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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by cyberkid on Nov 27, 2015 23:30:52 GMT 1, yes the red and pink acrylic is awesome !! if somebody can post some pics ??
yes the red and pink acrylic is awesome !! if somebody can post some pics ??
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by Graffiti Prints on Nov 28, 2015 11:14:03 GMT 1, managed to refund a few where it is plain obvious, mostly variants. been offered out to people who mailed.
anyone got tips about how to find out sellers from ebay, still 3 mains i can not place by addresses on ebay.
just starting to pack whatsons today had to wait for new tubes, 105cm massive, we will swallow extra postage charges. so annoying not packed and on ebay propa pisses me off.
managed to refund a few where it is plain obvious, mostly variants. been offered out to people who mailed.
anyone got tips about how to find out sellers from ebay, still 3 mains i can not place by addresses on ebay.
just starting to pack whatsons today had to wait for new tubes, 105cm massive, we will swallow extra postage charges. so annoying not packed and on ebay propa pisses me off.
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by Wilson on Nov 28, 2015 13:16:15 GMT 1, managed to refund a few where it is plain obvious, mostly variants. been offered out to people who mailed. anyone got tips about how to find out sellers from ebay, still 3 mains i can not place by addresses on ebay. just starting to pack whatsons today had to wait for new tubes, 105cm massive, we will swallow extra postage charges. so annoying not packed and on ebay propa pisses me off.
Buy them and then request cancellation on EBay.
You'll find their names
managed to refund a few where it is plain obvious, mostly variants. been offered out to people who mailed. anyone got tips about how to find out sellers from ebay, still 3 mains i can not place by addresses on ebay. just starting to pack whatsons today had to wait for new tubes, 105cm massive, we will swallow extra postage charges. so annoying not packed and on ebay propa pisses me off. Buy them and then request cancellation on EBay. You'll find their names |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by Nick on Nov 28, 2015 13:26:31 GMT 1, Similar thought here, use the buy it now options and once in paypal i'm pretty sure you're given the paypal address you're about to send money too. No doubt that will be the same as the one used on your big cartel site.
Only worry is if ebay gets involved and bans you're account for non paying on winning auctions, it's not in their interests to have their auctions cancelled, you can try contacting their customer services claiming those sales breach your terms and conditions.
Similar thought here, use the buy it now options and once in paypal i'm pretty sure you're given the paypal address you're about to send money too. No doubt that will be the same as the one used on your big cartel site.
Only worry is if ebay gets involved and bans you're account for non paying on winning auctions, it's not in their interests to have their auctions cancelled, you can try contacting their customer services claiming those sales breach your terms and conditions.
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by Graffiti Prints on Nov 28, 2015 13:47:55 GMT 1, Similar thought here, use the buy it now options and once in paypal i'm pretty sure you're given the paypal address you're about to send money too. No doubt that will be the same as the one used on your big cartel site. Only worry is if ebay gets involved and bans you're account for non paying on winning auctions, it's not in their interests to have their auctions cancelled, you can try contacting their customer services claiming those sales breach your terms and conditions.
Seems to underhand to be honest packing like a nutter should go out Monday - Wednesday tubes are metal big
Similar thought here, use the buy it now options and once in paypal i'm pretty sure you're given the paypal address you're about to send money too. No doubt that will be the same as the one used on your big cartel site. Only worry is if ebay gets involved and bans you're account for non paying on winning auctions, it's not in their interests to have their auctions cancelled, you can try contacting their customer services claiming those sales breach your terms and conditions. Seems to underhand to be honest packing like a nutter should go out Monday - Wednesday tubes are metal big |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by Art Fan 2011 on Nov 28, 2015 14:01:09 GMT 1, Some of the sellers locations are pretty specific so should make it a bit easier to trace, saw a Desert version sell earlier with the seller based in "Carle Place" New York - cant be many of the 20 going there  - Those tubes must be massive, guna be a long weekend !
Some of the sellers locations are pretty specific so should make it a bit easier to trace, saw a Desert version sell earlier with the seller based in "Carle Place" New York - cant be many of the 20 going there - Those tubes must be massive, guna be a long weekend ! |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by Liverpool ste123 on Nov 28, 2015 14:07:12 GMT 1, GP are you getting any of my PM's? 
GP are you getting any of my PM's? |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by 11 on Nov 28, 2015 14:17:11 GMT 1, GP are you getting any of my PM's?
