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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by numusic on Dec 6, 2007 21:57:20 GMT 1, Good luck Nu have a safe journey 
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by paulah on Dec 6, 2007 22:00:26 GMT 1, Good luck Nu have a safe journey Cheers mate. Exciting times.
ooh - how exciting - have fun!
Good luck Nu have a safe journey Cheers mate. Exciting times. ooh - how exciting - have fun! |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by arcam on Dec 6, 2007 22:00:57 GMT 1, Good luck Nu have a safe journey Cheers mate. Exciting times.
When are you off?
Good luck Nu have a safe journey Cheers mate. Exciting times. When are you off? |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by numusic on Dec 6, 2007 22:02:51 GMT 1, Cheers mate. Exciting times. When are you off?
Monday morning
Cheers mate. Exciting times. When are you off? Monday morning |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by dkla on Dec 6, 2007 23:09:05 GMT 1, Nu, very cool. Have a safe wonderful journey!
Nu, very cool. Have a safe wonderful journey!
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by ogrgel on Dec 6, 2007 23:21:19 GMT 1, thats what I call paste up
thats what I call paste up
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Natas on Dec 7, 2007 0:27:56 GMT 1, New art on the wall posted on Santas Ghetto ;D
New art on the wall posted on Santas Ghetto ;D
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by greeneny on Dec 7, 2007 1:48:02 GMT 1, "maybe listening to him would open your mind to more than just one side of the situation and you would see it for the disgrace that it is."
Why would you think my mind isn't open to all sides ?
I've studied the issue for more then 25 years. I've a doctorate in Mideastern studies. I've been all over the Arab world and only just 10 minutes ago got off the phone with my best friend who's happens to be an gay Arab woman. Please don't tell me I'm close minded when people here are being told by the other side not to listen to me.
What are they afraid of? That I may reveal something?
And you say my mind is closed?
The only disgrace is how badly misinformed so many of you are but determined to stand your ground regardless.
But you'll figure it out I'm sure.
"maybe listening to him would open your mind to more than just one side of the situation and you would see it for the disgrace that it is."
Why would you think my mind isn't open to all sides ?
I've studied the issue for more then 25 years. I've a doctorate in Mideastern studies. I've been all over the Arab world and only just 10 minutes ago got off the phone with my best friend who's happens to be an gay Arab woman. Please don't tell me I'm close minded when people here are being told by the other side not to listen to me.
What are they afraid of? That I may reveal something?
And you say my mind is closed?
The only disgrace is how badly misinformed so many of you are but determined to stand your ground regardless.
But you'll figure it out I'm sure.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by spirit on Dec 7, 2007 1:59:38 GMT 1, "maybe listening to him would open your mind to more than just one side of the situation and you would see it for the disgrace that it is." Why would you think my mind isn't open to all sides ? I've studied the issue for more then 25 years. I've a doctorate in Mideastern studies. I've been all over the Arab world and only just 10 minutes ago got off the phone with my best friend who's happens to be an gay Arab woman. Please don't tell me I'm close minded when people here are being told by the other side not to listen to me. What are they afraid of? That I may reveal something? And you say my mind is closed? The only disgrace is how badly misinformed so many of you are but determined to stand your ground regardless. But you'll figure it out I'm sure.
The reason people think your mind isn't open is because every time you are confronted with a fact that does not fit your view you just blank it and disregard it as meaningless. An example would be the quote bob gave from one of the founders of Zionism. You talk about "lies" and "misinformation" but only in the most general terms - you have failed to prove that any of bobs argument contains either. If it doesn't fit with your view you assume "it must be a lie" but never provide any evidence whatsoever to validate that assumption.
