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Donald Trump, by WOOF on Apr 14, 2018 4:46:07 GMT 1, Yeah there's really no way of talking to you ppl. Sigh. Circlejerk in your echochamber all you like, I'm out The feelings mutual. Kinda like watching FOXNews as you right wingers fap each other off to Stevie Wonder hits. Woah woah, leave stevie wonder out of this...
Yeah there's really no way of talking to you ppl. Sigh. Circlejerk in your echochamber all you like, I'm out The feelings mutual. Kinda like watching FOXNews as you right wingers fap each other off to Stevie Wonder hits. Woah woah, leave stevie wonder out of this...
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Donald Trump, by amsterdam9697 on Apr 14, 2018 5:30:18 GMT 1, Apologies to Stevie
Apologies to Stevie
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Donald Trump, by racket on Apr 26, 2018 20:29:53 GMT 1, I know there's a few Pie fans here. Interesting interview with Tom Walker (creator)... thought I'd stick it here since he touches on Trump, brexit etc..
I know there's a few Pie fans here. Interesting interview with Tom Walker (creator)... thought I'd stick it here since he touches on Trump, brexit etc..
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 2:14:31 GMT 1, How about Kanye?
How about Kanye?
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kalm
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Donald Trump, by kalm on Apr 27, 2018 3:22:31 GMT 1, Everything is a scam now...even the US Presidency.
Everything is a scam now...even the US Presidency.
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Donald Trump, by d.r. perseus on Apr 27, 2018 4:01:51 GMT 1, How about Kanye?
Lol. He has been acknowledged as mostly out of his damn mind in the US for years. Left or right it's amusing to see one group adopt and one bash based on one line of thought
How about Kanye? Lol. He has been acknowledged as mostly out of his damn mind in the US for years. Left or right it's amusing to see one group adopt and one bash based on one line of thought
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Donald Trump, by moron on Apr 28, 2018 19:58:03 GMT 1, How about Kanye? Kanye is not stupid, he comes across as a bit of a joke and he can't sing but he is smart and has some good political and other views.
If people buy into the Kanye and Kim promotion and buy their often unoriginal tat, it just goes to show what hype and a good pr machine can do to sell crap.
How about Kanye? Kanye is not stupid, he comes across as a bit of a joke and he can't sing but he is smart and has some good political and other views. If people buy into the Kanye and Kim promotion and buy their often unoriginal tat, it just goes to show what hype and a good pr machine can do to sell crap.
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Donald Trump, by moron on Apr 28, 2018 19:59:34 GMT 1,
Would this have happened if Obama or Hillary was president?
Would this have happened if Obama or Hillary was president?
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Donald Trump, by jp on Apr 28, 2018 22:32:43 GMT 1, Would this have happened if Obama or Hillary was president? Do you not actually know this kind of meeting has happened twice before, in 2000, and again in 2007, with no tangible results?
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/dont-let-the-korea-summit-hype-fool-you-weve-been-here-before/2018/04/27/d9fad7ba-4a2d-11e8-827e-190efaf1f1ee_story.html?
The meeting between the leaders of North and South Korea was acclaimed as โhistoric.โ The two leaders hugged, โsmiled broadly, shook each otherโs hand vigorously and toasted each other with glasses of champagne.โ Reporters noted that the โopening formalities seemed surprisingly relaxed, exceeding the expectations of many people, including perhaps those of the principals themselves. The South Korean leader said we must โproceed together on a path of reconciliation and cooperation.โ The North Korean leader replied that โyou will not be disappointed.โ
Sound familiar? It should, because the news coverage of the 2000 meeting between South Korean President Kim Dae-jung and North Korean leader Kim Jong Il in Pyongyang parallels the euphoria over Fridayโs meeting in Panmunjom between Moon Jae-in and Kim Jong Un, Kim Jong Ilโs son. If anything, the 2000 meeting produced more tangible results: Not only declarations about ending the Korean War and uniting the two countries, but also concrete steps toward creating a joint South Korean-North Korean industrial park in Kaesong , allow South Korean tourists to visit the North, and to reunify families long divided by the demilitarized zone. Between 1998 and 2008, South Korea provided some $8 billion in economic assistance to North Korea in the hope that all of this aid would create a kinder, gentler regime. Kim Dae-jung won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2000 for his efforts.
