mrblast
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by mrblast on Mar 27, 2016 19:10:38 GMT 1, Hi All,
For various reasons I have decided to sell the majority of my art collection. There are some desirable pieces (Banksy, Stik, etc), however, I have never sold any art before and am unsure of the best way to do it.
Obviously I've used ebay before but I'm wary of people abusing the buyer protection. Also, I'm not sure whether it will definitely find the right market.
Selling on here has its advantages but every sales thread seems to cause arguments and I'm genuinely not sure of the market value of some items.
So what medium is likely to obtain the best price whilst offering reasonable protection for me as the seller? Auction House? Gallery?
If auction house, are there any that are particularly suited to urban art? Are all the fees worth it? How do I find out about upcoming auctions?
If gallery, do they insist on buying from the seller or can they sell on your behalf and take a percentage? Is this effective?
Many thanks for any advice!
B
Hi All,
For various reasons I have decided to sell the majority of my art collection. There are some desirable pieces (Banksy, Stik, etc), however, I have never sold any art before and am unsure of the best way to do it.
Obviously I've used ebay before but I'm wary of people abusing the buyer protection. Also, I'm not sure whether it will definitely find the right market.
Selling on here has its advantages but every sales thread seems to cause arguments and I'm genuinely not sure of the market value of some items.
So what medium is likely to obtain the best price whilst offering reasonable protection for me as the seller? Auction House? Gallery?
If auction house, are there any that are particularly suited to urban art? Are all the fees worth it? How do I find out about upcoming auctions?
If gallery, do they insist on buying from the seller or can they sell on your behalf and take a percentage? Is this effective?
Many thanks for any advice!
B
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Dungle
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by Dungle on Mar 27, 2016 19:42:19 GMT 1, Well the new sales format here should mean that your threads remain un commented on.
Just post requesting offers and I'm sure you'll get plenty for the desirable pieces.
Auction selling is expensive and they will only want the very best that you have.
Just do some research before you sell either via auction results or use the search function on sales section here, or post asking advice on the prices section of the forum.
Well the new sales format here should mean that your threads remain un commented on.
Just post requesting offers and I'm sure you'll get plenty for the desirable pieces.
Auction selling is expensive and they will only want the very best that you have.
Just do some research before you sell either via auction results or use the search function on sales section here, or post asking advice on the prices section of the forum.
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by Daniel Silk on Mar 27, 2016 19:48:43 GMT 1, Selling on here has its advantages but every sales thread seems to cause arguments and I'm genuinely not sure of the market value of some items. The selling experience on here should be a bit more friendly now, so the problems you mention of arguments on sales threads will hopefully be a thing of the past.
Whenever you arrange a sale online and it's for a very valuable piece of Art I would always recommend to do the deal face to face, so the money and Art can be checked and everyone is happy.
Selling on here has its advantages but every sales thread seems to cause arguments and I'm genuinely not sure of the market value of some items. The selling experience on here should be a bit more friendly now, so the problems you mention of arguments on sales threads will hopefully be a thing of the past. Whenever you arrange a sale online and it's for a very valuable piece of Art I would always recommend to do the deal face to face, so the money and Art can be checked and everyone is happy.
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by Coach on Mar 27, 2016 19:55:20 GMT 1, Selling on here has its advantages but every sales thread seems to cause arguments and I'm genuinely not sure of the market value of some items. The selling experience on here should be a bit more friendly now, so the problems you mention of arguments on sales threads will hopefully be a thing of the past.ย Whenever you arrange a sale online and it's for a very valuable piece of Art I would always recommend to do the deal face to face, so the money and Art can be checked and everyone is happy.
Can I please ask, is it definitely staying like this then Dan? I also think that the OP was inaccurate when he said "every" sale thread led to arguments.
