirs let me know.
Thanks
I was in meetings all day yesterday and this was the one print I've been desperate to get on my wall!
If anyone has second thoughts on theirs let me know.
Thanks
|
|
Dr Plip
Junior Member
๐จ๏ธ 7,043
๐๐ป 8,981
August 2011
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by Dr Plip on Nov 6, 2015 16:50:17 GMT 1, That's what I thought too. The moment the buyer makes payment and gets a confirmation, the contract is formed. The buyer has every right to do anything with the print from that point onwards isn't it? I would have thought that the buyer can only do what they wish at the point it has been delivered as they will then have full ownership. In between anything could happen.
Also if an image used in an eBay listing is from a website highly likely to be copyrighted.
That's what I thought too. The moment the buyer makes payment and gets a confirmation, the contract is formed. The buyer has every right to do anything with the print from that point onwards isn't it? I would have thought that the buyer can only do what they wish at the point it has been delivered as they will then have full ownership. In between anything could happen.
Also if an image used in an eBay listing is from a website highly likely to be copyrighted.
Yeah, I believe Shepard Fairey gets eBay to pull listings that have his stock images on them. |
|
Inknart
Junior Member
๐จ๏ธ 3,490
๐๐ป 3,288
April 2015
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by Inknart on Nov 6, 2015 17:41:43 GMT 1, Low edition regardless. Not sure how many will show up. I like this print because it seems timeless. You know it's good when it can go in my home (Contemporary) and even look good in my parents (Antiques). Really hits on multiple levels. I think the only one who doesn't like them is my girlfriend haha. She's not going to be thrilled when it's the new focal point of the bedroom
Low edition regardless. Not sure how many will show up. I like this print because it seems timeless. You know it's good when it can go in my home (Contemporary) and even look good in my parents (Antiques). Really hits on multiple levels. I think the only one who doesn't like them is my girlfriend haha. She's not going to be thrilled when it's the new focal point of the bedroom
|
|
.dappy
Full Member
๐จ๏ธ 9,841
๐๐ป 9,462
December 2010
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by .dappy on Nov 7, 2015 0:02:48 GMT 1, http://instagram.com/p/9vwcXnN242
|
|
hackenbush
New Member
๐จ๏ธ 35
๐๐ป 12
September 2014
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by hackenbush on Nov 7, 2015 17:20:11 GMT 1, I initially thought that I would love one of these prints. But when I got the pre sale email I thought long and hard about it and if I still liked it as much. I came to the conclusion that I could happily live without it. I already have a few large prints on my wall, and while I live in a reasonable sized house another large print would not necessarily benefit me or the walls. More importantly I think the image is something that I would quickly tire of. They are two dark and old fashioned, and although I can appreciate the skill involved I like to spend time looking at the art on my walls and why they mean so much to me that I want to look at them every day. Despite the cleverness of these pieces I wouldn't get the pleasure, beauty or interest that I get from my other art work. My personal opinion is that in the long run most people who missed out on buying these prints at source will not as disappointed as they are now. Unless you were buying as a possible investment.
I initially thought that I would love one of these prints. But when I got the pre sale email I thought long and hard about it and if I still liked it as much. I came to the conclusion that I could happily live without it. I already have a few large prints on my wall, and while I live in a reasonable sized house another large print would not necessarily benefit me or the walls. More importantly I think the image is something that I would quickly tire of. They are two dark and old fashioned, and although I can appreciate the skill involved I like to spend time looking at the art on my walls and why they mean so much to me that I want to look at them every day. Despite the cleverness of these pieces I wouldn't get the pleasure, beauty or interest that I get from my other art work. My personal opinion is that in the long run most people who missed out on buying these prints at source will not as disappointed as they are now. Unless you were buying as a possible investment.
|
|
kendo
Junior Member
๐จ๏ธ 1,212
๐๐ป 1,208
August 2010
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by kendo on Nov 7, 2015 17:41:13 GMT 1, Kendo, they're probably flooded with calls at the moment. I've always had excellent customer service at LAZ, never an issue. I second this. The customer service at Laz is second to none. I agree, they usually are and have been in the past but I guess if you don't buy anything they're not really interested!
