globalplanb
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by globalplanb on Feb 18, 2016 18:01:27 GMT 1, I've been looking through some older threads, Feb 2015, and found some disappointing comments about an artist whose work I've liked and followed for some time and was wondering whether his art was now on the downward slope or this period was just not a good time for him but he's now pulled through. Anyone wish to comment and bring me up to speed with what's been happening? The artist in question was Martin Whatson is he a good guy or have the tables sadly turned.
Read more: urbanartassociation.com/conversation/1810732#ixzz40XUqFmOU
I've been looking through some older threads, Feb 2015, and found some disappointing comments about an artist whose work I've liked and followed for some time and was wondering whether his art was now on the downward slope or this period was just not a good time for him but he's now pulled through. Anyone wish to comment and bring me up to speed with what's been happening? The artist in question was Martin Whatson is he a good guy or have the tables sadly turned. Read more: urbanartassociation.com/conversation/1810732#ixzz40XUqFmOU
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iamzero
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by iamzero on Feb 18, 2016 18:05:50 GMT 1, Do the opinions of strangers matter if you like the artwork?
Do the opinions of strangers matter if you like the artwork?
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by Happy Shopper on Feb 18, 2016 18:08:42 GMT 1, He got some stick when he started (on this and other boards), but has been flavour of the month for quite a while with many.
Some for, some against, but buy what you enjoy!
He got some stick when he started (on this and other boards), but has been flavour of the month for quite a while with many.
Some for, some against, but buy what you enjoy!
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rgc
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by rgc on Feb 18, 2016 18:12:15 GMT 1, Do the opinions of strangers matter if you like the artwork?
Agree with this post, opinions of others shouldn't change whether you like an image or not. not clear if the original post was more of a query from an investor worried about sliding prices??
Do the opinions of strangers matter if you like the artwork? Agree with this post, opinions of others shouldn't change whether you like an image or not. not clear if the original post was more of a query from an investor worried about sliding prices??
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 18:22:37 GMT 1, Here is one more opinion from me about this artist: Martin is an allround good guy. Straight up, polite, sincere, honest and very talented. IMO.
Here is one more opinion from me about this artist: Martin is an allround good guy. Straight up, polite, sincere, honest and very talented. IMO.
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Black Apple Art
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by Black Apple Art on Feb 18, 2016 18:35:27 GMT 1, From my personal experience couldn't find a nicer guy and definitely a blast to be out with on the town. I've never heard a bad word spoken about Martin as a person. Not sure if this post was directed towards him personally or his work.
From my personal experience couldn't find a nicer guy and definitely a blast to be out with on the town. I've never heard a bad word spoken about Martin as a person. Not sure if this post was directed towards him personally or his work.
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globalplanb
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by globalplanb on Feb 18, 2016 19:12:31 GMT 1, From my personal experience couldn't find a nicer guy and definitely good a blast to be out with on the town. I've never heard a bad word spoken about Martin as a person. Not sure if this post was directed towards him personally or his work. ive posted this thread as stated above, I've read some bad press going back to 2014 slating his work and the guys at Graffiti Print. I'm like yourself I've had dealings with both MW and GP going back to 2013 and found either one great characters. Only this slating they've received was stumbled across on a routine browse to do with work by MW as I've just released a piece to a good friend stating how good this guys work is and how I expect him to do even better in the future, so I don't particularly want to be left with egg on my face if things have now gone south. Therefore,out of respect for my friends l would appreciate some open discussion this is not personal.
From my personal experience couldn't find a nicer guy and definitely good a blast to be out with on the town. I've never heard a bad word spoken about Martin as a person. Not sure if this post was directed towards him personally or his work. ive posted this thread as stated above, I've read some bad press going back to 2014 slating his work and the guys at Graffiti Print. I'm like yourself I've had dealings with both MW and GP going back to 2013 and found either one great characters. Only this slating they've received was stumbled across on a routine browse to do with work by MW as I've just released a piece to a good friend stating how good this guys work is and how I expect him to do even better in the future, so I don't particularly want to be left with egg on my face if things have now gone south. Therefore,out of respect for my friends l would appreciate some open discussion this is not personal.