Selling on here has its advantages but every sales thread seems to cause arguments and I'm genuinely not sure of the market value of some items. The selling experience on here should be a bit more friendly now, so the problems you mention of arguments on sales threads will hopefully be a thing of the past.ย Whenever you arrange a sale online and it's for a very valuable piece of Art I would always recommend to do the deal face to face, so the money and Art can be checked and everyone is happy. Can I please ask, is it definitely staying like this then Dan? I also think that the OP was inaccurate when he said "every" sale thread led to arguments.
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cyberkid
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by cyberkid on Mar 27, 2016 19:57:57 GMT 1, are you selling only prints....or originals...
well, you should try to sell your blue chips by an auction house. In England Bloomsbury, Phillips or Bonhams. Maybe - you have to check the fees - Sotheby's & Christies...
Especially Urban Art in France by this auction houses: Artcurial (S.V.V.), Paris Tajan (S.V.V.), Paris I would offer UK stuff (Banksy, Stik....) in UK and french/ EU stuff (maybe Invader, Dran, JR) in Paris...
are you selling only prints....or originals...
well, you should try to sell your blue chips by an auction house. In England Bloomsbury, Phillips or Bonhams. Maybe - you have to check the fees - Sotheby's & Christies...
Especially Urban Art in France by this auction houses: Artcurial (S.V.V.), Paris Tajan (S.V.V.), Paris I would offer UK stuff (Banksy, Stik....) in UK and french/ EU stuff (maybe Invader, Dran, JR) in Paris...
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barsukauk
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by barsukauk on Mar 27, 2016 20:27:10 GMT 1, Selling on here has its advantages but every sales thread seems to cause arguments and I'm genuinely not sure of the market value of some items. The selling experience on here should be a bit more friendly now, so the problems you mention of arguments on sales threads will hopefully be a thing of the past.ย Whenever you arrange a sale online and it's for a very valuable piece of Art I would always recommend to do the deal face to face, so the money and Art can be checked and everyone is happy.
Is better like this, if you like to buy contact the buyer or seller! What is the point to see stupid comment in all The sales
Selling on here has its advantages but every sales thread seems to cause arguments and I'm genuinely not sure of the market value of some items. The selling experience on here should be a bit more friendly now, so the problems you mention of arguments on sales threads will hopefully be a thing of the past.ย Whenever you arrange a sale online and it's for a very valuable piece of Art I would always recommend to do the deal face to face, so the money and Art can be checked and everyone is happy. Is better like this, if you like to buy contact the buyer or seller! What is the point to see stupid comment in all The sales
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Feral Things
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by Feral Things on Mar 27, 2016 20:44:39 GMT 1, What is the point to see stupid comment in all The sales
Because the listing contains an innocent error? Because the piece for sale is fake? Because the piece is still available at source for less? Because the piece is being flipped and isn't in the seller's possession? Because the piece has been offered for sale in suspicious circumstances elsewhere? Because the piece doesn't have proper provenance? Because they're trying to sell a street piece? None of the above apply to the OP but I've seen comments flagging up all these issues before now so feel free to pick from any of the above.
What is the point to see stupid comment in all The sales Because the listing contains an innocent error? Because the piece for sale is fake? Because the piece is still available at source for less? Because the piece is being flipped and isn't in the seller's possession? Because the piece has been offered for sale in suspicious circumstances elsewhere? Because the piece doesn't have proper provenance? Because they're trying to sell a street piece? None of the above apply to the OP but I've seen comments flagging up all these issues before now so feel free to pick from any of the above.
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batemanz
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by batemanz on Mar 27, 2016 20:49:17 GMT 1, The selling experience on here should be a bit more friendly now, so the problems you mention of arguments on sales threads will hopefully be a thing of the past.ย Whenever you arrange a sale online and it's for a very valuable piece of Art I would always recommend to do the deal face to face, so the money and Art can be checked and everyone is happy. Can I please ask, is it definitely staying like this then Dan? I also think that the OP was inaccurate when he said "every" sale thread led to arguments.