"maybe listening to him would open your mind to more than just one side of the situation and you would see it for the disgrace that it is." Why would you think my mind isn't open to all sides ? I've studied the issue for more then 25 years. I've a doctorate in Mideastern studies. I've been all over the Arab world and only just 10 minutes ago got off the phone with my best friend who's happens to be an gay Arab woman. Please don't tell me I'm close minded when people here are being told by the other side not to listen to me. What are they afraid of? That I may reveal something? And you say my mind is closed? The only disgrace is how badly misinformed so many of you are but determined to stand your ground regardless. But you'll figure it out I'm sure. The reason people think your mind isn't open is because every time you are confronted with a fact that does not fit your view you just blank it and disregard it as meaningless. An example would be the quote bob gave from one of the founders of Zionism. You talk about "lies" and "misinformation" but only in the most general terms - you have failed to prove that any of bobs argument contains either. If it doesn't fit with your view you assume "it must be a lie" but never provide any evidence whatsoever to validate that assumption. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by becksaboo on Dec 7, 2007 2:08:02 GMT 1, When are you off? Monday morning
am so jealous that you've managed to go! have a great time and don't forget to take loads of pics- espec of the surrounding area as well as some more of the wall so we can see the pieces in context.
lucky buggers
When are you off? Monday morning am so jealous that you've managed to go! have a great time and don't forget to take loads of pics- espec of the surrounding area as well as some more of the wall so we can see the pieces in context. lucky buggers |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by valeha on Dec 7, 2007 3:06:56 GMT 1, "maybe listening to him would open your mind to more than just one side of the situation and you would see it for the disgrace that it is." Why would you think my mind isn't open to all sides ? I've studied the issue for more then 25 years. I've a doctorate in Mideastern studies. I've been all over the Arab world and only just 10 minutes ago got off the phone with my best friend who's happens to be an gay Arab woman. Please don't tell me I'm close minded when people here are being told by the other side not to listen to me. What are they afraid of? That I may reveal something? And you say my mind is closed? The only disgrace is how badly misinformed so many of you are but determined to stand your ground regardless. But you'll figure it out I'm sure. The reason people think your mind isn't open is because every time you are confronted with a fact that does not fit your view you just blank it and disregard it as meaningless. An example would be the quote bob gave from one of the founders of Zionism. You talk about "lies" and "misinformation" but only in the most general terms - you have failed to prove that any of bobs argument contains either. If it doesn't fit with your view you assume "it must be a lie" but never provide any evidence whatsoever to validate that assumption.
+1 spirit. You summed it up nicely there. Greeneny just because you have a doctorate or have a gay arab friend certainly does not make you right.
with regards to "people here are being told by the other side not to listen to me.
What are they afraid of? That I may reveal something?"
...err nah afraid not. I echo what Bob said...read both sides and make your minds up for yourselves.
Peace
V
"maybe listening to him would open your mind to more than just one side of the situation and you would see it for the disgrace that it is." Why would you think my mind isn't open to all sides ? I've studied the issue for more then 25 years. I've a doctorate in Mideastern studies. I've been all over the Arab world and only just 10 minutes ago got off the phone with my best friend who's happens to be an gay Arab woman. Please don't tell me I'm close minded when people here are being told by the other side not to listen to me. What are they afraid of? That I may reveal something? And you say my mind is closed? The only disgrace is how badly misinformed so many of you are but determined to stand your ground regardless. But you'll figure it out I'm sure. The reason people think your mind isn't open is because every time you are confronted with a fact that does not fit your view you just blank it and disregard it as meaningless. An example would be the quote bob gave from one of the founders of Zionism. You talk about "lies" and "misinformation" but only in the most general terms - you have failed to prove that any of bobs argument contains either. If it doesn't fit with your view you assume "it must be a lie" but never provide any evidence whatsoever to validate that assumption. +1 spirit. You summed it up nicely there. Greeneny just because you have a doctorate or have a gay arab friend certainly does not make you right. with regards to "people here are being told by the other side not to listen to me. What are they afraid of? That I may reveal something?" ...err nah afraid not. I echo what Bob said...read both sides and make your minds up for yourselves. Peace V |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Joe J on Dec 7, 2007 8:27:40 GMT 1, I bought my ticket and rocked up to the wrong Ghetto... 
I did happen to snap a shot of the show though... Enjoy!
Better luck next year I suppose.