I had one in my basket and I couldn't check-out! I rang their customer support line a couple of times and finally left a voice mail. Aware that it was time sensitive I also sent an email to their support describing the issue. It was definitely in my basket as when the time ran out, it emptied and was quickly snapped up by someone more fortunate!
On a major release you would think that their dedicated 'Lazarides Editions customer support' would be available to help with any issues. I have yet to receive any response!
Kendo, they're probably flooded with calls at the moment. I've always had excellent customer service at LAZ, never an issue. I second this. The customer service at Laz is second to none. I agree, they usually are and have been in the past but I guess if you don't buy anything they're not really interested!
I had one in my basket and I couldn't check-out! I rang their customer support line a couple of times and finally left a voice mail. Aware that it was time sensitive I also sent an email to their support describing the issue. It was definitely in my basket as when the time ran out, it emptied and was quickly snapped up by someone more fortunate!
On a major release you would think that their dedicated 'Lazarides Editions customer support' would be available to help with any issues. I have yet to receive any response!
|
|
Deleted
๐จ๏ธ 0
๐๐ป
January 1970
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 17:43:08 GMT 1, I initially thought that I would love one of these prints. But when I got the pre sale email I thought long and hard about it and if I still liked it as much. I came to the conclusion that I could happily live without it. I already have a few large prints on my wall, and while I live in a reasonable sized house another large print would not necessarily benefit me or the walls. More importantly I think the image is something that I would quickly tire of. They are two dark and old fashioned, and although I can appreciate the skill involved I like to spend time looking at the art on my walls and why they mean so much to me that I want to look at them every day. Despite the cleverness of these pieces I wouldn't get the pleasure, beauty or interest that I get from my other art work. My personal opinion is that in the long run most people who missed out on buying these prints at source will not as disappointed as they are now. Unless you were buying as a possible investment.
I initially thought that I would love one of these prints. But when I got the pre sale email I thought long and hard about it and if I still liked it as much. I came to the conclusion that I could happily live without it. I already have a few large prints on my wall, and while I live in a reasonable sized house another large print would not necessarily benefit me or the walls. More importantly I think the image is something that I would quickly tire of. They are two dark and old fashioned, and although I can appreciate the skill involved I like to spend time looking at the art on my walls and why they mean so much to me that I want to look at them every day. Despite the cleverness of these pieces I wouldn't get the pleasure, beauty or interest that I get from my other art work. My personal opinion is that in the long run most people who missed out on buying these prints at source will not as disappointed as they are now. Unless you were buying as a possible investment. Have to agree about the size - Iโm not generally a fan of massive prints. Real shame as I love the Miaz Bros and their Laz show was one of the best for me in 2015 - something around 50x70 like the Cyclops/Lucas Price portraits would have been ideal for me. Iโm going to resort to sticking a couple of Laz showcards in some antique frames. |
|
nighthawk
Junior Member
๐จ๏ธ 1,338
๐๐ป 1,219
February 2013
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by nighthawk on Nov 8, 2015 0:55:08 GMT 1, Bigger the better with these blokes
Bigger the better with these blokes |
|
|
|
champ
New Member
๐จ๏ธ 21
๐๐ป 3
October 2013
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by champ on Nov 8, 2015 15:18:20 GMT 1, I love these two prints!!
I love these two prints!!
|
|
Ruggs
Full Member
๐จ๏ธ 8,963
๐๐ป 4,581
January 2008
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by Ruggs on Nov 9, 2015 10:50:17 GMT 1, Prints delivered this morning.
Prints delivered this morning.
|
|
Fake
Artist
Junior Member
๐จ๏ธ 2,376
๐๐ป 2,144
July 2008
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by Fake on Nov 9, 2015 10:53:07 GMT 1, Prints delivered this morning.
Prints delivered this morning. Holy moly! that is fast! I did not even get an shipping notification yet... |
|
Aza
Artist
Junior Member
๐จ๏ธ 2,983
๐๐ป 3,791
November 2006
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by Aza on Nov 9, 2015 11:01:40 GMT 1, Prints delivered this morning.