I do have a very nice Handsprayed Stencil on Paper of the Toucan - edition of only 2. Not a Print - every bit was spray painted & tagged by hand (an editioned original), if anyone is interested.
GP are you getting any of my PM's? No - we all blocked you long time back I do have a very nice Handsprayed Stencil on Paper of the Toucan - edition of only 2. Not a Print - every bit was spray painted & tagged by hand (an editioned original), if anyone is interested. |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by .dappy on Nov 28, 2015 14:34:15 GMT 1, GP are you getting any of my PM's? No - we all blocked you long time back ย I do have a very nice Handsprayed Stencil on Paper of the Toucan - edition of only 2. Not a Print - every bit was spray painted & tagged by hand (an editioned original), if anyone is interested. ย
+++ GUARDIAN +++
Please do not hijack someone else's Sale Thread.
GP are you getting any of my PM's? No - we all blocked you long time back ย I do have a very nice Handsprayed Stencil on Paper of the Toucan - edition of only 2. Not a Print - every bit was spray painted & tagged by hand (an editioned original), if anyone is interested. ย +++ GUARDIAN +++ Please do not hijack someone else's Sale Thread. |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by Liverpool ste123 on Nov 28, 2015 14:34:45 GMT 1, Thought had crossed my mind...ha
Appreciate GP are busy but PM'd prior to the launch!
I'm one of Martin Whatson's fan base as his images are very family friendly. Think I've earned my stripes though by buying 90% of my pieces on the secondary market! In fact, I'm struggling to think which, if any I've actually scored on release?
So if ANYONE has any decent pieces then hook me up. I can't be doing with putting anything in the Wanted section as too many profiteers out there now. The genuine people with a genuine concern will look at this thread & hopefully that's where I can still maintain a fair priced print
On a finishing note my blood's only just cooling now from the Dancer drop!lol
Thought had crossed my mind...ha Appreciate GP are busy but PM'd prior to the launch! I'm one of Martin Whatson's fan base as his images are very family friendly. Think I've earned my stripes though by buying 90% of my pieces on the secondary market! In fact, I'm struggling to think which, if any I've actually scored on release? So if ANYONE has any decent pieces then hook me up. I can't be doing with putting anything in the Wanted section as too many profiteers out there now. The genuine people with a genuine concern will look at this thread & hopefully that's where I can still maintain a fair priced print On a finishing note my blood's only just cooling now from the Dancer drop!lol |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by Graffiti Prints on Nov 28, 2015 15:42:05 GMT 1, All spares we had from cancelation have been allocated mainly to over sales
Only passed 3 on to a list well over 50.
All gone now that's it.
On a brighter note I do have 2 kunstrasen fighting a blank paper mains
first two to email at info@graffitiprints.com can have them
All spares we had from cancelation have been allocated mainly to over sales
Only passed 3 on to a list well over 50.
All gone now that's it.
On a brighter note I do have 2 kunstrasen fighting a blank paper mains
first two to email at info@graffitiprints.com can have them
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by davievegas on Nov 28, 2015 17:42:19 GMT 1, Similar thought here, use the buy it now options and once in paypal i'm pretty sure you're given the paypal address you're about to send money too. No doubt that will be the same as the one used on your big cartel site. Only worry is if ebay gets involved and bans you're account for non paying on winning auctions, it's not in their interests to have their auctions cancelled, you can try contacting their customer services claiming those sales breach your terms and conditions.
Yup. This is what Shepard fairey does. He makes fake ebay accounts and hits "buy it now" to get the sellers matching info and bans the buyers. Only way to stop flippers
Similar thought here, use the buy it now options and once in paypal i'm pretty sure you're given the paypal address you're about to send money too. No doubt that will be the same as the one used on your big cartel site. Only worry is if ebay gets involved and bans you're account for non paying on winning auctions, it's not in their interests to have their auctions cancelled, you can try contacting their customer services claiming those sales breach your terms and conditions. Yup. This is what Shepard fairey does. He makes fake ebay accounts and hits "buy it now" to get the sellers matching info and bans the buyers. Only way to stop flippers |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by natstan on Nov 28, 2015 18:05:05 GMT 1, When dealing with underhanded people, you've gotta use underhanded means as well.
When dealing with underhanded people, you've gotta use underhanded means as well.
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by Argiebaji on Nov 28, 2015 18:52:50 GMT 1, Hi there Forum people..
As stated I'm after a Whatson "Dancer" for the wall.. Ed175 or other edition... Willing to pay over what you paid of course... Discretion assured.... ยฃ400 ono ... ? I'm a UK buyer looking for a UK seller... Let me know..?
