Kawsisking
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Lionel Gallery?, by Kawsisking on Nov 19, 2015 14:37:26 GMT 1, Has anyone done business with Lionel Gallery in Amsterdam previously? They have some Banksy works for sale and I am wondering about your experiences with the gallery.
lionelgallery.com/en/
Has anyone done business with Lionel Gallery in Amsterdam previously? They have some Banksy works for sale and I am wondering about your experiences with the gallery. lionelgallery.com/en/
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Lionel Gallery?, by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 14:52:59 GMT 1, Bought a Banksy from them, they are really pricey and their aftersales was laughable. I'm not a big fan of them but if you have a big wad of money lying around and don't care too much for costumer service I guess they are fine.
Also inspect the piece yourself, they had a GWB hanging at the time that was in a really bad condition.
Bought a Banksy from them, they are really pricey and their aftersales was laughable. I'm not a big fan of them but if you have a big wad of money lying around and don't care too much for costumer service I guess they are fine.
Also inspect the piece yourself, they had a GWB hanging at the time that was in a really bad condition.
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Lionel Gallery?, by Kawsisking on Nov 19, 2015 15:04:24 GMT 1, Bought a Banksy from them, they are really pricey and their aftersales was laughable. I'm not a big fan of them but if you have a big wad of money lying around and don't care too much for costumer service I guess they are fine. Also inspect the piece yourself, they had a GWB hanging at the time that was in a really bad condition.
That was really helpful info, I'll avoid! Thx.
Bought a Banksy from them, they are really pricey and their aftersales was laughable. I'm not a big fan of them but if you have a big wad of money lying around and don't care too much for costumer service I guess they are fine. Also inspect the piece yourself, they had a GWB hanging at the time that was in a really bad condition. That was really helpful info, I'll avoid! Thx.
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Lionel Gallery?, by goingdownthedran on Nov 19, 2015 15:37:51 GMT 1, I contacted them re: buying a banksy print and selling them another art work. They were rude and unhelpful in their communication.
The prices are ridiculous.
I contacted them re: buying a banksy print and selling them another art work. They were rude and unhelpful in their communication.
The prices are ridiculous.
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Lionel Gallery?, by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 16:39:45 GMT 1, Yeah they cater to the rich that don't ask too many questions. It's a shame these people are the Banksy experts in the Netherlands.
Yeah they cater to the rich that don't ask too many questions. It's a shame these people are the Banksy experts in the Netherlands.
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Lionel Gallery?, by alexdb on Nov 19, 2015 17:32:56 GMT 1, My experience is that the galleries in Netherlands that have Banksy work for sale are just those galleries that are mostly interested to sell to the high end market. In most cases they have only expensive works of other artists as well. They do know you will not be a regular buyer but just interested for only one single piece of work.
My experience is that the galleries in Netherlands that have Banksy work for sale are just those galleries that are mostly interested to sell to the high end market. In most cases they have only expensive works of other artists as well. They do know you will not be a regular buyer but just interested for only one single piece of work.
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Lionel Gallery?, by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 19:13:18 GMT 1, Bought LIITA U/S in summer 2014 and initial price was v high but we settled on same price as what Hang up and Newartonline were selling for. Print and packaging (was shipped flat to Scotland) all excellent, as good a transaction as ive had with anyone. Haven't used them since then but would use again if price was right and they had what i was looking for.
Bought LIITA U/S in summer 2014 and initial price was v high but we settled on same price as what Hang up and Newartonline were selling for. Print and packaging (was shipped flat to Scotland) all excellent, as good a transaction as ive had with anyone. Haven't used them since then but would use again if price was right and they had what i was looking for.
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Lionel Gallery?, by RoboJ on Nov 19, 2015 19:36:19 GMT 1, Really nice people when I visited, just extremely pricey! I was told 16k euros for an unsigned rat.
Really nice people when I visited, just extremely pricey! I was told 16k euros for an unsigned rat.
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Lionel Gallery?, by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 20:20:20 GMT 1, Really nice people when I visited, just extremely pricey! I was told 16k euros for an unsigned rat.
I have spoken to Lionel and his wife a few times and dont think they could have been any more helpful than they were. Bumped into Lionel at Dismaland, introduced myself as we hadnt met before, and we had a pleasant chat, always came across as a decent bloke to me.