And yet the Sunshine Policy, so widely heralded at the time, is now widely judged a failure. Despite North Koreaโs promises, it did nothing to ease the repression of its populace or to end its nuclear and missile programs. It turned out Kim Dae-jung only achieved that โhistoricโ 2000 summit by offering Kim Jong Il a $500 million bribe. Another summit was held in 2007, arranged by Moon Jae-in, then an aide to President Roh Moo-hyun, and it too was rapturously acclaimed. But the next year, a conservative government took power in Seoul and ended the Sunshine Policy.
Would this have happened if Obama or Hillary was president? Do you not actually know this kind of meeting has happened twice before, in 2000, and again in 2007, with no tangible results? www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/dont-let-the-korea-summit-hype-fool-you-weve-been-here-before/2018/04/27/d9fad7ba-4a2d-11e8-827e-190efaf1f1ee_story.html?The meeting between the leaders of North and South Korea was acclaimed as โhistoric.โ The two leaders hugged, โsmiled broadly, shook each otherโs hand vigorously and toasted each other with glasses of champagne.โ Reporters noted that the โopening formalities seemed surprisingly relaxed, exceeding the expectations of many people, including perhaps those of the principals themselves. The South Korean leader said we must โproceed together on a path of reconciliation and cooperation.โ The North Korean leader replied that โyou will not be disappointed.โ Sound familiar? It should, because the news coverage of the 2000 meeting between South Korean President Kim Dae-jung and North Korean leader Kim Jong Il in Pyongyang parallels the euphoria over Fridayโs meeting in Panmunjom between Moon Jae-in and Kim Jong Un, Kim Jong Ilโs son. If anything, the 2000 meeting produced more tangible results: Not only declarations about ending the Korean War and uniting the two countries, but also concrete steps toward creating a joint South Korean-North Korean industrial park in Kaesong , allow South Korean tourists to visit the North, and to reunify families long divided by the demilitarized zone. Between 1998 and 2008, South Korea provided some $8 billion in economic assistance to North Korea in the hope that all of this aid would create a kinder, gentler regime. Kim Dae-jung won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2000 for his efforts. And yet the Sunshine Policy, so widely heralded at the time, is now widely judged a failure. Despite North Koreaโs promises, it did nothing to ease the repression of its populace or to end its nuclear and missile programs. It turned out Kim Dae-jung only achieved that โhistoricโ 2000 summit by offering Kim Jong Il a $500 million bribe. Another summit was held in 2007, arranged by Moon Jae-in, then an aide to President Roh Moo-hyun, and it too was rapturously acclaimed. But the next year, a conservative government took power in Seoul and ended the Sunshine Policy.
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Donald Trump, by .dappy on Apr 29, 2018 0:00:56 GMT 1, ... trump did not even buy his wife FLOTUS a birthday present because 'he was too busy' got her 'a nice card' though ... so that's OK ...
... trump did not even buy his wife FLOTUS a birthday present because 'he was too busy' got her 'a nice card' though ... so that's OK ...
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 2:54:40 GMT 1, Haha the Kanye thing is so great to follow, from the right that suddenly embraces a lunatic, to the left that goes mental because one of 'their own' goes against their echochamber groupthink. I just love politics with twitter etc.
Haha the Kanye thing is so great to follow, from the right that suddenly embraces a lunatic, to the left that goes mental because one of 'their own' goes against their echochamber groupthink. I just love politics with twitter etc.
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Donald Trump, by nex on Apr 29, 2018 3:30:48 GMT 1, Haha the Kanye thing is so great to follow, from the right that suddenly embraces a lunatic, to the left that goes mental because one of 'their own' goes against their echochamber groupthink. I just love politics with twitter etc.
One of โtheir ownโ
Seriously
You make this shite up on the fly eh
Haha the Kanye thing is so great to follow, from the right that suddenly embraces a lunatic, to the left that goes mental because one of 'their own' goes against their echochamber groupthink. I just love politics with twitter etc. One of โtheir ownโ Seriously You make this shite up on the fly eh
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 3:53:03 GMT 1, Haha the Kanye thing is so great to follow, from the right that suddenly embraces a lunatic, to the left that goes mental because one of 'their own' goes against their echochamber groupthink. I just love politics with twitter etc. One of โtheir ownโ Seriously You make thiss**te up on the fly eh Name one black celeb conservative. On the fly if you must.