Sorry but I think the phrase should be: The selling experience on here should be a bit more difficult now. No possibility to change, add, ask, answer etc.
The selling experience on here should be a bit more friendly now, so the problems you mention of arguments on sales threads will hopefully be a thing of the past.ย Whenever you arrange a sale online and it's for a very valuable piece of Art I would always recommend to do the deal face to face, so the money and Art can be checked and everyone is happy. Can I please ask, is it definitely staying like this then Dan? I also think that the OP was inaccurate when he said "every" sale thread led to arguments. Sorry but I think the phrase should be: The selling experience on here should be a bit more difficult now. No possibility to change, add, ask, answer etc.
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mrblast
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by mrblast on Mar 27, 2016 21:43:13 GMT 1, The selling experience on here should be a bit more friendly now, so the problems you mention of arguments on sales threads will hopefully be a thing of the past. Whenever you arrange a sale online and it's for a very valuable piece of Art I would always recommend to do the deal face to face, so the money and Art can be checked and everyone is happy. Can I please ask, is it definitely staying like this then Dan? I also think that the OP was inaccurate when he said "every" sale thread led to arguments. Yes, fair enough, not every sales thread causes arguments.
Going off the thread and the messages I've received, it seems people recommend selling on here as a good option? I've bought a number of items off here in the past but never sold anything so was unsure about how effective it was in practice.
If people do face to face deals how do they exchange cash? Literally hand over the cash? How does that work for expensive items? Or do a bank transfer? Do you hang around for two hours until the cash appears?
Are Bonhams any good for urban art? THe reason I ask is that there is one where I live (winchester) which would make things very convenient.
Thanks for the advice so far.
Sorry for all the questions!
The selling experience on here should be a bit more friendly now, so the problems you mention of arguments on sales threads will hopefully be a thing of the past. Whenever you arrange a sale online and it's for a very valuable piece of Art I would always recommend to do the deal face to face, so the money and Art can be checked and everyone is happy. Can I please ask, is it definitely staying like this then Dan? I also think that the OP was inaccurate when he said "every" sale thread led to arguments. Yes, fair enough, not every sales thread causes arguments. Going off the thread and the messages I've received, it seems people recommend selling on here as a good option? I've bought a number of items off here in the past but never sold anything so was unsure about how effective it was in practice. If people do face to face deals how do they exchange cash? Literally hand over the cash? How does that work for expensive items? Or do a bank transfer? Do you hang around for two hours until the cash appears? Are Bonhams any good for urban art? THe reason I ask is that there is one where I live (winchester) which would make things very convenient. Thanks for the advice so far. Sorry for all the questions!
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by Deleted on Mar 27, 2016 21:58:28 GMT 1, If people do face to face deals how do they exchange cash? Yes Literally hand over the cash? Yes How does that work for expensive items? Bigger notes Or do a bank transfer? It's almost instant these days Stick your work on here and then do your work on those interested. This forum is a good indicator of who's open and honest.
All my sales/purchases have been cash, either at home or in public spaces. Trust your instinct.
If people do face to face deals how do they exchange cash? Yes Literally hand over the cash? Yes How does that work for expensive items? Bigger notes Or do a bank transfer? It's almost instant these daysStick your work on here and then do your work on those interested. This forum is a good indicator of who's open and honest. All my sales/purchases have been cash, either at home or in public spaces. Trust your instinct.
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Aza
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by Aza on Mar 27, 2016 22:17:07 GMT 1, I've completed large bank transfers recently. It's instant nowadays.
I've completed large bank transfers recently. It's instant nowadays.
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chichi carter
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by chichi carter on Mar 28, 2016 16:31:46 GMT 1, As far as finding what the market value is for some of your pieces, the 'price check' threads seem to work well. At least I think they do. Some of the members are really up to date when it comes to the value of prints and will answer your questions pretty quickly. I've also contacted members who sold pieces I own via PM to know how much they sold for and they always replied. It really isn't that hard to find out the value of prints unless you have a rare, unique 'one-off' that has no sale history to go by. This 'PM offers via PM because I have no idea what my prints are worth' is just lazy (or greedy).