Really nice people when I visited, just extremely pricey! I was told 16k euros for an unsigned rat. I have spoken to Lionel and his wife a few times and dont think they could have been any more helpful than they were. Bumped into Lionel at Dismaland, introduced myself as we hadnt met before, and we had a pleasant chat, always came across as a decent bloke to me.
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Lionel Gallery?, by sidechained on Nov 19, 2015 22:52:28 GMT 1, I contacted them within the last month, and was extremely disappointed with Lionel's lack of professionalism.
I asked for a price quote for a signed Banksy print (Morons), received a number below what I was anticipating, and responded with a number in an effort to move forward with the purchase.
The immediate reply back to me was that the print had been sold. Yes, somehow in the short few moments of going back and forth on price, the print had sold to someone else.
I replied in disbelief that the print sold in the midst of our negotiation/pending sale. The response back to me was that we weren't negotiating the price yet, and that I should be aware of how fast the Banksy market moves.
Yeah...okay. Pretty easy to see what was happening at this point. For grins I asked if he could provide a quote for an unsigned copy of the same print, as well as one of the other signed copies.
The response? I was told those all sold, too. Amazing that 3-4 prints suddenly sold right from under my nose on a random weekend.
The best part was when one of his employees also responded with the "real" quote of the first print, which further proved my assumptions.
I would have had the utmost respect for Lionel if he initially responded with "Apologies, I made an error and provided the wrong quote, it should actually be X". Instead, he lied to me multiple times by saying we weren't negotiating yet, and that all of the prints I was interested has somehow sold all at the same time. He permanently lost me as a potential buyer, and have absolutely zero respect for him at this point as a result.
Also, I should note all of the prints I inquired about are still listed as available on his site.
I'm not normally one to share a personal story like that, but he really rubbed me the wrong way.
I contacted them within the last month, and was extremely disappointed with Lionel's lack of professionalism.
I asked for a price quote for a signed Banksy print (Morons), received a number below what I was anticipating, and responded with a number in an effort to move forward with the purchase.
The immediate reply back to me was that the print had been sold. Yes, somehow in the short few moments of going back and forth on price, the print had sold to someone else.
I replied in disbelief that the print sold in the midst of our negotiation/pending sale. The response back to me was that we weren't negotiating the price yet, and that I should be aware of how fast the Banksy market moves.
Yeah...okay. Pretty easy to see what was happening at this point. For grins I asked if he could provide a quote for an unsigned copy of the same print, as well as one of the other signed copies.
The response? I was told those all sold, too. Amazing that 3-4 prints suddenly sold right from under my nose on a random weekend.
The best part was when one of his employees also responded with the "real" quote of the first print, which further proved my assumptions.
I would have had the utmost respect for Lionel if he initially responded with "Apologies, I made an error and provided the wrong quote, it should actually be X". Instead, he lied to me multiple times by saying we weren't negotiating yet, and that all of the prints I was interested has somehow sold all at the same time. He permanently lost me as a potential buyer, and have absolutely zero respect for him at this point as a result.
Also, I should note all of the prints I inquired about are still listed as available on his site.
I'm not normally one to share a personal story like that, but he really rubbed me the wrong way.
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Lionel Gallery?, by Deleted on Nov 19, 2015 23:51:10 GMT 1, I contacted them within the last month, and was extremely disappointed with Lionel's lack of professionalism. I asked for a price quote for a signed Banksy print (Morons), received a number below what I was anticipating, and responded with a number in an effort to move forward with the purchase. The immediate reply back to me was that the print had been sold. Yes, somehow in the short few moments of going back and forth on price, the print had sold to someone else. I replied in disbelief that the print sold in the midst of our negotiation/pending sale. The response back to me was that we weren't negotiating the price yet, and that I should be aware of how fast the Banksy market moves. Yeah...okay. Pretty easy to see what was happening at this point. For grins I asked if he could provide a quote for an unsigned copy of the same print, as well as one of the other signed copies. The response? I was told those all sold, too. Amazing that 3-4 prints suddenly sold right from under my nose on a random weekend. The best part was when one of his employees also responded with the "real" quote of the first print, which further proved my assumptions. I would have had the utmost respect for Lionel if he initially responded with "Apologies, I made an error and provided the wrong quote, it should actually be X". Instead, he lied to me multiple times by saying we weren't negotiating yet, and that all of the prints I was interested has somehow sold all at the same time. He permanently lost me as a potential buyer, and have absolutely zero respect for him at this point as a result. Also, I should note all of the prints I inquired about are still listed as available on his site. I'm not normally one to share a personal story like that, but he really rubbed me the wrong way.
