DrWhite
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**Waste of Time**, by DrWhite on Dec 15, 2015 19:22:50 GMT 1, That's a pity the OP was a great member to deal with - plenty on here have had good experience dealing with him - oh well another member gone.
That's a pity the OP was a great member to deal with - plenty on here have had good experience dealing with him - oh well another member gone.
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iamzero
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**Waste of Time**, by iamzero on Dec 15, 2015 19:43:47 GMT 1, I can't see what all the fuss is about. The OP isn't going anywhere... Hes a tougher member than that and has given out at least as much as he's got over time in his various guises. He'll probably pop up with another username and continue to trade as usual and so he should now that he's classed as gallery.
I can't see what all the fuss is about. The OP isn't going anywhere... Hes a tougher member than that and has given out at least as much as he's got over time in his various guises. He'll probably pop up with another username and continue to trade as usual and so he should now that he's classed as gallery.
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rebelate
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**Waste of Time**, by rebelate on Dec 15, 2015 20:05:37 GMT 1, That's a pity the OP was a great member to deal with - plenty on here have had good experience dealing with him - oh well another member gone. Dr White I respect your opinion, don't get me wrong...
But it seems like he was frustrated that he bought damaged goods then threw a hissy fit because people didn't want to pay an amount that he feels suitable for said damaged goods. Then he began acting like a child and name calling... Forum rule violations apart from all this of course.
I don't know about you, but if a "gallery" is capable of such instability on such a "small scale" I'm not sure that I would want to be in a deal with him for 10s of thousands of dollars and for some reason or another the deal goes south and the "gallery" needs to take the burden of responsibility.
I've seen people that act like this be very undependable when put under pressure. Just my .02
That's a pity the OP was a great member to deal with - plenty on here have had good experience dealing with him - oh well another member gone. Dr White I respect your opinion, don't get me wrong... But it seems like he was frustrated that he bought damaged goods then threw a hissy fit because people didn't want to pay an amount that he feels suitable for said damaged goods. Then he began acting like a child and name calling... Forum rule violations apart from all this of course. I don't know about you, but if a "gallery" is capable of such instability on such a "small scale" I'm not sure that I would want to be in a deal with him for 10s of thousands of dollars and for some reason or another the deal goes south and the "gallery" needs to take the burden of responsibility. I've seen people that act like this be very undependable when put under pressure. Just my .02
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Dungle
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**Waste of Time**, by Dungle on Dec 15, 2015 20:18:36 GMT 1, I can't see what all the fuss is about. The OP isn't going anywhere... Hes a tougher member than that and has given out at least as much as he's got over time in his various guises. He'll probably pop up with another username and continue to trade as usual and so he should now that he's classed as gallery.
He's deleted his account already that's why it says 0 posts
I can't see what all the fuss is about. The OP isn't going anywhere... Hes a tougher member than that and has given out at least as much as he's got over time in his various guises. He'll probably pop up with another username and continue to trade as usual and so he should now that he's classed as gallery. He's deleted his account already that's why it says 0 posts
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iamzero
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**Waste of Time**, by iamzero on Dec 15, 2015 20:23:48 GMT 1, He has a history of this I think? He spent quite some time and effort in the past denying he was a trader until he set up the CAT account. He'll be back.
He has a history of this I think? He spent quite some time and effort in the past denying he was a trader until he set up the CAT account. He'll be back.
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**Waste of Time**, by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 22:36:20 GMT 1, Give hem some napkings Pore kid....
Give hem some napkings Pore kid....
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.dappy
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**Waste of Time**, by .dappy on Dec 15, 2015 22:43:31 GMT 1, Give hem some napkings Pore kid.... ... are you in a bad mood tonight?
Give hem some napkings Pore kid.... ... are you in a bad mood tonight?