I bought my ticket and rocked up to the wrong Ghetto... I did happen to snap a shot of the show though... Enjoy! Better luck next year I suppose. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by shogun on Dec 7, 2007 11:21:30 GMT 1, Its funny I mentioned Nazi Germany and all the 'friends of Israel' claimed I was supporting the Nazi's? it would appear also shogun that you have deleted the post where you asked if anyone defending israel was defending the nazi's? that, you fool, is why i wouldn't even spit on you. i've said many times i'm neither pro or con any side, i don't know enough about it all, yet, i do object to liberal use of the holocaust as a comparison. feel free to check back through all my post, i havent deleted a word yet alone a whole post, and you will clearly see why i hold you in such contempt. plus, to resort to calling me zionist, friend of israel, etc, etc it seems to me you have a very big problem with something and you are applying that to me. don't try to make your point at the expense of others and i may begin to understand you, until then my opinion stays the same. good day. I think you'll find the post is on page 27. The exact bit of text was "Its funny how people are defending Israel's actions. Is anyone defending Nazi Germany?" Quite a few others CC'd this into their message so I dont think it could be altered. My few words were Implying why are people on the forum defending the evil zionist ragime. What next defending the nazis? (the most evil ragime). Its funny how you went off on one. Others werent so happy when I mentioned the 'Stern gang' Let me say this one more time - the regime is the government not the people. You even called me a racist. What a joke. Can you tell me how I was mocking the holocaust?? Your twisting words not me. I think its best we continue via private messaging so as not to bore anyone. Or we can carry on like this.
Its funny I mentioned Nazi Germany and all the 'friends of Israel' claimed I was supporting the Nazi's? it would appear also shogun that you have deleted the post where you asked if anyone defending israel was defending the nazi's? that, you fool, is why i wouldn't even spit on you. i've said many times i'm neither pro or con any side, i don't know enough about it all, yet, i do object to liberal use of the holocaust as a comparison. feel free to check back through all my post, i havent deleted a word yet alone a whole post, and you will clearly see why i hold you in such contempt. plus, to resort to calling me zionist, friend of israel, etc, etc it seems to me you have a very big problem with something and you are applying that to me. don't try to make your point at the expense of others and i may begin to understand you, until then my opinion stays the same. good day. I think you'll find the post is on page 27. The exact bit of text was "Its funny how people are defending Israel's actions. Is anyone defending Nazi Germany?" Quite a few others CC'd this into their message so I dont think it could be altered. My few words were Implying why are people on the forum defending the evil zionist ragime. What next defending the nazis? (the most evil ragime). Its funny how you went off on one. Others werent so happy when I mentioned the 'Stern gang' Let me say this one more time - the regime is the government not the people. You even called me a racist. What a joke. Can you tell me how I was mocking the holocaust?? Your twisting words not me. I think its best we continue via private messaging so as not to bore anyone. Or we can carry on like this. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by BunnyBoiler on Dec 7, 2007 11:38:40 GMT 1, "maybe listening to him would open your mind to more than just one side of the situation and you would see it for the disgrace that it is." Why would you think my mind isn't open to all sides ? I've studied the issue for more then 25 years. I've a doctorate in Mideastern studies. I've been all over the Arab world and only just 10 minutes ago got off the phone with my best friend who's happens to be an gay Arab woman. Please don't tell me I'm close minded when people here are being told by the other side not to listen to me. What are they afraid of? That I may reveal something? And you say my mind is closed? The only disgrace is how badly misinformed so many of you are but determined to stand your ground regardless. But you'll figure it out I'm sure.
For someone that has a doctorate in Mideastern studies how can you get your facts so wrong?!
Maybe you need to retake the subject.
"maybe listening to him would open your mind to more than just one side of the situation and you would see it for the disgrace that it is." Why would you think my mind isn't open to all sides ? I've studied the issue for more then 25 years. I've a doctorate in Mideastern studies. I've been all over the Arab world and only just 10 minutes ago got off the phone with my best friend who's happens to be an gay Arab woman. Please don't tell me I'm close minded when people here are being told by the other side not to listen to me. What are they afraid of? That I may reveal something? And you say my mind is closed? The only disgrace is how badly misinformed so many of you are but determined to stand your ground regardless. But you'll figure it out I'm sure. For someone that has a doctorate in Mideastern studies how can you get your facts so wrong?! Maybe you need to retake the subject. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by mammal2 on Dec 7, 2007 11:42:04 GMT 1, WOW! Blu was born to bomb this wall!
WOW! Blu was born to bomb this wall!