Not a good story at all.
I must be lucky as i've also had good dealings with Newartonline (whilst many havent) and i even had a good purchase from Eyekandiart
I contacted them within the last month, and was extremely disappointed with Lionel's lack of professionalism. I asked for a price quote for a signed Banksy print (Morons), received a number below what I was anticipating, and responded with a number in an effort to move forward with the purchase. The immediate reply back to me was that the print had been sold. Yes, somehow in the short few moments of going back and forth on price, the print had sold to someone else. I replied in disbelief that the print sold in the midst of our negotiation/pending sale. The response back to me was that we weren't negotiating the price yet, and that I should be aware of how fast the Banksy market moves. Yeah...okay. Pretty easy to see what was happening at this point. For grins I asked if he could provide a quote for an unsigned copy of the same print, as well as one of the other signed copies. The response? I was told those all sold, too. Amazing that 3-4 prints suddenly sold right from under my nose on a random weekend. The best part was when one of his employees also responded with the "real" quote of the first print, which further proved my assumptions. I would have had the utmost respect for Lionel if he initially responded with "Apologies, I made an error and provided the wrong quote, it should actually be X". Instead, he lied to me multiple times by saying we weren't negotiating yet, and that all of the prints I was interested has somehow sold all at the same time. He permanently lost me as a potential buyer, and have absolutely zero respect for him at this point as a result. Also, I should note all of the prints I inquired about are still listed as available on his site. I'm not normally one to share a personal story like that, but he really rubbed me the wrong way. Not a good story at all. I must be lucky as i've also had good dealings with Newartonline (whilst many havent) and i even had a good purchase from Eyekandiart
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Kawsisking
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Lionel Gallery?, by Kawsisking on Nov 20, 2015 0:00:27 GMT 1, They got back to me quickly with prices, but as everyone has indicated, the prices were way over market price.
They got back to me quickly with prices, but as everyone has indicated, the prices were way over market price.
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Lionel Gallery?, by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 0:31:40 GMT 1, They got back to me quickly with prices, but as everyone has indicated, the prices were way over market price.
Could you quote the prices here? Saves me an email
They got back to me quickly with prices, but as everyone has indicated, the prices were way over market price. Could you quote the prices here? Saves me an email
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Lionel Gallery?, by Kawsisking on Nov 20, 2015 23:34:00 GMT 1, They got back to me quickly with prices, but as everyone has indicated, the prices were way over market price. Could you quote the prices here? Saves me an email
The price of Girl with Balloon Signed is โฌ 115.000,- and Girl with Balloon Unsigned is โฌ 37.500
They got back to me quickly with prices, but as everyone has indicated, the prices were way over market price. Could you quote the prices here? Saves me an email The price of Girl with Balloon Signed is โฌ 115.000,- and Girl with Balloon Unsigned is โฌ 37.500
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Lionel Gallery?, by Deleted on Nov 21, 2015 9:46:45 GMT 1, Could you quote the prices here? Saves me an email The price of Girl with Balloon Signed is โฌ 115.000,- and Girl with Balloon Unsigned is โฌ 37.500
I will sale my signed gor this! Lot
Could you quote the prices here? Saves me an email The price of Girl with Balloon Signed is โฌ 115.000,- and Girl with Balloon Unsigned is โฌ 37.500 I will sale my signed gor this! Lot
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Lionel Gallery?, by Kawsisking on Nov 21, 2015 16:18:22 GMT 1, The price of Girl with Balloon Signed is โฌ 115.000,- and Girl with Balloon Unsigned is โฌ 37.500 I will sale my signed gor this! Lot Yeah, obviously this is not anywhere close to the market price. But it proves their overpricing. Here's one coming up at Bonham's for ยฃ25,000 - 35,000. www.bonhams.com/auctions/22804/lot/128/
The price of Girl with Balloon Signed is โฌ 115.000,- and Girl with Balloon Unsigned is โฌ 37.500 I will sale my signed gor this! Lot Yeah, obviously this is not anywhere close to the market price. But it proves their overpricing. Here's one coming up at Bonham's for ยฃ25,000 - 35,000. www.bonhams.com/auctions/22804/lot/128/
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Lionel Gallery?, by Steph Rat Catcher on Nov 21, 2015 16:38:08 GMT 1, Can you lock this thread . Don't look good I like Lionel
Can you lock this thread . Don't look good I like Lionel
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Lionel Gallery?, by Larry David on Nov 21, 2015 21:40:40 GMT 1, Like newartonline perhaps ?