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DrWhite
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**Waste of Time**, by DrWhite on Dec 15, 2015 23:20:34 GMT 1, That's a pity the OP was a great member to deal with - plenty on here have had good experience dealing with him - oh well another member gone. Dr White I respect your opinion, don't get me wrong... But it seems like he was frustrated that he bought damaged goods then threw a hissy fit because people didn't want to pay an amount that he feels suitable for said damaged goods. ย Then he began acting like a child and name calling... Forum rule violations apart from all this of course. I don't know about you, but if a "gallery" is capable of such instability on such a "small scale" I'm not sure that I would want to be in a deal with him for 10s of thousands of dollars and for some reason or another the deal goes south and the "gallery" needs to take the burden of responsibility.ย I've seen people that act like this be very undependable when put under pressure. Just my .02
This is a pretty hypothetical scenario - there are a lot of people who are very private / discrete who have successfully completed sales & purchases with CAT - and for the 10s of thousands you suggest. I think that it is unfair to question a dealers moral standing or business ethics when he cannot defend himself and it could have repercussions on his business and reputation especially if you've never dealt with them ? Just my .02
That's a pity the OP was a great member to deal with - plenty on here have had good experience dealing with him - oh well another member gone. Dr White I respect your opinion, don't get me wrong... But it seems like he was frustrated that he bought damaged goods then threw a hissy fit because people didn't want to pay an amount that he feels suitable for said damaged goods. ย Then he began acting like a child and name calling... Forum rule violations apart from all this of course. I don't know about you, but if a "gallery" is capable of such instability on such a "small scale" I'm not sure that I would want to be in a deal with him for 10s of thousands of dollars and for some reason or another the deal goes south and the "gallery" needs to take the burden of responsibility.ย I've seen people that act like this be very undependable when put under pressure. Just my .02 This is a pretty hypothetical scenario - there are a lot of people who are very private / discrete who have successfully completed sales & purchases with CAT - and for the 10s of thousands you suggest. I think that it is unfair to question a dealers moral standing or business ethics when he cannot defend himself and it could have repercussions on his business and reputation especially if you've never dealt with them ? Just my .02
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**Waste of Time**, by Deleted on Dec 15, 2015 23:47:25 GMT 1, These prints by all accounts were a bit of a dogs dinner and people made offers that were deemed low by the seller but may well have been fair; who knows. But it seems that if anyone dare question that any 'lesser' banksy is worth under ยฃ3k these days irregardless of the condition is accused of low balling. However, following auction prices I often see better value on them (inc buyer's premium) in those sales than on here.
These prints by all accounts were a bit of a dogs dinner and people made offers that were deemed low by the seller but may well have been fair; who knows. But it seems that if anyone dare question that any 'lesser' banksy is worth under ยฃ3k these days irregardless of the condition is accused of low balling. However, following auction prices I often see better value on them (inc buyer's premium) in those sales than on here.
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Poster Bob
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**Waste of Time**, by Poster Bob on Dec 16, 2015 1:09:40 GMT 1, Give hem some napkings Pore kid.... Oh, that Engrish!
Give hem some napkings Pore kid.... Oh, that Engrish!
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pippyt75
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**Waste of Time**, by pippyt75 on Dec 16, 2015 1:33:43 GMT 1, CAT seems to regularly offer banksy prints at fair prices to me. Not that I can afford them but that's not the point. Plus he comes across like a decent guy to me and I thought the grannies raffle was a genuinely nice gesture. Talks from the hip a bit but so do a lot on here. I'm not a long term member so don't have an opinion on the backstory but think the place will be poorer without him.
CAT seems to regularly offer banksy prints at fair prices to me. Not that I can afford them but that's not the point. Plus he comes across like a decent guy to me and I thought the grannies raffle was a genuinely nice gesture. Talks from the hip a bit but so do a lot on here. I'm not a long term member so don't have an opinion on the backstory but think the place will be poorer without him.
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Wilson
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**Waste of Time**, by Wilson on Dec 16, 2015 9:47:45 GMT 1, I thought the customer was always right
I thought the customer was always right
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**Waste of Time**, by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 9:55:38 GMT 1, Give hem some napkings Pore kid.... ... are you in a bad mood tonight?
Ups..... Sorry! I forgot we can't express ourselves, only guardins can....
Give hem some napkings Pore kid.... ... are you in a bad mood tonight? Ups..... Sorry! I forgot we can't express ourselves, only guardins can....
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.dappy
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**Waste of Time**, by .dappy on Dec 16, 2015 10:00:25 GMT 1, I haven't stopped you expressing anything ...
I haven't stopped you expressing anything ...
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barsukauk
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**Waste of Time**, by barsukauk on Dec 16, 2015 10:03:48 GMT 1, Dr White I respect your opinion, don't get me wrong... But it seems like he was frustrated that he bought damaged goods then threw a hissy fit because people didn't want to pay an amount that he feels suitable for said damaged goods. ย Then he began acting like a child and name calling... Forum rule violations apart from all this of course. I don't know about you, but if a "gallery" is capable of such instability on such a "small scale" I'm not sure that I would want to be in a deal with him for 10s of thousands of dollars and for some reason or another the deal goes south and the "gallery" needs to take the burden of responsibility.ย I've seen people that act like this be very undependable when put under pressure. Just my .02 This is a pretty hypothetical scenario - there are a lot of people who are very private / discrete who have successfully completed sales & purchases with CAT - and for the 10s of thousands you suggest. I think that it is unfair to question a dealers moral standing or business ethics when he cannot defend himself and it could have repercussions on his business and reputation especially if you've never dealt with them ? Just my .02 [
I can't believe you said this, when you are the 1st one accusing peoples and galleries than are not in this forum..