As far as finding what the market value is for some of your pieces, the 'price check' threads seem to work well. At least I think they do. Some of the members are really up to date when it comes to the value of prints and will answer your questions pretty quickly. I've also contacted members who sold pieces I own via PM to know how much they sold for and they always replied. It really isn't that hard to find out the value of prints unless you have a rare, unique 'one-off' that has no sale history to go by. This 'PM offers via PM because I have no idea what my prints are worth' is just lazy (or greedy).
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Shoeless
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by Shoeless on Mar 28, 2016 18:08:36 GMT 1, Fuck me....when did selling a piece of paper become such a complicated process?! You say you've bought from members here before yet are unsure of the forums effectiveness.....you're own experience demonstrates that it works fine, no? I think many are quick to dismiss non local buyers. You want money, I want art. I send PayPal payment, you send art. Deal done. Both buyer and seller are protected.
Good luck with everything though.
Fuck me....when did selling a piece of paper become such a complicated process?! You say you've bought from members here before yet are unsure of the forums effectiveness.....you're own experience demonstrates that it works fine, no? I think many are quick to dismiss non local buyers. You want money, I want art. I send PayPal payment, you send art. Deal done. Both buyer and seller are protected.
Good luck with everything though.
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Cornish Crayon
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by Cornish Crayon on Mar 28, 2016 18:14:25 GMT 1, Do big cash/art exchanges in a bank, right in front of a security camera, make sure the buyer is not wearing aviator glasses and has a beard.
Do big cash/art exchanges in a bank, right in front of a security camera, make sure the buyer is not wearing aviator glasses and has a beard.
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 18:22:57 GMT 1, f**k me....when did selling a piece of paper become such a complicated process?! I'd say when the discussion lands anywhere north of ยฃ7,000 for me personally.
f**k me....when did selling a piece of paper become such a complicated process?! I'd say when the discussion lands anywhere north of ยฃ7,000 for me personally.
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by Coach on Mar 28, 2016 18:57:24 GMT 1, f**k me....when did selling a piece of paper become such a complicated process?! You say you've bought from members here before yet are unsure of the forums effectiveness.....you're own experience demonstrates that it works fine, no? I think many are quick to dismiss non local buyers. You want money, I want art. I send PayPal payment, you send art. Deal done. Both buyer and seller are protected. Good luck with everything though.
Indeed. Many transactions as buyer and seller. Done just like that. If you are worried, ask for references. Only pay PayPal gift if you have good reason to trust the seller. Talk to each other about how the piece will be packed, whether it will be insured, who is responsible if it arrives damaged, so there are no misunderstandings. I can't comment on selling on eBay as I've never done it.
f**k me....when did selling a piece of paper become such a complicated process?! You say you've bought from members here before yet are unsure of the forums effectiveness.....you're own experience demonstrates that it works fine, no? I think many are quick to dismiss non local buyers. You want money, I want art. I send PayPal payment, you send art. Deal done. Both buyer and seller are protected. Good luck with everything though. Indeed. Many transactions as buyer and seller. Done just like that. If you are worried, ask for references. Only pay PayPal gift if you have good reason to trust the seller. Talk to each other about how the piece will be packed, whether it will be insured, who is responsible if it arrives damaged, so there are no misunderstandings. I can't comment on selling on eBay as I've never done it.
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by Deleted on Mar 28, 2016 19:03:06 GMT 1, If the art is valuable I would be wary of using middle men and galleries to sell on your behalf. Plus never hand over art without getting them to sign a contract that you own the art and can take posession of the art at any time.
Just list it on here and also as posted on this thread ask for the value of the art you are selling.
Ebay can be dodgy for a seller with people pushing up bids that go quiet and also people who buy then make a claim. For high value art I cannot see how Ebay and Paypal policies is credible.
