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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by mishco on Dec 22, 2008 22:44:22 GMT 1, most recent was ยฃ695 banksman
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by sahoria on Dec 23, 2008 17:20:09 GMT 1, hello pud!
just wanted to say thanks! birthday today and greatest gift was receiving this from you! love the bethlehem in person just looks amazing and know very very lucky! contacted framers so will be getting framed after xmas! so happy cant believe it! will be taking pics later on ! i really am so happy and once again thanks PUD true star of the forum and appreciate so much! thanks...s
hello pud!
just wanted to say thanks! birthday today and greatest gift was receiving this from you! love the bethlehem in person just looks amazing and know very very lucky! contacted framers so will be getting framed after xmas! so happy cant believe it! will be taking pics later on ! i really am so happy and once again thanks PUD true star of the forum and appreciate so much! thanks...s
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by darrenrapley on Dec 23, 2008 17:24:01 GMT 1, One happy camper
One happy camper
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by bert on Dec 23, 2008 17:24:15 GMT 1, Nice last two posts - nice to see the print went to a good bloke who clearly enjoys it and takes a lot from it. Well done. Make sure you posts piccies when you get it back from the framers!
Nice last two posts - nice to see the print went to a good bloke who clearly enjoys it and takes a lot from it. Well done. Make sure you posts piccies when you get it back from the framers!
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by sahoria on Dec 23, 2008 17:43:36 GMT 1, thank will be sure too!
hoping can drop off on boxing day and get back for new years...! everyone keeps asking about it so is out protected on the floor so it can straighten out before taking to framers... been great past few days and this just tops it off! so happy! thanks again appreciate...s
thank will be sure too! hoping can drop off on boxing day and get back for new years...! everyone keeps asking about it so is out protected on the floor so it can straighten out before taking to framers... been great past few days and this just tops it off! so happy! thanks again appreciate...s
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by banksman on Dec 24, 2008 5:18:28 GMT 1, Just checked completed listings and I'm prepared to offer somewhere along the lines of 550 GBPish...
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Just checked completed listings and I'm prepared to offer somewhere along the lines of 550 GBPish...
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Daniel Silk on Dec 24, 2008 23:37:50 GMT 1, Taking a 'Banksy Tour' in Bethlehem
"Paintings by the West's favorite graffiti artist, Banksy, are part of everyday life for Palestinians around Bethlehem. Some images have been erased, others protected -- but some inspire an odd local lore."
The full story - www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,598010,00.html
Taking a 'Banksy Tour' in Bethlehem "Paintings by the West's favorite graffiti artist, Banksy, are part of everyday life for Palestinians around Bethlehem. Some images have been erased, others protected -- but some inspire an odd local lore." The full story - www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,598010,00.html
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by raiden on Jan 1, 2009 14:10:17 GMT 1, Sharing this article from Dec 24th because its timely given the conflict in Gaza, but also some of the quotes about how the local taxi driver perceives of Banksy is priceless.
TOURISM IN THE HOLY LAND Taking a 'Banksy Tour' in Bethlehem
By Michael Scott Moore in Jerusalem Paintings by the West's favorite graffiti artist, Banksy, are part of everyday life for Palestinians around Bethlehem. Some images have been erased, others protected -- but some inspire an odd local lore.
In the West Bank, Israel's security barrier has started to resemble the western side of the Berlin Wall. The Israeli side is bleak and clean, but on the Palestinian side graffiti can flourish. I knew the British painter Banksy had tagged the wall a few years ago, but I had no idea where his stencils were. At first I didn't care -- I was just here to see Bethlehem -- but my taxi passed a stencil I had seen in news reports, a dove wearing a bulletproof vest. So I snapped a picture.
My driver got excited. "You like Banksy?" he said. "You want a tour? I can show you all the pictures."
I had stumbled on one of Bethlehem's new tourist attractions: the unofficial Banksy tour. In the year since he tagged buildings around Bethlehem -- and the three years or so since he painted famous trompe l'oeil stencils of holes in the massive wall around the West Bank -- Banksy's images have become part of the landscape. They even help bring a little money into Bethlehem's tourist economy, which was crushed when Israel built the security wall in 2002. Israel argues that the wall has stopped suicide bombings, which have largely been replaced by regular missiles from Gaza. But Palestinians say their livelihood has been squeezed, and now "Banksy tours" are a moneymaking venture for some taxi drivers.