Haha the Kanye thing is so great to follow, from the right that suddenly embraces a lunatic, to the left that goes mental because one of 'their own' goes against their echochamber groupthink. I just love politics with twitter etc. One of โtheir ownโ Seriously You make thiss**te up on the fly eh Name one black celeb conservative. On the fly if you must.
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 3:56:34 GMT 1, Nah, you can't. Because when you are black you are obliged to vote left because the right are all racist (narrative). Hence the 'one of their own'. Lunatic as Kanye is, he raised a very, very, very important issue which I'm glad is getting some traction among minorities in the US.
Nah, you can't. Because when you are black you are obliged to vote left because the right are all racist (narrative). Hence the 'one of their own'. Lunatic as Kanye is, he raised a very, very, very important issue which I'm glad is getting some traction among minorities in the US.
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 4:20:58 GMT 1, Nah, you can't. Because when you are black you are obliged to vote left because the right are all racist (narrative). Hence the 'one of their own'. Lunatic as Kanye is, he raised a very, very, very important issue which I'm glad is getting some traction among minorities in the US. The only thing Kanye has underscored is that narcissistic megalomaniac lunatics still support Trump... No surprise there.
Nah, you can't. Because when you are black you are obliged to vote left because the right are all racist (narrative). Hence the 'one of their own'. Lunatic as Kanye is, he raised a very, very, very important issue which I'm glad is getting some traction among minorities in the US. The only thing Kanye has underscored is that narcissistic megalomaniac lunatics still support Trump... No surprise there.
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 4:27:10 GMT 1, Nah, you can't. Because when you are black you are obliged to vote left because the right are all racist (narrative). Hence the 'one of their own'. Lunatic as Kanye is, he raised a very, very, very important issue which I'm glad is getting some traction among minorities in the US. The only thing Kanye has underscored is that narcissistic megalomaniac lunatics still support Trump... No surprise there. Given that we agree on your spot on description of Kanye, you are still missing the point. Please google Candace Owens and educate yourself, if you are a lefty you are in for a mindblowing treat.
Nah, you can't. Because when you are black you are obliged to vote left because the right are all racist (narrative). Hence the 'one of their own'. Lunatic as Kanye is, he raised a very, very, very important issue which I'm glad is getting some traction among minorities in the US. The only thing Kanye has underscored is that narcissistic megalomaniac lunatics still support Trump... No surprise there. Given that we agree on your spot on description of Kanye, you are still missing the point. Please google Candace Owens and educate yourself, if you are a lefty you are in for a mindblowing treat.
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 4:28:31 GMT 1, Here's some help.
Here's some help.
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amsterdam9697
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Donald Trump, by amsterdam9697 on Apr 29, 2018 6:06:37 GMT 1, Man, it's always nice to see a Dutch Nationalist trying to explain US geopolitics. Speaking of groupthink and echochambers... look in das mirror, mein heir.
Man, it's always nice to see a Dutch Nationalist trying to explain US geopolitics. Speaking of groupthink and echochambers... look in das mirror, mein heir.
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Donald Trump, by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 6:52:56 GMT 1, Man, it's always nice to see a Dutch Nationalist trying to explain US geopolitics. Speaking of groupthink and echochambers... look in das mirror, mein heir. Don't speak German to Dutchies, mmkay. Also: Herr, not heir.
And watch Candace Owens on Rubin report. She's awesome.
Man, it's always nice to see a Dutch Nationalist trying to explain US geopolitics. Speaking of groupthink and echochambers... look in das mirror, mein heir. Don't speak German to Dutchies, mmkay. Also: Herr, not heir. And watch Candace Owens on Rubin report. She's awesome.
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Donald Trump, by biglebowski on May 3, 2018 8:30:06 GMT 1, He has some mad ramblings, but you are missing the point of the poorly worded slavery line he came out with. He is saying that by playing the victim card in 2018 and continuing to embrace the slave mentality, black people are holding themselves back. Its something which many other black celebrities have eluded to (Morgan freeman, densely), and if you agree or not its a conversation that should be had in the USA
He has some mad ramblings, but you are missing the point of the poorly worded slavery line he came out with. He is saying that by playing the victim card in 2018 and continuing to embrace the slave mentality, black people are holding themselves back. Its something which many other black celebrities have eluded to (Morgan freeman, densely), and if you agree or not its a conversation that should be had in the USA
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Donald Trump, by Jaylove on May 3, 2018 12:49:57 GMT 1, He has some mad ramblings, but you are missing the point of the poorly worded slavery line he came out with. He is saying that by playing the victim card in 2018 and continuing to embrace the slave mentality, black people are holding themselves back. Its something which many other black celebrities have eluded to (Morgan freeman, densely), and if you agree or not its a conversation that should be had in the USA Other conversations need to be had first, though. Kanye is an idiot point blank.