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Gentle Mental on Dec 7, 2007 11:45:19 GMT 1, please continue here... this is very interesting... I'm learning so much...
to be honest, in Asia, hardly anyone cares about what's going on in the middle east other than the price of oil and how the iraq war's affecting the U.S. economy and subsequently Asia's economy.
i (and most people here) didn't find time or bother to care for this issue, because it does not affect us directly, it's out of our radars, it's not in our textbooks, news (barely), conversations.
The last big thing was Burma, even that was severely, embarrassingly muted (where i come from).
What our reports often miss out most times are the emotions, the raw anger, sadness and hope.
I do hope POW online will release some prints by of the local artists there... i believe exporting their art to the rest of the world is the best way to express and communicate that emotion.
It's something news (much less censored news) can never, ever do.
please continue here... this is very interesting... I'm learning so much...
to be honest, in Asia, hardly anyone cares about what's going on in the middle east other than the price of oil and how the iraq war's affecting the U.S. economy and subsequently Asia's economy.
i (and most people here) didn't find time or bother to care for this issue, because it does not affect us directly, it's out of our radars, it's not in our textbooks, news (barely), conversations.
The last big thing was Burma, even that was severely, embarrassingly muted (where i come from).
What our reports often miss out most times are the emotions, the raw anger, sadness and hope.
I do hope POW online will release some prints by of the local artists there... i believe exporting their art to the rest of the world is the best way to express and communicate that emotion.
It's something news (much less censored news) can never, ever do.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by reados on Dec 7, 2007 12:21:22 GMT 1, when is the bloody shop opening? 
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by monstris on Dec 7, 2007 12:29:23 GMT 1, am so jealous that you've managed to go! have a great time and don't forget to take loads of pics- espec of the surrounding area as well as some more of the wall so we can see the pieces in context. lucky buggers
Off Monday morning too.... Hopefully we can, as Nu mentioned, hook up with the rest of the Banksy forum 'on tour'. We're hooking up on Tuesday so if anyone else on here is planning the trip out, PM away. If you want to stay in Bethlehem, the InterCon Jacir Palace is around $100USD/night.
Shame we can't do video here as I'm after asking a lot of the locals what they actually think of Banksy and SG. And I'll be heading out to other parts of the West Bank to see if the news has got around.... Who knows? The next Banksy could be a kid from the Balata refugee camp....
Will also post up photos of other areas outside Bethlehem...and what flies for graff/art elsewhere.
am so jealous that you've managed to go! have a great time and don't forget to take loads of pics- espec of the surrounding area as well as some more of the wall so we can see the pieces in context. lucky buggers Off Monday morning too.... Hopefully we can, as Nu mentioned, hook up with the rest of the Banksy forum 'on tour'. We're hooking up on Tuesday so if anyone else on here is planning the trip out, PM away. If you want to stay in Bethlehem, the InterCon Jacir Palace is around $100USD/night. Shame we can't do video here as I'm after asking a lot of the locals what they actually think of Banksy and SG. And I'll be heading out to other parts of the West Bank to see if the news has got around.... Who knows? The next Banksy could be a kid from the Balata refugee camp.... Will also post up photos of other areas outside Bethlehem...and what flies for graff/art elsewhere. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by stuey09 on Dec 7, 2007 13:21:12 GMT 1, Can anyone recommend an airline and destination airport. I know that it may have been mentioned already, but 34 pages are a lot to trawl through. A quick glance through cheap flights to Tel Aviv was showing ยฃ760 quid. Any help appreciated.
Can anyone recommend an airline and destination airport. I know that it may have been mentioned already, but 34 pages are a lot to trawl through. A quick glance through cheap flights to Tel Aviv was showing ยฃ760 quid. Any help appreciated.
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by shogun on Dec 7, 2007 13:23:19 GMT 1, Big respect to all those that are going.
Dont forget to take your own stencils and spray cans... 
It'll be nice to see the pics you guys take. Safe journey peeps
Big respect to all those that are going. Dont forget to take your own stencils and spray cans... It'll be nice to see the pics you guys take. Safe journey peeps |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by shogun on Dec 7, 2007 13:25:13 GMT 1, Can anyone recommend an airline and destination airport. I know that it may have been mentioned already, but 34 pages are a lot to trawl through. A quick glance through cheap flights to Tel Aviv was showing ยฃ760 quid. Any help appreciated.