PD: I don't think he have any obligation to sale the print on the forum, he put those up for sale with price, ยฃ3500! Not sure why people PM hem with low offer when those a ยฃ3500 are a bargain
Dr White I respect your opinion, don't get me wrong... But it seems like he was frustrated that he bought damaged goods then threw a hissy fit because people didn't want to pay an amount that he feels suitable for said damaged goods. ย Then he began acting like a child and name calling... Forum rule violations apart from all this of course. I don't know about you, but if a "gallery" is capable of such instability on such a "small scale" I'm not sure that I would want to be in a deal with him for 10s of thousands of dollars and for some reason or another the deal goes south and the "gallery" needs to take the burden of responsibility.ย I've seen people that act like this be very undependable when put under pressure. Just my .02 This is a pretty hypothetical scenario - there are a lot of people who are very private / discrete who have successfully completed sales & purchases with CAT - and for the 10s of thousands you suggest. I think that it is unfair to question a dealers moral standing or business ethics when he cannot defend himself and it could have repercussions on his business and reputation especially if you've never dealt with them ? Just my .02 [ I can't believe you said this, when you are the 1st one accusing peoples and galleries than are not in this forum.. PD: I don't think he have any obligation to sale the print on the forum, he put those up for sale with price, ยฃ3500! Not sure why people PM hem with low offer when those a ยฃ3500 are a bargain
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DrWhite
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**Waste of Time**, by DrWhite on Dec 16, 2015 10:21:03 GMT 1, This is a pretty hypothetical scenario - there are a lot of people who are very private / discrete who have successfully completed sales & purchases with CAT - and for the 10s of thousands you suggest. I think that it is unfair to question a dealers moral standing or business ethics when he cannot defend himself and it could have repercussions on his business and reputation especially if you've never dealt with them ? Just my .02 [ I can't believe you said this, when you are the 1st one accusing peoples and galleries than are not in this forum.. PD: I don't think he have any obligation to sale the print on the forum, he put those up for sale with price, ยฃ3500! Not sure why people PM hem with low offer when those a ยฃ3500 are a bargain
Nobody is talking about newartonline here Luis
This is a pretty hypothetical scenario - there are a lot of people who are very private / discrete who have successfully completed sales & purchases with CAT - and for the 10s of thousands you suggest. I think that it is unfair to question a dealers moral standing or business ethics when he cannot defend himself and it could have repercussions on his business and reputation especially if you've never dealt with them ? Just my .02 [ I can't believe you said this, when you are the 1st one accusing peoples and galleries than are not in this forum.. PD: I don't think he have any obligation to sale the print on the forum, he put those up for sale with price, ยฃ3500! Not sure why people PM hem with low offer when those a ยฃ3500 are a bargain Nobody is talking about newartonline here Luis
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barsukauk
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**Waste of Time**, by barsukauk on Dec 16, 2015 10:34:57 GMT 1, [ I can't believe you said this, when you are the 1st one accusing peoples and galleries than are not in this forum.. PD: I don't think he have any obligation to sale the print on the forum, he put those up for sale with price, ยฃ3500! Not sure why people PM hem with low offer when those a ยฃ3500 are a bargain Nobody is talking about newartonline here Luis you do when you accused peoples!!
[ I can't believe you said this, when you are the 1st one accusing peoples and galleries than are not in this forum.. PD: I don't think he have any obligation to sale the print on the forum, he put those up for sale with price, ยฃ3500! Not sure why people PM hem with low offer when those a ยฃ3500 are a bargain Nobody is talking about newartonline here Luis you do when you accused peoples!!
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DrWhite
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**Waste of Time**, by DrWhite on Dec 16, 2015 10:36:45 GMT 1, Nobody is talking about newartonline here Luis you do when you accused peoples!!
Just PM me if you want to b**ch- no one is interested in reading it
Nobody is talking about newartonline here Luis you do when you accused peoples!! Just PM me if you want to b**ch- no one is interested in reading it
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barsukauk
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**Waste of Time**, by barsukauk on Dec 16, 2015 10:37:47 GMT 1, i have PM YOU
i have PM YOU
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**Waste of Time**, by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 10:40:54 GMT 1, It's sad when threads eventually and almost inevitably turn to bickering, esp. members sale threads.
I may be wrong here but I don't think that the Rats had a fixed buy price initially.
It would be good if the OP of a thread had the option to delete negative comments like on instagram but I suppose that will never happen.
It's sad when threads eventually and almost inevitably turn to bickering, esp. members sale threads.
I may be wrong here but I don't think that the Rats had a fixed buy price initially.
It would be good if the OP of a thread had the option to delete negative comments like on instagram but I suppose that will never happen.