He has some mad ramblings, but you are missing the point of the poorly worded slavery line he came out with. He is saying that by playing the victim card in 2018 and continuing to embrace the slave mentality, black people are holding themselves back. Its something which many other black celebrities have eluded to (Morgan freeman, densely), and if you agree or not its a conversation that should be had in the USA Other conversations need to be had first, though. Kanye is an idiot point blank.
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Donald Trump, by biglebowski on May 3, 2018 14:56:52 GMT 1, You really ought to articulate your view better. It is this exact mentality of labeling people you disagree with as 'idiots' that is fueling the rise of Trump, Brexit etc.
I don't like Donald Trump, but would I ever call a Trump supporter an idiot? No. I would sit down with them and explain why he is not the best man to run the free world. We need to be more open to conversation and engaging in debate to convince people to question their beliefs. Labels and blanket statements simply fuel cognitive dissonance and if it continues, will lead to further polarization and 'group think' in the Western world.
My overall message as a centrist on most of these debates...arguments have nuance and complexities, lets stop being so positive vs negative, right vs left, democrat vs republican, brexiteer vs remainer...lets think things through a bit more and engage in meaningful discussions to really hash out the truth.
You really ought to articulate your view better. It is this exact mentality of labeling people you disagree with as 'idiots' that is fueling the rise of Trump, Brexit etc.
I don't like Donald Trump, but would I ever call a Trump supporter an idiot? No. I would sit down with them and explain why he is not the best man to run the free world. We need to be more open to conversation and engaging in debate to convince people to question their beliefs. Labels and blanket statements simply fuel cognitive dissonance and if it continues, will lead to further polarization and 'group think' in the Western world.
My overall message as a centrist on most of these debates...arguments have nuance and complexities, lets stop being so positive vs negative, right vs left, democrat vs republican, brexiteer vs remainer...lets think things through a bit more and engage in meaningful discussions to really hash out the truth.
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Donald Trump, by stelio on May 3, 2018 15:10:29 GMT 1, You really ought to articulate your view better. It is this exact mentality of labeling people you disagree with as 'idiots' that is fueling the rise of Trump, Brexit etc. I don't like Donald Trump, but would I ever call a Trump supporter an idiot? No. I would sit down with them and explain why he is not the best man to run the free world. We need to be more open to conversation and engaging in debate to convince people to question their beliefs. Labels and blanket statements simply fuel cognitive dissonance and if it continues, will lead to further polarization and 'group think' in the Western world. My overall message as a centrist on most of these debates...arguments have nuance and complexities, lets stop being so positive vs negative, right vs left, democrat vs republican, brexiteer vs remainer...lets think things through a bit more and engage in meaningful discussions to really hash out the truth.
The conversation is never going to progress past the name calling as long as we have team politics (Red vs Blue, them vs us) mentality. The sad part most dont realize its the same two headed snake with both parties so taking a stance on either just perpetuates the cycle. Money/Lobbyists in American politics I believe is the one of the main issue as representatives who get elected might start with moral ambiguity but all they seem to be corrupted by the system in place at some point in their career. Truly believe the only way to change things is for there to be some global cataclysmic event that wipes out a huge portion of the population and then world has to start over. But then again we are probably doomed to repeat history if that were to occur.
You really ought to articulate your view better. It is this exact mentality of labeling people you disagree with as 'idiots' that is fueling the rise of Trump, Brexit etc. I don't like Donald Trump, but would I ever call a Trump supporter an idiot? No. I would sit down with them and explain why he is not the best man to run the free world. We need to be more open to conversation and engaging in debate to convince people to question their beliefs. Labels and blanket statements simply fuel cognitive dissonance and if it continues, will lead to further polarization and 'group think' in the Western world. My overall message as a centrist on most of these debates...arguments have nuance and complexities, lets stop being so positive vs negative, right vs left, democrat vs republican, brexiteer vs remainer...lets think things through a bit more and engage in meaningful discussions to really hash out the truth. The conversation is never going to progress past the name calling as long as we have team politics (Red vs Blue, them vs us) mentality. The sad part most dont realize its the same two headed snake with both parties so taking a stance on either just perpetuates the cycle. Money/Lobbyists in American politics I believe is the one of the main issue as representatives who get elected might start with moral ambiguity but all they seem to be corrupted by the system in place at some point in their career. Truly believe the only way to change things is for there to be some global cataclysmic event that wipes out a huge portion of the population and then world has to start over. But then again we are probably doomed to repeat history if that were to occur.