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duggyfresh
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by duggyfresh on Feb 18, 2016 19:27:13 GMT 1, A lot of the criticisms against Martin was using other peoples images and the tagging thing. I personally like some of Martins stuff and owned it in the past. If you told your friend buy this piece and it will be a great investment and make you lots of money, then you might have egg on your face. But if your friend enjoys the artwork then its all good. Martin has been around for a while and most of his pieces will sell above cost on the secondary market but not by a huge amount.
A lot of the criticisms against Martin was using other peoples images and the tagging thing. I personally like some of Martins stuff and owned it in the past. If you told your friend buy this piece and it will be a great investment and make you lots of money, then you might have egg on your face. But if your friend enjoys the artwork then its all good. Martin has been around for a while and most of his pieces will sell above cost on the secondary market but not by a huge amount.
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globalplanb
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by globalplanb on Feb 18, 2016 19:32:21 GMT 1, Do the opinions of strangers matter if you like the artwork? I know what you're saying and normally I'd say No! Only its a much more cynical world when it comes to sales. Unfortunately when you're trying to sell a piece of art, regardless of whether you personally like it or not, which carries with it some bad or mixed press the answer is sadly yes.
Do the opinions of strangers matter if you like the artwork? I know what you're saying and normally I'd say No! Only its a much more cynical world when it comes to sales. Unfortunately when you're trying to sell a piece of art, regardless of whether you personally like it or not, which carries with it some bad or mixed press the answer is sadly yes.
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globalplanb
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by globalplanb on Feb 18, 2016 19:40:12 GMT 1, He got some stick when he started (on this and other boards), but has been flavour of the month for quite a while with many. Some for, some against, but buy what you enjoy! Cheers for that I appreciate what you're saying only it's more about a sale I've recently made and a feeling of doubt/trust etc. Especially where friends are concerned.
He got some stick when he started (on this and other boards), but has been flavour of the month for quite a while with many. Some for, some against, but buy what you enjoy! Cheers for that I appreciate what you're saying only it's more about a sale I've recently made and a feeling of doubt/trust etc. Especially where friends are concerned.
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 19:42:35 GMT 1, what a horrible thread title
what a horrible thread title
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by Happy Shopper on Feb 18, 2016 19:52:20 GMT 1, He got some stick when he started (on this and other boards), but has been flavour of the month for quite a while with many. Some for, some against, but buy what you enjoy! Cheers for that I appreciate what you're saying only it's more about a sale I've recently made and a feeling of doubt/trust etc. Especially where friends are concerned. I guess it depends on how much you charged your friend for it then
He was hyped a bit (I think it's fair to say), and then people got a bit bored, and the images got worse. But that's not to say he won't come back with another popular print. He seems to be taking a break after releasing a lot quite quickly.
He got some stick when he started (on this and other boards), but has been flavour of the month for quite a while with many. Some for, some against, but buy what you enjoy! Cheers for that I appreciate what you're saying only it's more about a sale I've recently made and a feeling of doubt/trust etc. Especially where friends are concerned. I guess it depends on how much you charged your friend for it then He was hyped a bit (I think it's fair to say), and then people got a bit bored, and the images got worse. But that's not to say he won't come back with another popular print. He seems to be taking a break after releasing a lot quite quickly.
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globalplanb
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by globalplanb on Feb 18, 2016 19:52:31 GMT 1, Do the opinions of strangers matter if you like the artwork? Agree with this post, opinions of others shouldn't change whether you like an image or not. not clear if the original post was more of a query from an investor worried about sliding prices?? It's not about an investment that may go South but whether my friend will feel they have had a good deal should they read what I have. I would rather reverse the sale than make a bad one so was just looking for some reassurance
Do the opinions of strangers matter if you like the artwork? Agree with this post, opinions of others shouldn't change whether you like an image or not. not clear if the original post was more of a query from an investor worried about sliding prices?? It's not about an investment that may go South but whether my friend will feel they have had a good deal should they read what I have. I would rather reverse the sale than make a bad one so was just looking for some reassurance
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randomname
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by randomname on Feb 18, 2016 20:05:13 GMT 1, I was under the impression he copied the tagging thing from Dolk. And then kept doing it over and over and over again. But I could be wrong. Heard nothing but good things about him as a human, however.