Or just pop down to Bonhams or one of the auction houses like Phillips or other.
If the art is valuable I would be wary of using middle men and galleries to sell on your behalf. Plus never hand over art without getting them to sign a contract that you own the art and can take posession of the art at any time.
Just list it on here and also as posted on this thread ask for the value of the art you are selling.
Ebay can be dodgy for a seller with people pushing up bids that go quiet and also people who buy then make a claim. For high value art I cannot see how Ebay and Paypal policies is credible.
Or just pop down to Bonhams or one of the auction houses like Phillips or other.
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Trevorm
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by Trevorm on Mar 28, 2016 22:42:52 GMT 1, Well, Mr.B you can relax.... Winchester is like a second home to me, I can pop over with some 'Cadbury's' and relieve you of one or two pieces before you know it! No probs.
Well, Mr.B you can relax.... Winchester is like a second home to me, I can pop over with some 'Cadbury's' and relieve you of one or two pieces before you know it! No probs.
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DrArtistic
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by DrArtistic on Mar 28, 2016 23:44:13 GMT 1, Do big cash/art exchanges in a bank, right in front of a security camera, make sure the buyer is not wearing aviator glasses and has a beard. So make sure you're not selling to Mr Brainwash :')
Do big cash/art exchanges in a bank, right in front of a security camera, make sure the buyer is not wearing aviator glasses and has a beard. So make sure you're not selling to Mr Brainwash :')
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Howard Johnson
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by Howard Johnson on Mar 29, 2016 0:03:56 GMT 1, Sell on this forum. I've sold/bought here multiple times and everything has always gone smoothly. I can't say the same for galleries, eBay, and auction houses. Theres a flexibility that comes with selling collector to collector, you both understand the risks and for the most part people will be flexible if there is an issue. You can't say the same for Ebay, buyers will demand things and scammers are about trying to make a buck by screwing people over (see the thread about the D*face buyer claiming never to have received the print). Reputation is a very valuable thing, and 99% of the members on here wouldn't risk ruining theirs on a purchase transaction.
Sell on this forum. I've sold/bought here multiple times and everything has always gone smoothly. I can't say the same for galleries, eBay, and auction houses. Theres a flexibility that comes with selling collector to collector, you both understand the risks and for the most part people will be flexible if there is an issue. You can't say the same for Ebay, buyers will demand things and scammers are about trying to make a buck by screwing people over (see the thread about the D*face buyer claiming never to have received the print). Reputation is a very valuable thing, and 99% of the members on here wouldn't risk ruining theirs on a purchase transaction.
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darkcity
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by darkcity on Mar 29, 2016 0:34:50 GMT 1, Sell on this forum. I've sold/bought here multiple times and everything has always gone smoothly. I can't say the same for galleries, eBay, and auction houses. Theres a flexibility that comes with selling collector to collector, you both understand the risks and for the most part people will be flexible if there is an issue. You can't say the same for Ebay, buyers will demand things and scammers are about trying to make a buck by screwing people over (see the thread about the D*face buyer claiming never to have received the print). Reputation is a very valuable thing, and 99% of the members on here wouldn't risk ruining theirs on a purchase transaction.