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Donald Trump, by Matt on May 3, 2018 16:16:38 GMT 1, You really ought to articulate your view better. It is this exact mentality of labeling people you disagree with as 'idiots' that is fueling the rise of Trump, Brexit etc. I don't like Donald Trump, but would I ever call a Trump supporter an idiot? No. I would sit down with them and explain why he is not the best man to run the free world. We need to be more open to conversation and engaging in debate to convince people to question their beliefs. Labels and blanket statements simply fuel cognitive dissonance and if it continues, will lead to further polarization and 'group think' in the Western world. My overall message as a centrist on most of these debates...arguments have nuance and complexities, lets stop being so positive vs negative, right vs left, democrat vs republican, brexiteer vs remainer...lets think things through a bit more and engage in meaningful discussions to really hash out the truth.
I read this and thought I had landed on the wrong forum
Amen to those sensible words
You really ought to articulate your view better. It is this exact mentality of labeling people you disagree with as 'idiots' that is fueling the rise of Trump, Brexit etc. I don't like Donald Trump, but would I ever call a Trump supporter an idiot? No. I would sit down with them and explain why he is not the best man to run the free world. We need to be more open to conversation and engaging in debate to convince people to question their beliefs. Labels and blanket statements simply fuel cognitive dissonance and if it continues, will lead to further polarization and 'group think' in the Western world. My overall message as a centrist on most of these debates...arguments have nuance and complexities, lets stop being so positive vs negative, right vs left, democrat vs republican, brexiteer vs remainer...lets think things through a bit more and engage in meaningful discussions to really hash out the truth. I read this and thought I had landed on the wrong forum Amen to those sensible words
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Donald Trump, by qest on May 3, 2018 16:47:17 GMT 1, those words are sensible but i don't think there's anything sensible about the initial comment that "black people are holding themselves back." and any assertion like that is a total nonstarter for a reasonable, informed discussion. people are entitled to opinions, but not all opinions are owed the same deference or respectful engagement.
sorry to jump into a controversial topic like that on post #3
those words are sensible but i don't think there's anything sensible about the initial comment that "black people are holding themselves back." and any assertion like that is a total nonstarter for a reasonable, informed discussion. people are entitled to opinions, but not all opinions are owed the same deference or respectful engagement.
sorry to jump into a controversial topic like that on post #3
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Donald Trump, by biglebowski on May 3, 2018 17:02:44 GMT 1, Please re-read the post of mine that you are referring too. I said 'he said' this, referring to the fact that this is what Kanye West was saying. If you read my comment, I offered no opinion on the view that the slave mentality is holding back black people, I was merely stating that this is the view that Kanye West holds and he was trying to articulate, I never entered my opinion into the debate.
Now for my actual opinion. I do not believe that making such a statement (which as you will now see, I did not), should be a non starter to a conversation. My view is that all ideas ought to be debated, that is how the best ideas rise to the top and drive forward progress in society. I don't feel that an art forum is the best place to have the debate on whether the slave mentality amongst black people in america is hindering their chances at progress, but I do believe it is a debate that ought to happen amongst the black community in america. As a white Jewish male from London, I don't think its my place to have that debate.
Please re-read the post of mine that you are referring too. I said 'he said' this, referring to the fact that this is what Kanye West was saying. If you read my comment, I offered no opinion on the view that the slave mentality is holding back black people, I was merely stating that this is the view that Kanye West holds and he was trying to articulate, I never entered my opinion into the debate.
Now for my actual opinion. I do not believe that making such a statement (which as you will now see, I did not), should be a non starter to a conversation. My view is that all ideas ought to be debated, that is how the best ideas rise to the top and drive forward progress in society. I don't feel that an art forum is the best place to have the debate on whether the slave mentality amongst black people in america is hindering their chances at progress, but I do believe it is a debate that ought to happen amongst the black community in america. As a white Jewish male from London, I don't think its my place to have that debate.