Like newartonline perhaps ?
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Lionel Gallery?, by Larry David on Nov 21, 2015 21:54:57 GMT 1, And the last post has vanished, priceless................
And the last post has vanished, priceless................
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Lionel Gallery?, by .dappy on Nov 21, 2015 22:01:03 GMT 1, do you mean the last post from barsakauk who said that other galleries on here were 'no good' but others have said that he himself is, in fact, newartonline ... ie a gallery
do you mean the last post from barsakauk who said that other galleries on here were 'no good' but others have said that he himself is, in fact, newartonline ... ie a gallery
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Lionel Gallery?, by Larry David on Nov 21, 2015 22:09:21 GMT 1, Yes that would be the one .....
Yes that would be the one .....
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Lionel Gallery?, by Steph Rat Catcher on Nov 21, 2015 22:13:20 GMT 1, Member alert !!!!!!' Larry & barsukauk ... Pm me and I will resolve the issue 100% I come out on top x
Quick before a mod locks it ! New art 60% ? You know the score Son
Member alert !!!!!!' Larry & barsukauk ... Pm me and I will resolve the issue 100% I come out on top x
Quick before a mod locks it ! New art 60% ? You know the score Son
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Lionel Gallery?, by .dappy on Nov 21, 2015 22:18:56 GMT 1, ... don't listen to steph
... don't listen to steph
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Lionel Gallery?, by Steph Rat Catcher on Nov 21, 2015 22:24:43 GMT 1, See he's on 70%
See he's on 70%
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Lionel Gallery?, by Steph Rat Catcher on Nov 21, 2015 22:27:23 GMT 1, I'll pop over with my socks ! Don't tell 11
I'll pop over with my socks ! Don't tell 11
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Lionel Gallery?, by .dappy on Nov 21, 2015 22:29:08 GMT 1, ... knit one, pearl one? ...
... knit one, pearl one? ...
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Lionel Gallery?, by Steph Rat Catcher on Nov 21, 2015 22:45:53 GMT 1, I'll pop over with my socks ! Don't tell 11 Aaw you knitted him socks for christmas, i knew you are a sweet sensible soul, give them to him he deserves them, start with the haiku nick one of my kids dolls should fit him!
I'll pop over with my socks ! Don't tell 11 Aaw you knitted him socks for christmas, i knew you are a sweet sensible soul, give them to him he deserves them, start with the haiku nick one of my kids dolls should fit him!
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Lionel Gallery?, by 11 on Nov 22, 2015 13:15:17 GMT 1, Aaw you knitted him socks for christmas, i knew you are a sweet sensible soul, give them to him he deserves them, start with the haiku nick one of my kids dolls should fit him! Thats cos you nicked those life-size ones from the front of Hamleys....again
Looks like I missed some abuse last night - luckily
Aaw you knitted him socks for christmas, i knew you are a sweet sensible soul, give them to him he deserves them, start with the haiku nick one of my kids dolls should fit him! Thats cos you nicked those life-size ones from the front of Hamleys....again Looks like I missed some abuse last night - luckily
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Lionel Gallery?, by msobel3 on Nov 23, 2015 4:52:40 GMT 1, Could you quote the prices here? Saves me an email The price of Girl with Balloon Signed is โฌ 115.000,- and Girl with Balloon Unsigned is โฌ 37.500 Are those prices really so crazy? That is what they are asking. Even if you can negotiate just a 10% discount... that brings the price down around 70K pounds for the signed copy and 23.5K for the unsigned. The Euro is really weak right now.
Could you quote the prices here? Saves me an email The price of Girl with Balloon Signed is โฌ 115.000,- and Girl with Balloon Unsigned is โฌ 37.500 Are those prices really so crazy? That is what they are asking. Even if you can negotiate just a 10% discount... that brings the price down around 70K pounds for the signed copy and 23.5K for the unsigned. The Euro is really weak right now.
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