Hi there Forum people..
As stated I'm after a Whatson "Dancer" for the wall.. Ed175 or other edition... Willing to pay over what you paid of course... Discretion assured.... ยฃ400 ono ... ? I'm a UK buyer looking for a UK seller... Let me know..?
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by Argiebaji on Nov 28, 2015 19:06:41 GMT 1, All spares we had from cancelation have been allocated mainly to over sales Only passed 3 on to a list well over 50. All gone now that's it. On a brighter note I do have 2 kunstrasen fighting a blank paper mains first two to email at info@graffitiprints.com can have them
To be fair, it's tough for GP. There are many of us that have bought lots of prints/art etc from them. Then we miss out on a high demand print ie MW "dancer".
Then we contact them to grab a spare that's left over.... However we miss out again...
GP not only need to keep their existing customers happy, they also need to keep new customers happy too... Inevitably some will miss out...on this occasion it's me & possibly you too.... They are between a rock and a hard place....
All spares we had from cancelation have been allocated mainly to over sales Only passed 3 on to a list well over 50. All gone now that's it. On a brighter note I do have 2 kunstrasen fighting a blank paper mains first two to email at info@graffitiprints.com can have them To be fair, it's tough for GP. There are many of us that have bought lots of prints/art etc from them. Then we miss out on a high demand print ie MW "dancer". Then we contact them to grab a spare that's left over.... However we miss out again... GP not only need to keep their existing customers happy, they also need to keep new customers happy too... Inevitably some will miss out...on this occasion it's me & possibly you too.... They are between a rock and a hard place.... |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by b4ne on Nov 28, 2015 19:19:53 GMT 1, All spares we had from cancelation have been allocated mainly to over sales Only passed 3 on to a list well over 50. All gone now that's it. On a brighter note I do have 2 kunstrasen fighting a blank paper mains first two to email at info@graffitiprints.com can have them To be fair, it's tough for GP. There are many of us that have bought lots of prints/art etc from them. Then we miss out on a high demand print ie MW "dancer". Then we contact them to grab a spare that's left over.... However we miss out again... GP not only need to keep their existing customers happy, they also need to keep new customers happy too... Inevitably some will miss out...on this occasion it's me & possibly you too.... They are between a rock and a hard place....
You win some, you loose some. GP is doing a great Job.
All spares we had from cancelation have been allocated mainly to over sales Only passed 3 on to a list well over 50. All gone now that's it. On a brighter note I do have 2 kunstrasen fighting a blank paper mains first two to email at info@graffitiprints.com can have them To be fair, it's tough for GP. There are many of us that have bought lots of prints/art etc from them. Then we miss out on a high demand print ie MW "dancer". Then we contact them to grab a spare that's left over.... However we miss out again... GP not only need to keep their existing customers happy, they also need to keep new customers happy too... Inevitably some will miss out...on this occasion it's me & possibly you too.... They are between a rock and a hard place.... You win some, you loose some. GP is doing a great Job. |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by dono on Nov 29, 2015 15:00:31 GMT 1, Love MW. But this new release isnt in fact that new.. all the same. Martin my frend, why you dont change a bit more subject? : )
Love MW. But this new release isnt in fact that new.. all the same. Martin my frend, why you dont change a bit more subject? : )
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by frozen on Nov 30, 2015 22:34:24 GMT 1, Please send me a pm if you have Martin Whatson Dancer.
Interested in all variants.
Please send me a pm if you have Martin Whatson Dancer.
Interested in all variants.
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by krillebille on Dec 3, 2015 11:29:25 GMT 1, Drop me a PM with price if you have one to sell
Drop me a PM with price if you have one to sell
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by cyberkid on Dec 4, 2015 22:14:19 GMT 1, nobody ?
nobody ?
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by quayesy on Dec 5, 2015 14:50:38 GMT 1, One is up on ebay at the moment, be interesting to see what it ends up going for...
One is up on ebay at the moment, be interesting to see what it ends up going for...
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by quayesy on Dec 5, 2015 14:52:47 GMT 1, Doesnt seem to be many people willing to sell on here, seen one of these just go up on a well known auction site...
Doesnt seem to be many people willing to sell on here, seen one of these just go up on a well known auction site...
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by quayesy on Dec 5, 2015 14:56:14 GMT 1, I think this has Zebra potential
I've just got hold of a zebra and got it framed and up on the wall. They look great up.