I put some details in expedia (www.expedia.co.uk) and came up with ยฃ316. Give it a try hope it helps.
Can anyone recommend an airline and destination airport. I know that it may have been mentioned already, but 34 pages are a lot to trawl through. A quick glance through cheap flights to Tel Aviv was showing ยฃ760 quid. Any help appreciated. I put some details in expedia (www.expedia.co.uk) and came up with ยฃ316. Give it a try hope it helps. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by bob1 on Dec 7, 2007 13:32:04 GMT 1, I do hope POW online will release some prints by of the local artists there... i believe exporting their art to the rest of the world is the best way to express and communicate that emotion.
+1
I do hope POW online will release some prints by of the local artists there... i believe exporting their art to the rest of the world is the best way to express and communicate that emotion. +1 |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by stuey09 on Dec 7, 2007 13:33:29 GMT 1, Can anyone recommend an airline and destination airport. I know that it may have been mentioned already, but 34 pages are a lot to trawl through. A quick glance through cheap flights to Tel Aviv was showing ยฃ760 quid. Any help appreciated. I put some details in expedia (www.expedia.co.uk) and came up with ยฃ316. Give it a try hope it helps.
Thanks shogun I'll give it a go.
Can anyone recommend an airline and destination airport. I know that it may have been mentioned already, but 34 pages are a lot to trawl through. A quick glance through cheap flights to Tel Aviv was showing ยฃ760 quid. Any help appreciated. I put some details in expedia (www.expedia.co.uk) and came up with ยฃ316. Give it a try hope it helps. Thanks shogun I'll give it a go. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by lesbianwednesdays on Dec 7, 2007 14:01:21 GMT 1, Can anyone recommend an airline and destination airport. I know that it may have been mentioned already, but 34 pages are a lot to trawl through. A quick glance through cheap flights to Tel Aviv was showing ยฃ760 quid. Any help appreciated.
stuey, i found flights from stanstead to tel aviv leaving today, coming back sunday to heathrow for ยฃ300.76, that was on wednesday. booking.elal.co.il/ebooking/action/set-home
p.s shogun, if i get time this evening i'll pm you, it would be nice to clear the air, this bad feeling helps nobody.
Can anyone recommend an airline and destination airport. I know that it may have been mentioned already, but 34 pages are a lot to trawl through. A quick glance through cheap flights to Tel Aviv was showing ยฃ760 quid. Any help appreciated. stuey, i found flights from stanstead to tel aviv leaving today, coming back sunday to heathrow for ยฃ300.76, that was on wednesday. booking.elal.co.il/ebooking/action/set-homep.s shogun, if i get time this evening i'll pm you, it would be nice to clear the air, this bad feeling helps nobody. |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Michael Jacob on Dec 7, 2007 14:46:27 GMT 1, Has anyone reported whether or not the Gold Flag and/or Trolleys sold out? THanks
Has anyone reported whether or not the Gold Flag and/or Trolleys sold out? THanks
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by manchestermike on Dec 7, 2007 14:47:06 GMT 1, Has anyone reported whether or not the Gold Flag and/or Trolleys sold out? THanks
I believe Trolleys has done
Has anyone reported whether or not the Gold Flag and/or Trolleys sold out? THanks I believe Trolleys has done |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Nuno on Dec 7, 2007 14:53:37 GMT 1, is there anyway that we can find out how many flags are left?
is there anyway that we can find out how many flags are left?
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by mcnuts on Dec 7, 2007 14:58:48 GMT 1, is there anyway that we can find out how many flags are left?
i guess i wont suggest the obvious answer
but many reports here say trolley is done (as above) flags, well book yoru ticket and find out then you can come back and tell us! Heaven forbid POW actually update the website!
is there anyway that we can find out how many flags are left? i guess i wont suggest the obvious answer but many reports here say trolley is done (as above) flags, well book yoru ticket and find out then you can come back and tell us! Heaven forbid POW actually update the website! |
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Banksy's Santas Ghetto Bethlehem, by Nuno on Dec 7, 2007 15:16:56 GMT 1, Could someone who has just returned from the ghetto please pm me. Have a few niggling concerns...
cheers
Could someone who has just returned from the ghetto please pm me. Have a few niggling concerns...
cheers
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