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Donald Trump, by qest on May 3, 2018 17:10:13 GMT 1, i don't think it's your place to have that debate either.
i don't think it's your place to have that debate either.
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Donald Trump, by biglebowski on May 3, 2018 17:20:59 GMT 1, Okay well we agree on that. But you saying that the mere mention of that topic is 'a total nonstarter' for a conversation is exactly the problem here. For too long the left has shy'ed away from controversial topics, allowing the right to pick them up and claim to be the holders of free speech.
All topics should be up for debate from all sides of the political spectrum. That way the best ideas rise to the top, it worked for so long in Western democracies but for some reason the left no longer wants to engage in meaningful debate... Hence the uprising of Trump and Brexit.
Its a sad vicious cycle which starts with the postmodern left and is really a danger to our societies
Okay well we agree on that. But you saying that the mere mention of that topic is 'a total nonstarter' for a conversation is exactly the problem here. For too long the left has shy'ed away from controversial topics, allowing the right to pick them up and claim to be the holders of free speech.
All topics should be up for debate from all sides of the political spectrum. That way the best ideas rise to the top, it worked for so long in Western democracies but for some reason the left no longer wants to engage in meaningful debate... Hence the uprising of Trump and Brexit.
Its a sad vicious cycle which starts with the postmodern left and is really a danger to our societies
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Donald Trump, by d.r. perseus on May 4, 2018 16:40:20 GMT 1, He has some mad ramblings, but you are missing the point of the poorly worded slavery line he came out with. He is saying that by playing the victim card in 2018 and continuing to embrace the slave mentality, black people are holding themselves back. Its something which many other black celebrities have eluded to (Morgan freeman, densely), and if you agree or not its a conversation that should be had in the USA
Working in health care in a low income community in Los Angeles I can assure you the barriers to success, healthy living, and education are not there due to playing the victim, Embracing slave mentality, and holding themselves back.
People love to speak on communities they don't understand or know intimately. It's odd.
He has some mad ramblings, but you are missing the point of the poorly worded slavery line he came out with. He is saying that by playing the victim card in 2018 and continuing to embrace the slave mentality, black people are holding themselves back. Its something which many other black celebrities have eluded to (Morgan freeman, densely), and if you agree or not its a conversation that should be had in the USA Working in health care in a low income community in Los Angeles I can assure you the barriers to success, healthy living, and education are not there due to playing the victim, Embracing slave mentality, and holding themselves back. People love to speak on communities they don't understand or know intimately. It's odd.
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Donald Trump, by biglebowski on May 4, 2018 17:05:09 GMT 1, He has some mad ramblings, but you are missing the point of the poorly worded slavery line he came out with. He is saying that by playing the victim card in 2018 and continuing to embrace the slave mentality, black people are holding themselves back. Its something which many other black celebrities have eluded to (Morgan freeman, densely), and if you agree or not its a conversation that should be had in the USA Working in health care in a low income community in Los Angeles I can assure you the barriers to success, healthy living, and education are not there due to playing the victim, Embracing slave mentality, and holding themselves back. People love to speak on communities they don't understand or know intimately. It's odd.
For the second time please re-read my comment, I didn't say that was my opinion, but that is what I believe Kanye was trying to say and he has since clarified. Considering he comes from such a community, he has every right to comment on it and hold his opinion.
Plus I don't think anyone is saying that the state of education and health care in low income areas isn't a problem, its a huge one. But to believe you cannot succeed regardless of those difficulties is a BAD mentality, even though it might be a hell of a lot harder!
He has some mad ramblings, but you are missing the point of the poorly worded slavery line he came out with. He is saying that by playing the victim card in 2018 and continuing to embrace the slave mentality, black people are holding themselves back. Its something which many other black celebrities have eluded to (Morgan freeman, densely), and if you agree or not its a conversation that should be had in the USA Working in health care in a low income community in Los Angeles I can assure you the barriers to success, healthy living, and education are not there due to playing the victim, Embracing slave mentality, and holding themselves back. People love to speak on communities they don't understand or know intimately. It's odd. For the second time please re-read my comment, I didn't say that was my opinion, but that is what I believe Kanye was trying to say and he has since clarified. Considering he comes from such a community, he has every right to comment on it and hold his opinion. Plus I don't think anyone is saying that the state of education and health care in low income areas isn't a problem, its a huge one. But to believe you cannot succeed regardless of those difficulties is a BAD mentality, even though it might be a hell of a lot harder!
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