Ahmed was lean, close to 50 years old, with a crevassed face and a thin salt-and-pepper mustache. He said he'd helped drive "colors" across the border -- paints -- for Banksy when he and a few other artists mounted a project to stencil wall surfaces and buildings around Bethlehem late last year.
"The people on our side like his pictures," he said, "because they can see what he mean" -- and because the artist raised money last Christmas for Palestinian kids through a temporary gallery called "Santa's Ghetto" on Bethlehem's Manger Square.
"Except for two pictures," Ahmed went on, "-- two they washed away. Because they didn't know what it meant. One was a donkey being checked by an Israeli soldier for passport. They didn't know if that meant donkeys also should have papers. They thought this is no good for the Palestinian people, so they clean it off."
In fact, last year a story went over the news wires that locals had painted over the donkey mural because they had felt offended. Irony doesn't always translate into Arabic, and instead of a jab at the Israeli regime of border controls, Palestinians worried it was a joke against them. "We're humans here, not donkeys," restaurant owner Nasri Canavati had told a Reuters reporter. "This is insulting. I'm glad it was painted over."
The punch line is that a BBC correspondent has been riding a donkey across the Holy Land this month, following the route taken by Mary and Joseph according to the Gospel of Luke. He had to replace his animal after Israeli soldiers at a West Bank checkpoint refused to let it through. "They informed us," reported the correspondent, Aleem Maqbool, "that our donkey did not have the correct paperwork."
'The Angel'
The unofficial Banksy tour has no set itinerary, and no set script. A total of twelve images went up around Bethlehem last year; Ahmed showed me four.
One was a painting of two donkeys bearing cities on their backs, by two artists who had worked with Banksy, Sam 3 and Erica il Cane ("Eric the Dog"). There was also the armored peace dove, which we saw first, and a now-famous image of a girl patting down an Israeli soldier. "The meaning of this picture," said Ahmed, "is that kids stop the soldiers and take their guns. So if you're strong today, not all the time you're strong."
Sometimes his explanations were trenchant; sometimes they were bizarre. Well outside the town we stopped in front of a huge stencil of the "Flower Chucker," one of Banksy's best-known images, on the side of a building that was being demolished. It showed a masked Palestinian hurling a colorful bouquet of flowers. Ahmed said locals had agitated to keep the one wall intact because this image is the best-loved Banksy stencil in Bethlehem. It reminded locals of a bronze angel on a church nearby, he said, at Shepherd's Field. In fact, they called this stencil "The Angel."
"They understand what Banksy is saying," Ahmed said, "because this picture is also in front of the church."
"What, the same picture?"
"The same, yes."
"What church?"
"I can show you."
We drove to a small church outside the village of Beit Sahour, in Shepherd's Field. It's one of two rival locations where a host of angels is said to have sung to shepherds on the occasion of Jesus' birth. It's therefore a destination for pilgrimages and Catholic bus tours. An angel cast in bronze over the church entrance, with its arms raised in a certain posture, seems to have reminded locals โ or at least local taxi drivers โ of the Flower Chucker.
Ahmed insisted that Banksy knew about this statue and was quoting it in the "Flower Chucker" painting, and because of this connection to local art and lore, the concrete wall had been saved.
But the statue and painting looked nothing alike.
"Do people really call that Banksy picture 'The Angel'?" I asked. "Is that really the title?"
"Yes. It's a picture of this angel."
"But it's not an angel."
I wanted him to admit that it was a picture of a Palestinian militant. I also wanted to suggest that a picture of a militant throwing a bouquet of flowers was so absurd it worked as an ironic comment on violence in the West Bank.
Ahmed shrugged. "I don't know. People just like the picture."
On our way back toward Bethlehem we passed the towering security wall. Ahmed waved dismissively at the jumble of graffiti. "Kids," he said.