Are you happy with them?
Good quality in comparison to the originals?
Prints delivered this morning. Are you happy with them? Good quality in comparison to the originals? |
|
|
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by Coach on Nov 9, 2015 11:05:48 GMT 1, Prints delivered this morning.
You managed to get both Ruggs?
Prints delivered this morning. You managed to get both Ruggs? |
|
Ruggs
Full Member
๐จ๏ธ 8,963
๐๐ป 4,581
January 2008
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by Ruggs on Nov 9, 2015 11:07:57 GMT 1, Prints delivered this morning. Are you happy with them? Good quality in comparison to the originals?
Prints delivered this morning. Are you happy with them? Good quality in comparison to the originals? At work right now. Going to have a look at lunchtime. |
|
b4ne
New Member
๐จ๏ธ 67
๐๐ป 23
September 2015
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by b4ne on Nov 9, 2015 12:11:03 GMT 1, Prints delivered this morning. 
Prints delivered this morning. Pics ? |
|
scarylarry
New Member
๐จ๏ธ 285
๐๐ป 126
July 2015
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by scarylarry on Nov 9, 2015 14:34:10 GMT 1, Anyone in the States receive a shipping confirmation yet?
Anyone in the States receive a shipping confirmation yet?
|
|
|
|
vei
Junior Member
๐จ๏ธ 1,830
๐๐ป 975
February 2013
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by vei on Nov 9, 2015 17:22:20 GMT 1, Just phoned home, mines arrived as well.
Just phoned home, mines arrived as well.
|
|
osamurai
New Member
๐จ๏ธ 34
๐๐ป 25
May 2011
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by osamurai on Nov 9, 2015 18:08:40 GMT 1, Received them this afternoon.
I didn't go to the exhibition so I can't compare them with the original but the are gorgeous!
Thank you Laz!
Received them this afternoon. I didn't go to the exhibition so I can't compare them with the original but the are gorgeous! Thank you Laz! |
|
Aza
Artist
Junior Member
๐จ๏ธ 2,983
๐๐ป 3,791
November 2006
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by Aza on Nov 9, 2015 18:30:25 GMT 1, Damn I wish I managed to get one.
One of the only releases of the year I've wanted.
Hopefully a few turn up around cost on the secondary (wishful thinking)
Damn I wish I managed to get one.
One of the only releases of the year I've wanted.
Hopefully a few turn up around cost on the secondary (wishful thinking)
|
|
|
|
cyberkid
Junior Member
๐จ๏ธ 2,375
๐๐ป 2,458
January 2015
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by cyberkid on Nov 9, 2015 18:50:05 GMT 1, both prints....lucky guy !
both prints....lucky guy ! |
|
b4ne
New Member
๐จ๏ธ 67
๐๐ป 23
September 2015
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by b4ne on Nov 9, 2015 19:04:42 GMT 1, Og yes, they look good. Looking forward to see them live. This must be one of the best prints this year. Wich one do you guys like the most?
Og yes, they look good. Looking forward to see them live. This must be one of the best prints this year. Wich one do you guys like the most?
|
|
floubi
Junior Member
๐จ๏ธ 1,509
๐๐ป 795
June 2011
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by floubi on Nov 9, 2015 19:29:19 GMT 1, I got my set today too... THANK YOU LAZ!
These are ones of my favourite prints..!!
I love them both. IMO, the women looks very smooth and on on the men print you realize better it comes from a spraypaint
I got my set today too... THANK YOU LAZ!
These are ones of my favourite prints..!!
I love them both. IMO, the women looks very smooth and on on the men print you realize better it comes from a spraypaint
|
|
Fake
Artist
Junior Member
๐จ๏ธ 2,376
๐๐ป 2,144
July 2008
|
Miaz Brothers ๐ฎ๐น Portrait Painters โข Roberto & Renato Miaz, by Fake on Nov 9, 2015 19:52:32 GMT 1, Damn! Think I have to take a knife to those white borders ;-)
Damn! Think I have to take a knife to those white borders ;-) |
|