I wpuld have to agree with above post, that a personal rapport goes a long way and outways some of the cons that come along with ebay, yes you get more exposure to a wider audience allowing for a potential higher sale. But a higher levek of risk as ebay always sides 9n behakf of buyer so its a fine line. Galleries usually take your work and sell on consignment taking a percentage and paying on say net30 terms for example but you need to cover all grounds assuring your dilligent in paperwork proving the art belongs to you. Lastky auction houses are great if you have the right stuff but the process could take months if not longer before you actually comete a sake and see any money.. So all options have theyre pros and cons however its your final decision that determines whats best for you, I preffer auction houses for the higher priced, more substancial pieces and collector to collector for pieces on midrange and it allows for relationship's and networking to take place and gets you first dibs on some nice pieces from. People, once that relationship has been made... Goodluck
Sell on this forum. I've sold/bought here multiple times and everything has always gone smoothly. I can't say the same for galleries, eBay, and auction houses. Theres a flexibility that comes with selling collector to collector, you both understand the risks and for the most part people will be flexible if there is an issue. You can't say the same for Ebay, buyers will demand things and scammers are about trying to make a buck by screwing people over (see the thread about the D*face buyer claiming never to have received the print). Reputation is a very valuable thing, and 99% of the members on here wouldn't risk ruining theirs on a purchase transaction. I wpuld have to agree with above post, that a personal rapport goes a long way and outways some of the cons that come along with ebay, yes you get more exposure to a wider audience allowing for a potential higher sale. But a higher levek of risk as ebay always sides 9n behakf of buyer so its a fine line. Galleries usually take your work and sell on consignment taking a percentage and paying on say net30 terms for example but you need to cover all grounds assuring your dilligent in paperwork proving the art belongs to you. Lastky auction houses are great if you have the right stuff but the process could take months if not longer before you actually comete a sake and see any money.. So all options have theyre pros and cons however its your final decision that determines whats best for you, I preffer auction houses for the higher priced, more substancial pieces and collector to collector for pieces on midrange and it allows for relationship's and networking to take place and gets you first dibs on some nice pieces from. People, once that relationship has been made... Goodluck
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danbongo
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by danbongo on Mar 29, 2016 0:37:56 GMT 1, It's a wonder some of you can get out of bed
It's a wonder some of you can get out of bed
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mrblast
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by mrblast on Mar 29, 2016 20:37:45 GMT 1, f**k me....when did selling a piece of paper become such a complicated process?! You say you've bought from members here before yet are unsure of the forums effectiveness.....you're own experience demonstrates that it works fine, no? I think many are quick to dismiss non local buyers. You want money, I want art. I send PayPal payment, you send art. Deal done. Both buyer and seller are protected. Good luck with everything though. I said that as a buyer I have purchased items on the forum and my own experience has been that generally as a BUYER, the process has worked fine. I have never sold anything on the forum yet from what I have seen, it looks like a bit of a ball ache and I am querying whether it is the best means of selling. When large sums of money are involved, is it not sensible to be a little cautious and ask the question on the forum? Especially when it's a topic that may prove informative for other members as well?
Your simplistic transaction breakdown above is also misleading as Paypal is currently regarded as heavily favouring the buyer in disputes. Again, hence my request for advice.
Thanks to everyone for the advice so far.
f**k me....when did selling a piece of paper become such a complicated process?! You say you've bought from members here before yet are unsure of the forums effectiveness.....you're own experience demonstrates that it works fine, no? I think many are quick to dismiss non local buyers. You want money, I want art. I send PayPal payment, you send art. Deal done. Both buyer and seller are protected. Good luck with everything though. I said that as a buyer I have purchased items on the forum and my own experience has been that generally as a BUYER, the process has worked fine. I have never sold anything on the forum yet from what I have seen, it looks like a bit of a ball ache and I am querying whether it is the best means of selling. When large sums of money are involved, is it not sensible to be a little cautious and ask the question on the forum? Especially when it's a topic that may prove informative for other members as well? Your simplistic transaction breakdown above is also misleading as Paypal is currently regarded as heavily favouring the buyer in disputes. Again, hence my request for advice. Thanks to everyone for the advice so far.
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Aza
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Selling Art Collection - advice requested, by Aza on Mar 29, 2016 21:01:48 GMT 1, Just put stuff up for sale. It's easy to weed out idiots and you'll find the proper buyers soon enough. You're not committed to anything, so nothing to lose by putting a sale thread up.
Just put stuff up for sale. It's easy to weed out idiots and you'll find the proper buyers soon enough. You're not committed to anything, so nothing to lose by putting a sale thread up.
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