I think this has Zebra potential Looks like you were right! Similar to en-pointe too. I've just got hold of a zebra and got it framed and up on the wall. They look great up. |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by quayesy on Dec 5, 2015 14:58:06 GMT 1, I missed out on the drop today! Sadly had other things on!  Like that GP has a pre-order and hopefully it's used properly for fans to receive pieces instead of ending up in flippers hands! I'll go stare at my En Points to get over the disappointment
I missed out on the drop today! Sadly had other things on! Like that GP has a pre-order and hopefully it's used properly for fans to receive pieces instead of ending up in flippers hands! I'll go stare at my En Points to get over the disappointment If you have an en point you shouldnt be two disappointed although would have been a great pair! |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by quayesy on Dec 5, 2015 15:00:45 GMT 1, Typical greed on the secondary market. No one's paying triple for something that is 2 hours old. Sorry for ya flippers. Sad part is ebay uk is full of more inflated prices then on US ebay. Gonna be tons of these things just sitting there. My buddy offered double the cost for the regular edition for his wife and was turned down LOL. Typical s**t show for releases. I'd like to also publicaly ridicule any gallery that offers pre orders and does not monitor them which allows market manipulation. Dont tell me you cant monitor who you sold your pre sales too and now they are on ebay within minutes. These same people buying pre orders are ripping off the secondary market and the galleries are allowing it since it's determining the market. Always scandal intentions being supported. My 2 cents. If anyone is selling one at cost our double price for regular edition, let me know. My buddy wants one for his wife for the holidays. I'm not a MW fan but trying to do a good deed. Thanks i agree with most of what your saying but you not thinking about how many sales we have had and how we have to sort them out. on every release we do we compile a spreadsheet with name, email and address against a number for records. this is done from paypal and takes a while, i will have it finished by noon tomorrow. obviously it annoys us as much as you, ebay just after release with the prints not even packed. done a few refunds where it is obvious and tomorrow we will look again with the full list complied. you can not for example in big cartel pull up all black sales on whatson and check ebay.. we are a small artisan print company with tiny costs thats why we can sell prints at the prices we do. we 100% buy into that prints are for fans and should be priced accordingly always have, whatson and this image esp is bigger than he has ever been, interest was mental. we kept pre orders at a minimum and kept as much as we could for online, but again you must understand we have genuine very good customers, which any business turning away would be mad.. hardest part of a release like this is the after mails ranging from lovely missed out ones where you feel sorry for them to right nasty ones calling us worse than s**te. can not win but trying our best...
Do you find a lot of the flippers are from the US? A few guys have commented that bigcartel seems to mean they get to them first, but it always seems that their are always a lot of MWs up for sale in the US!
Typical greed on the secondary market. No one's paying triple for something that is 2 hours old. Sorry for ya flippers. Sad part is ebay uk is full of more inflated prices then on US ebay. Gonna be tons of these things just sitting there. My buddy offered double the cost for the regular edition for his wife and was turned down LOL. Typical s**t show for releases. I'd like to also publicaly ridicule any gallery that offers pre orders and does not monitor them which allows market manipulation. Dont tell me you cant monitor who you sold your pre sales too and now they are on ebay within minutes. These same people buying pre orders are ripping off the secondary market and the galleries are allowing it since it's determining the market. Always scandal intentions being supported. My 2 cents. If anyone is selling one at cost our double price for regular edition, let me know. My buddy wants one for his wife for the holidays. I'm not a MW fan but trying to do a good deed. Thanks i agree with most of what your saying but you not thinking about how many sales we have had and how we have to sort them out. on every release we do we compile a spreadsheet with name, email and address against a number for records. this is done from paypal and takes a while, i will have it finished by noon tomorrow. obviously it annoys us as much as you, ebay just after release with the prints not even packed. done a few refunds where it is obvious and tomorrow we will look again with the full list complied. you can not for example in big cartel pull up all black sales on whatson and check ebay.. we are a small artisan print company with tiny costs thats why we can sell prints at the prices we do. we 100% buy into that prints are for fans and should be priced accordingly always have, whatson and this image esp is bigger than he has ever been, interest was mental. we kept pre orders at a minimum and kept as much as we could for online, but again you must understand we have genuine very good customers, which any business turning away would be mad.. hardest part of a release like this is the after mails ranging from lovely missed out ones where you feel sorry for them to right nasty ones calling us worse than s**te. can not win but trying our best... Do you find a lot of the flippers are from the US? A