I was under the impression he copied the tagging thing from Dolk. And then kept doing it over and over and over again. But I could be wrong. Heard nothing but good things about him as a human, however.
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globalplanb
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by globalplanb on Feb 18, 2016 20:06:01 GMT 1, A lot of the criticisms against Martin was using other peoples images and the tagging thing. I personally like some of Martins stuff and owned it in the past. If you told your friend buy this piece and it will be a great investment and make you lots of money, then you might have egg on your face. But if your friend enjoys the artwork then its all good. Martin has been around for a while and most of his pieces will sell above cost on the secondary market but not by a huge amount. Cheers for that. I'm hearing better stuff now than what I've read. I too have always liked MW's work. So onwards and upwards
A lot of the criticisms against Martin was using other peoples images and the tagging thing. I personally like some of Martins stuff and owned it in the past. If you told your friend buy this piece and it will be a great investment and make you lots of money, then you might have egg on your face. But if your friend enjoys the artwork then its all good. Martin has been around for a while and most of his pieces will sell above cost on the secondary market but not by a huge amount. Cheers for that. I'm hearing better stuff now than what I've read. I too have always liked MW's work. So onwards and upwards
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by Lroy on Feb 18, 2016 20:09:21 GMT 1, what a horrible thread title funny, reading this title, I thought that the subject was me lol ! leave Royston alone !!!!
what a horrible thread title funny, reading this title, I thought that the subject was me lol ! leave Royston alone !!!!
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duggyfresh
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by duggyfresh on Feb 18, 2016 20:13:00 GMT 1, His last release Dancer was a nice image and wall friendly, would happily have one of those. His en pointe print before I thought the woman's face looked a bit odd. Some of his collabs are also very good too.
His last release Dancer was a nice image and wall friendly, would happily have one of those. His en pointe print before I thought the woman's face looked a bit odd. Some of his collabs are also very good too.
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by Lroy on Feb 18, 2016 20:15:47 GMT 1, what a horrible thread title funny, reading this title, I thought that the subject was me lol ! leave Royston alone !!!!
Anyway , when I post , I have 40 views per weeks and one answer ( maybe a drunkard guy - and I thank him ! - searching his keys to enter in this forum) , and when a silly thread comes, everyone is sorting their armada and jumping on their keyboards ! Trust Troyston ! don't Vote Trumpston !
what a horrible thread title funny, reading this title, I thought that the subject was me lol ! leave Royston alone !!!! Anyway , when I post , I have 40 views per weeks and one answer ( maybe a drunkard guy - and I thank him ! - searching his keys to enter in this forum) , and when a silly thread comes, everyone is sorting their armada and jumping on their keyboards ! Trust Troyston ! don't Vote Trumpston !
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by Lroy on Feb 18, 2016 20:20:17 GMT 1, Now after MW , we should speak - again ? - about MBW. B. as Banksy could be the answer. But BMW is faster .. Vroom .., I hate cars.
Now after MW , we should speak - again ? - about MBW. B. as Banksy could be the answer. But BMW is faster .. Vroom .., I hate cars.
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globalplanb
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by globalplanb on Feb 18, 2016 20:30:21 GMT 1, Cheers for that I appreciate what you're saying only it's more about a sale I've recently made and a feeling of doubt/trust etc. Especially where friends are concerned. I guess it depends on how much you charged your friend for it then He was hyped a bit (I think it's fair to say), and then people got a bit bored, and the images got worse. But that's not to say he won't come back with another popular print. He seems to be taking a break after releasing a lot quite quickly. I had previously asked for a forum price check but to no avail then eventually found a gallery selling the same piece in the states so sold alittle under their price it seemed a tad high but reasonable considering the other piece was priced just for the print while mine was professionally framed with UVglass and hand delivered. Only my friend at the time was asking me about MW and I had praised him up quite a bit then I came across the slating.