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**Waste of Time**, by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 12:30:35 GMT 1, So is the moral of the story that unframed prints kept flat or in the tube are the ones to go for when investing?
So is the moral of the story that unframed prints kept flat or in the tube are the ones to go for when investing?
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trapnel1
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**Waste of Time**, by trapnel1 on Dec 16, 2015 13:22:40 GMT 1, So is the moral of the story that unframed prints kept flat or in the tube are the ones to go for when investing? For expensive prints, or significant investments, then at the least they should be inspected out of the frame. Many framed prints are absolutely fine when checked, in my experience.
So is the moral of the story that unframed prints kept flat or in the tube are the ones to go for when investing? For expensive prints, or significant investments, then at the least they should be inspected out of the frame. Many framed prints are absolutely fine when checked, in my experience.
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mla
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**Waste of Time**, by mla on Dec 16, 2015 13:51:56 GMT 1, It's sad when threads eventually and almost inevitably turn to bickering, esp. members sale threads. I may be wrong here but I don't think that the Rats had a fixed buy price initially. It would be good if the OP of a thread had the option to delete negative comments like on instagram but I suppose that will never happen. You are definitely right. There was no price. When one plays the "offers" game, they are going to get some less than desirable offers. It's all part of the game, as let's be real here, that game is structured such that you are looking for the "greatest fool". As a "professional", he should have a thicker skin for that sort of thing, especially when he is selling on a free platform.
Regardless, I have no doubt that he'll be back.
It's sad when threads eventually and almost inevitably turn to bickering, esp. members sale threads. I may be wrong here but I don't think that the Rats had a fixed buy price initially. It would be good if the OP of a thread had the option to delete negative comments like on instagram but I suppose that will never happen. You are definitely right. There was no price. When one plays the "offers" game, they are going to get some less than desirable offers. It's all part of the game, as let's be real here, that game is structured such that you are looking for the "greatest fool". As a "professional", he should have a thicker skin for that sort of thing, especially when he is selling on a free platform. Regardless, I have no doubt that he'll be back.
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**Waste of Time**, by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 21:03:34 GMT 1, So many first world problems
Jut bleach the fucking things like everyone else ;-) Or trim the edges? or cover the dark bit and just show the light bit, like reverse framing
ยฃ3900 and thats my lot
So many first world problems
Jut bleach the fucking things like everyone else ;-) Or trim the edges? or cover the dark bit and just show the light bit, like reverse framing
ยฃ3900 and thats my lot
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**Waste of Time**, by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 21:09:54 GMT 1, LOL at you M, swearing and 'ting.
I'm a broker now!, only Bs prints though, we at LF connect sellers with buyers see, a bit like Grindr for Banksy's but with our pants on.
LOL at you M, swearing and 'ting.
I'm a broker now!, only Bs prints though, we at LF connect sellers with buyers see, a bit like Grindr for Banksy's but with our pants on.
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leebs
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**Waste of Time**, by leebs on Dec 16, 2015 22:56:46 GMT 1, For an urban art forum there are a lot of people that like to preach about rules all of the time
For an urban art forum there are a lot of people that like to preach about rules all of the time
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Cornish Crayon
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**Waste of Time**, by Cornish Crayon on Dec 16, 2015 23:06:56 GMT 1, For an urban art forum there are a lot of people that like to preach about rules all of the time Are there rules ? f**k nobody told me !!!!
For an urban art forum there are a lot of people that like to preach about rules all of the time Are there rules ? f**k nobody told me !!!!
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Ottomatik
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**Waste of Time**, by Ottomatik on Dec 16, 2015 23:22:24 GMT 1, For an urban art forum there are a lot of people that like to preach about rules all of the time For an urban art forum, there are a lot of men who act like boys all of the time. Hence the rules.
For an urban art forum there are a lot of people that like to preach about rules all of the time For an urban art forum, there are a lot of men who act like boys all of the time. Hence the rules.
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**Waste of Time**, by Deleted on Dec 16, 2015 23:28:16 GMT 1, For an urban art forum there are a lot of people that like to preach about rules all of the time For an urban art forum, there are a lot of men who act like boys all of the time. Hence the rules. Goes for graffiti also.....
For an urban art forum there are a lot of people that like to preach about rules all of the time For an urban art forum, there are a lot of men who act like boys all of the time. Hence the rules. Goes for graffiti also.....
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**Waste of Time**, by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 20:03:20 GMT 1, For an urban art forum there are a lot of people that like to preach about rules all of the time For an urban art forum, there are a lot of men who act like boys all of the time. Hence the rules. thats boyist
For an urban art forum there are a lot of people that like to preach about rules all of the time For an urban art forum, there are a lot of men who act like boys all of the time. Hence the rules. thats boyist
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