So Banksy's stencils have taken up residence in the West Bank, and the people revere him as an artist โ but on their terms, not his. Arab culture is not ironic, and his humor can be confusing. But even rough stencils and splatters of paint are better than a plain ugly wall. On the Israeli side, the only bit of color to relieve the unrelenting concrete at the crossing was a monumental work of propaganda, a banner rich with unintended irony, since no one in the West Bank sees the security barrier as anything but a prison wall.
"Peace Be With You," it says in three languages. "Israel Ministry of Tourism."
URL: www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,598010,00.html
Sharing this article from Dec 24th because its timely given the conflict in Gaza, but also some of the quotes about how the local taxi driver perceives of Banksy is priceless. TOURISM IN THE HOLY LAND Taking a 'Banksy Tour' in Bethlehem By Michael Scott Moore in Jerusalem Paintings by the West's favorite graffiti artist, Banksy, are part of everyday life for Palestinians around Bethlehem. Some images have been erased, others protected -- but some inspire an odd local lore. In the West Bank, Israel's security barrier has started to resemble the western side of the Berlin Wall. The Israeli side is bleak and clean, but on the Palestinian side graffiti can flourish. I knew the British painter Banksy had tagged the wall a few years ago, but I had no idea where his stencils were. At first I didn't care -- I was just here to see Bethlehem -- but my taxi passed a stencil I had seen in news reports, a dove wearing a bulletproof vest. So I snapped a picture. My driver got excited. "You like Banksy?" he said. "You want a tour? I can show you all the pictures." I had stumbled on one of Bethlehem's new tourist attractions: the unofficial Banksy tour. In the year since he tagged buildings around Bethlehem -- and the three years or so since he painted famous trompe l'oeil stencils of holes in the massive wall around the West Bank -- Banksy's images have become part of the landscape. They even help bring a little money into Bethlehem's tourist economy, which was crushed when Israel built the security wall in 2002. Israel argues that the wall has stopped suicide bombings, which have largely been replaced by regular missiles from Gaza. But Palestinians say their livelihood has been squeezed, and now "Banksy tours" are a moneymaking venture for some taxi drivers. Ahmed was lean, close to 50 years old, with a crevassed face and a thin salt-and-pepper mustache. He said he'd helped drive "colors" across the border -- paints -- for Banksy when he and a few other artists mounted a project to stencil wall surfaces and buildings around Bethlehem late last year. "The people on our side like his pictures," he said, "because they can see what he mean" -- and because the artist raised money last Christmas for Palestinian kids through a temporary gallery called "Santa's Ghetto" on Bethlehem's Manger Square. "Except for two pictures," Ahmed went on, "-- two they washed away. Because they didn't know what it meant. One was a donkey being checked by an Israeli soldier for passport. They didn't know if that meant donkeys also should have papers. They thought this is no good for the Palestinian people, so they clean it off." In fact, last year a story went over the news wires that locals had painted over the donkey mural because they had felt offended. Irony doesn't always translate into Arabic, and instead of a jab at the Israeli regime of border controls, Palestinians worried it was a joke against them. "We're humans here, not donkeys," restaurant owner Nasri Canavati had told a Reuters reporter. "This is insulting. I'm glad it was painted over." The punch line is that a BBC correspondent has been riding a donkey across the Holy Land this month, following the route taken by Mary and Joseph according to the Gospel of Luke. He had to replace his animal after Israeli soldiers at a West Bank checkpoint refused to let it through. "They informed us," reported the correspondent, Aleem Maqbool, "that our donkey did not have the correct paperwork." 'The Angel' The unofficial Banksy tour has no set itinerary, and no set script. A total of twelve images went up around Bethlehem last year; Ahmed showed me four. One was a painting of two donkeys bearing cities on their backs, by two artists who had worked with Banksy, Sam 3 and Erica il Cane ("Eric the Dog"). There was also the armored peace dove, which we saw first, and a now-famous image of a girl patting down an Israeli soldier. "The meaning of this picture," said Ahmed, "is that kids stop the soldiers and take their guns. So if you're strong today, not all the time you're strong." Sometimes his explanations were trenchant; sometimes they were bizarre. Well outside the town we stopped in front of a huge stencil of the "Flower Chucker," one