few guys have commented that bigcartel seems to mean they get to them first, but it always seems that their are always a lot of MWs up for sale in the US! |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by scarylarry on Dec 5, 2015 15:08:24 GMT 1, i agree with most of what your saying but you not thinking about how many sales we have had and how we have to sort them out. on every release we do we compile a spreadsheet with name, email and address against a number for records. this is done from paypal and takes a while, i will have it finished by noon tomorrow. obviously it annoys us as much as you, ebay just after release with the prints not even packed. done a few refunds where it is obvious and tomorrow we will look again with the full list complied. you can not for example in big cartel pull up all black sales on whatson and check ebay.. we are a small artisan print company with tiny costs thats why we can sell prints at the prices we do. we 100% buy into that prints are for fans and should be priced accordingly always have, whatson and this image esp is bigger than he has ever been, interest was mental. we kept pre orders at a minimum and kept as much as we could for online, but again you must understand we have genuine very good customers, which any business turning away would be mad.. hardest part of a release like this is the after mails ranging from lovely missed out ones where you feel sorry for them to right nasty ones calling us worse than s**te. can not win but trying our best... Do you find a lot of the flippers are from the US? A few guys have commented that bigcartel seems to mean they get to them first, but it always seems that their are always a lot of MWs up for sale in the US!ย
You're delusional if you think all the "flippers" are from the states...
i agree with most of what your saying but you not thinking about how many sales we have had and how we have to sort them out. on every release we do we compile a spreadsheet with name, email and address against a number for records. this is done from paypal and takes a while, i will have it finished by noon tomorrow. obviously it annoys us as much as you, ebay just after release with the prints not even packed. done a few refunds where it is obvious and tomorrow we will look again with the full list complied. you can not for example in big cartel pull up all black sales on whatson and check ebay.. we are a small artisan print company with tiny costs thats why we can sell prints at the prices we do. we 100% buy into that prints are for fans and should be priced accordingly always have, whatson and this image esp is bigger than he has ever been, interest was mental. we kept pre orders at a minimum and kept as much as we could for online, but again you must understand we have genuine very good customers, which any business turning away would be mad.. hardest part of a release like this is the after mails ranging from lovely missed out ones where you feel sorry for them to right nasty ones calling us worse than s**te. can not win but trying our best... Do you find a lot of the flippers are from the US? A few guys have commented that bigcartel seems to mean they get to them first, but it always seems that their are always a lot of MWs up for sale in the US!ย You're delusional if you think all the "flippers" are from the states... |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by quayesy on Dec 5, 2015 15:17:24 GMT 1, Do you find a lot of the flippers are from the US? A few guys have commented that bigcartel seems to mean they get to them first, but it always seems that their are always a lot of MWs up for sale in the US! You're delusional if you think all the "flippers" are from the states...
Do you find a lot of the flippers are from the US? A few guys have commented that bigcartel seems to mean they get to them first, but it always seems that their are always a lot of MWs up for sale in the US! You're delusional if you think all the "flippers" are from the states... Chill Larry, I never said all! I just said there seem to be a lot of MWs on ebay from the states. |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by dreadnatty on Dec 5, 2015 15:59:09 GMT 1, Do you find a lot of the flippers are from the US? A few guys have commented that bigcartel seems to mean they get to them first, but it always seems that their are always a lot of MWs up for sale in the US! You're delusional if you think all the "flippers" are from the states...
Do you find a lot of the flippers are from the US? A few guys have commented that bigcartel seems to mean they get to them first, but it always seems that their are always a lot of MWs up for sale in the US! You're delusional if you think all the "flippers" are from the states... Pretty sure nobody from the states has flipped STIK baby |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by scarylarry on Dec 5, 2015 16:05:39 GMT 1, You're delusional if you think all the "flippers" are from the states... Pretty sure nobody from the states has flipped STIK baby
Exactly.
You're delusional if you think all the "flippers" are from the states... Pretty sure nobody from the states has flipped STIK baby Exactly. |
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Martin Whatson โข Dancer Print, by Steph Rat Catcher on Dec 5, 2015 16:35:15 GMT 1, You're delusional if you think all the "flippers" are from the states... Pretty sure nobody from the states has flipped STIK baby
yet! X
You're delusional if you think all the "flippers" are from the states... Pretty sure nobody from the states has flipped STIK baby yet! X |
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- Those tubes must be massive, guna be a long weekend !