Cheers for that I appreciate what you're saying only it's more about a sale I've recently made and a feeling of doubt/trust etc. Especially where friends are concerned. I guess it depends on how much you charged your friend for it then He was hyped a bit (I think it's fair to say), and then people got a bit bored, and the images got worse. But that's not to say he won't come back with another popular print. He seems to be taking a break after releasing a lot quite quickly. I had previously asked for a forum price check but to no avail then eventually found a gallery selling the same piece in the states so sold alittle under their price it seemed a tad high but reasonable considering the other piece was priced just for the print while mine was professionally framed with UVglass and hand delivered. Only my friend at the time was asking me about MW and I had praised him up quite a bit then I came across the slating.
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Black Apple Art
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by Black Apple Art on Feb 18, 2016 21:05:40 GMT 1, Now after MW , we should speak - again ? - about MBW. B. as Banksy could be the answer. But BMW is faster .. Vroom .., I hate cars. L-Roy hands down has the best posts on the forum...for entertainment value anyway.
Now after MW , we should speak - again ? - about MBW. B. as Banksy could be the answer. But BMW is faster .. Vroom .., I hate cars. L-Roy hands down has the best posts on the forum...for entertainment value anyway.
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 21:13:38 GMT 1, What's with the old thread? I tried to read it and was told I either didn't have access or that it had been moved.
What's with the old thread? I tried to read it and was told I either didn't have access or that it had been moved.
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by randomname on Feb 18, 2016 21:19:33 GMT 1, What's with the old thread? I tried to read it and was told I either didn't have access or that it had been moved. He posted a link to a private message.
What's with the old thread? I tried to read it and was told I either didn't have access or that it had been moved. He posted a link to a private message.
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by 11 on Feb 18, 2016 21:40:32 GMT 1, Haha well done - I was stumped
Haha well done - I was stumped
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 21:44:48 GMT 1, What's with the old thread? I tried to read it and was told I either didn't have access or that it had been moved. He posted a link to a private message.ย
How do you stumble upon a PM as the original poster has done ?
What's with the old thread? I tried to read it and was told I either didn't have access or that it had been moved. He posted a link to a private message.ย How do you stumble upon a PM as the original poster has done ?
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by guest8888 on Feb 18, 2016 21:48:57 GMT 1, It's hard for us to comment without knowing the print and the price. I know how you feel though, I dont like selling to friends as I worry that they haven't got a good deal and and end up giving them a bargain. As long as they enjoy it, it's all good though!
It's hard for us to comment without knowing the print and the price. I know how you feel though, I dont like selling to friends as I worry that they haven't got a good deal and and end up giving them a bargain. As long as they enjoy it, it's all good though!
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randomname
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by randomname on Feb 18, 2016 22:20:45 GMT 1, He posted a link to a private message. How do you stumble upon a PM as the original poster has done ? My guess is it's a private message between him and another member โ possibly Martin Whatson when he was active on the forum.
He posted a link to a private message. How do you stumble upon a PM as the original poster has done ? My guess is it's a private message between him and another member โ possibly Martin Whatson when he was active on the forum.
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by Deleted on Feb 18, 2016 23:10:34 GMT 1, How do you stumble upon a PM as the original poster has done ? My guess is it's a private message between him and another member โ possibly Martin Whatson when he was active on the forum. Ta
How do you stumble upon a PM as the original poster has done ? My guess is it's a private message between him and another member โ possibly Martin Whatson when he was active on the forum. Ta
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by Jangaloon on Feb 19, 2016 4:19:11 GMT 1, Martin is one of the nicest artists I've ever met. Very humble straight up guy, and great to drink some brews with
Martin is one of the nicest artists I've ever met. Very humble straight up guy, and great to drink some brews with
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Good guy Bad guy Leave this guy alone?, by thomasmer on Feb 19, 2016 6:08:05 GMT 1, Could any of his images stand in a serious space and take critique?
Whats next for him?
Could any of his images stand in a serious space and take critique?
Whats next for him?
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