of Banksy's best-known images, on the side of a building that was being demolished. It showed a masked Palestinian hurling a colorful bouquet of flowers. Ahmed said locals had agitated to keep the one wall intact because this image is the best-loved Banksy stencil in Bethlehem. It reminded locals of a bronze angel on a church nearby, he said, at Shepherd's Field. In fact, they called this stencil "The Angel." "They understand what Banksy is saying," Ahmed said, "because this picture is also in front of the church." "What, the same picture?" "The same, yes." "What church?" "I can show you." We drove to a small church outside the village of Beit Sahour, in Shepherd's Field. It's one of two rival locations where a host of angels is said to have sung to shepherds on the occasion of Jesus' birth. It's therefore a destination for pilgrimages and Catholic bus tours. An angel cast in bronze over the church entrance, with its arms raised in a certain posture, seems to have reminded locals โ or at least local taxi drivers โ of the Flower Chucker. Ahmed insisted that Banksy knew about this statue and was quoting it in the "Flower Chucker" painting, and because of this connection to local art and lore, the concrete wall had been saved. But the statue and painting looked nothing alike. "Do people really call that Banksy picture 'The Angel'?" I asked. "Is that really the title?" "Yes. It's a picture of this angel." "But it's not an angel." I wanted him to admit that it was a picture of a Palestinian militant. I also wanted to suggest that a picture of a militant throwing a bouquet of flowers was so absurd it worked as an ironic comment on violence in the West Bank. Ahmed shrugged. "I don't know. People just like the picture." On our way back toward Bethlehem we passed the towering security wall. Ahmed waved dismissively at the jumble of graffiti. "Kids," he said. So Banksy's stencils have taken up residence in the West Bank, and the people revere him as an artist โ but on their terms, not his. Arab culture is not ironic, and his humor can be confusing. But even rough stencils and splatters of paint are better than a plain ugly wall. On the Israeli side, the only bit of color to relieve the unrelenting concrete at the crossing was a monumental work of propaganda, a banner rich with unintended irony, since no one in the West Bank sees the security barrier as anything but a prison wall. "Peace Be With You," it says in three languages. "Israel Ministry of Tourism." URL: www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,598010,00.html
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by edlecorgne on Jan 1, 2009 15:21:09 GMT 1, im just leaving israel now and i went to bethlehem yesterday - our taxi driver didnt seem to share my intrest as me and my mum had to walk for 15 mins instead of driving up!
im just leaving israel now and i went to bethlehem yesterday - our taxi driver didnt seem to share my intrest as me and my mum had to walk for 15 mins instead of driving up!
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Daniel Silk on May 11, 2009 16:48:37 GMT 1, MYSTERY GRAFFITI ARTIST BANKSY
MYSTERY GRAFFITI ARTIST BANKSY
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by schlomo on May 11, 2009 17:45:17 GMT 1, "if its safe enough for a sissy artist...." great quote......
"if its safe enough for a sissy artist...." great quote......
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by eddiedangerous on May 13, 2009 22:49:20 GMT 1, this one...
always thought it was pretty authentic!!
this one... always thought it was pretty authentic!!
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Deleted on May 13, 2009 23:33:50 GMT 1, comment left by richyb21 (5 months ago) "my art is so much more real, can u find my art on the web? if u can, u can keep it, then sell it, ...bailey" no you can keep it bailey
comment left by richyb21 (5 months ago) "my art is so much more real, can u find my art on the web? if u can, u can keep it, then sell it, ...bailey" no you can keep it bailey
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Deleted on May 13, 2009 23:37:17 GMT 1, MYSTERY GRAFFITI ARTIST BANKSY is he reading a statement?
MYSTERY GRAFFITI ARTIST BANKSY is he reading a statement?
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Daniel Silk on Jan 10, 2010 23:14:31 GMT 1, Banksy: Bethlehem. Santas Ghetto 2007
Banksy: Bethlehem. Santas Ghetto 2007
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by James Smith 77 on Apr 4, 2010 1:17:52 GMT 1, I have a Banksy "Bethlehem Watchtower" that I am considering trading. Not really sure what I want but am interested in the following:
1.) Original Barry Mcgee 2.) Street pieces (Faile, Banksy or others) 3.) 1980's graffiti 4.) Dash Snow 5.) Kara Walker 6.) Nate Lowman 7.) Kerry James Marshall
If any of you fine chaps are looking for a trade hit me up with what you got.
I have a Banksy "Bethlehem Watchtower" that I am considering trading. Not really sure what I want but am interested in the following:
1.) Original Barry Mcgee 2.) Street pieces (Faile, Banksy or others) 3.) 1980's graffiti 4.) Dash Snow 5.) Kara Walker 6.) Nate Lowman 7.) Kerry James Marshall
If any of you fine chaps are looking for a trade hit me up with what you got.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by boaty on Apr 4, 2010 1:26:02 GMT 1, dude, did you just say Kara Walker! Now we're talkin'....
I have a Banksy "Bethlehem Watchtower" that I am considering trading. Not really sure what I want but am interested in the following: 1.) Original Barry Mcgee 2.) Street pieces (Faile, Banksy or others) 3.) 1980's graffiti 4.) Dash Snow 5.) Kara Walker 6.) Nate Lowman 7.) Kerry James Marshall If any of you fine chaps are looking for a trade hit me up with what you got.
dude, did you just say Kara Walker! Now we're talkin'.... I have a Banksy "Bethlehem Watchtower" that I am considering trading. Not really sure what I want but am interested in the following: 1.) Original Barry Mcgee 2.) Street pieces (Faile, Banksy or others) 3.) 1980's graffiti 4.) Dash Snow 5.) Kara Walker 6.) Nate Lowman 7.) Kerry James Marshall If any of you fine chaps are looking for a trade hit me up with what you got.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by jB on Apr 4, 2010 17:28:06 GMT 1, Love K. Walkers work - saw it in Chicago a few years back at the institute? Think she has any inspiration with Banksy's black silouhette pieces?
Love K. Walkers work - saw it in Chicago a few years back at the institute? Think she has any inspiration with Banksy's black silouhette pieces?
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Daniel Silk on Aug 3, 2010 21:35:22 GMT 1, Banksy in Palestine
Banksy in Palestine
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Daniel Silk on Aug 26, 2010 16:12:48 GMT 1, "Against The Wall" Book - Palestine
"Against The Wall" Book - Palestine
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Trismanco on Sept 4, 2010 11:27:59 GMT 1,
not sure how to embed this...
not sure how to embed this...
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by eddiedangerous on Sept 4, 2010 11:55:45 GMT 1, thanks for posting t. bought back a load of great memories
thanks for posting t. bought back a load of great memories
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by achtungbono on Feb 21, 2012 23:33:05 GMT 1, got this lying around - an original price list for the stuff at the Ghetto. I snarfed a couple when I got my Trolleys ( with hand painted handles )
nice addition/ history for someone with a Bethlelem piece for free
got this lying around - an original price list for the stuff at the Ghetto. I snarfed a couple when I got my Trolleys ( with hand painted handles )
nice addition/ history for someone with a Bethlelem piece for free
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Deleted on Feb 21, 2012 23:34:23 GMT 1, Nice gesture.
Nice gesture.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Sundowner on Feb 22, 2012 0:11:30 GMT 1, PM'd
PM'd
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by love on Feb 22, 2012 0:12:34 GMT 1, Got no hand painted handels, but i'd like to see a screenshot of this historic paper. Would you mind posting it in the thread or via pm? Thanks
Got no hand painted handels, but i'd like to see a screenshot of this historic paper. Would you mind posting it in the thread or via pm? Thanks
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Sacked... on Feb 22, 2012 0:25:44 GMT 1, It would be great to have one in the collection.
It would be great to have one in the collection.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by tsteve on Feb 22, 2012 1:38:25 GMT 1, If this is the sale where the Watchtowers were sold, then I would very much appreciate a copy.
If this is the sale where the Watchtowers were sold, then I would very much appreciate a copy.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by maadbeats on Feb 22, 2012 2:23:57 GMT 1, scan that b!tch so we can have a look at the bargins back then
scan that b!tch so we can have a look at the bargins back then
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